Sunday, August 28, 2011

Sunday Morning After the Big Storm

This morning the street is littered with chips of debris, something must have happened while I slept. There isn't much of a wind shaking the trees at this hour but limbs are swaying spastically, off and on. It is not raining, though everything outside is wet.

A Fox business show invited an atheist on to find out how atheists prepare for a hurricane. I can't figure out how to embed it but you can see the video HERE. The panelists get very upset. The atheist says he would prepare for the hurricane by buying candles, checking his flashlights, having a plan, and having a backup plan. Even though the others believe that God did not send the hurricane and cannot stop it, they defend the practice of praying that it will not harm them. Apparently that is comforting to them. The atheist notes that heroin is also comforting to people, which, not surprisingly, offends them. The Fox panelists appear to feel that they are the ones making sense in this interview, there is smugness all the way around the table.

I see that three million people along the East Coast lost their power last night. I am glad to say that we aren't among them. Looking at Facebook I see a number of people in Montgomery County are in the dark, including County Councilman Marc Elrich, who lives over in Takoma Park. That probably wasn't your best move, Pepco, the CC got a little upset last time the electricity went out, as I recall, this is just going to provoke them again. Well, what can they do? I saw Pepco crews trimming the branches from the power lines this week, knowing that a big storm was coming, somebody told me they saw crews from Pennsylvania helping them, I heard radio ads where Pepco was saying they're going to do everything they can, promising to do better this time. I think they know people have reached a limit with them, but you'd have to change the entire corporate culture to get things to work right, and that isn't likely to happen.

Of course Facebook isn't the best place to find out that people have lost their electricity. Some people post from their cell phones, but a lot of people can't get to it without power.

Oh by the way, something a little off-topic but tangential. We have a Verizon landline phone, and it has always been staticky but a couple of weeks ago it just went dead, right when the strike began. Four different times, crews of managers filling in for real workers came to our house and tested things. Some of them went up in cherry-pickers and looked at the boxes, but some didn't try very hard. One lady said, "I'm sixty-two years old, I'm not climbing up that pole, would you?" The last guy spent hours up there and left, puzzled, he said he could get the signal at the next box two blocks away but it wasn't getting to the box on the pole outside my house.

Finally the strike ended and an actual Verizon worker came out. I told him what they'd said and where they said the problem was and he laughed. He was polite about it but there was a bit of a chuckle. He pointed to a different pole on the other side of the house. "That's where your line comes from," he said. Fifteen minutes later he showed me a two-inch piece of cable that had eroded, the insulation was cracked and the wire had finally broken. He had snipped it out and spliced the cable back together. Now the phone works perfectly, there is not even static on the line. I suppose it was brave of Verizon to send out managers during the strike, and they seemed like nice enough people, but we really needed somebody who knew what they were doing. Verizon makes plenty of money, they ought to take care of their workers.

I just looked at the Doppler radar and you can see that the last band is just about to pass us. The weatherman says it will be sunny later.

We've seen some hurricanes in this region, and at least in my neighborhood this was not the worst one. We got a lot of rain, and by the bits of branches and leaves in the street I'd say we probably had some gusts of wind during the night. I have seen times when trees in the woods across the street were snapping like firecrackers, when high winds were sustained for hours, this one wasn't like that, at least where we live.

Today we will clean up and put things back where they were, those who live in the flooded areas will wait for the water to go down and then they will clean up and put things back where they were, if trees are down somebody will cut them up, if the power is out somebody will hook it up again eventually. So far they say eleven people have been killed by the storm, eleven families will not go back to the way things were the day before yesterday. Three million people have no electricity, I'm sure millions more have damage that they need to deal with today. A gigantic storm has come through our neighborhoods, it has passed on and soon we will resume our normal lives, more or less. I can already see the sun getting brighter out there.

15 Comments:

Anonymous David S. Fishback said...

Our power came back on a few minutes ago. Lost some frozen food and two big limbs from a tree in the backyard, but that was about it. Is it possible that the PEPCO corporate culture has changed? Maybe. Let's hope so. As I understand it, there were huge power outages, and they appeared to get on it rather efficiently. I hope my understanding of the response is correct.

As to the Fox Business News segment on atheism and hurricanes, I think it illustrates why it is rather silly for those who are atheists to engage in these sorts of discussions. The nature or even the existence of God may not be provable, but if it brings solace to people, it is not useful to seek to shake that solace.

