Friday, August 04, 2006

Pat Robertson Changes his Mind on Global Warming

This is going to be fascinating to watch. The global warming "controversy" is purely political, with gazillion-dollar corporations hoping they won't have to spend money cleaning up their pollution generators. These corporations, through their spokespersons in the Bush administration, have created a message that there is some debate in the scientific community about whether the earth is actually getting warmer, and if it is, whether humans are responsible for it.

This fake-controversy is salted with some attitudes from the religious right suggesting that God gave us the earth to enjoy, and that we can use its resources however we like. I'd guess this comes from Genesis 1:26:
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

(With its wonderful and confusing interpretation in the plural.)

So there we have "dominion" over it all. I had always taken that in a benign sense to mean that we were obligated to take care of it. But some people interpret this to mean that we can just do whatever we want with the earth and all of nature, like a king selecting a desirable virgin from some subject's household. That kind of dominion.

Anyway, the weather's been hot, and that has changed Pat Robertson's mind, aparently. Think Progress transcribed some of the 700 Club for us:
Yesterday on the 700 Club, evangelical Pat Robertson declared himself “a convert” on global warming. Robertson said that he has “not been one who believed in global warming in the past.” But now, Robertson said, he believes “it is getting hotter and the ice caps are melting and there is a build up of carbon dioxide in the air.” Robertson implored, “we really need to do something on fossil fuels.” Watch it:

Robertson talked briefly about global warming again on today’s edition of the 700 club. Alternet has the video.

Today’s transcript:
They are defending the society. But I tell you stay in doors ladies and gentleman. Stay cool. Get fans or whatever. And the poor, they need emergency fans and ice to cool down — the number of people dead. I have not been one who believed in the global warming. But I tell you, they are making a convert out of me as these blistering summers. They have broken heat records in a number of cities already this year and broken all-time records and it is getting hotter and the ice caps are melting and there is a build up of carbon dioxide in the air. We really need to address the burning of fossil fuels. If we are contributing to the destruction of the planet we need to do manage about it.


AlterNet notes:
Conservative Christian news outlet Agape Press, which often runs anti-global warming reports, has already picked up the statement and run it uncritically.

Yes, here's how AgapePress ran it:
..Televangelist Pat Robertson says he hasn't been a believer in global warming in the past, but this summer's record-breaking heat is, quote: "making a convert out of me." On his 700 Club broadcast, Robertson said, "It is getting hotter, and the icecaps are melting and there is a buildup of carbon dioxide in the air." Switching sides on an issue that divides evangelical Christians, Robertson said, "We really need to address the burning of fossil fuels." The religious broadcaster told viewers, "If we are contributing to the destruction of this planet, we need to do something about it." [AP]

I wonder what is going on here, really.

9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim, I can't and won't comment on Pat Robertson's changed perspective, but I know that many people of faith are revisiting what it means to have "dominion" and they are choosing conscious environmentalism. My church is working on a "green sanctuary" program sponsored by our denomination; WAMU FM's Metro Connection today ran a story about a coalition of Maryland churches that have covenanted to recycle, renew, and conserve.

http://www.wamu.org/programs/mc/06/08/04.php#11715

"What Would Jesus Drive?" is an evangelical environmental group that has been around now for several years.

http://whatwouldjesusdrive.org/

August 04, 2006 3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops! Still waiting for all them hurricanes predicted by TTF this year:

"Hurricane Predictions Scaled Back
Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Chris Runs Out Of Steam In Caribbean

DENVER, Aug. 3, 2006

(AP) Hurricane researchers at Colorado State University said Thursday that this year's hurricane season won't be as bad as earlier predicted and said a monster storm like Katrina is unlikely.

"The probability of another Katrina-like event is very small," said Phillip Klotzbach, lead forecaster for the hurricane research team.

Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Chris rapidly ran out of steam Thursday morning as it pushed across the eastern Caribbean. Forecasters said it could weaken by evening to a tropical depression.

Researcher William Gray said Atlantic Ocean surface temperatures are not quite as warm and surface pressure is not quite as low, both factors in the decision to revise the forecast."

August 05, 2006 6:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Oops! Still waiting for all them hurricanes predicted by TTF this year."

Oops! In case you didn't notice, TTF is not in the weatherforecasting business.

But since you posted this article, I have to ask do you think hurricanes are the only indication of global warming? Did you happen to notice the recent US weather which has included floods and evacuations in southern Texas, drought in the northern plains, and killer heatwave that crossed the country? Or perhaps you noticed the severe and/or record-breaking weather in the month of July 2006 in Romania, Turkey, India, China, the Phillipines, Taiwan, the Korean Peninsula, Vietnam, the Netherlands, Great Britain, Spain, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, Poland, Latvia, Denmark, and the Czeck Republic.

