Lawsuit Filed to Allow Conversion Therapy in Maryland
Conversion therapy, which attempts to transform gay people into heterosexuals, is illegal for minors in Maryland. But a rightwing religious group has filed a lawsuit to allow it.
Baltimore Sun:
Doyle claims to have "overcome unwanted same-sex attraction" himself, but actually his story is pretty bizarre, and there is some question as to whether he was ever actually gay himself. He told PFOX that when he was ten years old his thirteen-year-old female cousin began molesting him about once a week for a year. He told PFOX, "I wasn't getting enough attention from my parents, and it felt good to be close to my cousin in this way."
Doyle also told PFOX that when he was older, "I tried to have sex with the little girls that my mother watched in her daycare, and eventually, one of the girls told her parents what I was doing." It does not appear that he was criminally charged for abusing preschool girls, or that there were any consequences.
Then, he said, through adolescence, "Any way I could receive love, with girls or boys, I would take it. I soon learned that boys, however, were a lot easier to have sex with than girls." He told PFOX that "I had girlfriends in high school" but "took every opportunity" to have sex with boys.
Doyle claims that praying did not help him but he got a job and joined a Bible study group after college and then, without explanation, his interest in male sex partners disappeared. He told Queerty, "I never really went to therapy to try and eliminate same-sex attraction, it just happened automatically."
Doyle told The Sun that the conversion therapy ban prevents him from counseling minors who have an “unwanted same sex attraction.” He told them, “If your goal is to change your sexual attraction, that’s not a goal you can have in Maryland. You’ll have to work on something else until you’re 18.”
I would say: good, and let's keep it that way. This guy is a mess, he doesn't have any business "curing" anybody in our state. I can think of lots of ways to improve our legal system; making it easier for this man to have intimate personal time with children and adolesecents is not one of them.
To be clear: conversion therapy does not change anybody's sexual orientation. It is, first and foremost, a hoax. It is, beyond that, dangerous to young gay and lesbian people who feel there is something wrong with them when there is not. Society has passed the point where we need to inflict shame on people because of their sexual orientation.
Our Maryland legislators get it, they have made this sort of fake "therapy" illegal in our state, but this character is suing to try to get the courts to allow him to come here and engage in the harmful practice. The Republicans have been packing the courts with conservative judges, maybe he will get lucky and win this case -- I'm no lawyer and don't know what the odds are or the legal subtleties. But you have to admit, these are crazy times, and anything can happen. Let's keep an eye on it.
Baltimore Sun:
A psychotherapist filed a federal lawsuit Friday seeking to overturn Maryland’s ban on treating minors with conversion therapy, a controversial practice that attempts to change clients’ homosexual orientation.Christopher Doyle is somebody we have seen before. In 2013 he organized a big "Ex-Gay Pride" demonstration on Capitol Hill. You might remember -- they had announced that "thousands" would be coming, but fewer than ten people showed up.
Christopher Doyle is suing Gov. Larry Hogan and Attorney General Brian Frosh in U.S. District Court in Maryland, saying the ban violated his rights to free speech and the practice of religion, as well as the rights of clients “to prioritize their religious and moral values above unwanted same-sex sexual attractions, behaviors, or identities.”
Federal lawsuit seeks to overturn Maryland's ban on conversion therapy
Doyle claims to have "overcome unwanted same-sex attraction" himself, but actually his story is pretty bizarre, and there is some question as to whether he was ever actually gay himself. He told PFOX that when he was ten years old his thirteen-year-old female cousin began molesting him about once a week for a year. He told PFOX, "I wasn't getting enough attention from my parents, and it felt good to be close to my cousin in this way."
Doyle also told PFOX that when he was older, "I tried to have sex with the little girls that my mother watched in her daycare, and eventually, one of the girls told her parents what I was doing." It does not appear that he was criminally charged for abusing preschool girls, or that there were any consequences.
Then, he said, through adolescence, "Any way I could receive love, with girls or boys, I would take it. I soon learned that boys, however, were a lot easier to have sex with than girls." He told PFOX that "I had girlfriends in high school" but "took every opportunity" to have sex with boys.
Doyle claims that praying did not help him but he got a job and joined a Bible study group after college and then, without explanation, his interest in male sex partners disappeared. He told Queerty, "I never really went to therapy to try and eliminate same-sex attraction, it just happened automatically."
Doyle told The Sun that the conversion therapy ban prevents him from counseling minors who have an “unwanted same sex attraction.” He told them, “If your goal is to change your sexual attraction, that’s not a goal you can have in Maryland. You’ll have to work on something else until you’re 18.”
I would say: good, and let's keep it that way. This guy is a mess, he doesn't have any business "curing" anybody in our state. I can think of lots of ways to improve our legal system; making it easier for this man to have intimate personal time with children and adolesecents is not one of them.
To be clear: conversion therapy does not change anybody's sexual orientation. It is, first and foremost, a hoax. It is, beyond that, dangerous to young gay and lesbian people who feel there is something wrong with them when there is not. Society has passed the point where we need to inflict shame on people because of their sexual orientation.
Our Maryland legislators get it, they have made this sort of fake "therapy" illegal in our state, but this character is suing to try to get the courts to allow him to come here and engage in the harmful practice. The Republicans have been packing the courts with conservative judges, maybe he will get lucky and win this case -- I'm no lawyer and don't know what the odds are or the legal subtleties. But you have to admit, these are crazy times, and anything can happen. Let's keep an eye on it.
He is represented by the Florida-based Christian group, Liberty Counsel, which has challenged conversion therapy bans elsewhere in the country. The group is opposed to abortion rights and same-sex marriage, and represented Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who refused to marry such couples. The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated it an anti-LGBT hate group.
Mark Procopio, executive director of FreeState Justice, an LGBT advocacy group, said the legislation banning conversion therapy “is based on sounds medical and psychological research and expertise.”
“Existing federal case law shows that legislation like this seeking to protect minors from these harmful practices are constitutional and do not infringe on religious freedoms,” Procopio said. “No religious belief allows state-licensed practitioners to harm children under Maryland law."
posted by JimK at 7:32 PM
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"Christopher Doyle is suing Gov. Larry Hogan and Attorney General Brian Frosh in U.S. District Court in Maryland, saying the ban violated his rights to free speech and the practice of religion, as well as the rights of clients “to prioritize their religious and moral values above unwanted same-sex sexual attractions, behaviors, or identities.”
"moral values" - Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
“If your goal is to change your sexual attraction, that’s not a goal you can have in Maryland. You’ll have to work on something else until you’re 18.”
And by the same token, if a under legal age black child wants to attempt to lighten her skin to avoid the discrimination associated with being black adults like Doyle should have the right to council them to do so - free speech, y'all!
Harmless human characteristics should never be used as a basis for discrimination, be it the colour of someone's skin or their sexual orientation or gender identity.
That's just common sense morality.
LGBT people need to force the conversation with anti-gay christians onto the ground that completely favours us - morality.
The first amendment does not make my long and deeply held sincere beliefs about morality legally inferior to a christians long and deeply held "sincere" (religious) beliefs about morality.
Christians have twisted The Founders intentions for The First Amendment and instead of relying on it defend their right to worship and believe as they choose, they have used it as a weapon against harmless LGBT people to try to force us to live according to religious beliefs we don't hold.
The First Amendment does not grant legal and political superiority to evangelical christians over fair minded Americans.
"Mark Procopio, executive director of FreeState Justice, an LGBT advocacy group, said the legislation banning conversion therapy “is based on sounds medical and psychological research and expertise.”"
The overwhelming consensus of all major American medical and mental health organizations is that gayness is a normal, natural, and health variant for a minority of the population.
The American Psychiatric Institute says "Those same sex attracted individuals who positively accept their orientation are happier and better adjusted than those who do not."
Protect the health of children, Wyatt/Regina, they aren't being disproportionately targeted for violence except by immoral evangelical christians like you and Doyle.
Ban destructive and fake "exgay" "therapy"!
NEVER FORGET
The only way we can have the best society possible is for every religion to willingly subordinate itself to the greater good of humanity:
Society's highest priority is to maximize the happiness and minimize the pain for all in an equal and fair way.
Hugs and kisses everyone!
Re: every major medical and mental health association saying gay is okay
Don't get fooled by any of those rump radical christian groups of a handful of people with organizational names that people easily confuse with the real thing.
For example, the American College of pediatricians is a couple of dozen of anti-gay christian pediatricians who formed a group to put out anti-gay propaganda knowing people will wrongly think they are the 60,000 member strong American Academy of Pediatrics - the real professional association of pediatricians.
For every real mental or physical health organization with tens of thousands of members, there is a fake christian one trying to steal its legitimacy so a handful of anti-gay christians can push their immoral agenda under a stolen facade of legitimacy.
Evangelical christians have all manner of fake "research" from rump organizations like these they try to make official looking and authoritive by playing on people's understandable confusion of the fakes with the real deal.
Don't be fooled by anti-gay christians with authoritative appearing research from authoritative sounding organizations - its all a lie to promote the unjust oppression of harmless LGBT people who only ask to be allowed to live their lives without being demonized by immoral christians like Wyatt/Regina.
CHINA: Activists Launch Nationwide Truck Billboard Campaign Against Ex-Gay Torture Clinics [VIDEO]
January 20, 2019 Activism, LGBT News
The South China Morning Post reports:
On a hazy day this week, a convoy of three white trucks is making its way through the streets of Nanjing, in eastern China. They are covered in huge red banners with black lettering that look like billboards from a distance.
“Treating a ‘disease’ that doesn’t exist,” reads one. “Chinese classification of mental disorders still includes ‘sexual orientation disorder’,” says another. And the third simply asks: “For 19 years, why?”
The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice
Liberalism always wins out in the long run.
There.
Now all the truth is at the top of the thread to be the first thing in reader's minds.
Now Wyatt/Regina can show up and post the same tired old lies they've been posting for 20 years here and pretend they're not sadists delighting in torturing innocent LGBT people and they won't deceive anyone. :)
Trump Puts Another Brick in the Non-Existent Wall
We may finally have reached peak Trump. I don’t mean that this is the worst thing he’ll ever say or do, but it’s just such a perfect representation of everything he is — abysmally ignorant and totally oblivious to it. Before his remarks yesterday about a deal over the wall, he claimed that San Antonio has a wall and that’s why it’s so safe.
Thousands were surprised and confused Saturday to discover the reason for the Alamo City’s success and safety was our wall.
In comments preceding his announcement on the continuing partial government shutdown and border security, President Donald Trump cited San Antonio when speaking about the effectiveness of security walls.
“Everybody knows that walls work. You look at different places they put up a wall, no problem. You look at San Antonio. You look at so many different places. They go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.”
A few obvious problems with this.
1. San Antonio does not have a wall. It’s never had a wall.
2. In fact, not a single city in Texas has a wall.
3. In fact, not a single city in Arizona or California has a wall either.
4. San Antonio is 150 miles from the Mexican border.
Trump obviously does not know any of those things because he is the single most ignorant person ever to occupy the White House, perhaps all of government at any level. I can almost picture him now raging at his aides, demanding that they find some evidence that there’s a wall around San Antonio. CGI may be involved. We should all be very, very embarrassed by this.
It doesn't matter if you get your moral rules from God or rational thought, whether you call it a "sin" or a "wrongdoing", it all amounts more or less to the same thing. So, if you suggest to me I shouldn't care if you and all you christians (including people like Timothy Kincaid) think it isn't unfair to call gayness "a sin" because I think your god is imaginary...all I can say is B.S. to the highest order.
Calling gayness a sin/wrongdoing means the same thing - thinking it is an immoral behavior, regardless of where you think you get your morals from. And that causes people to dehumanize, attack, abuse, and murder harmless LGBT people. It causes people to think LGBT people deserve to be punished and the degree of harshness is the only thing up for debate.
Wrongfully calling gayness a sin, as we constantly see evangelical christians doing, is the immorality, not consenting adults who are harming no one.
it's a minor point
and, of course, you have to cling to it
Trump doesn't know there's no wall in San Antonio
so, obviously, it's right for Nancy Pelosi to shut down the government even though her constituents are not getting paid and Dreamers are missing their best chance at a real life
but it's more important for Nancy to win a petty pissing match
her time in Congress is short
"Doyle told The Sun that the conversion therapy ban prevents him from counseling minors who have an “unwanted same sex attraction.” He told them, “If your goal is to change your sexual attraction, that’s not a goal you can have in Maryland. You’ll have to work on something else until you’re 18.”"
he's right, and obviously so
if the therapy is nothing more than talk, it is protected by the Constitution
you can't outlaw religious groups from counseling people on how to overcome desire to sin, as they define it
"I would say: good, and let's keep it that way."
sounds like the logic of the mob
"This guy is a mess, he doesn't have any business "curing" anybody in our state. I can think of lots of ways to improve our legal system; making it easier for this man to have intimate personal time with children and adolesecents is not one of them."
the law doesn't just apply to him
you know that, right, Jim?
