Right Wing Violence: Add Arizona Killings to the List
In April Richard Poplawski fatally shot three policemen in Pittsburgh. He was afraid President Obama was going to take his guns away, he posted at a Nazi web site. His mother was trying to kick him out of the house when his dog peed on the floor, she called the police, he killed them.
Then this past month we had Scott Roeders killing a clinic doctor and James Von Brunn killing guards at the Holocaust Museum.
This story hasn't been getting much newstime, but if you're looking for a pattern you might want to be aware of it. From CBS News:
The extreme right is feeling a lot of pressure now, they are feeling that their dream is getting away from them. Provocateurs like Glenn Beck are lighting a fire under them, implying that America is going down the tubes if good people don't act, and now the really nutty ones are started to pop out over the top. There isn't much you can do about it, people have the right to their beliefs, you hope law enforcement is keeping an eye on the most extreme folks out there but even if they are, who knows when the pressure is going to be too much?
Each of these people -- Poplawski, Roeders, von Brunn, Forde -- was identified long ago as potentially violent. As the Department of Homeland Security report noted:
The report also noted:
We are seeing that. I suggest you look over that report -- it's short, easy reading, and gets right to the point. I have no doubt that we will be following more news stories along these lines in the months ahead.
Then this past month we had Scott Roeders killing a clinic doctor and James Von Brunn killing guards at the Holocaust Museum.
This story hasn't been getting much newstime, but if you're looking for a pattern you might want to be aware of it. From CBS News:
PHOENIX (CBS/AP) Anti-illegal immigration "extremists" murdered a Hispanic father and his 9-year-old daughter and gravely injured the man's wife in order to raise money for their cause, say Arizona police.
Jason Eugene Bush, 34, Shawna Forde, 41, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, have been charged with two counts each of first-degree murder and other charges, said Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Arizona.
The trio is alleged to have disguised themselves as law enforcement officers, forced their way into a home in rural Arivaca on May 30, and shot and killed Raul Junior Flores, 29, and his daughter Brisenia Flores, 9. Raul Flores' wife obtained a gun and fired back, hitting Bush. The wife was also wounded, according to police. Her name is not being released at this time.
Their motive was financial, police say. They sought a large sum of money to fuel their anti-illegal immigration operations.
“The husband who was murdered has a history of being involved in narcotics and there was an anticipation that there would be a considerable amount of cash at this location as well as the possibility of drugs,” Dupnik said.
Forde is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a small border watch group, and Bush goes by the nickname “Gunny” and is its operations director, according to the group's Web site. She was once associated with the better known and larger Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. Anti-Illegal Immigration "Extremists" Murder Girl And Father, Say Police
The extreme right is feeling a lot of pressure now, they are feeling that their dream is getting away from them. Provocateurs like Glenn Beck are lighting a fire under them, implying that America is going down the tubes if good people don't act, and now the really nutty ones are started to pop out over the top. There isn't much you can do about it, people have the right to their beliefs, you hope law enforcement is keeping an eye on the most extreme folks out there but even if they are, who knows when the pressure is going to be too much?
Each of these people -- Poplawski, Roeders, von Brunn, Forde -- was identified long ago as potentially violent. As the Department of Homeland Security report noted:
Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election timeframe to the present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.
The report also noted:
The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.
We are seeing that. I suggest you look over that report -- it's short, easy reading, and gets right to the point. I have no doubt that we will be following more news stories along these lines in the months ahead.
posted by JimK at 11:45 AM
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Pro-Homosexual Researchers Conceal Findings:
Children Raised by Openly Homosexual Parents More Likely to Engage in Homosexuality
By Trayce Hansen, Ph.D.
http://www.drtraycehansen.com/Pages/writings_prohomo.html
TTF should be happy. If gay parents are happy with their orientation, they should be delighted to see their children following in the same path.