Did you notice the hint in the article you posted about how the science of weatherforecasting works? When new contradictory data are collected, a revision is made in the forecast. This is similar to the way the theory of evolution continues to be refined since it was first postulated while the numerous creation myths remain static.

August 06, 2006 7:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sky is falling just not how they predict it will.
I got one, northern hemisphere to cool in September.
Southern hemisphere to warm in September.
Associated press blames Bush though says it is non-partisan.

August 07, 2006 7:41 PM  
Blogger andrea said...

Pat Robertson- just the thought of him agreeing with me on global warming is scary. Maybe he thinks the Devil is heating things up?

August 08, 2006 11:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14128827/

Extreme conditions create rare Antarctic clouds
Aug. 1, 2006

SYDNEY - Rare, mother-of-pearl coloured clouds caused by extreme weather conditions above Antarctica are a possible indication of global warming, Australian scientists said on Tuesday.

Known as nacreous clouds, the spectacular formations showing delicate wisps of colours were photographed in the sky over an Australian meteorological base at Mawson Station on July 25.

Australian Antarctic Division scientist Andrew Klekociuk said such clouds are occasionally produced by air rising over Arctic and Antarctic mountains in high polar latitudes during winter....

Klekociuk said the rarely seen clouds, also known as polar stratospheric clouds, were more than just a curiosity.

"They reveal extreme conditions in the atmosphere, and promote chemical changes that lead to destruction of vital stratospheric ozone," he said.

Klekociuk said temperatures in the stratosphere, between 8 and 50 km (5-31 miles) above Earth, would be expected to drop as global warming increases. Data collected over the past 25 years had reflected this, he told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio.

"Over that time there has been a small decrease in temperature and that change is actually occurring faster than the warming at the surface of the Earth," he said.

August 08, 2006 6:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

now it all makes sence it is getting colder in some places and warmer in other places now it all makes sence. please keep us posted every hundred years

August 08, 2006 7:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

andrear said...
nothing again. but lets continue to track her.

August 08, 2006 7:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Energy Independence begins with Energy efficiency

Updated
MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY – THE ENERGY EVOLUTION –R15
By Jay Draiman, Energy Consultant
In order to insure energy and economic independence as well as better economic growth without being blackmailed by foreign countries, our country, the United States of America’s Utilization of Energy Sources must change.
"Energy drives our entire economy.” We must protect it. "Let's face it, without energy the whole economy and economic society we have set up would come to a halt. So you want to have control over such an important resource that you need for your society and your economy." The American way of life is not negotiable.
Our continued dependence on fossil fuels could and will lead to catastrophic consequences.

The federal, state and local government should implement a mandatory renewable energy installation program for residential and commercial property on new construction and remodeling projects, replacement of appliances, motors, HVAC with the use of energy efficient materials-products, mechanical systems, appliances, lighting, insulation, retrofits etc. The source of energy must be by renewable energy such as Solar-Photovoltaic, Geothermal, Wind, Biofuels, Ocean-Tidal, Hydrogen-Fuel Cell etc. This includes the utilizing of water from lakes, rivers and oceans to circulate in cooling towers to produce air conditioning and the utilization of proper landscaping to reduce energy consumption. (Sales tax on renewable energy products and energy efficiency should be reduced or eliminated)

The implementation of mandatory renewable energy could be done on a gradual scale over the next 10 years. At the end of the 10 year period all construction and energy use in the structures throughout the United States must be 100% powered by renewable energy. (This can be done by amending building code)

In addition, the governments must impose laws, rules and regulations whereby the utility companies must comply with a fair “NET METERING” (the buying of excess generation from the consumer at market price), including the promotion of research and production of “renewable energy technology” with various long term incentives and grants. The various foundations in existence should be used to contribute to this cause.

A mandatory time table should also be established for the automobile industry to gradually produce an automobile powered by renewable energy. The American automobile industry is surely capable of accomplishing this task. As an inducement to buy hybrid automobiles (sales tax should be reduced or eliminated on American manufactured automobiles).

This is a way to expedite our energy independence and economic growth. (This will also create a substantial amount of new jobs). It will take maximum effort and a relentless pursuit of the private, commercial and industrial government sectors’ commitment to renewable energy – energy generation (wind, solar, hydro, biofuels, geothermal, energy storage (fuel cells, advance batteries), energy infrastructure (management, transmission) and energy efficiency (lighting, sensors, automation, conservation) (rainwater harvesting, water conservation) (energy and natural resources conservation) in order to achieve our energy independence.