"To be clear: conversion therapy does not change anybody's sexual orientation."
or, anytime it does, TTF has a lot of explanations to fall back on
all sin leaves though who indulge with lasting effects
homosexuality is no different than any other kind of sin
this is not properly under the purview of the government
"It is, first and foremost, a hoax."
no, it isn't
"It is, beyond that, dangerous to young gay and lesbian people who feel there is something wrong with them when there is not."
that's your view of religion
you're entitled to it
you're not entitled to impose it on others
"Society has passed the point where we need to inflict shame on people because of their sexual orientation."
society doesn't need to be legislated, or imposed
"The Republicans have been packing the courts with conservative judges, maybe he will get lucky and win this case -- I'm no lawyer and don't know what the odds are or the legal subtleties."
we have a Supreme Court that adheres to the Constitution now
there is zero chance the Maryland law will ultimately survive
you don't need to be a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows
sorry, if you wanted to destroy the Constitution, Hillary was not someone you should have nominated
"But you have to admit, these are crazy times, and anything can happen."
oh yeah, kids being counseled by clergy
does it get crazier than that?
"Let's keep an eye on it."
you do that
we want to make sure you see how this turns out
"I just want to do God's will. And he's allowed me to go to the mountain. And I've looked over, and I've seen the promised land! I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land."
You said we should not discriminate against Christianity. You are the worst representation of what it means to be a Christian. I am a Christian woman, and what I do know about Christianity is that we bear no prejudice and everybody is welcome. So you can take all that disgrace Mr. Pence and you can look yourself in the mirror and you’ll find it right there.
EDITORIAL, Washington Post: Embrace deal to reopen the government
By The Washington Post
Posted at 2:01 AM
We can recite many reasons Democrats should spurn President Donald Trump’s Saturday afternoon offer to end the government shutdown. He should not be rewarded for having taken the government hostage. Any piece of a wall would reinforce his hateful, anti-immigrant rhetoric. He’s unreliable, having made and withdrawn similar offers in the past. This one isn’t good enough; “dreamers” need a path to citizenship, not merely a three-year reprieve.
Those are serious objections. But here is something serious on the other side of the equation: Real people. Real people, with real lives that depend utterly on what Congress and the president do now.
These are the dreamers, hundreds of thousands of young people who have played by the rules, studied, worked, made lives in this country. They are American in every way but in the eyes of the law, having been brought here as children - as first-graders, on average. Thanks to a dispensation from President Barack Obama, many of them have come out of the legal shadows and are contributing to this country. If no deal is reached, the Supreme Court is likely at some point to end that dispensation, as Trump has demanded, and they will be sent back into the shadows, or to countries of which they have no memory.
These are, as well, the hundreds of thousands of Haitians and Central Americans who were allowed to stay here after natural disasters in their countries. They, too, have made lives here, legally, in many cases having children who are U.S. citizens. Trump has ordered an end to their “temporary protected status.” After all these years, that would be cruel. It would also be foolish, as these U.S. residents help support, with remittances, countries that would only send more illegal immigration to the United States if their economies took another blow.
This is a merciful nation, committed to the idea of a statute of limitations: For all but the most serious crimes, prosecutors will not go after you if enough time has passed. Why, then, would we consider a patriotic, hard-working 25-year-old an unforgivable criminal for having been brought across the border by her parents when she was 5?
Trump’s offer should be welcomed but not accepted as the final word. There should be room to talk about the amount of money; how border security will be defined and enhanced; which categories of dreamers and TPS beneficiaries are covered; what their legal status will be, and for how long. But to refuse even to talk until the government reopens does no favors to sidelined federal workers and contractors.
Unquestionably a deal would contain galling elements for both sides; that’s the nature of compromise. But a measure of statesmanship for a member of Congress now is the ability to accept some disappointments, and shrug off the inevitable attacks from purists, if it means rescuing the lives of thousands of deserving people living among us.
"You said we should not discriminate against Christianity"
I never said that. Discriminate all you want. The government however cannot impose any view of religion
"You are the worst representation of what it means to be a Christian."
thanks
assuming you aren't Randy, could you explain why?
btw, I don't think I've ever specified my religious beliefs here
"I am a Christian woman,"
thanks for sharing
what kind of church do you go to?
"and what I do know about Christianity is that we bear no prejudice and everybody is welcome."
if you're describing yourself as a Christian, I would assume you know a lot about it
this statement sounds as if Christianity is something apart from you
were you honest when you said you were a "Christian woman"?
have you actually thought it through?
"So you can take all that disgrace Mr. Pence and you can look yourself in the mirror and you’ll find it right there."
not sure I follow this sentence
could you restate?
“I have no despair about the future,” wrote the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. in his 1963 “Letter from a Birmingham Jail.” “I have no fear about the outcome of our struggle in Birmingham. . . . We will reach the goal of freedom in Birmingham and all over the nation, because the goal of America is freedom.”
He was right.
It is a commonplace that racism is America’s original sin. Hardly a day goes by without attention being focused on instances of the racial injustice, friction, and double standards that can still be found in this nation. Open the morning paper or watch cable news, and there will be something to remind you of the country’s racial tensions — from controversy over flying the Confederate flag to NFL players protesting police brutality, from accusations of voter suppression in Georgia to an Iowa congressman defending “white nationalism.” It isn’t surprising that when Americans are asked in opinion polls whether race relations are getting better, many of them — sometimes most of them — gloomily reply that racism is still a major problem.
But it isn’t. It is only a minor problem now, one that has grown steadily less toxic and less entrenched. King predicted confidently that America would surmount its benighted racial past, and his confidence was not misplaced. Though his own life was cut short by a racist assassin, he foresaw that racism would lose its grip on American life.
“We’ve got some difficult days ahead, but . . . I’ve been to the mountaintop,” King said in his final speech. “I’ve looked over, and I’ve seen the Promised Land.” He knew that American racism would wither away. Fifty-one years later, it mostly has.
Consider some of the data on changing American values.
In 1958, 48 percent of white Americans polled by Gallup said that “if colored people came to live next door,” they would be likely to move. By 1978, only 13 percent still said that; by 1997, the proportion had fallen to 1 percent.
That dramatic metamorphosis in American attitudes shows up as well in the World Values Survey. When researchers in 59 countries asked residents how they would feel about having neighbors of a different race, Americans turned out to be among the least racist people in the world. The United States ranked 47th out of 59 countries surveyed, making it more racially accepting than Japan, Mexico, Germany, South Korea, and the Netherlands, among others.
That’s only one measure of racism’s profound decline. Friendship is another.
In 1964, a mere 18 percent of white Americans claimed to have a friend who was black. Four decades later, Gallup found that the proportion of interracial friendships had more than quadrupled: 82 percent of whites said they had close nonwhite friends (and 88 percent of blacks reported having close friends who were not black). Perhaps some white respondents were fibbing to appear more enlightened. But as commentator Jonah Goldberg observes, “the mere fact that they wanted others to believe they had a black friend is a kind of progress.”
It isn’t only American friendships that straddle the color line. American families do too.
In King’s day, the vast majority of Americans disapproved of marriages between whites and nonwhites. Today the opposite is true: Nearly 90 percent of the public approves of interracial marriage. In 1967, just 3 percent of couples tying the knot were of different races, according to the Pew Research Center. By 2015, 17 percent of all US newlyweds — one of every six — had married someone of another color. Naturally, the number of multiracial American children has soared in recent years as well.
When King was assassinated, tens of millions of Americans would have put the prospect of a black US president in the realm of sheer fantasy. In fact, the election of the first black president was just a few decades away. And when Barack Obama in 2008 won the White House, it was with a greater share of the white vote than six of the previous seven Democratic nominees. White racism, once such a powerful force in US electoral politics, had shrunk to puny insignificance.
None of this is to claim that racial ugliness has vanished outright, or that racial concerns can be safely ignored. It is to claim that despite the occasional eruption of racist hatred or cruelty, and despite the coarse racial crudeness of the incumbent president, the American people are far removed from the bigots of yesteryear. In less than two generations, the United States transformed itself from a largely racist society to a largely non-racist one. “We shall overcome,” King and the civil rights heroes vowed. Inspired by their courage, uplifted by their moral leadership, Americans did just that.
Stupid sexy Priya and her American LGBT friends. Me and my anti-gay, illegitimate christian sharia law Supreme court will get them...mumble, mumble, sasafrass mumble...
I may never have had an original thought in my head about what it means to be moral and people may have to tell he how to behave but, but,....now where was I going with this?
Lady Gaga said...
You said we should not discriminate against Christianity. You are the worst representation of what it means to be a Christian. I am a Christian woman, and what I do know about Christianity is that we bear no prejudice and everybody is welcome."
Thanks for your support, Lady Gaga. You are truly a woman in the proper spirit of christianity. Too bad Wyatt/Regina wasn't more like you. ;)
"so, obviously, it's right for Nancy Pelosi to shut down the government even though her constituents are not getting paid and Dreamers are missing their best chance at a real life"
You lying jackass.
Let's go to the videotape!
Trump: Proud to shut down government over wall
tЯump: You know what I'll say, yes. If we don't get what we want one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government.
Schumer: OK, absolutely. Fair enough, we disagree. We disagree.
tЯump: And I am proud, and I'll tell you what, I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems, and drugs pouring into our country so I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down.
Schumer nods yes.
tЯump: I'm not going to blame you for it. The last time you shut it down, it didn't work. I will take the mantle of shutting down and I'm going to shut it down for border security.
Schumer: But we believe you shouldn't shut it down.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/12/11/trump-pelosi-schumer-spending-bill-wall-government-shutdown-proud-sot-ip-vpx.cnn
"You said we should not discriminate against Christianity"
Wyatt/Regina said "I never said that. Discriminate all you want. The government however cannot impose any view of religion"
Wow. That's some mighty fine gross mischaracterization of all their past posts here. And by "mighty fine", I mean evil.
Wyatt/Regina occaisionally pay lip service to "you can discriminate against me if you want" and "the government can't impose religion" but the overwhelming character of their posts here is that:
1) Only gayness can be discriminated against.
2) Christians are designated as legally superior to all other Americans through the First Amendment.
They may be correct in that they have never literally spoken the words "You shouldn't discriminate against christians" or "The First Amendment means christians like me must have preferential treatment"....
but make no mistake about it, the former are an accurate characterization of their two decades of evildoing here.
I knew they'd pull the trigger on their lie and false accusation machine gun when they got to this thread and of course, they didn't "disappoint". That's why I put the facts about gayness at the top of the page so everyone could have a basis in reality from which to debate.
Hugs and kisses everyone!
Wyatt/Regina put up the thinnest of veneers of morality and then attack, attack,and attack innocent harmless LGBT people with delight. Give 'em back some of their own medicine, folks!
The truth is The Law should protect everyone from discrimination for harmless human characteristics.
That would make it illegal to discriminate against LGBT people, blacks, Jews, some Christians like Lady Gaga but not evil christians like Wyatt/regina - you could jusfifiably discriminate against them.
Wyatt/Regina have twisted the love of Christ into something hateful and intolerant. This is not the message good Christians send.
For every ten thousand posts Wyatt/Regina have made here over the past two decades calling for unjust discrimination against LGBT people I can think of two or three times they've said "Oh, but its okay to disciminate against christians too."
Then when someone posts "You say not to discriminate against christians..." haughty Wyatt/Regina in their indignant holier-than-thou attitude shriek "I never said any such thing!!!!!".
They're like the pharisees, they stake their reputation on following the letter of the law while just beatin' the living shite out of the spirit of the law.
This is the most evil debate tactic they use - specious characterization of the nature of their past posts here and everyone else. I have never seen anyone so distort reality the way Wyatt/Regina have done here over the past 20 years or so. The go to church on Sunday and smile at all their bigot friends and they all feel morally superior and they pharaseeically tell everyone "We're not saying we're better than anyone morally, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
Really Wyatt/Regina, for god's sake stop lying through being trivially technically correct while grotesquely distorting the meaning you versus we are sending.
The joke's on everyone at Environment Canada, I haven't worked for anyone since I left there in '95. I sat around with my cat, smoking weed, and staring out the window, philosophizing. And I did it for nine years on welfare. If anyone asked, I told them I was a paid gay rights activist employed by the Saskatchewan government. And I believed that. I considered it earning the money the taxpayers of Canada so graciously provided so I might survive - Thankyou everyone!
So, there you have it,I am that stereotypical lazy welfare bum leeching off the hard work of rich people like Theresa in her million dollar home with her $250,000 a year salary. She told me something to the effect of "Crawl back under the rock you came out from you bitch!" and absurdly claimed (or was it Wyatt/Regina" that the average single person on welfare gets more cash than the median income of Americans.
Well, I got about 6 or 7k a year, I forget the exact figure. I checked and the average median income of Americans at the time, if I remember correctly was 65k a year. So that bitch (or Wyatt/Regina) was going around telling everyone she could, people like me who are too lazy too work, sit around smoking weed while the government pays us $65k a year to do it. and she can't afford to live because they pay in taxes 30% of the 250k a year her and her husband make and she's being treated as an actual slave having to pay for skanky hoes like me to live high on the hog!
I'll bet neither Theresa nor Wyatt/Regina has ever experienced the thrill of flushing their toilet and having turds partially fill the bathtub.
