Thursday, September 02, 2010

ABC News on Bullying and the Gay Agenda

This is just another run-of-the-mill story of rightwing nuts defending unacceptable behavior, except for the fact that it is presented on ABC News without any comment. The headline reads "Some School Anti-Bullying Programs Push Gay Agenda, Christian Group Says." It's like a headline "Hurricane Approaches East Coast, Meteorologist Says," or "Gunman Has Hostages, Police Say." The headline seems to assume that there is a "gay agenda," that Focus on the Family is a representative Christian group, that it matters what they say.

Here's how the story starts.
Gay-rights groups' push for anti-bullying legislation and school programs is an effort to "promote homosexuality to kids," according to a conservative Christian activist organization.

The accusation has underscored the conflicting attitudes among some politicians and parents who have lent their support to these policies after a string of deadly bullying episodes across the country.

Focus on the Family has accused gay-rights groups of using tolerance and anti-bullying programs to introduce curricula and books into schools that promote political aims such as same-sex marriage. The same groups, it says, lobby for gays and other minority groups to be specifically mentioned in anti-bullying legislation and try to depict Christians opposed to such treatment as bigots. Some School Anti-Bullying Programs Push Gay Agenda, Christian Group Says

Wow, this is a lot. I don't know where to start.

Promoting homosexuality to kids. There seems to be an assumption here that students who learn that homosexuality exists, that some people are gay, will become gay themselves. In reality, most people have an innate heterosexual orientation, and some small percentage have a homosexual or bisexual orientation, it doesn't matter what you tell them, that's just how they are. Education that discusses homosexuality serves two purposes. First, it gives students who are discovering they are gay some explanation for their differentness and hope that they can live normal happy lives. Second, if the straight students understand what the deal is they might be less likely to be bigoted jerks to those who are different from them -- not only gay kids but kids who express unique individual characteristics of any kind.

Tolerance and anti-bullying programs. The idea of tolerance is the scariest thing to The Nutty Ones. Imagine a world where people were free to be who they are, and other people accepted and even loved them -- what a nightmare! It is a fact that there are all kinds of people in the world, and you don't have to like every one of them but they have a right to live as they are. And ... who is in favor of bullying? What kind of twisted mind finds bullying defensible? Do they have scripture to back them up?

Political aims such as same-sex marriage. Same-sex marriage is not a "political aim." Two people fall in love and want to start a home and a family, there is nothing political about that, except that these crazy people want to stop them.

Groups ... lobby for gays and other minority groups. Funny, bullies tend to pick on anyone who is "different" in some way. That means different from the majority. That means minority, bullies pick on minorities, that's how it works. They don't pick on somebody for being just like everybody else, because they're bullies, that is, they are inherently cowardly. Also, I am having a hard time thinking of any group that lobbies for "gays and other minority groups." Oh, yeah, I forgot about the APGCAUPS, the Association for the Promotion of Gays, Czech-Americans, and Unmedicated Paranoid Schizophrenics. I mean, come on. Bullying is bad, Christians should oppose it.

Try to depict Christians opposed to such treatment as bigots. This is a fascinating piece of wording. What is the word "Christians" doing in that sentence, do you know? I personally would say that anyone who supports the practice of bullying children who are different, anyone who thinks that gay people need to be deprived of their Constitutional rights because of who they are, is a bigot. I don't ask what religion they are. If they're Christians, then fine, I'd say "Christians opposed to such treatment" are bigots. If they're Jewish, Mormon, even if they're atheists, I find it relatively comfortable to refer to hateful people who are prejudiced against a group of people as "bigots." Throwing the word "Christian" into this sentence makes it sound like one religion is being picked on. Oh, and since everybody knows that Christians are good people, those who refer to some of them as bigots are, if your thinking is simple enough, bad people.

I mean, sheesh, who writes this stuff?
"What parents need to be aware of is there are activist groups who want to promote homosexuality to kids because they realize if they can capture hearts and minds of our children at the earliest ages they will have for all practical purposes won the clash of values that we are currently experiencing," Candi Cushman, education analyst for Focus on the Family, said on recently launched website TrueTolerance.org.

"They've started introducing homosexuality lessons, sometimes even sexually graphic information under the cover of tolerance or so-called safe school initiatives or even anti-bullying programs," she said.

Wow, capturing the hearts and minds of our children, that's bad, right?

Let me explain what this "promoting homosexuality" stuff is about, because it's easy. There are gay people in the world. They are tired of being denied the rights and privileges that straight people take for granted. They are tired of being beaten up for walking down the street. They are tired of being mistreated on schoolyards, in the workplace. It's time for stupid people to get over it and realize that gay people are just people. They don't care to "recruit" any kid into any "lifestyle," if a kid is gay he or she will know it when they approach adulthood and they deserve to be allowed to have love in their lives without idiots persecuting them and accusing them of things like "promoting homosexuality."

That's how the article starts. After this point, somebody from the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network (GLSEN) is quoted, and we learn that nine out of ten gay students report harassment at school. We learn that 43 states have adopted anti-bullying legislation. And I thought this was interesting:
After physical appearance, sexual orientation, or perceived sexual orientation, was the primary reason students said they were harassed.

There is video on this web page, a story about a girl in Massachusetts named Phoebe Prince who committed suicide after relentless bullying. It's horrible to think of, it's hard enough growing up without other people intentionally make your life miserable to the point that it is not worth living any more.

I like the way this guy talks:
Massachusetts State Sen. Robert O'Leary, who wrote the state's recently passed anti-bullying law in the wake of the suicide of Phoebe Prince, a 16-year-old Irish immigrant who hanged herself after being harassed in school and online, said Focus on the Family is missing the point and using children's pain to promote its own agenda.

"We all understand that bullying has been around forever," the Democrat said. "We have to make an effort to stop and recognize it and understand it has enormously destructive impacts on children.

"The fact that they argue in this vein indicates that it is often gays and lesbians who are most often the targets of this abuse, and that's why it's doubly important to protect them."

Oh, and I'm glad we've had five-plus years of listening to the Citizens for a Responsible Whatever, so we can follow this reasoning:
The Colorado-based organization says the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network has targeted thousands of school districts nationwide with literature. "Schools are only allowed to provide one message about homosexuality; that it's normal and should be embraced," Focus on the Family said of the gay group's message.

"The school introduced anti-bullying lessons but really they're teaching elementary school kids about gay marriage," Cushman told ABC News.com. "We think parents should have the right to teach kids about it in their own way."

So there you go, they're teaching X but they're really teaching Y. They don't even have to say it, gay marriage will magically appear in the minds of students who are taught not to bully.

Also, that "normal and embraced" business. The one message is this: some people are gay, get over it. You don't have to embrace anybody, and nothing will be shoved down your throat.