"To succeed, you have to believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a reality."

Jay Draiman, Energy Consultant
Northridge, CA. 91325
May 31, 2007

P.S. I have a very deep belief in America's capabilities. Within the next 10 years we can accomplish our energy independence, if we as a nation truly set our goals to accomplish this.

I happen to believe that we can do it. In another crisis--the one in 1942--President Franklin D. Roosevelt said this country would build 60,000 [50,000] military aircraft. By 1943, production in that program had reached 125,000 aircraft annually. They did it then. We can do it now.

"the way we produce and use energy must fundamentally change."
The American people resilience and determination to retain the way of life is unconquerable and we as a nation will succeed in this endeavor of Energy Independence.

The Oil Companies should be required to invest a substantial percentage of their profit in renewable energy R&D and implementation. Those who do not will be panelized by the public at large by boy cutting their products.

Solar energy is the source of all energy on the earth (excepting volcanic geothermal). Wind, wave and fossil fuels all get their energy from the sun. Fossil fuels are only a battery which will eventually run out. The sooner we can exploit all forms of Solar energy (cost effectively or not against dubiously cheap FFs) the better off we will all be. If the battery runs out first, the survivors will all be living like in the 18th century again.

Every new home built should come with a solar package. A 1.5 kW per bedroom is a good rule of thumb. The formula 1.5 X's 5 hrs per day X's 30 days will produce about 225 kWh per bedroom monthly. This peak production period will offset 17 to 2

4 cents per kWh with a potential of $160 per month or about $60,000 over the 30-year mortgage period for a three-bedroom home. It is economically feasible at the current energy price and the interest portion of the loan is deductible. Why not?

Title 24 has been mandated forcing developers to build energy efficient homes. Their bull-headedness put them in that position and now they see that Title 24 works with little added cost. Solar should also be mandated and if the developer designs a home that solar is impossible to do then they should pay an equivalent mitigation fee allowing others to put solar on in place of their negligence. (Installation should be paid “performance based”).

Installation of renewable energy and its performance should be paid to the installer and manufacturer based on "performance based" (that means they are held accountable for the performance of the product - that includes the automobile industry). This will gain the trust and confidence of the end-user to proceed with such a project; it will also prove to the public that it is a viable avenue of energy conservation.

Installing a renewable energy system on your home or business increases the value of the property and provides a marketing advantage. It also decreases our trade deficit.

Nations of the world should unite and join together in a cohesive effort to develop and implement MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY for the sake of humankind and future generations.

The head of the U.S. government's renewable energy lab said Monday (Feb. 5) that the federal government is doing "embarrassingly few things" to foster renewable energy, leaving leadership to the states at a time of opportunity to change the nation's energy future. "I see little happening at the federal level. Much more needs to happen." What's needed, he said, is a change of our national mind set. Instead of viewing the hurdles that still face renewable sources and setting national energy goals with those hurdles in mind, we should set ambitious national renewable energy goals and set about overcoming the hurdles to meet them. We have an opportunity, an opportunity we can take advantage of or an opportunity we can squander and let go,"

solar energy - the direct conversion of sunlight with solar cells, either into electricity or hydrogen, faces cost hurdles independent of their intrinsic efficiency. Ways must be found to lower production costs and design better conversion and storage systems.

Disenco Energy of the UK has announced it has reached important
milestones leading to full commercialization, such as the completion of
field trials for its home, micro combined heat and power plant (m-CHP).
The company expects to begin a product roll out in the second quarter of
2008.
Operating at over 90 percent efficiency, the m-CHP will be able to
provide 15 kilowatts of thermal energy (about 50,000 Btu’s) for heat and
hot water and generate 3 kilowatts of electricity. The m-CHP uses a
Stirling engine generator and would be a direct replacement for a home’s
boiler.
Running on piped-in natural gas the unit would create some independence
from the power grid, but still remain connected to the gas supply
network.
Whereas heat is supplied only when the generator is running (or
conversely electricity is generated only when heat is needed) a back-up
battery system and heavily insulated hot water storage tank seem
eventual options for more complete energy independence.

FEDERAL BUILDINGS WITH SOLAR ENERGY – Renewable Energy
All government buildings, Federal, State, County, City etc. should be mandated to be energy efficient and must use renewable energy on all new structures and structures that are been remodeled/upgraded.
"The government should serve as an example to its citizens"

Jay Draiman, Energy Consultant
Northridge, CA 91325
Email: renewableenergy2@msn.com.
Posted on: 06/18/2007

June 17, 2007 9:19 AM  

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