So, yeah, screw society, I went on welfare because I was too lazy to work and I wanted to sit at home smoking weed for the stinking 6k a year I struggled to survive on for several years.
Oh, and there was the little matter of the, I'm not sure how many (3? 4? more?) psychotic episodes I had in '95 and throughout the time I was on the acreage - they all, blend into one and another and I'm not sure what happened when or how long it all lsted, I think typically these psychotic episodes with a total break from reality lated somewhere between 2 days and a week.
Let me tell you, that is a lot of fun! Seriously though, it is absolutely terrifying when the only coherent thought you can form is "I can't form any coherent thoughts!!!!!". So, yeath, between Environment Canada and religious conservative bigots like Wyatt/Regina, I literally lost my mind. I'm sure Russel and his supporters intended that and took all manner of legal, semi-legal, and illegal steps to make that happen, and by god, they succeeded. I know I imagined some of the stuff I thought they were doing to me, but certainly not all.
But now that I'm married to the most wonderful man in the world and living as the woman I am, I have never been happier :)
Look, Wyatt/Regina, by their own admission, taunt me for their own joy and do everything they can to take my joy away from me and make me miserable for no good reason. And then they go to church every sunday and tell themselves and all their bigot friends what fine christians they are.
Oh, and off-topic to Justin - Justin, this new marijuana law, where you can only grow 4 plants per household, its waaaay too restrictive. A heavy daily marijuana smoker like me used to go through 1 gram a day. To supply that much weed throughout the year I found one needs 9-12 mature plants and anywhere from 30-40 seedlings or cuttings from female plants in order to never run out, just for one smoker. So, please at your earliest convenience, (after you're re-elected, perhaps?) change the marijuana law so one can grow up to 50 plants per dwelling.
God, I'd do anythng for that sexy man!
Wyatt/Regina, please stop lying through gross mischaracterization and indignantly denying you said what people paraphrase from you because you trivially never said literally what they correctly accuse you of.
Come on, I need to get back to working on my Corvette, please? Pretty please with sugar on it?
Come on, don't make me babysit this blog to inform the new readers I'm trying to bring here that when you indignantly deny saying something they paraphrase you saying, its you lying, not them.
If anyone would like to see what the Gay Agenda looks like, here's a link to my 79 Corvette chrome bumper conversion project :)
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c3-general/3748259-priya-s-79-chrome-bumper-conversion-project.html
Please remember, it is poor etiquette to bring up the fact that I was male at one time or use my dead name,as Wyatt and Regina Haridman have had so much fun doing here.
My legal name is Priya Marie Lynn, I am a woman, and my prefered pronouns are "Her" and "she".
Thanks for your time,everyone!
Hugs and Kisses.
And now Wyatt/for gods sake, stop targeting your anger at me (and Lgbt people in general) and start working to make the world a better place.
The word faces existential threats that can only be solved by a united humanity. Clearly religion never has and never will unite humanity.
If we want to address global problems and have the best society we can, every religion must willingly subordinate itself to the umbrella values of "Our highest priority goal is to maximize the happiness for everyone in an equal and fair way" and "The Foundation of Morality is not harming innocent people".
These are my long and deeply held sincere beliefs about morality. The First Amendment should never be used as a weapon to entrench in law superiority of religious beliefs over long and deeply held sincere secular beliefs about morality.
Hugs and kisses, everyone!
Wyatt/Regina said I was "mental case" for wanting to maximize their happiness as well as my own. Did they know that at various times I lived on the acreage I literally was a mental case? Did they know I had a number of stays in the psychiatric ward of a Regina hospital?
And they're having fun here trying to distress me. For twenty years.
Good Christians indeed.
Hey Wyatt/Regina, do you know your fellow evangelical Warren Throckmorton? You three should talk.
He bore the brunt of some of my psychotic episodes because he was promoting the "exgay" "therapy" lie. He's changed a lot over the years. He's made the greatest improvement in being a good person I've seen out of any christian.
I don't think he tries to con anyone with that "exgay" crap anymore, and he's often stood up to christians like you who attack LGBT people because it gives you a warm feeling in your naughty bits to do so. I don't know if he still immorally opposes gay marriage and I don't want to know. I am amazed that it appears that now I am more ideologically aligned with Warren Throckmorton than with amazing LGBT advocate Regan Ducasse, or superficially supportive gay christian Timothy Kincaid who unfortunately overshadowed all his great intellectual work on fake anti-gay "research" (like from the "Family" "Research" Council or Focus on the "Family") by legitimizing and giving deference to people holding the false and destructive belief gayness is a sin/wrongdoing.
If anyone reading has an email address for Warren Throckmorton, could you please send him links to the three Teach The Facts threads below so he can have a look at how a typical "upstanding" citizen of the evangelical community treats a harmless transgender woman.
I was going to post the links on his blog, but I don't want to blindside him with something he will surely find parts of offensive and frankly, trying to send links to everyone in the world to these three threads, the epitome of the 20 years of back and forth I've had with Wyatt/Regina, is taking a lot out of me.
ponent and if I do say so myself, mopped the floor with them:
http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2018/12/flynn-free-trump-continues-to-march-off.html#comments
http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2018/12/drowning-accomplished.html#comments
http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2019/01/moco-hunkers-down.html#comments
Wyatt/Regina said "btw, I don't think I've ever specified my religious beliefs here".
Oh,bullshite and you know it. You've posted your hate-filled rants here for twenty years about how harmless gays are "immoral" and "destroying society", and "gayness is a sin" and "Priya you're wrong, this is what christians believe (and then they grossly distort what good Christians believe).
It is fair and accurate paraphrasing of your posts here over the past two decades that you both constantly scream from the mountaintops "We are hateful christians and our Jesus is all about "God hates fags!".
And you keep trying to hide behind the scanty, hole filled facade of "I don't think I ever literally posted on this blog "I am a christian and my religion is solely about hating gays".
Screw off, grotesque liars, that's been the central theme of all your posts here you holier-than-thou sadists.
And if your agenda isn't evil, why are you constantly encouraging people to incorrectly think there's reasonable doubt you two are evangelical christians?
Wyatt/Regina said "this statement sounds as if Christianity is something apart from you were you honest when you said you were a "Christian woman"?have you actually thought it through?"
JFC, (can I post that here?) these losers post "I never said I was a christian, nyah, nyah" and then post that transparent attempt to put unjustified doubt in a good Christian woman's conscience??!!
Oh, brother, give me a break!
clearly, we have a deranged person posting here
as they now have chosen to try and deceive everyone, just let me know if you are not Randy
otherwise, I'll likely not respond and assume it is he
at this point, it's not clear there are any other TTFers posting
Americans are entitled to religious freedom, but there are limits
It used to be that budget cuts were the best way to kill a law you hated but lacked the votes to formally repeal. You know, if you can’t beat ’em, defund ’em.
Times have changed. Now the mantra is: If you can’t beat ’em, out-God ’em.
Don’t like same-sex marriage, contraception, HIV testing or even child labor laws? Never you worry: Just say that a higher power has exempted you, even if your exemption means trampling on other people’s rights.
Texas’s attorney general recently encouraged public officials to deny same-sex couples marriage licenses if doing so violated their religious convictions. Other state politicians and companies have also recently tried to cite religious belief as an excuse for refusing to serve gay men and lesbians or to treat them equally under the law, even in states where sexual orientation is a legally protected class.
“Religious liberty” has been invoked to circumvent other laws, too. Last year’s Hobby Lobby ruling allowed companies to exempt themselves from an Obamacare requirement that insurance plans cover birth control, and now congressional Republicans want to expand that exemption. A frightening section of a House appropriations bill would let any employer or insurance company deny health-care coverage for any service that they have a “moral or religious objection” to, even if that service is required by law. This could include mental health screenings and vaccinations, in addition to contraception and abortion.
Yet another House bill would block a D.C. law that protects employees from discrimination based on their reproductive health-care decisions (for example, a boss could not fire a worker for having received in vitro treatments). Killing the law would effectively say that the religious freedom of bosses trumps that of their employees.
In these and other instances, “religious liberty” torchbearers speak as if there is a rich tradition of accommodating any citizen who says that a law burdens her faith, regardless of the societal fallout. But the actual history of religious accommodation looks different.
Yes, since the dawn of the republic, there have been protections for the free exercise of religion, both in our Constitution and in separate statutes, such as those relating to the military draft and religious pacifists. But religious exemptions to laws have been granted only within very prescribed bounds — including the principle that you’re entitled to religious accommodations only if they don’t burden or harm others, or otherwise create havoc in the legal system.
Bob Jones University lost its tax-exempt status because it refused to admit students engaged in or advocating interracial relationships. The school had claimed that it should be exempted from anti-discrimination law because its leaders “genuinely believe[d] that the Bible forbids interracial dating and marriage.”
In the case perhaps most directly comparable to the latest arguments made about religious liberty and gay customers, 1968’s Newman v. Piggie Park Enterprises, the Supreme Court affirmed the principle that a barbecue chain could not refuse to serve black people, in violation of an anti-discrimination statute, simply because the owner’s “religious beliefs compel him to oppose any integration of the races whatever.”
Constitutional and statutory protections of religious liberty give Americans the right to worship whomever they choose, however they like, on whatever day they like. But there are well-established limits to weaponizing those beliefs against your fellow man.-
Hey Wyatt/Regina, if you think merely being a christian makes you a good person (and don't lie, you surely do), why are you trying to hide that you are a christian?
If you think its moral to be a christian, and this is the right path for every person, why do you dishonestly keep encouraging people to believe there is doubt about the obvious?
Hmmmmmmm?????
236 hours and counting since I gently and reasonably asked Wyatt/Regina "What is your highest priority goal for society?"
Why won't they answer??
And let's not forget the crooked Mitch McConnel, Senate majority leader who in a flood of lies and a Pharasean(?) facade stole a Supreme Court appointment from Obama.
Mitch McConnel could immediately end this destructive farce over the Tяump Vanity Wall by bringing back to the floor the Senate bill that the Senate had unanimously passed, pass it again, if Tяump vetos it, override his veto.
Talk about the epitome of hypocrisy - I still can't get over that Wyatt/Regina, of all people tried to make Lady Gaga feel like she wasn't a good Christian.
Wow! That's some staggering hypocrisy!
Absolutely shameful.
Contrary to the lie Jeff Sessions told about people like me, "Good people DO smoke marijuana."!
Procter & Gamble recently put out an online ad for Gillette razors that showed men and boys being bad and that asked, “Is this the best a man can get?”
Well, no — it’s not. It should be obvious that bullying and street-fighting are not the “best a man can get,” whatever that means. It is bad behavior — plain and simple. To show pictures of boys fighting and suggesting that this represents anyone’s ideal for male behavior is not only flagrantly dishonest; it is stupid as well. To show an example of online bullying and suggest that this is the sole domain of boys and men is not only stupid; it is flagrantly dishonest — girls are at least as ruthless as boys when it comes to online bullying.
This ad illustrates, probably better than anything I can think of, both the allure and the danger of “identity politics.” It must have seemed like a great idea to the advertising geniuses at Procter & Gamble to capture the angst of the modern man in this era of “Me Too” and “Toxic Masculinity,” but instead of celebrating the positive aspects of maleness, they decided to shame men into changing their hormonal spots. (Wait a minute, isn’t “shaming” just another form of “bullying”?)
Sooner or later, it should become clear that “identity politics” is really just Tribalism 2.0, and has the same strengths and weaknesses as the old version. By encouraging blocs of people to band together, you magnify the power of the individual as a representative of a group, but by segregating people into discrete groups, you isolate them from those who are unlike them. That has never worked well — whether in Rwanda, where the Hutus tried to wipe out the Tutsis, or in India, where a nationwide partition was required between Hindus and Muslims in order to prevent them from killing each other.
We won’t see genocidal war between men and women, for obvious reasons, but turning the sexes against each other won’t work out well either, especially not if one of the genders is seen as superior and oppressed and the other is seen as inferior and oppressive. As a historic fact, most cultures of the world have been patriarchies and thus men have wielded power more readily than women, but that doesn’t mean women are necessarily going to do better at it when they wrest power away from men. Yet that is the implicit — and often explicit — assumption of political analysts when they study the increasing political power of women. David Gergen, for instance, in an article for CNN co-written with researcher James Piltch, said that “a large increase in female leaders could be a saving grace for the country's hyperpolarized, venomous politics. They may just be better at leading than men.”
What? Really? On what basis?
Gergen and Piltch have this to say to back up their outrageous claim:
“When it comes to the respective leadership strengths of different genders, it's hard to be sure what is absolutely, verifiably true. But research suggests women possess two leadership qualities that our country needs right now.”
“Research suggests...”? Really? That’s it?
Here’s what my research suggests: Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Mazie Hirono, Sheila Jackson Lee, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Rashida (“Impeach the m-----f---er”) Tlaib are not a “saving grace for the country's hyperpolarized, venomous politics.” They are instead the poster girls for venomous politics.
Yet according to Gergen and Piltch, “women tend to bring something as leaders that is sorely lacking in Washington: Ethics and integrity.”
