Palin Drug Use, Sexual Adventures Reported
It is going to be interesting to see how people take this. Sarah Palin has had quite the colorful past, it turns out, doing marijuana and cocaine, extramarital affairs, even a tryst with a black NBA basketball star, at least according to a well-researched book that is coming out soon.
Here're the first few paragraphs of The Guardian's report:
I would think the moralizing religious right would abandon her in droves once they learn these things about her. I mean, I would have thought that, back when I thought there was a shred of rationality to their thinking.
But I learned a lesson from the Bristol Palin situation. Remember when Bristol, an unmarried teenager, got pregnant? The Nutty Ones loved her! It was the best thing that could have happened.
So now we have Sarah Palin herself acting like a regular trailer-trash chick, getting loaded and fooling around with guys, who knows, the teabaggers might start pushing to make this country a monarchy so they can pronounce her Queen.
Here're the first few paragraphs of The Guardian's report:
A highly anticipated biography of Sarah Palin, the Tea Party politician and former Republican vice presidential candidate, alleges the former Republican vice presidential candidate used cocaine and marijuana, and had a long affair with her husband's business partner.
The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin by the respected if controversial author, Joe McGinniss, claims Palin was seen snorting cocaine off the top of a 55-gallon drum while snowmobiling with friends. It also alleges she smoked marijuana with a professor while at Mat-Su College in Alaska.
The book, scheduled for release in the US next week, quotes a Palin family friend as alleging that Palin's husband, Todd, also used cocaine and that he was "on the end of the straw plenty". Sarah Palin alleged to have used cocaine and marijuana
I would think the moralizing religious right would abandon her in droves once they learn these things about her. I mean, I would have thought that, back when I thought there was a shred of rationality to their thinking.
But I learned a lesson from the Bristol Palin situation. Remember when Bristol, an unmarried teenager, got pregnant? The Nutty Ones loved her! It was the best thing that could have happened.
So now we have Sarah Palin herself acting like a regular trailer-trash chick, getting loaded and fooling around with guys, who knows, the teabaggers might start pushing to make this country a monarchy so they can pronounce her Queen.
posted by JimK at 9:17 PM
23 Comments:
if the stuff is true, it would depend on a lot of factors
right now, I'm thinking she would make a great President
didn't Clinton smoke pot in college and have oral sex with a young intern in the Oval Office?
and continue, after this was discvered, until the conclusion of his term years later?
and the liberal left thinks he belongs on Mt Rushmore
btw, why do you hate people who live in trailers?
Anon,
I would not assume it is true. If it is true, the depths of her hypocrisy would be breathtaking. In any event, there is a huge difference between the Bristol thing which was the foolishness of a 17 year old (lots of parents went, "There but for luck go we", and sympathized with Palin) and Palin's own actions.
Actually, I may be the only person in the world who still believes Clinton re pot. Like Clinton, I never smoked cigarettes. And like Clinton's story, the only time I ever put a reefer to my lips (I was 22), I didn't know how to inhale, so I just passed it along without inhaling.
Re the Monica issue, if the incident had not been discovered as a result of an inquisition by Starr that had nothing to do with that sort of behavior and was premised on essentially nothing (the original investigation, that is), I would have wanted him to resign.
And, although I know you are kidding, no one on the liberal left (I do not shrink from the term) thinks so highly of Bill Clinton. He had a great opportunity when he was elected in 1992, and he blew it through miscalculation (trying to do health care reform before welfare reform) and his own personal hedonism (engaging in the Monica stuff -- and maybe other things -- when he knew his enemies would stoop at nothing to destroy him).
As to your wise-guy statement about trailers, I seem to recall that Jim went after David Vitter even more aggressively -- Vitter of wealth, privilege, and even a Rhodes Scholarship.
What did the uninsured American say to the Republican?
You're killing me!
What you saw at the GOP debate the other night when some people in the crowd yelled "Yeah!" when Wolf Blitzer asked the hypothetical question to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas): "What do you tell a guy who is sick, goes into a coma and doesn't have health insurance? Who pays for his coverage? Are you saying society should just let him die?" is sadism, pure and simple.