Anon, first of all we note that Dr. Hansen does not cite any studies but just says there are some that show that between 8 and 21 percent of children raised by gay parents "ultimately identify as non-heterosexual." Of course, "ultimately" in that sentence only means they report not-being-heterosexual at the time some researcher interviewed them. There is no clue about when that was in their life or what the conditions of the interview were, and we don't know how many people report being "non-heterosexual" in the general population at any time, either.
Second, we can presume that most of the respondents in these "studies" were the biological offspring of at least one gay parent. As we know there is a hereditary component to sexual orientation, it should not be surprising if the probability of a gay parent having a gay child were somewhat increased.
Hilariously, at the end of the post she says "For a review of the research studies alluded to above, as well as additional analysis and references, see article entitled, "A Review and Analysis of Studies Which Assessed Sexual Preference of Children Raised by Homosexuals."" If there is such an article, Google doesn't know about it.
JimK
Quick follow-up - it looks like the "analysis" she cites is just another blog post on her site.
JimK
"As we know there is a hereditary component to sexual orientation,"
we do?
you criticize the researcher for not citing a study for one of her statements and here you do the same
In April 2007, no less than the CRC's Ruth Jacobs cited research in a talk showed that it was ten times more likely that a second twin would be gay, if the first one was -- strong evidence in support of a genetic basis. You could go ask her.
JimK
Citations showing that children of gay parents are no more likely to grow up
gay:
Golombok, Spencer, & Rutter, Children in Lesbian and Single-Parent Households:
Psychosexual and Psychiatric Appraisal, 24, J. Child Psychology and Psychiatry
551, 568 (1983)
Green, The Best Interests of a Child with a Lesbian Mother, 10 Bull. Am. Acad.
Psychiatry and Law, 7, 13, (1982)
Green, Mandel, Hotveldt, Gray, & Smith, Lesbian Mothers and Their Children: A
Comparison with Solo Parent Heterosexual Mothers and Their Children, 15 Archives
Sexual Behav., 167, 181 (1986)
Kirkpatrick, Smith, and Roy, Lesbian Mothers and their Children: A Comparative
Survey, 51 Am. J. Orthopsychiatry 545, 551 (1981)
Bozett, Children of Gay Fathers, in Gay and Lesbian Parents, F. Bozett ed.
(1987)
Allen, M., & Burrell, N. (1996). Comparing the impact of homosexual and heterosexual parents on children: Meta-analysis of existing research. Journal of Homosexuality, 32, 19-35.
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/lgprevspec.html
Courts determine custody and visitation on the basis of the "best interests of the child." Current judicial rulings in some jurisdictions reflect a bias against awarding custody or granting visitation rights to homosexual parents, favoring the heterosexual parent or heterosexual relative of the child(ren). Should the sexual orientation of the parent play a part in the determination of custody or visitation in order to protect the child? This meta-analysis summarizes the available quantitative literature comparing the impact of heterosexual and homosexual parents, using a variety of measures, on the child(ren). The analyses examine parenting practices, the emotional well-being of the child, and the sexual orientation of the child. The results demonstrate no differences on any measures between the heterosexual and homosexual parents regarding parenting styles, emotional adjustment, and sexual orientation of the child(ren). In other words, the data fail to support the continuation of a bias against homosexual parents by any court.
Anderssen, N., Amlie, C., & Ytteroy, E. A. (2002). Outcomes for children with lesbian or gay parents: A review of studies from 1978 to 2000. Scandinavian Journal of Psychology, 43, 335-351.
Reviewed 23 empirical studies published between 1978 and 2000 on nonclinical children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers (one Belgian/Dutch, one Danish, three British, and 18 North American). Twenty studies reported on offspring of lesbian mothers, and three on offspring of gay fathers. The studies encompassed a total of 615 offspring (age range 1.5-44 yrs.) of lesbian mothers or gay fathers and 387 controls, who were assessed by psychological tests, questionnaires, or interviews. Seven types of outcomes were found to be typical: emotional functioning, sexual preference, stigmatization, gender role behavior, behavioral adjustment, gender identity, and cognitive functioning. Children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers did not systematically differ from other children on any of the outcomes. The studies indicate that children raised by lesbian women do not experience adverse outcomes compared with other children. The same holds for children raised by gay men, but more studies should be done.