Christopher Hitchens' argument -- which I understand to be that religion brings so much other baggage with it, that it does more harm than good -- is interesting but ultimately not a prescription for effective living. Instead, we should stress the humane aspects of religion (and they are legion) and work to move past the negative baggage. That is something to remember on the 48th Anniversay of Dr. King's speech/sermon on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, which is a wonderful example of religion at its best.

August 28, 2011 6:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our power went out about 1 a.m. while we were having a small hurricane party mixing up cocktails we found online for the occassion. The rum-passion fruit-lime-grenadine concoction was my favorite. Lights came back around ten this morning. We had to take several detours on-route to church and the church service was held in the dark but the power came back while we were still fellowshipping.

"The atheist says he would prepare for the hurricane by buying candles, checking his flashlights, having a plan, and having a backup plan."

I'm a Christian and I'd do likewise although I never took this one too seriously. The media was really in rare form hyping this.

"Even though the others believe that God did not send the hurricane and cannot stop it, they defend the practice of praying that it will not harm them."

There's actually a New Testament verse that says God sends rain on both the righteous and the wicked. God is sovereign and sent the hurricane and can stop it.

That's not to say he will.

People who only pray when there is danger looming are missing out. The point of prayer is to fellowship with and unify with God. That's a beautiful thing in and of itself. Additionally, if you love God, you can count on his blessing but it won't look like anything a non-believer would recognize and you may well wind up dying in a natural disaster.

"Apparently that is comforting to them."

It ought to be but, hopefully they don't pray only when hurricanes are coming.

"The atheist notes that heroin is also comforting to people, which, not surprisingly, offends them."

Isn't that just a restatement of Marx?: "religion is the opiate of the masses"

Atheism not only is not a comfort for the future but a negative force in our present world, judging by the its fruit in societies that have embraced it.

"The Fox panelists appear to feel that they are the ones making sense in this interview, there is smugness all the way around the table."

Didn't see the show but, if these people were Christians, smugness is not appropriate.

On the other, I've talked to a lot of pretty smug atheists.

"We've seen some hurricanes in this region, and at least in my neighborhood this was not the worst one."

I agree. Nowhere close.

"The nature or even the existence of God may not be provable,"

not empirically but God's existence can be rationally deduced

"but if it brings solace to people, it is not useful to seek to shake that solace"

Wouldn't natural selection favor those who struggle against the elements rather than those who lean on a non-existent God?

If evolution has produced a man who tends to believe in God, could that be because believing in God confers an advantage?

"Christopher Hitchens' argument -- which I understand to be that religion brings so much other baggage with it, that it does more harm than good -- is interesting but ultimately not a prescription for effective living."

As is demonstrated by the fact that he couldn't make it to a lecturn without a glass of bourbon in his hand. I think he brushes his teeth with the stuff.

He has issues and all Christians are praying for him in this hour, including his brother.

"Instead, we should stress the humane aspects of religion (and they are legion) and work to move past the negative baggage."

Sexual morality is actually not negative, despite what some posters here believe.

"That is something to remember on the 48th Anniversay of Dr. King's speech/sermon on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial,"

the MLK worship is getting to be a bit much at this point

he was a good speaker and we all owe him a debt for accomplishing his goals without resorting to violence

but the memorial in the company of Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln is just ridiculous

August 28, 2011 9:06 PM  
Anonymous David S. Fishback said...

Anon writes:

"Sexual morality is actually not negative, despite what some posters here believe."

I believe sexual morality is very important. Sex is a very potent thing, and ought to be focused on loving, long term, monogamous relationships. Where we differ is that you apparently would exclude gay people from this construct.

Anon further writes:

"the MLK worship is getting to be a bit much at this point. . . but the memorial in the company of Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln is just ridiculous"

I could not disagree more. Slavery was the congenital defect in the birth of America. As Jefferson (that amazing amalgam of democratic vision and hypocrisy) wrote about slavery, "I tremble for my nation when I remember that God is just." It ate at the American psyche and led to a bloody Civil War in the 19th Century. Within a generation of the end of that War, it reconsitituted itself in the hurtful discrimination of segregation and apartheid. Dr. King's genius was his leadership of a non-violent movement that entirely changed the psyche of the nation, and made racial discrimination socially and politically unacceptable -- and did it by forcing, non-violently, the nation to face up to the contradiction between its founding ethos and slavery and its successor doctrines. This was virtually unprecedented in human history: A true revolution made by people without force of arms.