This can be challenged on two fronts. One, it is an implicit indictment of men across the board in Washington, D.C., yet the absence of real indictments would suggest that a vast majority of men serving in Congress, the administration or the bureaucracy are beyond reproach when it comes to ethics and integrity. Second, there is zero evidence that women are more ethical than men, unless wearing pussy hats is a de facto declaration of decency. Oh, yeah — Alice Eagly wrote a book that claims women are “seemingly” less likely to encourage unethical practices “when on corporate boards or other positions of leadership than men.” As the Gergen article concedes, “research confirming Eagly’s findings remains limited,” but hey, there is a lot of unscientific anecdotal evidence we can rely on to prove what we already believe to be true. Oh, wait — that’s called confirmation bias. Never mind.
What Gergen’s “think piece” really illustrates is not that women are better at leadership, but that men are still masters at sweet-talking women. In writing an article titled “Why Nancy Pelosi is good for America,” Gergen and Piltch are telling women what they think women want to hear, but smart women aren’t buying it. Human frailty is not gender specific; nor is leadership. Nor do all people of a particular gender, race or sexual orientation think or act alike — despite the goading of Gillette or Gergen. Nancy Pelosi is good for America in exactly the same degree as Donald Trump, and for exactly the same reason — they both fight for what they believe in.
You see, for conservatives such as myself, our identity is not tied up in our skin color or our gender, but rather in our beliefs. That’s why I could support Ben Carson for president in 2016 and want to see Nikki Haley run for president in 2024. Like most people who value ethics and integrity (and, yes, that includes both men and Republicans) I am pleased to find those qualities in anyone, and considering the range of temptations available in public life, I am not surprised to find them lacking in either men or women.
Ultimately the problem with identity politics is that it is divisive politics. On Martin Luther King Day, we should acknowledge that oppression by race, gender and religion does happen, and must be rooted out, but we should also have the courage, like King, to envision an America that judges people “by the content of their character,” not what group they belong to. If we are going to condemn white nationalism (and we most emphatically should) then we ought also condemn other forms of tribalism. When people celebrate being a woman, for instance, they are also celebrating being a NOT-man. We are celebrating our differences rather than that which binds us together — our American identity and, ultimately, our human identity.
Most of us grew up reciting the “Pledge of Allegiance,” and mouthed the words by rote “one nation, indivisible,” but yet today we support every assault on that union by pitting one group — one race, one religion, one gender — against another.
There is only one way to imagine a good end to all this division. What is the smallest indivisible unit? As Red Skelton described it in his remarkable version of the “Pledge,” it is “I, me, an individual, a committee of one.” When all those I’s put aside our differences and join together with others who are both like and unlike us, then we may rediscover the strength of a republic that was born with the remarkable words “We the People.”
Let’s hope that day is not far off.
Re: "I never said I was a christain [on this blog]".
I remember not too long ago, Wyatt/Regina say something to the effect of "Homosexuality should happen in society's shadows". [And don't effen deny it, you two]
You can see here, they also like to operate in the shadows. Anonymously,hatefully, mockingly, fatuously implying there's significant chance that he's not the evangelical christian we all know Wyatt/Regina are. And then lying their asses of, day in, day out, for 20 gd years. And they call me a "mental case"
Geez Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous, enough with the cut and paste already. At least I post 90% of my own original material.
"Lady Gaga weighed in on the nation’s current state of affairs during her “Enigma” show in Las Vegas on Saturday, joining an ever-growing list of celebrities to voice their disapproval of the Trump administration."
yeah, she's a real risk taker
"The Grammy winner singled out Vice President Mike Pence, slamming him for thinking “it’s acceptable that his wife work at a school that bans LGBTQ.”"
uh, Ms. Gaga, why would a gay person want to work at a place that holds to scriptural truths about sexual morality?
the ban simply eliminates confusion
"The vice president has defended Karen Pence’s decision to teach at the Immanuel Christian School, which bans LGBTQ employees, students and families. In an interview with Eternal World Television Network, Mike Pence likened the uproar over his wife’s decision to an attack on Christianity."
well, yes, he's correct
"“You are wrong,” the singer said, before speaking of her own Christian faith:
You said we should not discriminate against Christianity."
can we get a quote of Mike Pence saying that?
"You are the worst representation of what it means to be a Christian. I am a Christian woman, and what I do know about Christianity is that we bear no prejudice and everybody is welcome."
we're talking about a school, not a church
"So you can take all that disgrace Mr. Pence and you can look yourself in the mirror and you’ll find it right there."
Ms. Gaga, this sentence doesn't male sense
"The “A Star Is Born” actress"
you know, Ms Gaga, I thought our acting was good and the best parts of the movie were when you sang, but what a waste of time and money
who would be interested in some alcoholic singer drinking himself to death?
btw, your Super Bowl show a couple of years ago was great
"also issued a message to Donald Trump amid the ongoing partial government shutdown, asking if “the ... president of the United States could please put our government back in business.”"
you need to ask Nancy Pelosi
she could reopen the government without giving anything of significance, other than her hatred of Trump
"“There are people who live paycheck to paycheck and need their money,” she said to applause from the audience."
the same applied to all the people in the manufacturing sector who were abandoned by Obama the Worst and now have hope again because we have a President who seek their best interest
and all the minorities who suffered chronic unemployment because of Dem policies?
is it a coincidence that minority unemployment is at its lowest level ever since Trump started cracking down on illegal immigration?
Exactly two years ago Sunday, President Trump told the world when he took the oath of office: “January 20th, 2017 will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.”
From the day he was inaugurated, President Trump set out to make our country better off than it was before.
On Sunday, we marked the second anniversary of those inaugural words, we reflect on the historic results this administration has brought to Americans from coast to coast – and the promises this president continues to honor to the men and women of this country.
Take today’s booming economy, for example. Gross domestic product growth is cranking at a nearly 3 percent annual rate, and even reached a 4.2 percent annual rate in the second quarter of last year. This is a feat that former President Obama famously claimed that “President Trump would need a magic wand” to accomplish.
But President Trump does not need magic to get results for American workers and families. He and Republicans in Congress delivered the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which resulted in pay raises, bonuses, and benefits for millions of Americans. The legislation simplified the federal tax code and encouraged entrepreneurs to launch and grow their businesses.
Thanks to this administration’s pro-growth policies, over 4.5 million new jobs have been added to the workforce. The unemployment rate remains at 3.9 percent, near its lowest in 50 years. The number of people on food stamps is near an eight-year low.
Communities across the country have felt the impact of our stronger economy: African-American, Asian-American and Hispanic-American unemployment have all hit record lows under this president’s leadership.
President Trump negotiated a new trade deal between the United States, Mexico and Canada to protect American workers and intellectual property while increasing American exports. He is holding our trading partners accountable for unfair practices and pursuing deals that support domestic industries, including steel and aluminum.
Meanwhile, the president expanded veterans’ access to quality health care, including mental health treatment and suicide prevention, and secured $716 billion in defense funding to continue to rebuild our military.
Thanks to renewed American leadership in the world, nearly all ISIS-held territories have been liberated. Corrupt regimes in Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela have been sanctioned.
The Trump administration withdrew from a dangerous nuclear deal with Iran, began negotiations to denuclearize the Korean peninsula, encouraged NATO members to increase their defense spending, and secured the release of American citizens who were wrongfully detained abroad – including three Americans who had been imprisoned in North Korea.
Americans have watched Democrats sit on their hands time and again instead of coming to the table and working with Republicans and President Trump to deliver results for this country.
The safety and well-being of the American people remain at the forefront of the Trump administration’s agenda. Law enforcement now has the resources to hire more officers, buy equipment, fight violent crime, and crack down on dangerous street gangs like MS-13.
The president recently signed into law the bipartisan First Step Act, which reforms our criminal justice system to reduce recidivism and keep violent criminals out of our neighborhoods.
Declaring the opioid crisis a public health emergency, the president secured $6 billion in funding to fight the epidemic. He is committed to stopping the flow of harmful drugs into our country by securing our southern border, where just last year U.S. Border Patrol seized 282,000 pounds of cocaine, 248,000 pounds of methamphetamine, 6,500 pounds of heroin, and 2,400 pounds of fentanyl.
President Trump stands firm in his call for a border barrier to keep American communities safe from these illicit substances and reduce illegal immigration.
Meanwhile, Democrats have done nothing to help the American people over the past two years and have no accomplishments to speak of. Today, they continue to hold government funding hostage rather than work with the administration to secure our border and safeguard our country.
In an address to the nation from the White House on Saturday, the president proposed a reasonable good-faith compromise to Democrats to protect 1 million immigrants from deportation for three years in exchange for $5.7 billion in funding for the border barrier needed for our national security. Sadly for our country, Democratic congressional leaders rejected the president’s compromise proposal immediately.
Americans have watched Democrats sit on their hands time and again instead of coming to the table and working with Republicans and President Trump to deliver results for this country.
President Trump will not be deterred from doing what is right for the American people. As he enters the third year of his presidency, there is much more success still to come, and many more promises to be fulfilled for our future.
We will continue to be inspired by his inaugural words: “Do not let anyone tell you it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America.”
Hey everyone!
Please tweet "Umbrella values" #priyasez and a link to this comment thread.
:)
What are your "Umbrella Values"?
What is your highest priority goal for society?
Tweet if you agree, #priyasez
#UmbrellaValues
giggity
and another thing. I mentioned earlier Warren Throckmorton taking the brunt of one the psychotic breaks from reality I suffered. Apparently I also scared bejesus out of Dr. Dorothy Lindeman circa the same time.
I'm really sorry you two, this stuff is literally so important to me, it sometimes drives me insane.
Not to mention, Wyatt/Regina keep posting how happy they are about the illegitimate Supreme Court and the new court to come.
I don't know about you, but it comes across to me as a bit ghoulish - eagerly awaiting the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg so they can get revenge on me and my American LGBT friends.
Wyatt/Regina owe a BIG apology to every LGBT person in the world and every Christian sincerely trying to make the world a better place. As well as Warren Throckmorton and Dr. Dorothy Lindeman
My best friend hasn't spoken to me in 20 years because people like Warren Throckmorton and Wyatt/Regina push the false idea of "Gayness is a sin, but don't feel bad, I'm a sinner too."
Little weed makes all the hurties go away.
Thank god for Canada!
In less than 24 hours is way too many!
it's hard to argue with that, 57 comments
the style of a certain unstable commenter here makes the blog worthless
I'd suggest the administrators limit comments to 5 a day per commenter
Anonymous homophobes who denigrate commenters have no business here.
Start your own blog and dick-tate all the rules you want.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-voters-now-blame-him-for-the-government-shutdown/2019/01/20/416051de-1b55-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html
"Anonymous homophobes"
well, I'm only one person
and I'm not afraid of homos at all
kind of feel sorry for them
I realize that may seem offensive to you
but saying I'm afraid of homos is offensive to me
see how it works?
"who denigrate commenters"
well, that's a chicken-egg problem
but watching the psychotic explosion of our most unstable commenter today, I'm surprised you'd go there
"have no business here."
what point is a blog where everyone agree with each other?
"Start your own blog"
tell our most unstable commenter
"and dick-tate all the rules you want."
heck, I just made a common sense suggestion
"https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-voters-now-blame-him-for-the-government-shutdown/2019/01/20/416051de-1b55-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html"
which means he'll get the credit when the Dems cave
Good people don't go around saying "Gayness is a sin, but don't worry, I'm a sinner too."
Tweet if you agree!
#Jeffsessions #weed
Hey Wyatt/Regina, I put on a pretty good act, eh?
Truth is I'm super stressed and if it weren't for the love of my husband I'd be having a psychotic break from reality right now.
Environment Canada, I'm telling you, you let a genius slip through your hands :)
#humble #effyou
23 years later and I'm still having nightmares about that place
Ever since Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearings, it has become increasingly clear that there is a new, distorted narrative that has taken hold among the women’s movement: As Roe goes, so goes womankind.
For some, this notion is a matter of willful ignorance, used to justify a social and political agenda, or to prop up the Roe economy. For a growing number of people, it is bona fide ignorance due to a fake science conjured up by that monumental Supreme Court ruling.
The “science” established in Roe v. Wade has become so pervasive and entrenched among society that many people truly believe that the Supreme Court decision is the standard in regards to human development, and the linchpin of a woman’s very humanity. Thus, feminists who accept this fiction maintain that anyone and anything that represents a hazard to Roe is complicit in a toxic culture that views girls and women as less than fully human.
With this understanding of their worldview, one can comprehend whence comes the hysteria related to perceived threats to Roe with each new Supreme Court nominee. One can also see why they are battling for Roe instead of marching for life and for science on the National Mall.
Roe propagates scientific illiteracy about human reproduction and human development, to the point that it dehumanizes women to this day. And the false science embedded in Roe is causing many male and female human beings as embryos and fetuses to be killed, precluding ethically and legally valid informed consent, poisoning femininity, undermining the value of girls and women, and contributing to the erosion of human dignity for society as a whole.
Roe established a number of arbitrary and unscientific fallacies about embryology in order to justify the manipulation and termination of human beings. Some of these falsehoods include that science does not know when a human life starts, that there is an open question on whether or not a human embryo or fetus are human beings, and that some human beings are more fully human than others.