Gottman, J. S. (1990). Children of gay and lesbian parents. In F. W. Bozett & M. B. Sussman (Eds.), Homosexuality and family relations (pp. 177-196). New York: Harrington Park Press.
Reviews research literature on children of homosexual (HS) parents, including comparisons with children of heterosexual parents. Children of HS parents did not appear deviant in gender identity, sexual orientation, or social adjustment. Issues that emerged during their upbringing related more to society's rejection of homosexuality than to poor parent-child relationships. Most social adjustment problems occurred in both groups and were commonly related to family history of divorce. Results are supported by J. Schwartz's (unpublished manuscript) investigation of the above variables in adult-aged daughters in relation to mothers' sexual orientations, with a focus on role modeling theory
Victor, S. B., & Fish, M. C. (1995). Lesbian mothers and their children: A review for school psychologists. School Psychology Review, 24, 456-479.
Reviews 56 studies (published from 1971 to 1994) on lesbian mothers and their children. Three main family patterns and some common misconceptions about these families are addressed. Research suggests there are no differences between children of lesbians and children of heterosexuals with regard to their emotional health, interpersonal relationships, sexual orientation, or gender development. Psychological adjustment and parenting skills were not significantly different for lesbian and heterosexual mothers. Implications for school psychology practice and training are discussed.
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As we can see there's a reason why its biased religious conservatives are the only people claiming gay parents are more likely to raise gay children - they start out wanting to find that conclusion and lie to do so. The vast majority of the scientific literature shows gay parents are no more likely to raise gay children then heterosexual parents.
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Bad anonymous said "If gay parents are happy with their orientation, they should be delighted to see their children following in the same path.".
Unlike the heterosexual parents of some unfortunate children gay parents don't seek to have their children emulate them in every way. They're happy to see their children become what's best for them, rather than to dictate to their children who they should be. As well, knowing the abuse gay people encounter from people like you, gay parents don't wish their child to be gay unless that is who they really are inside.
What a President!!
The President yesterday denounced the "extent of the fraud" and the "shocking" and "brutal" response of the Iranian regime to public demonstrations in Tehran these past four days.
"These elections are an atrocity," he said.
"If [Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad had made such progress since the last elections, if he won two-thirds of the vote, why such violence?"
The statement named the regime as the cause of the outrage in Iran and, without meddling or picking favorites, stood up for Iranian democracy.
Unfortunately, the President with the balls is the President of France.
Sir Barry O, on the other hand, is being very careful in his public statements not to say anything that might offend anyone.
Oh, dear. That wouldn't do.
You know you're a wimpy nation when...
France is tougher on dictators than you.
And what thanks do we get from the thugs in Iran for our restraint?
this from AP:
"TEHRAN, Iran (June 17) - Iran has accused the United States of "intolerable" meddling in its internal affairs, alleging for the first time that Washington has fueled a bitter post-election dispute.
A state television channel in Iran says the government summoned the Swiss ambassador, who represents U.S. interests in Iran, to complain about American interference. An English-language state-run channel quoted the government as calling U.S. interference "intolerable.""
"Unlike the heterosexual parents of some unfortunate children gay parents don't seek to have their children emulate them in every way."
Can you cite any studies proving that?
"In April 2007, no less than the CRC's Ruth Jacobs cited research in a talk showed that it was ten times more likely that a second twin would be gay, if the first one was -- strong evidence in support of a genetic basis. You could go ask her."
That may be due to indirect factors.