In reality, this argument has just about spent itself. Fifty years ago LGBT people were routinely persecuted and mocked by the mainstream media and the man on the street. There has been a movement to remove the stigma of minority sexual orientations and gender identities, and it has worked. The more gay people you meet the more you realize they are just people, and that's the whole message. They deserve the same rights as the rest of us, and a historical worldwide trend has brought down the wall between gay and straight individuals. There are still holdouts but that's just what they are, holdouts clinging to a way of life that doesn't exist any more.

60 Comments:

Anonymous the times they are a-changin' said...

there is a backlash coming against the enforced normalization of homosexuality

if people don't want to associate and engage in transactions or relationships with people involved in this type of behavior, they have that right

and that doesn't constitute "bullying"

see how insidious the gay agenda thinking is:

"They are tired of being denied the rights and privileges that straight people take for granted....They are tired of being mistreated on schoolyards, in the workplace. It's time for stupid people to get over it and realize that gay people are just people."

What rights and privileges are denied? What mistreatment?

Why, the right to be considered "just people".

If you aren't considered "just people", you're being mistreated.

This is the goal of the gay agenda.

Normalization of homosexuality.

The think the government should intervene in personal relationships and force everyone to treat homosexuals as normal.

Why not all the other abnormal people?

Why not just have the government tell us who we buy from, rent to, talk to, eat with?

Otherwise, someone might be "bullied" by not being considered normal.

Everyone has a right to be liked for whoever they are!

The backlash is coming.

September 02, 2010 12:56 PM  
Anonymous incompetence alert said...

NEW ORLEANS, La. (Sept. 2) -- An offshore petroleum platform exploded and was burning Thursday in the Gulf of Mexico about 100 miles off the Louisiana coast, west of the site where BP's undersea well spilled after a rig explosion.

All 13 people aboard the rig have been accounted for. The extent of the injurues was not known.

They were rescued from the water by an offshore service vessel, the Crystal Clear, said the Coast Guard.

"Thirteen people were seen huddled together in the water wearing gumby suits or immersion suits, water protection suits," Coast Guard spokesman Chief Petty Officer John Edwards said.

Seven Coast Guard helicopters, two airplanes and three cutters were dispatched to the scene from New Orleans, Houston and Mobile, Ala., Ben-Iesau said. She said authorities do not know how much oil was leaking from the site.

The platform, known as Vermilion Oil Platform 380, was owned by Mariner Energy of Houston, according to a homeland security operations update obtained by The Associated Press.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama was in a meeting and did not know whether Obama had been informed of the explosion.

September 02, 2010 1:32 PM  
Anonymous buh-bye, Nancy said...

this week, a poll was released by Gallup showing that the only area where the American people have more trust in Democrats than Republicans is the environment

then, yesterday, an environmental terrorist attacks the hallowed home of Shark Week in beautiful downtown Silver Spring, tainting environmentalism in the same way Squeaky Fromme and the Unabomber once did

now, everyone perceives how nutty environmentalists are

could things get any worse for Democrats?

September 02, 2010 3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The headline seems to assume that Focus on the Family is a representative Christian group, that it matters what they say."

Focus on the Family teaches abstinence programs that are renowned around the world. Story in the Post this morning says that the Chinese government has asked them to train teachers there to conduct ab programs. They already do this in many other countries.

btw, interesting quote from a Democratic strategist who is trying to help Democrats get elected despite the Obama administration's indifference to the chronic unemployment problem in the U.S.:

"We did the mosque, Katrina, Iraq and, now, Middle East peace? And, in between, you redo the Oval Office? It has become a joke."

That's right, folks. During the Iraq speech this week, the American people got a first look at a major accomplishment of the Obama administration: they redecorated the Oval Office. Meanwhile, millions of America look for gainful employment. You get the feeling that Obama finds our economic troubles a little boring. He feels entitled to pursue more interesting projects.

Of course, an administration spokesman had a snappy comeback: before a golf game at the Vineyard last week, Barry talked about the economy for fifteen minutes with NY mayor Bloomberg.

I also talked about the economy with someone before I played golf not long ago. Just wanted to let everyone know old Mr. Anon is doing his part.

September 03, 2010 6:14 AM  
Anonymous magic carpet rider said...

Two-thirds of New York City residents want a planned Muslim community center and mosque to be relocated to a less controversial site farther away from ground zero in Lower Manhattan, including many who describe themselves as supporters of the project, according to a New York Times poll.

Louis Farrakhan said Thursday that he agreed with Obama that an Islamic community center and mosque planned near ground zero should be built.

"Why should a mosque, a cultural center, not be constructed a few blocks away?" Farrakhan asked at a news conference in , where he was joined by a coalition of African-American Muslims.

Farrakhan and other Muslim leaders said the controversy over the building points to a rise in racism toward minorities.

The proposed $100 million project has been denounced by many critics as insensitive to the families of people killed at the site. They say it is disrespectful to build an Islamic institution so close to the spot where nearly 2,800 people died at the hands of Muslim extremists.

"When that building was destroyed, the whole world felt it," Farrakhan said. He said the area is also hallowed ground to blacks who are Muslims.

"Muslims are here." Farrakhan said.

Early plans for the Islamic center call for a swimming pool and a prayer space.

Farrakhan also commented on the discussion that Obama is a Muslim.

"Respect his choice," Farrakhan said. "He chose to a deep respect for Islam. Take him as he is."

Obama agreed Muslims have the right to practice their religion by building the Islamic center in lower Manhattan.

September 03, 2010 8:36 AM  
Anonymous how stimulating said...

numbers released this morning show unemployment rising from 9.5% in June to 9.6% in July

September 03, 2010 9:14 AM  
Anonymous yes we can get a new Prez in 2012 said...

"Thank you so much. Are you not so proud to be an American?

What an honor. What an honor.

We stand today at the symbolic crossroads of our nation’s history. All around us are monuments to those who have sustained us in word or deed. There in the distance stands the monument to the father of our country. And behind me, the towering presence of the Great Emancipator who secured our union at the moment of its most perilous time and freed those whose captivity was our greatest shame. And over these grounds where we are so honored to stand today, we feel the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who on this very day, two score and seven years ago, gave voice to a dream that would challenge us to honor the sacred charters of our liberty – that all men are created equal.

........

And I know that many of us today, we are worried about what we face. Sometimes our challenges, they just seem insurmountable.

But, here, together, at the crossroads of our history, may this day be the change point!

Look around you. You’re not alone. You are Americans!

You have the same steel spine and the moral courage of Washington and Lincoln and Martin Luther King. It is in you. It will sustain you as it sustained them.

So with pride in the red, white, and blue; with gratitude to our men and women in uniform; let’s stand together! Let’s stand with honor! Let’s restore America!