Supposedly, in the eyes of that decision, there are nonpersons and pre-persons, and you get to decide and choose which is which. Or, you may just be terminated.
Science does in fact know when a new, whole, individual and living human being begins to exist. It is an objective fact of the biological science of human embryology. This scientific reality was even instituted internationally in 1942, in the Carnegie stages of human embryonic development. Human embryologists view the Carnegie stages and the Carnegie chart as chemists view the periodic table, as their gold standard.
The Carnegie stages contain the 23 stages of development of the early human being during the embryonic period, starting at the beginning of fertilization through eight full weeks post-fertilization. They document precise details, including that a human being who is sexually reproduced begins his or her existence at the beginning of the process of fertilization (Carnegie stage 1a), at first contact between two mere cells, the sperm and the oocyte or egg.
Science also knows that this new single-cell human being continues to develop as the same human being during the remainder of the embryonic period, the fetal period, and then after birth, throughout the subsequent periods of development until death. This is a biological fact known as the continuum of human life. The idea that some human beings are less than fully human persons is a false concept that is based upon erroneous science, and any conclusions drawn from such “facts” are by definition invalid. If the accurate scientific facts are used, the human being and the concept of the “human person” are inseparable.
Based on Roe's faulty science, feminists have come to believe that their choice causes substantial change in living things — that women can legitimately choose someone into existence, and that their DNA also accords them the power to end a human being’s life, prior to his or her birth — and yes, that even includes terminating another individual, living female member of the human species.
This may seem both empowering and appealing, as a matter of convenience, profits or otherwise. But the belief that some human beings have a different status than other human beings is incorrect, and it is the essence of a scientifically illiterate, toxic culture that breeds dehumanization and oppression, not liberation. Heaven forbid you find yourself someday among the “nonperson” set.
For nearly fifty years, the greatest casualties have beset the already-existing human beings in their embryonic and fetal periods of development, as well as women who gave their malformed consent to their destruction. Unless the Supreme Court acknowledges the scientific fact about abortion and what it does to a human being, Roe will continue to undermine feminism and lead to tragic consequences for an escalating number and scope of women and of humankind.
It's time to stop indulging science-deniers.
Wyatt/Regina,the truth is I'm a total wreck. I'm not sleeping at night, I'm sleeping during the day,I'm not eating, I'm pacing back and forth in this 600 sq ft house and I just feel like crying.
I am serious, if it weren't for the love of my husband - the love you would destroy if you could - I'd be literally going crazy right now.
"Dancing away my hunger pangs, moving my feet so my stomach won’t hurt
I’m kinda like Jesus, but not in a sacrilegious way."
Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most.
Dear readers,
While I was commenting on the previous three commnent threads I got to thinking, "You know, this is pretty good stuff I'm writing". And then halfway through the comment thread before this one I thought "I should send links to these three threads to everyone and clearly show how your typical evangelical American abuses LGBT people.
It all came very easily to me and I almost enjoyed writing it.
So I decided I should send links to these three comment threads to, say, 1000 email addresses for opinion leaders. "I'll change the world!" I excitedly thought.
And then when it came to sending the links to the three previous comment threads to everyone I could manage, for some reason I was overwhelmed with stress and like I say, I'm barely holding it together.
I'm not the type of person who can say "I'm going to change the world" and see it through. I think if I sent the 3 links to 15 email addresses and posted it to maybe five web sites around the internet.
Please don't let anti-gay bigots get away with treating harmless LGBT people like me this way for their own amusement. My example is far from rare or unusual. This sort of thing happens every day. Please help me stop it.
Email,tweet, post on a blog site.
Thankyou for your time, I am totally spent, please help.
God, if you're out there, please show the world of the very typical unfair cruelty of religious conservatives towards harmless LGBT people.
Wyatt/Regina, if Transwomen "aren't porcelain dolls", why do I feel like crawling into bed crying after dealing with the abuse I get from sadists like you?
I was just joking, Wyatt/Regina
Less than 4 & 1/2 hours sleep last night and now wide awake. Are we having fun yet?
Wheeeeee!
This must be how Tяump feels when he's up way too early and screaming at the internet.
Hahahahahahahahaha!
No, in all seriousness, I'm joking.
Posted by David Walker
The Collapse of The Amercan Empire?
"both parties owned by corporations" but overlooks Democrats support $15 minimum wage like him.
Astounding video about the decline of the American empire and how to stop it. Although I didn't agree entirely this is the most amazing analysis I've seen in many, many years, maybe ever!
I'm not sure if David Walker is the name of the guy in the video or the Disqus user I stole the above link from.
Either way, I"m serious, I was floored by this stuff. Whether or not the guy in the video is David Walker everyone should see this.
But,yeah, soooo tired of the bothsiderism of the lamestream media - the two parties are not remotely alike!!!!!
You know, now that I think about it, it kind of angers me a bit. The guy in the video link above, does all this amazing job, clearly he's got tons of relevant experience and is a genius, but then he has to go and pretty much overshadow the entire thing with this stupid lamestream media bothsiderism.
I on the various sites I've been posting I often mention that it was virtually a miracle that Tяump managed to squeak out the narrowest of electoral college victories by a margin of a mere 77,000 votes in 3 states while Hillary got a whopping 3 million more votes than Tяump.
7 or 8 things had to be played to perfection by the Republicans for Tяump to pull off the greatest upset defeat in U.S. electoral history since Dewey v Truman (?) I'm not even sure which party the two belonged to, but that's how big an upset it was.
Republicans perfectly played the voter suppression game. They perfectly played the B.S. game, as seems to happen every election cycle, just big, bold, beautiful lies, the best lies you've ever seen, bigly, believe me, I'll tell you. (tbc)
Republicans perfectly played the Russian collusion. They perfectly played Comey against FBI policy screaming about the Hillary nothing burger and ignoring the serious and well evidenced concerns about Tяumpgate.
And of all the things the Republicans played perfectly, each and everyone of which they had to break their way for Tяump to squeak out a win, the bothersiderism of the lamestream broke 100% for Tяump too. The lamestream media hammered relentlessly at the questions (dah, dah dahhh!) surrounding her emails and ignored the lifetime of corruption by Tяump, his family, his supporters, and Republicans in general.
And then the guy in the video above, who could have gained massive media coverage for his amazing ideas, overshadows the damn thing entirely with the extremely unfortunate lamestream media bothsiderism Tяump could not have won 2016 without.
For two years Trump has been going around parroting the often obscure policies of Russian president Vladimir Putin (such as the false idea that Montenagrans are violent and will start WWIII). While the administration has put sanctions on Russia, the WhiteHouse has dragged its heals at every step in implementing them. There is an ever growing pile of evidence Trump seeks to diminish the United States and NATO and enhance the power and wealth of dictators around the world he has never ending praise for.
To be honest, I was shocked by the attitude of Wyatt/Regina, the total insincerity, the "Let's burn down the house we all live in to spite liberals" kinda "screw YOU!" a scarily high percentage of the population has.
Wyatt/Regina remind me of my conservative brother who goaded me left and right and did everything he could to upset me. I think a solid 40% of the population is like this - "Screw you, you damn liberal, quoting facts and logic and making me feel small - I'm going to blow it all up, rationaliyt be damned!".
To me the aforementioned scares the shite out of me. Really people, how can we not all be on the same side?
Down the road sometime I'll post about the bigotry and hatred of my brother for me. I won't post it on Teach the Facts, though. At that time you'll be able to access that by clicking on my name icon at the start of any post I make.
Hugs and Kisses everyone!
oh, and another thing I wanted to mention above but forgot:
The Republicans played the B.S. game to perfection in 2016 and every election in recent memory that I recall. And maddeningly, Democrats let them get away with lie, after lie, after lie, never challenging, just politely letting it all slide.
How can this Democratic Party keep politely granting the entire stage to Republicans that lie so profusely?!
Surely Republican donations don't so vastly overshadow the $ Democrats raise that Democrats have to let go one blatant GOP lie after another? Do they?
On Saturday, Donald Trump shrewdly flipped the table on Nancy Pelosi in the government shutdown standoff. He has now proposed a grand bargain on immigration: legalization of some 1 million so-called Dreamers -- the foreigners who were brought into the U.S. illegally by their parents -- and an immediate end to the shutdown, if she agrees to expand funding to $5.7 billion for the wall.
It's the kind of checkmate political maneuver that may guarantee his re-election.
It's smart because it now puts the onus on Pelosi to open the government. It also puts the pressure on Pelosi to act on immigration reform. For 25 years, Democrats have preferred to politicize the immigration issue -- and treat Hispanic voters as political hostages -- rather agree to a bipartisan solution to deal with the 10 million illegal immigrants residing in the U.S.
There's no good option for Pelosi now.
If she says yes to this deal, Trump fulfills a critical campaign promise -- build the wall -- and he can take political credit for a humane and popular way to give "Dreamers" the right to stay in this country. He can boast about this in his State of the Union and tell voters that he achieved an immigration solution that none of his predecessors -- not even Barack Obama -- could. He can boast of the wall and freedom from government persecution for the "Dreamers."
He can also score big gains with Latino voters. Many believe that Trump dislikes them and is "racist." This deal -- combined with the best job market for Hispanics in 50 years -- would show immigrants that Trump cares about them and has taken significant actions to improve their lives and their economic opportunities.
If Pelosi says no to the "DACA for the wall" deal, suddenly, she will be the hardheaded one keeping the government shut down. She will have rejected a deal that most Americans will regard as fair and reasonable.
She will also now be seen as the obstacle to immigration reform. My Democratic friends on Capitol Hill tell me privately that the last thing Pelosi wants is for Trump to take credit for solving the immigration crisis and making headway with Hispanics. This is why she rejected a previous proposal by Trump to legalize "Dreamers".
Many Latino voters will see that she is more interested in political power than in taking positive steps to actually help prevent a family member from facing deportation. If Trump can win 10 percent more of the Hispanic vote, no Democrat could defeat him.
Trump might also put on the table an expansion of the H-1B program that allows highly talented engineers, mathematicians, scientists and others with specialized skills to come and stay in the U.S. They create far more jobs than they take.
Trump is to be commended for accepting a political reality: The "Dreamers" are going to get legal status at some point and why not now so Trump can take credit. Republican political pollster Ed Goeas has recently noted that this would combine two popular concepts at once -- the wall and DACA.
The political chaos from the government shutdown isn't working in the president's favor. He needs an exit strategy. DACA for the wall turns the politics of the government shutdown upside down and Trump will come out a big winner -- at Pelosi's expense.
Well done, Mr. President.
"which means he'll get the credit when the Dems cave"
You are such a dreamer!
REALITY:
Democrats stiff Trump's invitation to White House for shutdown talks
Trump walks out of shutdown negotiations after Democrats reject wall
Trump voters now blame him for the government shutdown
TRACK GOP CAVERS HERE: Daily Kos' tracker of House Republican defectors on bills to end shutdown
Hang in there Priya Lynn!
I'm rooting for you!
Everyone can reeeeeeeeealy see who violated its own 5 comment limit.
Hip, hip hooray for Randy!
Stealth weapon against the gay agenda!
Makin' em look craaaazzy!
Hang tough, buddy!
"To ignore evil is to become an accomplice to it" mlk
Good anonymous said "Hang in there Priya Lynn!
I'm rooting for you!".
Thanks so much good anonymous, the support of people like you means so much to me!
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Hip, hip hooray for Priya!
Stealth weapon against the gay agenda!
Makin' em look craaaazzy!
Hang tough, girlfriend!"
Just curious, do you think its my wanting to maximize your happiness as well as my own that makes me look crazy, or is it my history of mental illness that makes you think I look crazy?
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Everyone can reeeeeeeeealy see who violated its own 5 comment limit.".
Funny, I don't remember anyone saying anything about a 5 comment limit - I must be crazy!
And, there it goes! Did you see it? I've gone from being a "he" to a "she", and now I've been demoted to an "it".
You remind me of Northdallas30 - you sure you don't also post under that pseudonym?
Northdallas30 is the most prolific liar on the internet although he may have been surpassed over the past four comment threads by Wyatt/Regina.
He claims to be a gay man,but constantly lies about, demonizes and tries to justify the oppression of LGBT people. When I initially "met" him on the internet I was "she" to him for years. Then one day I tied into him about the gay marriage bans he was defending and using the pathetic excuse that "Gays have the same right to marry a person of the opposite sex as everyone else".
Of course the same defence was used in Loving v Virginia and unanimously rejected by the supreme court. Not to mention that the bill of rights applies to individuals, not groups. That means it is not constitutionally adequate to say "Blacks have the same right to marry a person of their own race as whites", you have to make a constitutionally valid case for why Susan can marry Bill but Ted can't marry Bill. Susan and Ted are assured equal rights by the 14th amendment - bans on gay marriage irrefutably violate the equal protection clause of the constitution.
Anyway, after I slammed the loathsome Northtdallass40 with that gem, I went from being "she", to an "it", just like Wyatt/Regina has done here.
Hmmmmm....
But what the hell do I know anyway? I'm just a high school drop-out. If elites like Wyatt/Regina say "The gays are doing just fine." who am I to argue?
if only they hadn't nominated Hillary...
the nail went in the coffin of the gay agenda last fall
Brett K brought a keg to the wake!