For example, they may have a gene that makes them stupid so they can't develop relationships with gals and so they gravitate to a homosexual lifestyle where lust trumps emotional compatability and the relationships have little risk because of the widespread availability of random promiscuity.
If so, there may be parenting techniques that could ameliorate the risks.
More research needs to be done to prevent the tragedy of homosexuality.
Anyway, I didn't say genetic factors weren't involved. I was just noting the technique where anyone who makes a statement that counters the gay agenda is instantly asked for scientific proof while any statement that supports the gay agenda gets a free pass.
"Can you cite any studies proving that?".
I just did moron. Read them and educate yourself.
JK said:
Second, we can presume that most of the respondents in these "studies" were the biological offspring of at least one gay parent. As we know there is a hereditary component to sexual orientation, it should not be surprising if the probability of a gay parent having a gay child were somewhat increased.
Priya Lynn said...
“Citations (OLD) that children of gay parents are no more likely to grow up
gay”
SO WE DON’T KNOW?
LOOKS LIKE HEREDITARY AND ENVIRONMENT PLAY A ROLE.
Do you think APA (2009)IS RIGHT?
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles. ..."
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Bad anonymous said "For example, they may have a gene that makes them stupid so they can't develop relationships with gals and so they gravitate to a homosexual lifestyle where lust trumps emotional compatability and the relationships have little risk because of the widespread availability of random promiscuity.".
If stupidity lead to gayness then you'd be gay. Obviously there is no correlation between gayness and low IQ, in fact religious conservatives always claim the opposite - that gays are overrepresented in high paying jobs and positions of power and influence and thus aren't in need of social protection.
Bad anonymous said "More research needs to be done to prevent the tragedy of homosexuality.".
Study after study since the 1950's has shown that gays are just as well adjusted as straights, so unless you consider being straight to be a tragedy there is nothing to prevent. As the link to the studies I gave shows, the only problems gays have are caused by oppressive hate mongers like yourself - science has shown you are the problem.
Bad anonymous said "LOOKS LIKE HEREDITARY AND ENVIRONMENT PLAY A ROLE.".
Environment refers to the biological environment such as prenatal hormones and so on, not to the parenting environment. There is no evidence that parenting influences gayness, in fact all the existing studies suggest the opposite. The APA saying that "many people" think nurture plays a role merely documents the broader societies beliefs - they themselves see no such evidence and say so in their statement.
And tellingly, you attempted to suppress the last phrase in that statement:
"most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."
Not surprising seeing as it directly contradicts the lies you frequently tell here.
hey, Kennedy
all I did was say I agree with the APA
why is that deletable?
"I just did moron. Read them and educate yourself."
I know you have to type fast before one of those men in the nice white coats makes you get off the computer but, in calling another a moron, you've looked in the mirror.
None of your studies indicate this:
"Unlike the heterosexual parents of some unfortunate children gay parents don't seek to have their children emulate them in every way."
They most certainly do, check them out yourself for a change instead of just making crap up as you go. As I've documented studies from the 70's to present day demonstrate that gay parents are no more likely to raise gay children than heterosexual parents. And over 86 and perhaps as many as 130 or more of these studies were reviewed by the APA itself and they documented that parenting was clearly not a facture in any child's sexual orientation in these cases. The religionists have been strugling to document the opposite for decades and as we've seen have had to resort to your tactic of simply making things up. The science is clear.
why is that deletable?
Because I said so.
JimK
Let's see some of the other things the APA had to say about gays that Bad anonymous doesn't want you to know:
"According to current scientific and professional understanding, the core attractions that form the basis for adult sexual orientation typically emerge between middle childhood and early adolescence. These patterns of emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction may arise without any prior sexual experience. People can be celibate and still know their sexual orientation-–be it lesbian, gay, bisexual, or heterosexual.