God bless you! And God bless America!"

the first and last few lines of Sarah Palin's historic speech at the Lincoln Memorial last Saturday

to read the rest:

http://www.thesarahpalinblog.com/2010/08/video-and-transcript-of-restoring-honor.html

although Sarah was not planning to run in 2012, the clamor since that momentous is causing hr to reconsider

as will America in 2012

September 03, 2010 10:02 AM  
Anonymous at least she's got common sense said...

The "Hillary Clinton for President" commercial began its run in New Orleans this week and the man behind the campaign, William DeJean, said he will also pay for it to air in Washington, New York, Los Angeles and Houston.

DeJean said he paid to make the ad because he doesn't think "this country is headed in the right direction," and believes Hillary Clinton is the one who can set things straight.

The ad calls Clinton "one of the most admired women in our nation's history" who has "more experience working in and with the White House than most living presidents."

"Let's make sure the president we should have elected in 2008 will be on the ballot in 2012," the ad says. "Hillary 2012: Hillary Clinton for President. Start now. Where there's a Hill there's a way."

Clinton, the secretary of state, has repeatedly said she has no intention of running for president again. She lost the Democratic primary in 2008 to her current boss, the failing president Barack Obama.

September 03, 2010 12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"a-changing times" (a.k.a. "Anonumous"
Here's what you said: "if people don't want to associate and engage in transactions or relationships with people involved in this type of behavior, they have that right"

Exactly my sentiments!!! You hit the nail on the head. Because I choose not to associate and engage in transactions or relationships with bigots like you, or pseudo-Christians, or ignoramuses, I have that right. And boy...do I ever practice that right. I don't want to be surrounded, or tainted, by evilness and hatred, so I avoid people like you!
Invictus

September 03, 2010 4:14 PM  
Anonymous slumdog millionaire said...

OK, then, stop complaining and stop being a hypocrite

live and let live and stop trying to get the government to force everyone to validate deviancy

September 03, 2010 4:37 PM  
Anonymous rational thinker said...

it's interesting with a guys (?) like Invictus

they complain about people not wanting to associate with homosexuals and then they don't associate with people with certain religious viewpoints

so their issue is not discrimination at all

never was

their issue is they don't agree with the Christian viewpoint on homosexuality and they want to the government to persecute that religious viewpoint

that's for making that clear, invicto

that helps a lot

a lot of your friends try to create a false impression

September 03, 2010 4:46 PM  
Anonymous confidence man said...

President Obama on Friday said he has no regrets about describing the last three months as the "Recovery Summer."

"I don't regret the notion that we are moving forward because of the steps that we have taken," Obama said in response to a question after he offered comments on the latest unemployment figures.

The administration described the summer of 2010 as "recovery summer" because a large amount of the 2009 stimulus package was being spent over the summer. But job growth slowed dramatically over the summer amid concerns the economy was moving into a double-dip recession.

The president's remarks came after the Labor Department released jobs data showing unemployment rising from 9.5 to 9.6 percent.

The administration has held that its policies have returned the economy to health.

"We are confident we are moving in the right direction," said Obama.

September 03, 2010 7:59 PM  
Anonymous resident of a true blue state said...

What?

He forgot to blame George Bush.

That line should be good through 2016.

Go with your strengths, Barry!

September 03, 2010 8:02 PM  
Anonymous snap crackle pop said...

you know, one of the hallmarks of homosexuality is a lack of restraint

the lack of moderation is among the reasons most people would prefer not to associate with them

give them the right to demonstrate and we get the lewd and perverted exhibitionism of gay pride parades

allow them to have their gay bars and clubs and we get random and extensive promiscuity resulting in new incurable and invariably fatal sexually transmitted diseases

allow them to live together and we get an attack on the definition of marriage, society's most essential structure

allow them to have their gay-straight clubs in schools and they overdo it, making sure they are included in school announcements every single day, never giving the kids a break from their propaganda

allow them to teach children in public schools and we get a curriculum that encourages a fairy tale vision of the gay lifestyle

allow them to walk around dressed like girls and we get laws that force business owners to let such guys use the girls' restroom

agree not to ask if they don't tell in the military and they fight for the right to tell even if you don't ask

of course, the homosexual respose to all this is:

we can't help it

indiscretion is innate

a backlash is coming against the gay agenda

September 04, 2010 10:24 AM  
Anonymous Abraham, Martin and Tom said...

by now, everyone has heard Barack Obama spent this "summer of recovery" redecorating the Oval Office while millions of Americans struggled to find employment in order to support their families

have you heard that his rug has a quote attributed to MLK Jr on the rug itself?:

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice"

unfortunately, Barry has screwed up again

this quote was not actually by MLK but was plagiarized

it is actually a quote from Thomas Parker, a clergymen in the first half of 19th century whose grandfather commanded the Minutemen at the Battle of Lexington

so, this quote has a closer relationship to the Tea Party than Obama

ironically, there is also another quote on Obama's new rug, which is attributed on the rug to Abe Lincoln:

"government of the people, by the people, for the people"

oops!

turns this line was also plagiarized from the very same Thomas Parker, although, at least when Lincoln said it, Parker was still around to claim credit, if he so desired

it's a small world

apparently, Obama spent much time carefully selecting these quotes

glad he could squeeze it in bewteen vacations

September 04, 2010 10:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG, "rational thinker" (hehe)/"snapcracklepop"/"slumdog millionaire"/"Anonymous"
You are so full of bile and hatred that it is frightening! Perhaps a priest/minister/rabbi/or other religious figure could give you the help you so obviously need.

Your own words: "the lack of moderation is among the reasons most people would prefer not to associate with [them}" (here insert "you")
There is nothing hypocritical with using your owm criteria for determining whom I choose not to associate with...those were your words. Fortunately for most of the readers here, we don't have to associate with you, except to put up with your endlessly irrelevant comments.

Allow me once again to quote you: "live and let live and stop trying to get the government to force everyone to validate deviancy". Talk about hypocracy!
You have no idea of the concept of "live and let live"...unless it is restricted by your distorted and warped ideas of who should even exist on this planet. You need to grasp the democratic idea of "equal justice under the law".

"their issue is they don't agree with the Christian viewpoint on homosexuality and they want to the government to persecute that religious viewpoint" Government "persecution" of your religious viewpoint? You have got to be kidding...do we need a clearer example of your woeful paranoia? Criticizing your religious hypocracy is NOT persecution. If you followed and were an exemplar of your religious beliefs as put forth by your Savior, you wouldn't be criticized. You have outdone your hero/mentor Glenn Beck with this ludicrous statement!

Apparently you are an attendee at Gay Pride events (but, apparently, not at Mardi Gras events). Your statement: "give them the right to demonstrate and we get the lewd and perverted exhibitionism of gay pride parades" is truly an example of "cast the first stone" hypocracy.
Invictus

September 04, 2010 12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Furthermore...