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday let President Donald Trump enforce his policy barring certain transgender people from joining or staying in the military as the justices put on hold lower court rulings blocking the plan on constitutional grounds.
The conservative-majority granted the Trump administration's request to lift injunctions issued by federal judges against the policy.
The lawsuits challenging the policy were filed in 2017 by civil liberties and gay and transgender rights groups on behalf of current transgender military service members, including some deployed overseas with decades of experience in the armed forces, and transgender people aspiring to join the military.
Trump in 2017 announced a plan to ban transgender people from the military, moving to reverse a policy announced a year earlier under Democratic former President Barack Obama allowing them for the first time to serve openly and receive medical care to transition genders.
Trump cited the "tremendous medical costs and disruption" of having transgender military personnel.
Trump in March 2018 announced he would endorse a plan by then-Defense Secretary Jim Mattis that replaced the ban on all transgender people. The revised policy would ban the service of transgender people who seek or have undergone gender transition steps. It also would ban under certain circumstances transgender people who experience gender dysphoria, a condition the American Psychiatric Association defines as clinically significant distress due to "a conflict between a person's physical or assigned gender" and the individual's gender identity.
23250 hours and counting since I gently and reasonably asked Wyatt/Regina "What is your highest priority goal for society?"
They won't answer.
What are they hiding????
Hey everyone! Did you notice that other than the illegitimate christian sharia law Supreme Court Wyatt/Regina have nothing to live for?
That's why they troll forums like this looking for fragile LGBT people to push over the edge.
Wyatt/Regina, do you two really have nothing better to do than to torment fragile LGBT people hoping to drive them to suicide?
It was fake bigoted dickishness! Total coincidence that a bunch of kids sent to protest womens' rights in MAGA hats by a Catholic school just happened to go after Native Americans.
Hey, I don't suppose anyone knows how to get a link to this page to AOC? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink
Hey Zeus!
I think Wyatt/Regina ARE Northdallas30!!!
sometimes, it just seems that conservatives just can't lose
new poll out today shows 75% OF Dems want AOC to run for President
this is even better than Hillary hinting she's going to run again
it's like a dream within a dream
by January 2025, every Supreme Court justice will have been nominated by conservatives
Damn I'm good ;)
Kamala Harris is officially the nail in the coffin for the Democratic Party looking to take back the White House. The three hard-left progressive women filling up the pool of opponents to take on Trump have sunk their party.
During the primary process it will be a race to the left and eventually off a cliff as each Dem is forced to embrace the extremely liberal platforms of the others. Harris essentially is promoting open borders. Her rhetoric comparing ICE to the Ku Klux Klan is just one of many outrageous comments she has made about our immigration enforcement agency.
We already know that Kirsten Gillibrand can be pushed to accept liberal positions. Recall her pro-gun stances that she abandoned when she went from the House to the Senate? Elizabeth Warren was forced to agree with U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s tax plan that would have the wealthiest Americans pay a tax rate of 70 percent.
So a handful of hardcore liberals have set the tone for the primary and what to expect at the party’s convention. The 2016 DNC platform will look moderate compared to 2020 convention. Bernie Sanders pushed Hillary Clinton into embracing his policies she didn’t support. But these three women are all too happy to see if they can outdo each other as the most progressive candidate. And they will lose middle America.
Moments after Harris announced her run, she was asked by an environmental group to support the “Green New Deal” and not take any money from the fossil fuel industry. These activists’ groups responsible for the likes of the Women’s March will also be responsible for demanding that these women latch onto these fringe causes that will detract from the fundamental issues impacting Americans like the economy, gas prices and jobs.
A lot of Democratic voters feel that Hillary Clinton was cheated in 2016 and want to ensure this time a woman ends up at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. However, having a crowd of ultra-prog women in the Democratic race will divide the women’s vote — clearing the way for a moderate male to win the nomination.
Rigging the primary to favor Hillary Clinton didn’t really work out for the Dems. But this time, they may have gone to the other extreme.
Trump must be thrilled to see Harris in the race and he will enjoy trolling her and the others with provocative tweets. Even with the government shutdown and a slowing stock market Trump’s chances of holding onto his job remain very strong with these out-of-touch women who will tank America — if given the chance
I'm such a wreck! I can't believe I held it together long enough to figure it out!
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
I guess that did sound a little maniacal, didn't it, lol
#UmbrellaValues
So, yeah, been a very stressful time for me since a couple of days before christmas.
But it was all well worth it :)
So, what do you think, folks?
Paid Russian trolls working for an American evangelical organization in cahoots with the Russians?
Or Yet again, more closeted anti-gay LGBT republicans in a marriage of convenience?
Please weet your thoughts #UmbrellaValues
You gotta admit folks, its very weird that Wyatt and Regina would have sooo much free time to antagonize harmless LGBT people on the internet, especially if they are also posting under the pseudonym Northdallas30, which I think very likely they are.
Wyatt/Regina/Northdallas30 remind me of Anne Coulter who said something to the effected of "The thought of Richard Dawkins burning forever in hell brings me great joy."
Not even Hitler deserved hell. Let the punishment fit the crime.
I don't think you'd ever hear a liberal making the kind of statement Anne did, this fantasizing with glee about the ultimate in unjust punishments for people who merely disagree with her.
The nastiness of Anne, my brother, Wyatt/Regina/Northdallas30,Timothy Kincaid...conservatives frighten me, the truly do.
And I think a solid 40% of the population is just like that. (in the USA, anyways)
I guess its in human nature, "If I hate you enough I would happily sacrifice my life to take yours."
I think 40% of the population thinks like that.
And that ladies and germs, is why I'm a misanthrope.
Thankyou, thankyou very much. Don't forget to tip your attendant. I'll be here all week.
Think that's why the military and police forces are overwhelmingly populated by conservatives?
Think about it. Why do conservatives not seem to care about Human Caused Global Climate Warming (HCGCW)?
Conservatives aren't really skeptics on this, they're just jerkin' the chain of libtards like me. They know (HCGCW) is real, they just strongly feel that if they hate us enough, they will happily sacrifice future generations to take out future liberals.
Or, at least that's how it appears to me.
I mean, why do you think conservative christians are so into this end of the world thing?
Left Behind series, anyone?
I told Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous/Northdallas30 years ago:
Technology always get's cheaper and more available. Combine that with millions of chrisitians and muslims around the world who want to end it and how long until a well funded group of such people is able to obtain the weapons of mass destruction to do just that?
Fermi's paradox, anyone?
Its a monstrously big universe.
Why do you think the blow-it-all-up presidential candidate appealed so to hard core conservatives and neo-nazis?
Well, they're getting what they asked for. Or at least it sure looks that way to me.
God help us all
Toxic masculinity is real, and even some women are full of toxic masculinity.
What about teaching ethics in school? Obviously it can't be religious ethics.
What about teaching school children about consent - god knows we need that.
Mother nature doesn't care about us. We only have each other.
Lol, I forgot about a post I made around christmas day that I was so proud of at the time "We are part of the universe, the universe does care about us."
See how mixed up Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous/Northdallas30 have gotten me?
Come on somebody, say something. I'm starting to hear the opening to Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb :)
Gee, I hope to god Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous/Northdallas30 are off somewhere thinking...
lotta toxic masculinity coming out of Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous/northdallas30...sad
Well, I'm going back to bed and maybe to have a little cry. See ya later boys and girls.
It's working. Trump is moving moderate Dems to pressure Pelosi to end the shutdown.
A group of centrist House Democrats, sick of political posturing, is pressing Speaker Nancy Pelosi to counter Trump’s immigration proposal with her own potential compromise. The group, led by freshman Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia, is asking the California Democrat to offer Trump his border wall if he signs a bill reopening the federal government.
And in the Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) forged a deal to allow votes on the president's proposal, which provides $5.7 billion for his wall and temporary protections for some undocumented immigrants, as well as a stopgap bill pushed by Democrats to fund the government into mid-February. The president would almost certainly need to endorse it for it to get 60 votes.
Taken together, the moves demonstrate a renewed sense of urgency to get out of the impasse as a second missed paycheck for federal workers looms later this week.
"We're in a funny place. I don't think the president wants to end this shutdown unless he's sure his proposal will be taken seriously" said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.).
Kaine is one of the Democrats arguing that Trump might end the shutdown if Democrats give him a firm commitment on border security in congressional committees, echoing a letter moderate House Democrats were sending Pelosi.
“We understand that this shutdown is our job to fix,” the letter reads, detailing the hit the shutdown has had on federal workers as well as the economy.
Pelosi told Trump this month that she would not fund the border wall even after the government reopened, causing the president to walk out of their meeting.
However, the letter, being circulated among Dem lawmakers from red or swing districts, illustrates the pressure they are under to end the shutdown. Pelosi and Schumer have argued that giving into Trump's desires would be rewarding “bad behavior” or “hostage taking.“ But Democrats are starting to question that strategy.
“Give Trump the money," Rep. Collin Peterson, a centrist Democrat from Minnesota, told a local radio station Tuesday. “I’d give him the whole thing…and put strings on it so you make sure he puts the wall where it needs to be. Why are we fighting over this? We’re going to build that wall anyway, at some time.”
Later this week the House will vote on more bills to reopen the government.
In the draft letter, the centrist Democrats ask Pelosi to allow the appropriate panels to consider Trump’s wall request and ask Pelosi to “guarantee” a vote for the funding package on the House floor.
The lawmakers also say the measure should be open to amendment to allow lawmakers to protect Dreamers and those currently in Temporary Protected Status — ensuring that Democrats would be able to put their stamp on any immigration and border security measure.
“We promised our constituents that we would seek bipartisan solutions, and we feel that this proposal would gain bipartisan support and allow a transparent process to evaluate the true needs of border security and provide much-needed reform to our immigration process,” the letter reads
Northdallass30 - you're back!
Did you two do some thinking or did your Russian masters pull you away and then send you back in after I went back to bed? Its been around five hours between your last two posts - unusual for the owners of the lie machine gun.
7.674875 hours since I gently and reasonably asked Northdallass30 to tell me their highest priority for society.
Why won't thy answer?
What are they hiding?
#UmbrellaValues :)
Just in from the Democratic National Committee:
“Prejudice is not patriotism. Discrimination is not a national security strategy. This ban is nothing more than bigotry codified into law and an insult to all who have worn our nation’s uniform. Not only does it go against our values as Americans, it also makes us less safe.
“Democrats believe diversity is our nation’s strength. We believe everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, no matter who you love or how you identify.
“The brave service members who defend our freedoms should be able live freely. And we will keep fighting for the transgender community and all those who put themselves in harm’s way to protect our country.”
Transgender military members have the courage to serve our country and deserve to do so. We have to fight back to reverse this.
So, Wyatt/Regina/northdallass30, why all the hate for LGBT people - what did we ever do to you?
Silly me, I forgot! Its all those liberal facts and logic that make insecure conservatives feel small so they seek revenge.
And of course LGBT people are merely the symbol for all the changes towards liberalization bigots like Wyatt/Regina/northdallass30 are so angry about.
So, of course as the symbol for all their hatred, bigots must destroy us.
Crap! My TV gave out. Now how am I supposed to eat bon-bons on the couch and watch soaps?
Hey Wyatt/Regina/northdallass30, you should send links from this thread and the previous three to all your friends and family. Afterall, you two did whup me handily on all four threads, didn't you?
Your children will be so proud of you, send them those four links!
And speaking of religious conservative hypocrisy and lies destroying people:
Leading Mormon Gay Conversion Therapist Now Wants To Date Men
A prominent gay conversion therapist and active member of the “ex-gay” scene has announced his intentions to start a new life as a homosexual. David Matheson, author of the book Becoming a Whole Man and creator of several experimental programs which seek to “address incongruous same-sex attractions” revealed he is now seeking to date men.
In a post to a private Facebook group obtained by Truth Wins Out, Journey into Manhood’s director, Rich Wyler, revealed the news:
David…says that living a single, celibate life ‘just isn’t feasible’ for him, so he’s seeking a male partner. He has gone from bisexuality to exclusively gay.
In a statement provided to Truth Wins Out, Matheson confirmed the news while trying to put a positive spin on his abject moral failure:
My time in a straight marriage and in the “ex-gay” world was genuine and sincere and a rich blessing to me. I remember most of it with fondness and gratitude for the joy and growth it caused in me and many others. But I had stopped growing and was starting to die. So I’ve embarked on a new life-giving path that has already started a whole new growth process. I wasn’t faking it all those years. I’m not renouncing my past work or my LDS faith. And I’m not condemning mixed-orientation marriages. I continue to support the rights of individuals to choose how they will respond to their sexual attractions and identity. With that freedom, I am now choosing to pursue life as a gay man.
However, as Truth Wins Out notes, Matheson “was surprisingly unrepentant and failed to apologize for the grave harm he has caused many of his clients.”
And make no mistake – Matheson is guilty of causing a great deal of damage.