It's the same impulse that led people in the Coliseum to cheer when the lions ate the Christians.
And that seems to be where we are heading if the Tea Party fed GOP takes control of government -- bread and circuses.
Without the bread.
Blitzer is an ass who ignores the fact that a similar situation has occurred millions of times over the years.
These patients are always cared for despite their lack of insurance and all before Obamacare was around.
The only thing that will change is that the quality of care for everyone including the poor and previously uninsured will decline- and people will be denied care by death panels if the only treatment doesn't have a high enough success rate.
Having the government take over health care will have negative consequences just like government control of education has.
Poor inner city kids all get an education. The education they get is generally worthless but, hey, they can say they got it. And, for free!
Kind of like being sold a bill of goods.
you're probably wondering where all the stimulus funds went
they went to scandal:
"One factor favoring President Obama's re-election, according to political scientist Alan Lichtman, is the absence of scandal in his administration.
Lichtman may have spoken too soon.
The reason can be capsulized in a single word: Solyndra.
Solyndra was the first company to receive a loan guarantee from the Department of Energy as part of the 2009 stimulus package. The loan guarantee was for $535 million.
It was part of the Obama administration's program to create so-called "green jobs," which we were told were the key to future economic growth.
The beauty part is if the company's business plan works out, the loan costs the government virtually nothing.
Obama paid a visit to Solyndra on a trip to California in May 2010. "It is here that companies like Solyndra are leading the way toward a brighter, more prosperous future," he said. Hailing the green jobs loan guarantee program, he went on, "We can see the positive impacts right here at Solyndra."
The White House even prepared a video about the company. The Solyndra personnel sound articulate and intelligent, and seem to be really nice guys.
Unfortunately, there were other things going on at Solyndra for all to see. An audit of the company performed by PriceWaterhouseCoopers two months before Obama's visit noted that the firm had accumulated losses of $558 million.
The auditor noted that Solyndra "has suffered recurring losses from operations, negative cash flows since inception and has a net stockholders' deficit that, among other factors, raises substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern."
One of the original investors in Solyndra was Oklahoma billionaire George Kaiser, who was also a major contributor to Obama's 2008 campaign.
On Aug. 31, while Obama was vacationing on Martha's Vineyard, Solyndra filed for bankruptcy. On Sept. 8, the day of Obama's "American Jobs Act" speech to a joint session of Congress, FBI agents conducted searches of Solyndra's headquarters and the homes of the firm's CEO and founder. Newspaper accounts speculate that the government may wind up losing the whole $535 million.
The House Energy and Commerce oversight subcommittee conducted a hearing on Solyndra on Wednesday to investigate nefarious goings on at Solyndra. Was the administration's decision to grant a loan guarantee of half a billion dollars influenced by a major campaign contributor? Did the Energy Department disregard obvious caution flags about the company? Did somebody slip somebody a bribe?
But let's assume for the time being that there was no criminal conduct here, no violation of government procedures, no fraud. Let's assume everyone in the administration acted with good faith.
There's still a scandal -- the scandal of the government handing out hundreds of millions of dollars to unproven and speculative businesses. Even the shrewdest venture capitalists lose money on most of their investments. But when they lose, it's their money, not ours.
The scandal is still going on. The Energy Department has been busy handing out more loan guarantees in the past few weeks -- $150 million to 1366 Technologies of Lexington, Mass. (73 percent for Obama in 2008), 80 percent of $344 million to Solar City of San Mateo, Calif. (72 percent for Obama in 2008). Will one of them be the next Solyndra?
The real scandal is the "green jobs" loan guarantee program itself. And the ones getting scammed are American taxpayers."
I teach in a trailer (oh, I mean Learning Cottage). Trailer people rock.
Does Sarah Palin rock, Robert?
"Trailer people rock."
I agree, Robert.
I think Jim was being uncharacteristically intolerant to refer to people who live in trailers as "trailer-trash".
We'll give him a pass, though.
He does run a rollicking blog.
And, don't forget Jim Rockford.
