Thursday, January 31, 2008

The Sentinel Nails the Atavars

The Sentinel is a small local paper, you have to pay to read it online. They have been following the Recall/CRW situation since the start. The editor, Brian Karen, in particular, has been very good at seeing what's going on, and for a while reporter Contessa Cristosomo was writing good stories for them, while we worked through the sex-ed curriculum business -- she moved on to The Gazette, last I heard.

The Sentinel had a story about the CRW this week, and also an editorial. I hope they don't mind if I copy the whole editorial -- the link probably won't work for you if you're not a subscriber. This is good:
The Atavistic CRG

Editor’s Notebook by Brian J. Karem

LINK [pay only]

Atavism: recurrence in an organism of a trait or character typical of an ancestral form and usually due to genetic recombination.

I love to look for atavisms.

For some who like to hunt, they'll understand the thrill. It's like sitting in a deer blind and waiting for a deer to stroll by.

You know one will show up if you're in the right place, it's simply a matter of being patient.

Now, granted, finding atavistic individuals in Montgomery County is probably a darn bit easier than spotting deer, but then again I see deer all over my neighborhood - almost as frequently as I see people.

Atavistic individuals are easy to spot. Their DNA have recombined to produce people who believe the holocaust is a myth, evolution is a fairy story and the U.S. never landed on the moon.

I met one on Sunday. While pretending to be a Christian she scolded me because I said I trusted an unnamed public official. She didn't and told me she didn't trust anybody.

"Anybody?" I said. "Such existence must truly be filled with paranoia."

I told her I trusted her, even though I didn't know her because I prefer to trust everyone when I first meet them. Otherwise I just don't have the energy to go suspecting everyone of something nefarious.

But this woman told me she didn't trust this elected official - even though she had voted for him and didn't trust me nor did she trust anyone else. I wondered how she got along with her husband and children.

"I love you honey."

"Sure you do. You've been saying the same thing for 50 years and I still don't believe you."

I think that sound was Jesus rolling over in his grave.

Or maybe it was last night's dinner.

Anyway, this woman is a member of the group called "Citizens for Responsible Government."

They are currently trying to amass 25,000 signatures to get a referendum vote on repealing a county ordinance that protects transgender individuals from being discriminated against.

The CRG says its because the bill gives transgender individuals special rights to go into whatever public bathrooms they want to visit - or makes employers hire transgender individuals - churches too, if they are qualified and apply for work.

A spokesperson for the group even compared transgender people to pedophiles, a whopping stretch of the imagination to say the least.

They've invaded churches hoping to find enough signatures to change a law that really doesn't need to be changed.

They are playing on the fear that you or I could walk into a bathroom and if it were a woman's restroom, then we would find a man in his natural splendor, using the facilities.

If we are men, then I guess we'd have to worry about women invading our private sanctuary. Most men at this point are yawning. Others are wondering if that fantasy will over be fulfilled.

The Citizens For Responsible Government is filled with atavistic individuals. Their long dormant recessive genes have recombined to spring forth from the depths of some nether region a group of people who ignore facts, avoid and obfuscate the truth and struggle valiantly to tilt at windmills.

Despite the fact that any mention of the use of public bathrooms has been stricken from the county law, that's not good enough for the CRG and I witnessed first hand how they tried to strong arm people to sign their petition based entirely on the misconception they continue to promote.

Their literature is misleading, and while their cause may have the right intentions - protection of our youth - we all know that the road to Hell is paved by good intentions.

In fact, though, it appears the people at the CRG are basing their campaign less on protecting others and more on their own ignorance and prejudices.

It appears, according to our research, that the members of the CRG may not even understand the difference between transgender individuals and transvestites.

They are trying to lead us down a dark road it's better not to travel.

Thank you Brian. The atavistic Citizens for a Responsible Whatever are pushing the petition drive right now, with gigantic rallies and incredibly successful cold nights in front of grocery stores lying to people. Somebody in our comments section said that somebody called Elliot in the Morning (on DC-101), and said that their pastor had told them to sign the petitions, telling them it was for a law to keep men out of the ladies rooms. Elliot hung up on them, they said.

February Fourth they have to have, actually, 12,501 valid signatures. Maybe they will. Then they have a couple of weeks to get 12,501 more. They're really excited about the prospect of returning the right to discriminate against transgender people to Montgomery County, their sad lives will be so impoverished if that isn't allowed.