For example, Chaim Levin, who was psychologically harmed by attending Journey into Manhood, said:
While I am pleased for Mr. Matheson that he has found a path forward for his life, I can’t help but think of the hundreds if not thousands of people who are still stuck in the closet, a closet that was created in part by Mr. Matheson himself. I hope that Mr. Matheson will do whatever he can to rectify the harm that he’s inflicted on many people in the LGBTQ community, myself included.
Truth Wins Out Executive Director Wayne Besen explains:
If conversion therapy does not work for authors like David Matheson who write books on the discredited practice, it is naïve to expect it to work for those reading such deceptive publications. Conversion therapy employs guilt and shame to browbeat desperate and vulnerable people into renouncing their humanity. This is the latest evidence that conversion therapy is consumer fraud and ought to be outlawed in all 50 states.
Human Rights Campaign reports on the horrors of the discredited gay conversion therapy:
So-called “conversion therapy,” sometimes known as “reparative therapy,” is a range of dangerous and discredited practices that falsely claim to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity or expression. Such practices have been rejected by every mainstream medical and mental health organization for decades, but due to continuing discrimination and societal bias against LGBTQ people, some practitioners continue to conduct conversion therapy. Minors are especially vulnerable, and conversion therapy can lead to depression, anxiety, drug use, homelessness, and suicide.
Previously President Barack Obama defended LGBT youth by supporting a ban on conversion therapy. The official statement from the White House read in part:
This Administration supports efforts to ban the use of conversion therapy for minors… overwhelming scientific evidence demonstrates that conversion therapy, especially when it is practiced on young people, is neither medically nor ethically appropriate and can cause substantial harm.
Bottom line: Notorious Mormon gay conversion therapist David Matheson now says he just wants to date men, but refuses to apologize for damaging LGBT people.
Awwww...my sweety bought me a 50" 4k TV!
But I have to wait 2 or 3 days for it to be shipped :(
Its wonderful to have a king who allows you to live in the lap of luxury ;)
Hey Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous, were you two also the ones who copied my avatar from disqus and used for a Corvette Forum avatar to stalk me and angrily post "Priya is a MAN who likes to wear Women's clothes."?
Sounds like something you two would do. Kinda backfired on ya, eh?
wow, someone posted an on-topic comment above
it's worth a shot
"Human Rights Campaign"
a political advocacy organization
"reports on the horrors of the discredited gay conversion therapy:"
horrors?
what horrors?
"So-called “conversion therapy,” sometimes known as “reparative therapy,” is a range of dangerous and discredited practices"
sounds like a generalization
"that falsely claim to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity or expression."
sounds like a generalization
"Such practices have been rejected by every mainstream medical and mental health organization for decades,"
they were pressured to do so by political advocacy groups years ago
"but due to continuing discrimination and societal bias against LGBTQ people, some practitioners continue to conduct conversion therapy."
if someone thinks they want to change their harmful inclinations, that's up to them
is that bias?
"Minors are especially vulnerable, and conversion therapy can lead to depression, anxiety, drug use, homelessness, and suicide."
you can say the same about any type of counseling
efforts to change can be stressful
"Previously President Barack Obama defended LGBT youth by supporting a ban on conversion therapy. The official statement from the White House read in part:
This Administration supports efforts to ban the use of conversion therapy for minors… overwhelming scientific evidence demonstrates that conversion therapy, especially when it is practiced on young people, is neither medically nor ethically appropriate and can cause substantial harm."
no it isn't overwhelming, Barack
btw, where did you get your expertise to tell whether evidence is "overwhelming"?
bottom line: conversion therapy can take many forms, some of which are beneficial
abuses are already illegal, there is no reason to make special laws to protect homosexuality
Maryland's law will eventually wind up at the Supreme Court where it will be ruled unconstitutional
Poll: 57% of Americans say they will definitely not vote for Tяump in 2020.
Just like I said, I don't know if a Democrat will win in 2020, but the popular vote losing pussy grabber definitely will not.
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "wow, someone posted an on-topic comment above".
Oh, do you not mean me?
Shows you how either well paid or deranged Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous are - what could be more on topic than them trying to destroy my mental health and the mental health of my American LGBT friends solely because they're offended LGBT people are being given the same rights they have.
I will be sending links to the previous three threads to everyone I can in the not too distant future. The world needs to see the abject evil purpetrated on people like me by bigots like you and the "Family" "Research" Council and Focus on the "Family".
Yeap, you all are one big group of sick puppies. I'm serious, these people would happily destroy the world to spite future liberals.
Good anonymous said "Human Rights Campaign"
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "a political advocacy organization"
Why do you oppose people advocating politically for fair treatment for LGBT people? Anti-freedom perhaps? You want to dictate to LGBT people, perhaps? The first amendment does not grant legal superiority to religious beliefs over long and deeply held, sincere secular beliefs about morality
Good anonymous said"reports on the horrors of the discredited gay conversion therapy:"
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "horrors? what horrors?".
You see folks, Wyatt/Regina don't consider it horrible when gays kill themselves because people like Wyatt/Regina and the "Family" "Research" Council teach them they will be tortured eternally for attractions they didn't choose and can't change. They kill themselves because its deeply religious LGBT people who are conned into these "exgay" "therapy" scams and evangelical christianity teaches that if you aren't successful in changing your sexual orientation, its because YOU are a failure to god, not because god wouldn't help you. God knows how many harmless gay men have killed themselves due to the torment of contradictory and confusing religious dogma.
Good anonymous said "So-called “conversion therapy,” sometimes known as “reparative therapy,” is a range of dangerous and discredited practices"
Wyatt/Regina said "sounds like a generalization".
Just like your response sounds like a generalization. This is what they teach you at conservative christian/russian how to frustrate and bedevil liberals school? Pretty lame if you ask me.
Good anonymous said "Such practices have been rejected by every mainstream medical and mental health organization for decades,"
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "they were pressured to do so by political advocacy groups years ago".
Yeah, like 73 (?) or so. So, given that American Psychiatry Association was, as you assert, "wrong" to take gayness out of the DSM, in the 46 years since, why hasn't the anti-marriage side been able to compile any evidence or make any sort of significant case for putting gayness back in the DSM? Should be a slam dunk if it was only taken out of there due to unfair pressure from a politcal advocacy groups (and once again, what is wrong with using the political process to advocate for fairness for gays?)
Good Anonymous said "but due to continuing discrimination and societal bias against LGBTQ people, some practitioners continue to conduct conversion therapy."
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "if someone thinks they want to change their harmful inclinations, that's up to them is that bias?"
I agree with you 100%. If someone wants to remove their harmful inclinations, that's up to them. But that's not the issue here. The issue is that every major medical and mental health organization agrees that gayness is normal, natural, and healthy variant of human sexuality for a minority of the population. Those who positively accept their sexual orientation are happier and better adjusted than those who do not. JFC, you've a-holes have seen that here over the decades - when you succeed in tormenting me, my mental health deteriorates. When I'm with my husband I recover and feel happy. You hateful people want to destroy what is keeping me alive - that's either deranged animus, or a well-paid occupation.
Good anonymous said "Minors are especially vulnerable, and conversion therapy can lead to depression, anxiety, drug use, homelessness, and suicide."
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "you can say the same about any type of counseling"
An absurd, deranged and utterly baseless assertion.
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "efforts to change can be stressful".
Yes, I agree with you 100% there. But that's not the issue, the issue is that people are neelessly having their life happiness greatly diminished, if not ended, by these hopeless pursuits to please a bronze age war god.
Good anonymous said "Previously President Barack Obama defended LGBT youth by supporting a ban on conversion therapy. The official statement from the White House read in part:
This Administration supports efforts to ban the use of conversion therapy for minors… overwhelming scientific evidence demonstrates that conversion therapy, especially when it is practiced on young people, is neither medically nor ethically appropriate and can cause substantial harm."
Wyatt/Regina trolled "no it isn't overwhelming, Barack".
Oh, really??? and you have some research to the contrary that hasn't been utterly destroyed as the sham all anti-gay "research" is by the likes of Timothy Kincaid?
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "btw, where did you get your expertise to tell whether evidence is "overwhelming"?".
I've been posting that here for two decades as you know Wyatt/Regina. I dutifully provide it too you and you make some "joke" about sticking the heads of LGBT school children in toilets. We're not going through sincere effort to give you a laugh over how much time of ours you wasted.
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "bottom line: conversion therapy can take many forms, some of which are beneficial".
No evidence to support that claim whatsoever. And I've presented mountains of evidence to Wyatt/Regina here over the years to show them the massive evidence there is no benefit to "conversion" "therapy". Anyone can check back in the older threads and see that repeatedly. The only thing "conversion" "therapy" does is make unfortunate religious gays feel like they've failed their god when they can't change and the fear of hell and depression makes them wish they were dead.
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "abuses are already illegal, there is no reason to make special laws to protect homosexuality".
Actually, bigots like you have carved out special rights for christians to be exempt from the laws the rest of Americans have to follow. The abuses that go on during religious "counselling" are attacks on harmless people who deserve better. LGBT people are disproportionately targeted for assault and murder because bigots like Wyatt/Regina demonize us for either money or their own deviant pleasure. Society needs to say "NO" to targetting innocent groups for harmless characteristics. This is the heart and soul of hate crimes laws. These laws are not "special protections for gays", heterosexuals get the same protection under hate crime laws.
The only group in American society getting "special laws" to protect them are the already obscenely priviliged white evangelican christians who have perverted the intentions of The Founders and twisted The First Amendment into a weapon the wield with ferocity to beat innocent LGBT people like me into submission, desperation, and soul crushing despair. This is what the well paid or perverted Wyatt/Regina wish on their fellow Americans who are harming no one.
7,600,348,788 hours since I gently and reasonably asked Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous "What is your highest priority goal for society?" and no response.
A simple question. No one with good intent would be afraid to answer it.
Go back to Russian/evangelical "own the libtards" school Wyatt/Regina - your tired old tricks don't cut it, you need to learn something new, old dog.
I may be borderline crazy, but I'm not stupid like Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous.
Typical Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous, lies, distortions and wild baseless assertions.
Hee hee hee!
Go back to harrasement school losers!
Hey Wyatt/Regina, is there any love in your marriage? Or is it just blind hatred of liberals and other innocent people that brings you two together?
Notice how the Tяump Shutdown® is devastating federal workers? You know who's really hard hit?
FBI employees. If they miss a mortgage payment or get evicted or have financial problems it destroys their security clearance. It causes chaos in the FBI and paralizes investigations.
That's no coincidence. Believe it people, this shutdown is Tяump's last desperate attempt to save himself and his corrupt over-leveraged empire. He is well aware that his lifetime crooked dealings in league with Russian mob is going to blow up in his face. That's why he hired Whitaker while ignoring the normal line of succession - he told Trump he'd "take care of" the Mueller Investigation. Same thing with the man Trump's trying to permanently appoint to the position - he too said he'd kneecap the Mueller investigation.
Trump's making his move now, it started with the unconstitutional appointment of acting attorney general Whitaker and now he's terrifed of ending the shutdown because then it all closes in on him.
He's trapped and desperate and has no idea how to get out of the mess he's created. This is going to get ugly.
"that sounds like a generalization"
Hey Zeus! That's some stupid stuff. That's whatchya call pseudo-intellectual trolling.
Really Wyatt/Regina, is that the best you've got?
Silly me, of course it is!
Hey Wyatt/Regina, did you try to manipulate and control your children with that stupid "that sounds like a generalization crap?
There's your evangelical christian family "values"
Question for you, Wyatt/Regina.
Now that I've told you all about my life with my husband, do you think we are better off together, or apart?
20 gd years I've poored my heart out on this board and talked about my life. No one on the internet is more familiar with me and my life than Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous.
Now, knowing all you do about Ward and I, tell all the readers here quite honestly - how would we be better off without each other?
You "joke" about sticking lgbt schoolchildren's heads in toilets that are sometimes filled with urine and feces. And you admit you do that to torment me and make me unhappy so nothing could be much more on topic in this post Jim put up than how you think Ward and I would be better off without each other?
Enguiring minds want to know :)
I mean, you do consider us two gay men, don't you?
You can tell Wyatt/Regina are badly losing the debate in this and the previous three comment threads by how they are repeatedly complaining about me being "off-topic".
Prior to 4 threads ago they certainly were never shy about going off-topic, talking about things like deducting a wine distillery from his income tax, or scuba diving, or sand in the ass toes on the water, or however the hell it went (on and on)
So, again, height of hypocrisy for them to be scolding me about being "off-topic", particularly when the topic is the failure of "exgay" "therapy" and they always like to try and coyly slip in something to say "we consider you two gay men".
So, that being the case then, spit it out you two - perhaps other than my husband, no one in the world knows me better than you two. You rail about how deviant, mentally ill, society destroying gays are and how they'd all be so much better off if they'd have they became "exgay", so tell everyone reading here:
How would I be better off apart from my husband????
What are your words of wisdom oh grand intellectual Pubahs?
So, anyway, this is why I want to get links to the three previous comment threads to as many opinion makers as I can.
You can see the abject hatred of Wyatt/Regina for LGBT people. I figure between them and the Northdallas30 pseudonym they must put in at least 10 hours a day, everyday of trolling LGBT people and trying to push them over the edge.