Anyone else old enough to remember an old Jackie Cooper sitcom called "The People's Choice." He, too, lived in a trailer.
Anonymous is a total nut!! As a Republican, I am ashamed of his very lame and uneducated comments. Anonymous, you are the reason we REAL Republicans are being seen as completely insane individuals. Thanks, but NO thanks.
"Blitzer is an ass who ignores the fact that a similar situation has occurred millions of times over the years."
Blitzer was just the debate host.
It was millions of red blooded Americans who were shocked and dismayed when they heard for themselves those tea baggers in the audience yell "Yeah!!" to the idea of letting the uninsured die.
"These patients are always cared for despite their lack of insurance and all before Obamacare was around."
That's a flat out lie.
My dear friend, Leslie Boyd, took her grief after her son, Mike, died and created a group that advocates for health care coverage for all.
Mike didn't have insurance and couldn't afford the colonscopy that might have caught his colon cancer before it was too late. He died from it at age 33 in 2008, well before Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law.
http://lifeomike.org
"Anonymous is a total nut!! As a Republican, I am ashamed of his very lame and uneducated comments. Anonymous, you are the reason we REAL Republicans are being seen as completely insane individuals."
I'm actually a registered Democratic, leftover from the days when the Democratic Party was rational
do let me know which comments you object to
that might actually be a contribution to the discussion
"Blitzer was just the debate host."
he chose the questions
"It was millions of red blooded Americans who were shocked and dismayed when they heard for themselves those tea baggers in the audience yell "Yeah!!" to the idea of letting the uninsured die."
why would Americans be "shocked and dismayed" when, according to TTFers, the Tea Party is a fringe organization, out of favor with Americans?
I also heard Rick Perry was shocked by the response
could it be that it wasn't really clear what they were saying "yeah" to?
did anyone interview one of these audience members after the debate?
are we sure it was Tea Partiers?
"That's a flat out lie."
no, it isn't
there are already laws about denying care for life-threatening illnesses
it's one of the reasons health care costs so much
"My dear friend, Leslie Boyd, took her grief after her son, Mike, died and created a group that advocates for health care coverage for all.
Mike didn't have insurance and couldn't afford the colonscopy that might have caught his colon cancer before it was too late. He died from it at age 33 in 2008, well before Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law."
raise your hand if you had a colonoscopy at 33
me neither
it's not recommended until you're 50
I don't think Obama's death panel will change that
btw, use of spellcheck will help you look more intelligent
just ask nasty Priya
"Anyone else old enough to remember an old Jackie Cooper sitcom called "The People's Choice." He, too, lived in a trailer."
this was before my time, David, which is saying something
you win the role of official blog elder
couldn't find your show on Hulu or Netflix but youtube had some episodes, although the problem with youtube is that it can't take a whole program so the epiosodes are divided into parts
the Bassett hound commentator was a novel touch
“right now, I'm thinking she would make a great President”
Naturally
Poe's Law states:
Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult to distinguish between parodies of religious fundamentalism (or, more generally, parodies of any crackpot or extremist belief) and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane.
“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing. ”
For example.
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“and the liberal left thinks he [Clinton] belongs on Mt Rushmore”
The Rushmore thing fell through. We sued, but the judge was a creationist and insisted it was a natural phenomenon designed by God to prove He exists.
He went on to say that if anyone's face should be added to the mountain, it should be Reagan's. "Because," he said, "Ronald Reagan was the closest thing to God in the flesh since Jesus"
So, right now we’re in talks with the US Waterfall Protection Agency [UWPA] (formed by the Bush Administration) about getting an estimate on how much it would cost to divert the Niagara falls river just enough to expose the rockface behind the falls, upon which we can then etch his face.
You might even call it a testament. Yes, an awestriking testament to his diplomatic and leadership skills--to be admired for generations and generations to come.
Keep your fingers crossed!
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“didn't Clinton smoke pot in college and have oral sex with a young intern in the Oval Office?
and continue, after this was discvered, until the conclusion of his term years later?” [Link?]
False equivalence.
Unlike Palin, Clinton wasn’t shoving a Christian-supremacist worldview down our throats.