"allow them to have their gay bars and clubs and we get random and extensive promiscuity resulting in new incurable and invariably fatal sexually transmitted diseases". I think you also forgot to mention the venues for sin that you probably have visited - you know, those trendy "wife-swapping" luxury resorts or those "nudie" places where prostitution and drugs and the demeaning of women are rampant amongst the heterosexuals who visit them with tiresome frequency (often leaving the "little wife" at home to do her wifely chores).

"allow them to live together and we get an attack on the definition of marriage, society's most essential structure" Is this your sanctimonious comment on the outrageous and society-damaging divorce rate in this country? "most essential structure"? You need to contract a better builder if you seek that.

"allow them to have their gay-straight clubs in schools and they overdo it, making sure they are included in school announcements every single day, never giving the kids a break from their propaganda"
And your proof of this ridiculous assertion is what? Your own distorted feelings? Your own personal experience? Hearsay blather from the bigoted groups you support and are a member of? Your own children coming home with evidentiary complaints? Oh, I forgot, your children did not/do not attend public schools!

"allow "them" (sic.) to teach children in public schools and we get a curriculum that encourages a fairy tale vision of the gay lifestyle"
Of course...the vast majority of citizens in Montgomery County do not support your concepts of teaching hatred and bigotry against others who are "different".
But you insist on dragging up your old, lost battles...on and on. Tiresome!!

"allow them to walk around dressed like girls and we get laws that force business owners to let such guys use the girls' restroom" Despicable comment!! You lost on this issue, madam/chum.

"agree not to ask if they don't tell in the military and they fight for the right to tell even if you don't ask"....and you are about to lose on this one, too.

"indiscretion is innate" Oops...another observation about everybody but yourself. Your constant whining and obsession with GLBT folks is causing readers here to suspect your own closeted feelings. Be careful! Your own indiscretions may undo you.
Invictus

September 04, 2010 12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

not a lot of time to respond to your easily laughed off comments this evening, invicta-fool

maybe tomorrow

September 04, 2010 8:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

numbers released this morning show unemployment rising from 9.5% in June to 9.6% in July

And wait until all those armed forces men try to return to the work force!

September 04, 2010 10:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“We may be at a pre-revolutionary moment,” Patrick Caddell, Democratic political advisor says, unsmiling. “Everything is in motion.” This November, he predicts, “will be more of a national referendum than any election since Watergate.”

The polling data show how restless the country is. “A Rasmussen poll from earlier this year showed just 21 percent of voters believing that the federal government enjoys the consent of the governed — an astounding figure,” Caddell says. “Then a CNN poll showed that 56 percent of Americans worried that the federal government poses a direct threat to their freedom.”

“Democrats are aware of this,” Caddell continues. “They know that the general outcome is baked.” As the fall campaign kicks into gear, “the question now becomes whether Obama can mitigate their losses. You see them trying to localize their campaigns and pretending that they don’t know Nancy Pelosi. It’s all rather amusing.”

Unlike President Reagan at his first-term midpoint, in 1982, “Obama is not able to go out there and say, ‘Stay the course.’ That’s just not possible. The Democrats’ hope with health care was that ‘people will like it after we pass it.’ Well, they hate it, and you don’t see any effort to promote it. The Democrats had a chance to do this right — most people supported aspects of reform — but because of the way it was passed, as a crime against democracy, the country has simply not accepted it. The lies, the browbeating, the ‘deem and pass’ — all of it was a suicide mission.”

September 04, 2010 11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you may remember, in the campaign of 2008, how Barry said all we need to do is engage the Iranians and, then, we'll all just get along

maybe the whole Iranian government is just a fringe group or maybe anyone who has a problem with it is an Islamaphobe:

"(Sept. 5) – An Iranian woman convicted of adultery who gained notoriety this past spring for an international campaign to halt her stoning execution has now been sentenced to 99 lashes.

Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani's photo has appeared several times in The Times newspaper of London, which first catapulted her case into global headlines. The publicity forced Iran to retract her stoning sentence, but fears remain that she might still be put to death.

Last weekend, The Times published a different photo purportedly of 43-year-old Ashtiani without a headscarf – a mandatory accessory for women under Iran's strict Islamic laws. Iran subsequently added 99 lashes to Ashtiani's sentence, accusing her of "spreading corruption and indecency," according to other inmates who've recently left the Tabriz prison where Ashtiani is being held. Those reports were confirmed by the woman's son."

September 05, 2010 10:53 AM  
Anonymous Merle said...

"...you may remember, in the campaign of 2008, how Barry said all we need to do is engage the Iranians and, then, we'll all just get along..."

He never said that, you moron.

September 05, 2010 11:02 AM  
Anonymous snidely whiplash said...

read a paper occasionally, Merle

you are badly misinformed

here's another big story:

"Democrats currently hold a slight majority of the nation's governor's seats but that balance of power is likely to shift dramatically after this year's midterm elections, according to a new forecast.

Polling analyst Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight.com projects, based on his projection model, that Republicans are on track to control approximately 30 governors' seats after November.

That's about the same result predicted by RealClearPolitics which projects that Republicans will end up with 32 seats.

Silver's forecast says the GOP is likely to do particularly well in the swing states of the Midwest.

There are six Republican governors running for re-election but the forecast rates the Democrats as underdogs in each of those races.

"Should the political momentum favor the Republicans this year, as seems likely, they have picked an auspicious time for it," Silver said. "This year's gubernatorial elections are unusually important because of the role that governors play in redistricting, the process of dividing the nation into 435 Congressional districts that occurs after each Census."

In four states where the redistricting stakes may be high because they are likely to lose seats -- Iowa, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania -- the Republicans are the favorites to win the governorship."

so, not only will we win but the win will allow us to lock in gains for years to come

the fate of the nation will be decided for a century in November

what a shame for Democrats that they had displayed their anti-Democratic, socialist agenda right beforehand

you won't be able to "deem and pass" the election!!

bad timing, guys

mwha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

September 05, 2010 11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"you won't be able to "deem and pass" the election!!"

Fact check: Deem and pass is a favorite tool of the GOP.

"Republicans set new records for deeming under Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.). There were 38 and 52 self-executing rules in the 104th and105th Congresses (1995-1998), making up 25 percent and 35 percent of all rules, respectively. Under Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) there were 40, 42 and 30 self-executing rules in the 106th, 107th and 108th Congresses (22 percent, 37 percent and 22 percent,
respectively). Republicans also don't care when their own rank hypocrisy is revealed in the "liberal media" -- when there are balanced reports, for example, that they used the same arcane rules with wild abandon when they controlled Congress. The Republican base will never learn about their own pols' hypocrisy because these voters have been trained to get their "news" exclusively from right-wing propaganda outlets like Fox News and hate radio, where untidy facts like these will never be mentioned. "

September 05, 2010 11:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Republicans pulled this same nonsense when they deliberately mislabeled "reconciliation" as "the nuclear option" a term coined in March 2003 by GOP Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist to describe a procedure for overcoming Democratic fillibusters of George W. Bush's extreme right-wing judicial nominees.