Easy to see why they'd do this if they were getting paid but not if they aren't. Obviously, if they are this driven to assault harmless people without being paid for it, it is they who are the "mental cases".
I mean, what kind of sick puppies would invest as much of their time into trolling lgbt people as they have done if they weren't getting paid?
Here's the links to the three previous comment threads again - they are a thing of beauty, eh?
Subject: How to win against an evangelical christian troll :)
http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2018/12/flynn-free-trump-continues-to-march-off.html#comments
http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2018/12/drowning-accomplished.html#comments
http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2019/01/moco-hunkers-down.html#comments
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"To make the best society we can have, society's highest priority has to be maximizing happiness for all in an equal and fair way." - this is more important than all religions combined."
How about you scumbags at the "Family" "Research" Council or Focus on the "Family"? YOU got anything to say about this?
You go on every kind of media talking about me as a "man in a dress", a "deeply disturbed person who needs psychological counseling, not mutilating surgery" and all that other anti-trans stuff you demand of Tяump.
You people tell me how you think my life would improve by me leaving my husband and assuming a male gender identity.
Hard eh? lol
I've made my case in detail about why my life is better as a woman with my husband.
Now how about you a-holes tell me how you would improve my life.
Go ahead, I dare you.
Folks, think about it. Wyatt/Regina say they've been cranking me up for 20 years for their own pleasure. Are they being paid or are they frickin psychotic? My fear is that 40% of the population thinks just like them.
My brother was just like these two. Did everything he possibly could to crank me up as high as he could. Then when he died I told my family "Good! He got what he deserved, I'm glad he's dead". My last sister tells me "I'm sorry you feel that way." I said "Are you sorry he tried to torment me and pump himself up at my expense?" She says "Oh, well he teases everyone, your niece hates him too (paraphrashing w/r you a/hs)
Yeah, that's you conservatives, torture someone for a lifetime because ...I don't even fricken know why.
I meant to include in the previous comment "That's not teasing, that's malice".
I'm sick and tired of you gd conservatives.
Well, I got up again to post a burning thought and now its gone, lol!
I figured, what they hey, got the computer fired up anyway.
Night night everyone :)
I remember what it was now:
Toxic Masculinity.
You people whine and bitch about men being misportrayed, but jfc, look at all this toxic masculinity here and rife throughout the world - 40% of the world's population is a problem.
We need ethics taught in schools and clearly that cannot be religious "ethics".
On what insane planet is it a problem to teach consent to school children???
What the hell is wrong with you people anyway?
I think I hate conservatives as much as they hate me, but I can't imagine ever hating them enough to be willing to sacrifice my life to take theirs.
Human Caused Global Climate Warming.
Stupid frickin Wyatt/Regina, they're always "Oh, don't protect transwomen from being targeted, instead protect children and old people who aren't being targeted.
And then you want to teach children consent so they won't be victims and religious conservatives like Wyatt/Regina suddenly don't want to protect the children from toxic masculinity
I mean, the hypocrisy of Wyatt/Regina is simply epic.
The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday said it will hear a 2nd Amendment case that will give the new court a chance to limit restrictions on gun owners.
The case concerns a New York City ban on transporting handguns except directly to and from shooting ranges, and requires the weapon to be unloaded and stored in a locked container.
Three handgun owners and the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association challenged the ban, arguing that it unconstitutionally interfered with their right to gun ownership, as well as their right to travel.
the media has been regularly posting fake news since the day Trump announced he was running
but the last few days have been particularly revealing
last Friday, some media outlets were reported that Muller had proof that Trump told his lawyer to lie to Congress
after listening to Dems vow to impeach and celebs and pundits go on a frenzy, even Mueller had had enough and issued a rare statement about his investigation: the news stories were completely false
this was followed by deceptively edited tape from the March for Life:
What happened to the Covington Catholic High School students on a school trip to DC last Friday should alarm every American.
Some teenagers at the March for Life Rally, who dared to use their constitutionally protected right to free speech by wearing “MAGA” hats, quickly became targets of a rabid mob of anti-Trump forces eager to perpetuate the false political narrative that white conservative men who support the president are racists and bullies who harass minorities.
A deceptively edited video of a kerfuffle between a few of the teens and a Native American man quickly went viral, to which the New York Times and scores of other Trump-hating media outlets depicted a gross mischaracterization of what happened fueling a hate filled frenzy on social media and beyond, subjecting the students to an onslaught of verbal assaults and even death threats — in addition to the possibility of expulsion from their high school.
Here’s the kicker: it was all a lie, enthusiastically disseminated by the media, Democrat lawmakers and other Trump-haters who didn’t bother to research the facts, watch the full video or hear all sides before condemning these poor kids. Now after a massive smear campaign putting the students in harm’s way, it turns out the teens were the ones harassed — not the other way around.
It also turns out the Native American man approached the boys, instigating a confrontation, not the opposite. Some in media have since apologized to the teens while other so-called “journalists” cowardly deleted their hurtful tweets without expressing an ounce of remorse for damaging the students reputations and putting them in harm’s way.
Make no mistake. Not only is free speech under attack in America today — thanks to unhinged sore losers who still can’t get over the outcome of the 2016 presidential election — they’re race baiting and dismantling our democracy by not respecting that America is a multi-party political system where citizens have a right to support whichever candidate they like without fear or backlash.
Sadly, you can't trust the media any more. They have an agenda.
Senate Republicans have released a $354.5 billion fiscal 2019 spending package that includes $5.7 billion for border wall construction as well as temporary relief for enrollees in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and immigrants receiving Temporary Protected Status.
The 1,301-page draft bill was released Monday night, and it includes parts outlined by President Donald Trump in his Saturday speech. It is expected to receive a vote in the Senate this week.
Good Morning everyone!
And a special shoutout to my JMG friends reading here.
I see Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous, despite condemning gays and a making it clear they consider me and my husband a gay couple that would be better off apart, as they believe no one should be in a same sex relationship, don't want to answer the obvious question:
Hey Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous:
Nothing is more on topic in this thread then the relationship I have with my husband you say is "perverted", "deviant", and "mental cases". So please tell all good readers here:
How would my life be better if I left my husband as you advise?
34 million hours since I asked that gentle and reasonable question and Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous has yet to give me a single example.
Booooooo!
Folks, please do what you can to send the links to the previous three threads to anyone you know with an interest in LGBT issues and morality - LGBT people have the moral high ground with evangelican conservatives, let's make them fight on the terms most advantageous to us!
Meanwhile, Here's an example what happens when we as a society let toxic religious masculinity have free rein.
Don't let anti-freedom bigots like Wyatt/Regina use the First Amendment as a weapon against you!
Oh, and when you're sendin the links to those three debate threads to your loved ones, be honest with them, they're almost 600 comments total but they can skip any technical posts on Human Caused Global Climate Warming by Wyatt/Regina as they are just tedious barely relevant attempts to confuse and bore you. Ask them, it they don't have the time to go through all 600 comments, to please forward the links onto anyone they know with an interest in LGBT issues and morality.
Thanks for your time :)
Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "white conservative men who support the president are racists and bullies who harass minorities.".
Thank god they finally admitted it! Maybe they DO have a conscience after all!
Praise the Lord, everyone!
Wow, I didn't think I'd see the day Wyatt/Regina would admit that!
Thanks so much, Wyatt/Regina, maybe we can be friends some day :)
Come on, wyatt/Regina, you two hypocritically excoriate me for allegedly posting off-topic - post something on topic for a change and remember nothing is more on-topic in this thread than you yanking the chain of a transwoman with mental health issues for your own pleasure - for 20 years.
.033 hours since I gently and reasonably asked Wyatt/Regina how my life would be better if I followed their advice and ended my loving relationship with my wonderful husband and yet not a single example.
What hateful agenda are they hiding?
Seriously, are Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous paid to abuse harmless LGBT people this way, or are they actually that mentally disturbed?
[homer]Stupid, evil Hardimans[/homer]
What do you think, folks?
Should I toy with the hypocrites some more or have I exposed their evil ways enough?
Come on Wyatt/Regina, bigots like you and Tony Perkins and James Dobson constantly whine that you're "values" are being pushed out of "the public square". Here's your public square, now speak!
How would my life be better if I took your strident advice over the last 20 years and left my loving husband?????
Enquiring minds want to know!
Evangelical christian conservatives are wusses.
Give them a public square to promote their religious "values" and they clam up. They file all these lawsuits over being "forced" to serve harmless LGBT people and now you give them the platform they're screaming for and they scurry from the light like so many cockroaches.
God, I hope its not 40% of the gd population who thinks like Wyatt/Regina and Tony Perkins. If it is, we're doomed.
And by "we", I mean everyone
I set up the soapbox for you Wyatt/Regina Hardiman, now kindly step up on it and speak loudly so everyone can hear you:
How will my life be better if I take your strident advice over the last 20 years and end my relationship with my loving husband????
God I hate you effen conservatives, even if its all 40% of the population.
Pyschology from cave man days, think about it people.
and once again folks, I'm just jokin
I'm just teasing you
Please help everyone. The writing comes easy to me, I can easily handle that. Its disseminating this all too typical example of evangelical christian conservative hate driven abuse towards harmless LGBT people they cause the mental health issues to in the first place.
Its the same tactic as the schoolyard bully. I punch you in the nose and take your lunch money and that you're lying on the ground crying is proof that you're defective.
Don't let them get away with this!
Haven't you a-holes taken enough years off my life? If I had a heart attack and dropped dead right here would you go around telling the world "That's what happens when deeply disturbed men who think they're women don't get the religious counselling they need."?
I'm deeply disturbed all right
jus' jokin :)
Give it a gd rest already. Or is the money too good?
If I were Jim, and I'm not and he's a much smarter person than I am, I'd shut down this vigilance blog as the absolute epitome of the hypocrisy and animus of the evangelical christian right towards harmless LGBT people they caused the mental health issues of anyway.
And then I'd announce I'm a candidate for the Democratic nominee for Presidetn.
Jim Kennedy/? 2020 everyone!
Toxic masculinity is overwhelming humanity and the evangelical christian right and republicans are suppressing democracy in a country that increasingly rejectes their message of hate and intolerance. Innocent LGBT people have the moral high ground here, let's fight on the terms that greatly favour us - morality.
Good people don't go around saying "Gayness is a sin like any other, don't worry, I'm a sinner too (but turn or burn, baby!)"
#JeffSessions #weed #smileface
http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2019/01/lawsuit-filed-to-allow-conversion.html#comments
#UmbrellaValues
#toxicmasculinity
please tell your stories
No religious person deserves deference for stating their damaging beliefs.
Religious "values" must not be allowed to trump in law the long and deeply held sincere secular beliefs about morality of atheists.
The First Amendment does not grant superiority in the law to Evangelican christians above all other Americans.
Don't let the Evangelical christians pervert the Founders Intent and use The First Amendment as a weapon against you.
We are on the moral high ground here. Fight on the terms that are most advantagous to us.
Please
They broke the implied social contract first. They have to return to fighting fair before we do, otherwise we're just suckers for their abuse. When they return to fighting fair, so will we.
#takeitback
I can't thinkof anything more wrong than the foundational ideas of christianity.
But that's just me.
Like I've said countless times here over the years - "Evangelical American christians have bastardized the meaning of Christianity."
Christianity means many things to many people but the hateful unjust actions of Evangelical Americans have redefined the word to mean "We hate gays".
#UmbrellaValues #takeitback
Wheewee, do I have a pounding headache!
I used to get them constantly, typically lasting 2 to 3 days, but sometimes as long as 10. Then I'd be fine for maybe 3 days to a week and then the cycle begins again. This has been going on since I started the very difficult process of transitioning in small town christian conservative Saskatchewan - let me tell you, that was fun and I experienced no discrimination whatsoever!
But seriously folks:
I was amazed the headaches almost completely disappeared when weed was legalized in Canada Oct 17th. Thank God For Canada!
So,a little surprised to find the headaches returning a little while after christmas when I decided I'd had enough of Wyatt/Regina/northdallas30's shite and thought "Hey, I'm not going to live forever and frankly I think my mind is beginning to gradually slip so maybe I should get all my great ideas down on the internet so they are never forgotten!)
Anyway, now where was I going with this?...Oh, right, so, wait, maybe that's not quite right. Let me think again. No,no, it was after I decided I should disseminate the links to the 3 previous threads to the world the headaches started again.
Do you think the pointless and destructive trolling of bigots like Wyatt/Regina and Tony Perkins is causing the headahces?
I'm just trying to make the world a better place, sincerely. Why do you want to hurt me and destroy earth?
Hey, here's a funny thoutht:
Imagine if someone tweeted a link to this page to Anne Coulter.
Hahhaahahahahahaha!
#UmbrellaValues #weed
Anne Coulter - talk about toxic masculinity - wheewww, she takes the cake!
If you support gay marriage bans, then you are not a good person. Its as simple as that.
Ethical people don't refuse to serve anyone with a harmless characteristic like skin colour or gayness, and maybe buddhism, I'm sure about that one.
123 hours since I gently and reasonably asked Wyatt/Regina "What is your highest priority goal for society?". Good people aren't afraid to answer that.
Eff the christian evangelical right's anti-fairness agenda.
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