It's not about Palin's personal proclivities, it's about having even more empiricle evidence that she and her moralizing are fake, not unlike the frauds who follow her.
If true, McGinniss provides a valuable service -- For, if a tea partier were ever to turn this place into a theocratic police state, where only über conservative Christians are allowed to rule, and the "shackles" of minimum wages are abolished, "freeing" employees to work for whatever their employer wants to pay them -- no one will be able to say "Gosh, golly, gee, I had no idea that their plan all along was the overthrow of democracy itself.
Think what you will about Clinton’s Oval Office affair, he still has infinitely more credibility than the tea party crowd.
Of course I don’t really think she’d turn the US into a police state, she spends much too much time playing the truly confidence-inspiring role of hapless victim.
--
BTW, I think you’re missing a president.
That, and about several trillion dollars.
"why would Americans be "shocked and dismayed" when, according to TTFers, the Tea Party is a fringe organization, out of favor with Americans?"
Americans of all political stripes, including TTFers and Anonymous wing nuts, watch GOP presidential debates. TTFers already know who the GOP will lose to in 2012.
Everybody who watched the tea bagged debate saw and heard members audience yelling "Yeah" and clapping their hands at the question of letting someone without insurance die. Most Americans who watched the debate were shocked and dismayed when the curtain lifted a bit there to reveal the hateful uncaring nature of those tea baggers in the TV audience at the debate.
Those tea baggers might have had a different reaction if they had paused to think, "What if that uninsured person is a member of my family."
"could it be that it wasn't really clear what they were saying "yeah" to?"
Only if you're a tea bagger ass who tries to deny the facts of what everybody saw and heard happen on nationwide TV.
"raise your hand if you had a colonoscopy at 33
me neither"
Then you were lucky enough not to have the early signs of colon cancer at a young age.
Count your blessings.
If you had had early symptoms of colon cancer at a young age and your doctor failed to order a colonoscopy, your surviving family members have grounds to sue.
A doctor did order the colonoscopy, however, Mike was uninsured and did not have the money to pay for it. Being young and strong, he figured his intestinal problems would pass, just like anyone including you might have if they were young and strong and couldn't have afforded the exam either.
So what do you do when someone uninsured comes into the emergency room....
Every emergency room I know treats them.
I don't disagree with that, unless it gets abused by folks going in with stubbed toes...(which apparently it does according to a nurse I know).
I just went and googled Medicaid standards and got :
"Medically needy families or children also qualify for Medicaid if their income and/or assets are greater than the TCA standards, but less than the Medicaid medically needy standards for the household’s size (e.g., income no more than $350 per month and assets no more than $2,500 for a household of one person). Families or children may become income-eligible through a “spenddown” process using medical bills. (See Medically Needy)."
Okay so, I guess what we need more of are more free clinics, ie, places that the govt provides, like soup kitchens that you can go for a checkup and I would include mammograms and colonostocpies.. (sp). and you know what, I would throw in free birth control, IF you let the govt negotiate a bulk deal on the meds (as apparently for some reason Medicare does not) and you staff those clinics with residents and one doctor, and you make everyone who visits sign a "I cannot sue" document... I think you fix this problem, don't you ? Or at least make a lot of progress towards fixing it... the problem with Obama care is that it changed what the govt will ALLOW physicians to cover for EVERYONE, regardless of your ability to pay for it. Not cool. If you are a dying millionaire and you want to have shark blood injected into you because you have heard this will help, guess what, if you can talk a doctor into doing it because ... well it won't hurt... you should be able to make that decision on your own... You and your doctor. that is the definition of the US of A. Not some doctor saying I can't do this because the Obama panel won't let me try this because you are TOO OLD. You have the money, you want to waste it, you want to spend it on some untested treatment, it's yours, have at it.. (but see Obama thinks that all US taxpayer owned assets are actually HIS assets)...
Anyway, bottom line I think we should have more truly free clinics in the US (or minimal cost clinics) in order to address the problem of covering the poor.