In fact, Republicans had used reconciliation three times as often as Democrats over the course of congressional history.

September 05, 2010 12:02 PM  
Anonymous the ump said...

Republicans used such maneuvers to expedite their work

Democrats did it to overcome the will of the American people

only 21% of the American people believe the government has the consent of the governed here in America in 2010

socialism can't wear its Halloween costume forever

the mask is off and we're throwing the bums out

September 05, 2010 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The world, "Anonymous" has come to a complete standstill awaiting your usual bigoted, ill-informed, and hate-filled responses. Enlighten us all, if you will, with your snarky, smirky, know-it-all teachings!

September 05, 2010 12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you must be one of the bums

September 05, 2010 1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aside from the sheer pleasure derived from hearing right-winger’s heads exploding all over America, this archived radio broadcast of a liberal Democrat by the name of Ronald Reagan campaigning for President Truman, as well as soon-to-be liberal lion Hubert H. Humphrey, presents an important lesson.

In the radio address, the Gipper is:

- For wage growth

- For Social Security

- For union and fair employment practices

- For school lunch programs

- Against tax cuts for the wealthy

- Against excessive corporate profits

And the money quote? “High prices have not been caused by higher wages, but by bigger and bigger profits.”

Wow, there you go again, Ronnie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJDhS4oUm0M&feature=player_embedded

September 05, 2010 3:43 PM  
Anonymous watching historical figures grow said...

actually, subsequently, Reagan became the president of a union

one of many experiences that led to him to see firsthand the threat of liberalism to America

and, baby, we don't have to guess the rest

thanks for sharing

September 05, 2010 4:17 PM  
Anonymous the pope should excommunicate Iran said...

(Sept. 5) -- The Vatican on Sunday suggested that it might work behind the scenes to try to dissuade Iran from executing a widow convicted of adultery.

September 05, 2010 4:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We know the rest all right. His political about face was brought on by pre-dementia that eventually developed into full-blown Alzheimer's disease that ran in his family.

September 05, 2010 5:22 PM  
Anonymous laughing at liberals said...

there you go again, TTF

I think you missed the part where he ended the Cold War and began an economic resurgence that lasted until the Democrats took the Congress in 2006

oh, and he stopped gay agenda and other anti-family groups and sent them reeling to such an extent that they couldn't get back on their feet for decades

not bad for a senile guy

September 05, 2010 5:28 PM  
Anonymous Liberal Laughing said...

And it was so heroic and bold the way he prevented the AIDS epidemic through direct, strong, unhesitating action.

September 05, 2010 5:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And who can forget this great thing the great communicator tried to pull:

The President called it at one point possible "bureaucratic sabotage." Chief Budget Cutter David Stockman conceded that Administration officials were left "with egg on their face." Both men were referring to proposed new regulations, announced by the Agriculture Department, for school lunch programs that would have classified catsup as a vegetable. The resulting furor forced the Administration into a hasty and embarrassing announcement that the rules were being recalled for redrafting. Even so, they remain in many minds a symbol of what critics see as the Reagan team's callous indifference to the poor.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,924901,00.html#ixzz0yh9u1Qq3

September 05, 2010 6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

China is still struggling to keep population growth under control. That is even despite its one-child policy. So what's a desperately overpopulated country to do? Why, import abstinence-only programs that have failed miserably in the United States, duh!

This is actually happening: The country's Yunnan province has struck a deal with none other than Focus on the Family to train teachers with its "No Apologies" curriculum. According to the Washington Post, the program "took two years for staff to translate into Chinese and another two years to pass through government regulations." (An early pilot of the program failed because officials objected to the virginity pledge, arguing that young people should "pledge to no one but the Communist Party.")

The curriculum focuses on the consequences of premarital sex -- because marital sex has no consequences! -- and gives pointers on how to resist pressure to get it on. The lines provided to girls include these gems: "I'm not like everyone else," "Do you want to bet my future on that condom?" and "If you want to celebrate our love, bring me roses at 7 p.m. and let's go to dinner."

The agreement between Focus on the Family and government officials requires that the program exclude all religious and political material -- which is pretty hilarious, since that's all the organization is about. The curriculum isn't based on science, medicine or actual provable facts, it's religious and political propaganda at its very core.

September 06, 2010 8:57 AM  
Anonymous November is morning in America said...

Ronald Reagan, who is destined for Mount Rushmore

but TTF thinks that's crazy because he didn't stop AIDS and his administration once suggested that tomato catsup was a vegetable

well, I have a feeling if Americans could, they'd the Gipper elect again today

without blinking

as far as AIDS goes, it really shouldn't have been a big priority since it's a disease that could have mostly been prevented by behavioral changes

don't engage in homosexual behavior and don't use intraveneous narcotics and you really don't have much to worry about

so, in Reagan's time, the question was: why waste a lot of taxpayers' money on it

later George W Bush greatly increased funding for humanitarian reasons to stop AIDS in Africa, where victimized prostitutes were contracting it in large numbers

gays in America, however, were only victims of their own excesses

btw, I thought Barry gave a big speech last week telling the American people how he has redecorated the Oval Office and ended the Iraq War:

"BAGHDAD (Sept. 5) -- Days after the U.S. officially ended combat operations and touted Iraq's ability to defend itself, American troops found themselves battling heavily armed militants assaulting an Iraqi military headquarters in the center of Baghdad on Sunday. The fighting killed 12 people and wounded dozens.

The first exchange of fire showed that American troops remaining in the country are still being drawn into the fighting."

September 06, 2010 9:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you spell hypocrite?

Govs. Pawlenty And McDonnell Apply For Abstinence-Only Funding From Health Law They Opposed

Two governors who were vocal opponents of health care reform are now requesting federal grants for abstinence-only education that are funded by that very same legislation.

Both Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) and Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) said they would not be applying for funds from the Personal Responsibility Education Program (PREP), which provides states with $55 million for comprehensive sex education programs. Instead, they applied for Title V funding, which has $50 million a year for states to implement abstinence-only education programs. Title V, funding, however, is also funded by the Affordable Care Act.

Pawlenty Communications Director Bruce Gordon explained that the reason the governor is not applying for the PREP funds is because he "opposes Obamacare and he is striving to find ways to stop its implementation in Minnesota."

September 06, 2010 9:07 AM  
Anonymous I like it like that said...

"China is still struggling to keep population growth under control. That is even despite its one-child policy. So what's a desperately overpopulated country to do? Why, import abstinence-only programs that have failed miserably in the United States, duh!"