Different lesbian, gay, and bisexual people have very different experiences regarding their sexual orientation. Some people know that they are lesbian, gay, or bisexual for a long time before they actually pursue relationships with other people. Some people engage in sexual activity (with same-sex and/or othersex partners) before assigning a clear label to their sexual orientation. Prejudice and discrimination make it difficult for many people to come to terms with their sexual orientation identities, so claiming a lesbian, gay, or bisexual identity may be a slow process."
This directly refutes bad anonymous's right wing talking points that gays become gay through the experience of same sex sex, and that gayness is "a behavior"
Lesbian, gay, and bisexual people in the United States encounter extensive prejudice, discrimination, and violence because of their sexual orientation. Intense prejudice against lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people was widespread throughout much of the 20th century. Public opinion studies over the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s routinely showed that, among large segments of the public, lesbian, gay, and bisexual people were the target of strongly held negative attitudes. More recently, public opinion has increasingly opposed sexual orientation discrimination, but expressions of hostility toward lesbians and gay men remain common in contemporary American society. Prejudice against bisexuals appears to exist at comparable levels. In fact, bisexual individuals may face discrimination from some lesbian and gay people as well as from heterosexual people.
Sexual orientation discrimination takes many forms. Severe antigay prejudice is reflected in the high rate of harassment and violence directed toward lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals in American society. Numerous surveys indicate that verbal harassment and abuse are nearly universal experiences among lesbian, gay, and bisexual people. Also, discrimination against lesbian, gay, and bisexual people in employment and housing appears to remain widespread.
The HIV/AIDS pandemic is another area in which prejudice and discrimination against lesbian, gay, and bisexual people have had negative effects. Early in the pandemic, the assumption that HIV/AIDS was a “gay disease” contributed to the delay in addressing the massive social upheaval that AIDS would generate. Gay and bisexual men have been disproportionately affected by this disease. The association of HIV/AIDS with gay and bisexual men and the inaccurate belief that some people held that all gay and bisexual men were infected served to further stigmatize lesbian, gay, and bisexual people.
Prejudice and discrimination have social and personal impact. On the social level, prejudice and discrimination against lesbian, gay, and bisexual people are reflected in the everyday stereotypes of members of these groups. These stereotypes persist even though they are not supported by evidence, and they are often used to excuse unequal treatment of lesbian, gay, and bisexual people. For example, limitations on job opportunities, parenting, and relationship recognition are often justified by stereotypic assumptions about lesbian, gay, and bisexual people.
On an individual level, such prejudice and discrimination may also have negative consequences, especially if lesbian, gay, and bisexual people attempt to conceal or deny their sexual orientation. Although many lesbians and gay men learn to cope with the social stigma against homosexuality, this pattern of prejudice can have serious negative effects on health and well-being. Individuals and groups may have the impact of stigma reduced or worsened by other characteristics, such as race, ethnicity, religion, or disability. Some lesbian, gay, and bisexual people may face less of a stigma. For others, race, sex, religion, disability, or other characteristics may exacerbate the negative impact of prejudice and discrimination.
The widespread prejudice, discrimination, and violence to which lesbians and gay men are often subjected are significant mental health concerns. Sexual prejudice, sexual orientation discrimination, and antigay violence are major sources of stress for lesbian, gay, and bisexual people. Although social support is crucial in coping with stress, antigay attitudes and discrimination may make it difficult for lesbian, gay, and bisexual people to find such support."
"As I've documented studies from the 70's to present day demonstrate that gay parents are no more likely to raise gay children than heterosexual parents."
no, you didn't
"And over 86 and perhaps as many as 130 or more of these studies were reviewed by the APA itself and they documented that parenting was clearly not a facture in any child's sexual orientation in these cases."
That's not the same as saying the gays didn't try to pass it on
"The science is clear."
Actually, what's clear is the APA statement that the science isn't clear.
"Because I said so."
Great, Jim. As long as we're clear it has nothing to do with the remark itself.
"Sexual orientation discrimination takes many forms."
People have a perfect right to discriminate against behavior they disagree with.
It's called freedom.
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