I don't agree that the guy who didn't keep health insurance is entitled to the same standard of care as the guy who did.... the doctors need to get paid too ! but I do agree he should get some treatment. My husband for instance, had a hernia treatment. After double insurance, I STILL had to pay 400.00 (that's a different discussion about how prevailing rates for the same area for the same service can be OFF 100%)... that DOESN"T mean I think the govt should be dictating rates for everyhing ! Which I believe under Obamacare they might be. And by the way, his brother had the same service at approx. the same time via Kaiser and has a huge scar. My husband doesn't have a scar... I do think it is appropriate for them to average rates among insurers and say you have to be within 30% of each other or explain why !
I have a guy that works on my house that takes his kid to the free orthodontics clinic... he can't afford regular ortho for his kid, but he is doing the best he can getting the kids teeth fixed. I believe this is a reasonable compromise for a free society that doesn't guarantee you a profitable existence UNLESS YOU EARN IT.
But in order for anyone to offer that, you have to have tort reform, which the democrats consistently opposed. Jim, ball in your court !
"False equivalence"
that's true
Clinton was much worse
he took advantage of young subordinate
his actions with Lewinsky would be just as bad if he had been single
the drug thing is essentially equivalent
"Unlike Palin, Clinton wasn’t shoving a Christian-supremacist worldview down our throats"
no, he was shoving many other things down our throat, such as radical feminism, and then exploiting young women
he tried to shove national health care down our throats also but it's hard to make the case that Obama is the lucky one by getting it passed
"It's not about Palin's personal proclivities, it's about having even more empiricle evidence that she and her moralizing are fake, not unlike the frauds who follow her"
what "moralizing" are we talking about here?
could we have an example?
I can't ever recall her ever proposing any policy and then saying we should enact it based on her perfect moral caliber
let me know if you can find any such thing
"even more empiricle evidence"
I know you guys think I bring up the spelling too much and I know we all sometimes transpose letters or miss one when typing too fast
but the thing is, these TTFers actually don't know how commonly used words are spelled
it makes you wonder how educated or well-read these people are
"If true, McGinniss provides a valuable service -- For, if a tea partier were ever to turn this place into a theocratic police state, where only über conservative Christians are allowed to rule, and the "shackles" of minimum wages are abolished, "freeing" employees to work for whatever their employer wants to pay them -- no one will be able to say "Gosh, golly, gee, I had no idea that their plan all along was the overthrow of democracy itself"
gee, where to start with this flight of fantasy
suffice it to say, improv, the individuals don't matter
even if it turned out Palin was running a bordello in Wasilla and cooking crystal meth in the Southwest, it wouldn't change the fact that the American people want someone like her to be the next President
concerned as you are about the minimum wage, I'm assuming you are working as a busboy
in any case, you will certainly get a chance to find out how accurate your irrational fears are when Rick Perry is sworn in, come January 2013
but the big question is: will you watch Barack on Dancing with the Stars?
"Think what you will about Clinton’s Oval Office affair, he still has infinitely more credibility than the tea party crowd"
well, that depends what is the definition of "is" is
"Of course I don’t really think she’d turn the US into a police state, she spends much too much time playing the truly confidence-inspiring role of hapless victim"
that's true
and the other thing is: she hasn't proposed turning us into a police state so why make yourself look stupid by imagining she will
oh, that's right
this is improv
he likes to make hiself look stupid
"BTW, I think you’re missing a president.
That, and about several trillion dollars."
we'll get a President in January 2013 but the trillions are gone for good
"Americans of all political stripes, including TTFers and Anonymous wing nuts, watch GOP presidential debates."
the question is: why would anyone be shocked since, according to TTF, everyone already thinks the Tea Party is nuts
isn't this the kind of thing you said everyone expected?