Failed? Not exactly.

Comp sex ed and condom distribution have failed.

Schools that have tried comp sex ed and condom distribution haven't changed teens' behavior one iota

but a recent study shows abstinence programs can.

yes, we can

China is actually only the latest in a number of countries who have asked Focus on the Family to come in.

A Chinese delegation that visited the U.S. not long ago stopped at FoF headquarters in Colorado and said FoF's values match China's except for the religious message.

Isn't that odd when lunatic fringe groups like TTF say religion is the only reason for traditional sexual moral standards and use that assertion to try to push the gay agenda and condom demonstrations on America's youth?

"This is actually happening: The country's Yunnan province has struck a deal with none other than Focus on the Family to train teachers with its "No Apologies" curriculum."

now that we have a non-religious version, developed for Chinese atheists, we can begin to implement this curriculum in American public schools shortly after the purge of Democrats in November

we'll have a lot to be thankful for this Thanksgiving

"The curriculum focuses on the consequences of premarital sex -- because marital sex has no consequences!"

you have to wonder about the sad jackass who made this statement

"The curriculum isn't based on science, medicine or actual provable facts, it's religious and political propaganda at its very core."

actually, it's based on the scientific, medical, actually proveable fact that those who don't have sex before they're married, don't get preganant before they're married

abstinence is known for that

also, as our atheist acquaintances in China have now confirmed, sexual morality is not religious propaganda

once again, TTF loses

September 06, 2010 9:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With combat operations in Iraq coming to an end, most Americans believe the war is going well for the United States, a new CBS News survey finds. But nearly six in ten say it was a mistake to start the battle in the first place, and most say their country did not accomplish its objectives in Iraq.

Fifty-seven percent now say the war is going well for America, including majorities of Democrats, Republicans and independents. That reflects improved perceptions since July 2007, when just 22 percent said things were going well. Thirty-eight percent say things are going badly.

Thirty-five percent predict more violence in Iraq because of the troop withdrawal, while 60 percent say the violence will lessen or stay where it is now.

Asked who should get credit for how things are going in Iraq, one in three say both the Obama and Bush administrations.

Fifty-two percent approve of how President Obama is handing the situation in Iraq.

Americans are split on how the Iraqi people are feeling toward the United States at this point. Forty-one percent say most are feeling grateful, while 37 percent say they are feeling resentful.

The percentage of Americans who say America did the right thing in going to war in Iraq now stands at 37 percent. Fifty-nine percent say the war was a mistake, up from 55 percent in March of last year. While most Democrats and independents say the United States should not have gone to war, 63 percent of Republicans say it was the right thing to do.

Only one in five say the war was worth the loss of life and other costs that came with it. Seventy-two percent say the war was not worth it. The opinions of households with Iraq veterans mirror the opinions of all Americans on this question.

Twenty-five percent overall say the war has made the United States safer from terrorism, a drop of 11 percentage points since March of 2008. Eighteen percent say it has made American less safe, while most - 55 percent - say it has made no difference.

Fifty-one percent say the United States did not succeed in accomplishing its objectives in Iraq. Forty-one percent say it did succeed in doing so.

September 06, 2010 9:27 AM  
Anonymous TTF always shoots itself in the foot said...

"How do you spell hypocrite?

Govs. Pawlenty And McDonnell Apply For Abstinence-Only Funding From Health Law They Opposed

Two governors who were vocal opponents of health care reform are now requesting federal grants for abstinence-only education that are funded by that very same legislation."

that's hypocrisy?

by this logic, if you disagree with a tax bill, you are a hypocrite if you file your taxes

of course, calling that "logic" is quite a stretch

let's just call it "TTF thinkin'"

September 06, 2010 9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are all sorts of GOP hypocrites who have spoken out publicly against stimulus or health care funds and then privately requested funding from these sources to improve conditions in their home states, all the while trying to con voters in their home states into believing voting against funding for these projects is a good thing.

WARNING, FACTS AHEAD:

“I find it interesting that you have a lot of the Republicans running around and pushing back on the stimulus money and saying this doesn’t create any new jobs,” said Schwarzenegger, who has frequently criticized national Republicans, often on Sunday talk shows. “And then they go out and they do the photo ops and they are posing with the big check and they say, ‘Isn’t this great? Look what kind of money I provide here for the state.’ . . . It doesn’t match up.”

===
WSJ: After Voting No, Republicans Tout Funds

"Republicans railed against the Democrats' massive economic-stimulus and spending bills as fiscally irresponsible, but some GOP lawmakers are taking credit for projects in their own districts funded by the measures.

"Washington needs to stop spending money that it doesn't have," Michigan Republican Rep. Pete Hoekstra said in attacking the $410 billion omnibus-spending bill, which funds the government through September. But once it passed, he touted its benefits for his district, which stretches along Lake Michigan.

"Safe and navigable harbors are economic engines that drive the communities that surround them," Mr. Hoekstra declared, announcing $3 million for harbor improvements."

===

– Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), the NRCC leader who called the stimulus a “massive spending binge” and an “abject failure,” wrote three times to administration officials asking for four projects in Dallas. Sessions wrote that the stimulus projects will “create jobs in the region and improve the quality of life for North Texans.”

– Rep. Steve Buyer (R-IN), who called the stimulus a “sham,” wrote to Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood requesting $80 million in stimulus funds that he believed were “vital to the economic health of North Central Indiana.” At the end of the letter, Buyer wrote, “Ray, I appreciate your personal attention. Steve.”

– Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), along with Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC), fought for stimulus highway funds for I-73 in South Carolina. According to letters obtained by Bloomberg, Graham proclaimed that the stimulus project would “create 5,789 jobs.” Graham apparently sent “a dozen” similar pitches for stimulus funds. Even though the stimulus contained one of the largest middle class tax cuts in modern history, Graham had called the stimulus a “failure” for focusing on spending instead of tax cuts.

September 06, 2010 10:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the GOP's rising star Jan Brewer who makes AZ sound like a state where beheadings are common in the desert and that Arizonians live in fear because of them. Then she acts all upset when organizations cancel planned meetings in her terrorized-by-beheadings state! Why should organizations risk the beheading of their guests by holding meetings in AZ with the crime spree Jan Brewer imagines is happening there?

WARNING, MORE FACTS AHEAD: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), the violent crime rate in Arizona was lower in 2006, 2007, and 2008 -- the most recent year from which data are available -- than any year since 1983. The property crime rate in Arizona was lower in 2006, 2007, and 2008 than any year since 1968. In addition, in Arizona, the violent crime rate dropped from 577.9 per 100,000 population in 1998 to 447 per 100,000 population in 2008; the property crime rate dropped from 5,997 to 4,291 during the same period. During the same decade, Arizona's undocumented immigrant population grew rapidly. The Arizona Republic reported: "Between January 2000 and January 2008, Arizona's undocumented population grew 70 percent, according to the DHS [Department of Homeland Security] report. Nationally, it grew 37 percent."