11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, wow...finally! A public statement by the media that puts the phony CRG (or whatever their current guise is) in place. I love this paragraph because it hits the nail squarely on the head: "The Citizens For Responsible Government is filled with atavistic individuals. Their long dormant recessive genes have recombined to spring forth from the depths of some nether region a group of people who ignore facts, avoid and obfuscate the truth and struggle valiantly to tilt at windmills."
Comments have been made here about the tactics of the CRGers at shopping centers; affirmation is given by a neutral third-party: "I witnessed first hand how they tried to strong arm people to sign their petition based entirely on the misconception they continue to promote."
"Their literature is misleading...it appears the people at the CRG are basing their campaign less on protecting others and more on their own ignorance and prejudices." BINGO!
Three more days left to collect 12,500 viable signatures on their petition...hopefully that will be the end of their whining and lying.

January 31, 2008 9:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly! I think we need to let more media outlets know about these lies. The rest of the country should be aware of their hateful tactics.

January 31, 2008 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"said that their pastor had told them to sign the petitions, telling them it was for a law to keep men out of the ladies rooms."

You know this imprecise and possibly incorrect statement keeps surfacing on TTF-innuendo but does anyone have any detail about this accusation that keeps getting repeated. Most churches record their sermons andd have them available online.

Can you find any pastor that says this?

"I witnessed first hand how they tried to strong arm people to sign their petition based entirely on the misconception they continue to promote."

More innuendo. Exactly how did they "strong arm" people?

The Sentinel piece. I'll believe the part about seeing petitioners. The rest sounds like an unlikely story. Similar to the stories Jim used to post here about his anonymous encounters.

January 31, 2008 11:32 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Anonymous, the representatives and friends of CRW have a long history of lying that precedes them, whereas the represetnatives and supporters of equality such as TTF have a long history of telling the truth. For this reason everything the bigots say is highly questionable whereas with TTF one can take it on their good record that they are telling the truth.

You know, this is why you are anonymous, you don't want your record of lying to follow you around.

January 31, 2008 1:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I will start using a teacher's behavioral technique that I often use with some of my ADHD students: ignoring AnonFreak and eventually he will realize that he is being rude and obnoxious and nobody is paying attention to him.

January 31, 2008 5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea- not anon

Let me see, do I believe the Sentinel or N.M. Anon and the Madwomen of CRabcdefg? Hmmn, tough choice. I guess I will have to go with people who publish under their own name and aren't known low intelligence homophobes.

January 31, 2008 7:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous, the representatives and friends of CRW have a long history of lying that precedes them, whereas the represetnatives and supporters of equality such as TTF have a long history of telling the truth."

Must be in some alternative universe because this site regularly features deception and supports a deceptive curriculum.

CRC's "long history of lying" is TTF spin. To TTF, every difference of opinion or mistaken belief or correct belief which conflicts with one of TTF's beliefs is a lie. Calling that lies is extremism and pretending you don't do the same is hypocrisy. In any case, incivility has been TTF's calling card from the beginning.

"For this reason everything the bigots say is highly questionable whereas with TTF one can take it on their good record that they are telling the truth."

See above.

I might add, however, that neither the disc jockeys mentioned above nor the reporter at Sentinel is an identified TTFer.

"You know, this is why you are anonymous, you don't want your record of lying to follow you around."

Not lying about anything. It is true that I'll occasionally throw up an idea about something I'm not sure about to see what reaction it'll get. I've actually learned alot reading and provoking on this blog. That's what the whole blog phenomenom is all about. You'd be surprised if you knew what use I put these things to. If you guys don't like it, change the rules for the blog. Personally, I think I make the discussion much livelier.

February 01, 2008 9:17 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

If wishes were horses beggars would ride. Your wanting your reputation to be honourable won't make it so. You're a liar and every objective observer of this blog knows it. A couple of your more blatant ones are that Galileo wasn't persecuted by the church and that Hitler was an atheist. You can't even make your lies realistic.

You don't make the discussion livelier you degrade it into the sewer.

February 01, 2008 12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A couple of your more blatant ones are that Galileo wasn't persecuted by the church"

I said he wasn't persecuted for his scientific research and that whatever sanction he received was extremely mild. You actually lied about several aspects in that conversation although you shifted your postion as I suppose you did research and discovered that what you claimed to know wasn't in fact true. Is it a lie to claim to know something you don't?

Actually, I am soon to go on my annual hiatus but before that I intend to put in a final word in on several of the more obnoxious lies and/or misconceptions you have posted here recently:

1. Galileo was threatened with death for saying the Earth revolves around the Sun

2. The whole overblown rhetoric concerning the Roman Inquistion

3. Stalin and Mao weren't motivated to kill by atheist doctrine but instead were innocently trying to convert their countries to wonderful agrarian societies

4. and the biggest whopper of all...

That Hitler was an Christian.

There's is much material to put all this nonsense to rest. Maybe I'll have time to pull it all together this weekend.