"TTFers already know who the GOP will lose to in 2012"
I tell you, fewer and fewer people "know" that every day
"Everybody who watched the tea bagged debate saw and heard members audience yelling "Yeah" and clapping their hands at the question of letting someone without insurance die."
really? is there any proof of that?
any polling data to back up this story the liberal media is trying to rev up
"Most Americans who watched the debate were shocked and dismayed when the curtain lifted a bit there to reveal the hateful uncaring nature of those tea baggers in the TV audience at the debate."
really? is ther any proof of that?
any polling data to back up this story the liberal media is trying to rev up
"Those tea baggers might have had a different reaction if they had paused to think, "What if that uninsured person is a member of my family.""
or if the liberals could provide even one example of an individual of an American denied care because they didn't have health insurance
"Only if you're a tea bagger ass who tries to deny the facts of what everybody saw and heard happen on nationwide TV."
in other words, no, it wasn't clear
"A doctor did order the colonoscopy, however, Mike was uninsured and did not have the money to pay for it. Being young and strong, he figured his intestinal problems would pass, just like anyone including you might have if they were young and strong and couldn't have afforded the exam either."
so a doctor told him there were suspicious signs and he didn't try to find some way to get tested?
what were the early warning signs that were so ominous that a doctor ordered a colonoscopy for a 33-year-old?
intestinal problems? lots of people have such things without having a colonoscopy ordered
"So what do you do when someone uninsured comes into the emergency room....
Every emergency room I know treats them."
sounds like he should have gone to the emergency room
"So what do you do when someone uninsured comes into the emergency room....
Every emergency room I know treats them."
Tell us, ass, how many ERs do you know that perform colonoscopies on those with early signs of colon cancer, or chemotherapy on cancer patients, or dialysis on those with kidney failure, or in-home care for Alzheimer's patients, or long term care for any chronic diseases, or preventative or prenatal care, or dispense prescriptions?
None, that's how many.
When people without health insurance are forced to rely on ERs for the limited health care they can get there, hospitals keep their profits up by raising the cost of medical care they provide to those who can pay.
You don't imagine those corporate big wigs who own hospitals with ERs just give away their services to the needy, do you?
You'd be an ass to believe that.
You'd also be an ass if you were unaware of efforts of corporate funded groups like ALEC to change Medicaid from an entitlement program to limited block grants in order to further reduce the numbers of poor people who are eligible for it:
"ALEC model legislation leaked to Ms. magazine gives states a blueprint for receiving federal Medicaid funds as “block grants” rather than entitlements. An entitlement guarantees coverage to people who are eligible; block grants are a fixed “block” of money, letting states cut off previously eligible recipients or freeze enrollment. Since Medicaid helps low-income pregnant women, the elderly in nursing homes (most of whom are women and two-thirds of whom are Medicaid-funded) and disabled children and adults, you can imagine the consequences: a 90- year-old woman evicted from her nursing home, an autistic child no longer given aid, a young pregnant woman unable to afford prenatal care.
The state closest to passing such block-grant legislation is Texas, where a Republican lawmaker has proposed two bills that follow ALEC’s Medicaid agenda. The first of state Rep. Lois Kolkhorst’s bills would allocate Texas’ Medicaid funding as block grants; her second would allow Texas to opt out of Obama’s health-care reform regu- lations entirely. If passed, both require federal approval.
An ALEC representative told Ms. via e-mail that it has had “no involvement” with Texas’ attempt to defund Medicaid. But Kolkhorst was listed in 2003 as a member of ALEC’s “Commerce and Economic Development Task Force,”and she drew inspiration for her legislation from the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a conservative nonprofit with longstanding ties to ALEC."
http://hayladies.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/the-latest-threat-to-health-care-in-texas/
"chemotherapy on cancer patients"
Yes apparently we do...
my liberal neighbor told me stories of how mexicans would come up to california with cancer and get treated...
even she thought that was a bit over the top.
""chemotherapy on cancer patients"
Yes apparently we do..."
OK, prove it. Provide a link to a hospital ER that provides chemotherapy.
Cue the crickets again please, Derrick!
The crickets are chirping, as expected.
My Google search results for "chemotherapy" and "emergency rooms" only show hits for patients who were sent home after chemo, but were so ill from its aftereffects, so they went to the ER to get their post-chemo symptoms tended to.
I find no hits about chemotherapy being administered in emergency rooms, not even to Mexicans in California's ERs.
Emergency rooms in the US only provide emergency care, not long term or preventive care.
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