Further, crime rates have dropped during past decade in other border states. The BJS data further show that violent crime rates and property crime rates in California, New Mexico, and Texas dropped from 1998 through 2008 -- the most recent year from which data are available:

In California, the violent crime rate dropped from 703.7 in 1998 to 503.8 in 2008; the property crime rate dropped from 3,639.1 to 2,940.3 during the same period.

In New Mexico, the violent crime rate dropped from 961.4 in 1998 to 649.9 in 2008; the property crime rate dropped from 5,757.7 to 3,909.2 over the same period.

In Texas, the violent crime rate dropped from 564.6 in 1998 to 507.9 in 2008; the property crime rate dropped from 4,547 to 3,985.6 over the same period.

===

GOP Governor Jan Brewer tells lies about the supposed crime spree of beheadings in the desert to scare voters into supporting her racist views against Hispanics for purely political reasons.

September 06, 2010 10:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Isn't that odd when lunatic fringe groups like TTF say religion is the only reason for traditional sexual moral standards and use that assertion to try to push the gay agenda and condom demonstrations on America's youth?"

What's odd is considering China's one child policy enforced by forced abortions "traditional sexual moral standards."

September 06, 2010 10:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A former treasurer of the National Republican Congressional Committee admitted in court Friday that he stole more than $844,000 from the NRCC and several other political fundraising committees.

Christopher J. Ward, 41, formerly of Bethesda, pleaded guilty in federal court in the District to interstate transportation of stolen property. Under the plea agreement, prosecutors will seek a 37-month prison term and Ward will have to pay back his victims.

Ward, once a trusted figure in Republican circles who had served as treasurer for 83 GOP committees in a decade, funneled the money from committee coffers over seven years, according to the plea agreement. Some of the cash went to mortgage payments and remodeling and landscaping at his Bethesda home, authorities said in court documents filed in 2008.

September 06, 2010 11:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander of the Afghanistan War, said today the planned burning of Korans by a Florida church could put American troops in danger.

"It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort," Petraeus told the Wall Street Journal. "It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems. Not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community."

Petraeus' comments come in the wake of anti-American protests in Kabul. Earlier today, 500 demonstrators, including members of parliament and Muslim clerics, gathered outside the U.S. embassy to condemn the "International Burn A Koran Day" planned by the Dove World Outreach Center, a small church in Florida. Protesters burned the church's pastor, Terry Jones, in effigy and called for "Death to America."

A similar protest, reportedly attracting thousands of Muslims, was held this weekend in Jakarta, Indonesia.

Petraeus said the Koran-burning, planned for Sept. 11, could give the Taliban the kind of anti-American propaganda they can exploit to turn fellow Afghans against the U.S. military.

Jones has vowed to go forward with his plan to burn Korans despite public outcry both locally and nationwide. He could not immediately be reached for comment.

===

Here’s what’s been lost in all the screaming. The prime movers in the campaign against the “ground zero mosque” just happen to be among the last cheerleaders for America’s nine-year war in Afghanistan. The wrecking ball they’re wielding is not merely pounding Park51, as the project is known, but is demolishing America’s already frail support for that war, which is dedicated to nation-building in a nation whose most conspicuous asset besides opium is actual mosques.

So virulent is the Islamophobic hysteria of the neocon and Fox News right — abetted by the useful idiocy of the Anti-Defamation League, Harry Reid and other cowed Democrats — that it has also rendered Gen. David Petraeus’s last-ditch counterinsurgency strategy for fighting the war inoperative. How do you win Muslim hearts and minds in Kandahar when you are calling Muslims every filthy name in the book in New York?

You’d think that American hawks invested in the Afghanistan “surge” would not act against their own professed interests. But they couldn’t stop themselves from placing cynical domestic politics over country. The ginned-up rage over the “ground zero mosque” was not motivated by a serious desire to protect America from the real threat of terrorists lurking at home and abroad — a threat this furor has in all likelihood exacerbated — but by the potential short-term rewards of winning votes by pandering to fear during an election season.

September 07, 2010 7:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/performance_places/state/MD

This website shows the list of stimulus dollars to be spent to bring shovel ready and other needed jobs to the great state of Maryland. There's also a link that will show job bringing projects across the state by city.

"The total of cost of all the projects submitted by Maryland is $3,167,410,718.85.

Please note: Statistics update every 10 minutes"

September 07, 2010 7:48 AM  
Anonymous dog star said...

Labor Day words from Barack Obama:

Kicking off what has traditionally been considered the official fall campaign season, Obama said: "Some powerful interests in Washington, they're not always happy with me. They talk about me like a dog."

September 07, 2010 8:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander of the Afghanistan War, said today the planned burning of Korans by a Florida church could put American troops in danger."

unfortunately, our whole way of life puts our troops in danger because we live in a loose and liberal society which offends Islamic principles

but, I would ask those complaining about this Koran burning demonstration, what are you suggesting we do about it?

I personally would not directly insult someone else's religious beliefs, mainly because I wouldn't want to create an impediment to their ever considering what I consider true, but this group has chosen to express their disagreement with Islamic ideals this way

are we supposed to outlaw the Koran burning?

should we lock them up?

it's a pastor with a congregation of fifty

that's fifty out of 300 million Americans

so, we need to control the speech of all 300 million Americans to appease Muslims but we are supposed to understand that the millions who sympathize with bin Laden don't represent all Muslims?

what sense does that make?

maybe the media, who magnifies the activities of the most sensational, is the real problem

if the Muslim street thinks this group represents all Americans, isn't it the media that lead them to believe that?

September 07, 2010 10:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon, I will point out that fewer than 50 Muslims were involved in 9/11, yet many Americans base their opinions of all Muslims on the actions of those few.

September 07, 2010 10:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MCPD is requesting assistance in the location of the following person potentially involved in a domestic dispute.

Wanted suspect: Joshua Prince
white male
age 32

May have fled in a 2004 black Chevy Tahoe
MD tag 27992M5

Person should be considered armed and dangerous

No one should approach this suspect, call 911 if vehicle is seen.=

September 07, 2010 10:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anon, I will point out that fewer than 50 Muslims were involved in 9/11, yet many Americans base their opinions of all Muslims on the actions of those few."

for one thing, millions of Muslims, albeit, nowhere near a majority, supported those fifty

you may remember that the Palestinians were passing out candy to children in the streets to celebrate on Septmeber 11 and the rulers of Afghanistan protected the planners of this terrorist act

and Palestinians are supported by Muslims universally

but, more importantly, is the tremendous difference between the acts

killing three thousand innocent people vs. destroying a couple of copies of a book

if we're dealing with a society that will go into riots and violence over such a thing, we need to watch our backs anyway

all societies are not morally equivalent

we aren't basing our "opinions of all Muslims on the actions of those few", we are basing it on the clear danger, now confirmed by all sides, that burning a book will cause a violent upheval

could you imagine us reacting similarly if someone in Mecca decided to burn a Bible?

no, because all societies aren't morally equivalent

wake up

September 07, 2010 11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for one thing, millions of Americans, albeit, nowhere near a majority, supported those idiots who are going to burn the Koran

If a bunch of Arabs got together and had a big fire to burn Bibles in one of their cities, you're damn right there'd be rioting in the streets here and calls for war and everything else

September 07, 2010 11:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right, moron.