In the meantime, why don't you consult some of your lying atheist websites (and, btw, I found the site you plagiarized in your comments on Hitler's Table Talk) and explain this:

Stalin was raised as a Russian Orthodox. Mao was raised as a Buddhist. Hitler was raised as a Roman Catholic.

I'm not Catholic myself but I know enough to tell you that attendance at mass and confession are considered "holy obligations" in the Catholic Church.

If Hitler was a Christian, why did he never attend Mass after he left home as a teen?

February 01, 2008 2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, my guess is you use comments on this blog to give CRW ideas, and to possibly trap lgbt activists into statements that could be used against them at a later date on a different topic. My guess is that you are paid for your anti-lgbt activism; i.e. it's your job.

You said:

"said that their pastor had told them to sign the petitions, telling them it was for a law to keep men out of the ladies rooms."

You know this imprecise and possibly incorrect statement keeps surfacing on TTF-innuendo but does anyone have any detail about this accusation that keeps getting repeated. Most churches record their sermons andd have them available online.

Can you find any pastor that says this?"

I wasn't quoting a pastor. That's what the dude who called Elliot said; it was the impression he got. His intent in calling Elliot was to get Elliot to help him rile up the listeners to the program so they would go and sign the petition. He was doing CRG's work, so you'll have to fault them with the incorrect info.

rrjr

February 01, 2008 2:47 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Red Baron said "I said [galileo] wasn't persecuted for his scientific research and that whatever sanction he received was extremely mild.

And you clearly lied about that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

The Pope had an international group of consultants, experienced scholars of theology and canon law, who advised it on specific questions. In 1616 these consultants gave their assessment of the propositions that the Sun is immobile and at the center of the universe and that the Earth moves around it, judging both to be "foolish and absurd in philosophy," and the first to be "formally heretical" and the second "at least erroneous in faith" in theology. This assessment led to Copernicus's De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium to be placed on the Index of Forbidden Books, until revised and Galileo Galilei to be admonished about his Copernicanism. It was this same body in 1633 that tried Galileo, condemned him for a "grave suspicion of heresy", and banned all his works. Galileo died under house arrest.

The Inquisition's ban on reprinting Galileo's works was lifted in 1718 when permission was granted to publish an edition of his works (excluding the condemned Dialogue) in Florence.[67] In 1741 Pope Benedict XIV authorized the publication of an edition of Galileo's complete scientific works[68] which included a mildly censored version of the Dialogue.[69] In 1758 the general prohibition against works advocating heliocentrism was removed from the Index of prohibited books, although the specific ban on uncensored versions of the Dialogue and Copernicus's De Revolutionibus remained.[70] All traces of official opposition to heliocentrism by the Church didn't disappear until 1835 when these works were finally dropped from the Index.

Its no coincidence that in the 1990's the pope apologized for the mistreatment of Galileo. According to Red Baron this didn't happen because the church didn't do anything wrong.

Red baron accused me of posting "The whole overblown rhetoric concerning the Roman Inquistion".

What I posted was that Galileo was persecuted by the dreaded Roman inquisition. You replied that that didn't exist that, that I was thinking of the spanish inquisition. I proved you wrong by posting this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Inquisition


Red Baron accused me of posting that "Stalin and Mao weren't motivated to kill by atheist doctrine but instead were innocently trying to convert their countries to wonderful agrarian societies".

There's no such thing as an "atheist doctrine". Atheism is simply the disbelief in the supernatural, there is no associated doctrine any more than there's a doctrine of not believing in the Easter bunny. No action follows from the simple lack of belief in gods, however, as we've seen when you believe in a god you can justfy any kind of inhumanity to man on that basis. And I most certain never said Stalin and Mao "were innocently trying to convert their countries to wonderful agrarian societies".

Red baron said "If Hitler was a Christian, why did he never attend Mass after he left home as a teen?".

You're hilarious. If you actually looked at some of the links I posted instead of simply relying on the lies of Christian apologists you'd see that obviously isn't true.

Go back and this time look at ALL the pictures in this link:

http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

Note the picture of Hitler leaving the Marine Church in Wilhelmshaven, note the picture of his Brownshirt army in church, the pictures of him celebrating Christmas, the pictures of him and the Nazi party with the "Church of our lady" in the background showing that it represents the foundation of the party, note the picture of Hitler praying, note the picture of the Catholic biships giving the Nazi salute in honour of Hitler, note the picture of the signing of the Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazi party. Note the Hitler oath:

I swear by God,
this holy oath,
to the Führer of the German Reich and people.
Adolf Hitler...

February 01, 2008 3:20 PM  

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