How soon they forget that we PRE-EMPTIVELY INVADED IRAQ and killed more than 100,000 Iraqis.

We're WORSE than they are!

September 07, 2010 11:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If a bunch of Arabs got together and had a big fire to burn Bibles in one of their cities, you're damn right there'd be rioting in the streets here and calls for war and everything else"

that's an ignorant lie

in Arab countries, they couldn't do that because they've already destroyed all Bibles and anyone found possessing one would be killed

moreover, it was done by the government there, whereas, here, the government couldn't and wouldn't confiscate Korans

these guys in Florida are going to burn Korans that they are in their possession

anyone who stole someone else's Koran, or any other book, would be arrested

if the Saudis did uncover a Bible and burn it, we wouldn't riot

we'd simply find a way to smuggle in more Bibles and keep them away from the government there

"How soon they forget that we PRE-EMPTIVELY INVADED IRAQ and killed more than 100,000 Iraqis."

actually, Hussein invaded a neighboring country and used WMD on a minority population in Iraq

after intervening against these crimes, we signed a peace treaty with Hussein which he systematically violated over a number of years and repeatedly fired on our aircraft

when we threw out Hussein, the population rejoiced and his neighbors didn't complain and troops from around the world helped because Hussein had tried to convince everyone he was devloping WMD

how's that pre-emptive?

September 07, 2010 12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bush/Cheney touted *WMD in Iraq" lies just like Jan Brewer touts "headless corpses in the desert" lies. Bush/Cheney went so far as to blow the cover of an active undercover CIA operative when her husband revealed the truth behind their "yellow cake" based WMD lies.

Fear-mongering is the Grand Old Tea Party's preferred GOTV tool to get themselves elected. Then they give tax breaks to all the rich and bankrupt government so we can't help our own citizens who need it.

How many services has AZ cancelled now that Jan Brewer has "balanced the budget?" I hope Jan Brewer's criminally insane son has some paid up health insurance to cover his mental health treatments because the state his mother is Governor of is cutting services left and right. If Brewer's son is in prison he may not be getting treatment at all. And if he's in jail in certain AZ jurisdictions, male prisoners like him are forced to wear pink underpanties and live in tents in the desert. It's enough to make a person wonder how many headless corpses show up near those prisoners' tents and what color their underpanties are.

September 07, 2010 12:19 PM  
Anonymous maybe Brewer will be Palin's VP said...

oh, brother

every intelligence agency in the world believed Saddam had WMD

that's because he tried to make everyone think that

he was also hard at work trying to get rid of inspecters so he could resume his work on WMD without hindrance

fear-mongering is how Obama got elected

anytime he proposes anything, he always portrayed the consequences of not supporting it as catastrophic

don't know why you're so obsessed with the Arizona governor's race but, if you have some stake, you might want to get used to her

she's up 20 points in the latest polls

her support of the reasonable law that Obama is fighting is the main reason

Democrats can't help themselves

they're just losers

September 07, 2010 2:23 PM  
Anonymous liberals have declared war on Palin said...

The October issue of Vanity Fair's 10,000-plus biased word story on Sarah Palin contains a mistake.

Under growing pressure, Writer Michael Joseph Gross acknowledged to the Associated Press that he tried to confuse Palin's infant son, Trig, with another baby, who suffers from Down syndrome, at a rally in Independence, Mo.

Politico first disclosed Gross's false statement that a child who was the son of conservative activist Gina Loudon was instead Trig.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch's blog Political Fix reported that Loudon told Gross during the event that the child in the stroller was her son, Samuel. Loudon explained, "When I grabbed Samuel and walked past the stage, he said, 'Oh, are you the nanny?' And I said, 'No, I'm not the nanny; I'm the mother.' "

Gina Loudon said, "I told him that. And he ignored it. It's not even like he didn't fact check -- he just ignored facts."

In a statement to the AP, Gross admitted that he misreported the facts. "Trig was with his mother the next day in Wichita, but the child in Independence was someone else, and I regret the error," he said.

September 07, 2010 5:14 PM  
Anonymous al franken said...

nyuck-nyuck-nyuck

I can't for THE ELECTION!!

I gonna make faces at the big Democrat victory celebration for the entertainment of the crowd!

Yes, we can again!!

All the Republicans are lying liars who lie!

Americans will never vote for them!!!

We are....Democrats!!

September 07, 2010 5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"every intelligence agency in the world believed Saddam had WMD"

And then the US sent Ambassador Joe Wilson to Niger to check out the yellow cake story and he reported his findings that it was bogus. So what did the Bush/Cheney regime do with that information they asked for? They ignored it and tried to discredit Ambassador Wilson, outing his undercover CIA agent wife to do so. They wanted to believe the bad intelligence and stuck to it for years after it had been shown to be bad intelligence.

If we put the GOP back in power, we can expect more of the same BS. The GOP has said NO to every solution to our problems, preferring the status quo. All they can call for is more of the same Bush policies that got us into this deep recession and yet they expect a different outcome.

They're even talking about shutting down the government again because they believe their own lies that shutting down the government worked for them in 95 and 96. They seem to forget that President Dole did not come to be!

"Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - Miller says he wants government ‘transition’ out of Social Security

In a TV interview with Fox Business News Thursday, host David Asman asked Senate candidate Joe Miller what parts of government he would “remove” first if he makes it to the U.S. Senate.

“But out of the gate, Joe, what do you start with? Healthcare?” said Asman.

“Oh, absolutely. Defund it. I mean a repeal would be perfect but obviously that would get vetoed. So defund everything. Get rid of the socialist aspects of government, not just in health care but the other entitlement areas that are driving us into insolvency,” Miller said.

Miller went on to say that Congress should have the “courage to shut down the government,” if necessary, to eliminate government programs.

On anyone’s list, the entitlement programs that could drive the nation to “insolvency” in the decades ahead are topped by Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which make up about 40 percent of the federal budget."

I wonder how well seniors, the GOP's biggest voting block, are going to like the GOTP after their Social Security and Medicare get defunded, don't you!

September 08, 2010 8:46 AM  

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