The monuments along the Potomac now include those to Thomas Jefferson -- who set forth in glorious language the basis for the American Revolution (notwithstanding his own status as a slave owner); George Washington -- who led the necessary military struggle against the British and then was the glue that held the nascent country together in the aftermath of the Revolution (and in his later years faced up to the immorality of slavery, freeing his slaves upon the deaths of himself and his wife); Abraham Lincoln -- who led the struggle to abolish slavery; Franklin Roosevelt -- whose leadership saved the American economic system from slipping into fascism or communism, and then led us in the war against Nazi cruelty and Japanese expansionism (but could only snip around the edges of American racism); the veterans of World War II, who bore the physical brunt of that war -- a war which at one level illustrated the disconnect between American ideals and the racial reality in its own land; and now, Martin Luther King, who brought America face-to-face with its congential defect and did more than even Lincoln to excise that defect -- in a way that was more revolutionary and humane than force of arms.

To quote Lincoln in a different, but related, context, "it is altogether fitting and proper" that we should do this.

August 28, 2011 9:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

on the MLK matter, I think it's a bit much but thanks for your thoughts and maybe I'm just a grouch

rock on, David

August 28, 2011 11:26 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Bad anonymous tries to hide another one of his off-topic screeds in a comment that starts on-topic. Please put an end to these off-topic cut and pastes.

August 29, 2011 12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nasty Priya, your assault on open discussion is sad

buck up and participate or shut up and don't

but stop trying to eliminate speech you can't agree with or refute

people disagree with you

get over it

August 29, 2011 3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here's one of those stories Priya likes so much:

"The AP has moved some cross-tabs on President Obama from its latest poll, and they signal some low points with his 2008 coalition as the GOP moves closer to picking a general election candidate.

He's lost ground according to the AP-GfK data, with white voters, women, liberals and younger voters.

The key figures are:

* Just 36 percent of white voters approve of the job he's doing, while 59 percent say he should lose in November 2012. He is upside-down with this group in every region except the Northeast.

* Three in ten white independents say he should get a second term, and only 41 percent of them say he "understands the problems of people like them."

* Only 29 percent of liberals who say Obama is "very well" described as a "strong leader."

* Women, who had fueled a gender gap for the president with 68 percent approving of his performance after his first three months in office, are also moving away from him. Less than half of all women approve of how he's doing in office."

ouch!!!

August 29, 2011 4:04 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Bad anonymous as soon as I see your comment is off-topic I stop reading. I will not reward your bad behavior with the attention you so desperately crave, I strongly advise others to act in the same way. Let's not let bad anonymous make this his personal blog. I encourage all readers to appeal to Jim to delete comments which have no relevance to what he's posted.

August 29, 2011 7:37 PM  
Anonymous never mind said...

"Bad anonymous as soon as I see your comment is off-topic I stop reading"

oh look, an example of an untestable hypothesis

nasty Priya says she doesn't read my posts but who can prove it?

"I will not reward your bad behavior with the attention you so desperately crave"

well, thank heaven someone is standing up for right and wrong

"I strongly advise others to act in the same way"

well, if you're going to give STRONG advice, who can not take it?

kinda like an offer we can't refuse

just keep nasty Priya away from your racehorses

"Let's not let bad anonymous make this his personal blog"

yes, because united we stand

then, we can unify to make this nasty Priya's personal blog

"I encourage all readers to appeal to Jim to delete comments which have no relevance to what he's posted"

and if that doesn't work, maybe you can appeal to Congress to pass a constitutional amendment outlawing speech by me

I'd be very honored

how many people can say they have their own Constitutional amendment?

btw, I hate to bring this up, but, is nasty priya's comment OFFTOPIC?!?!?

August 29, 2011 9:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous" - we have become increasingly nauseated by your verbal diarrhea. What you think is "dialogue" is nothing more than ego-stroking screeds on your part.
Priya Lynn refers to you as "bad "Anonymous". Perhaps you should be called "sad Annonymous"!

August 30, 2011 10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sick anonymous

your comment about anon's responses to nasty Priya is off-topic and should not be repeated

let's have order, people

August 30, 2011 4:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"nauseated by your verbal diarrhea"

look at that

using fecal metaphors like a TTF pro

August 30, 2011 9:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in upper NJ yesterday. Tons of roads are closed due to flooding - it certainly appears they were hit worse than we were...

and the trains were not running because of trees on the line. any commercial company would have emailed you that your train was cancelled. Amtrak - no, the let you show up, park, and try get your prepaid ticket before letting you know that the train is not running....and then try to charge you for parking after you have wasted an hour on the useless exercise.

Has the govt ever tried to sell Amtrak to a private industry ? wondering if this is just not a profitable business or it is govt mismanagement again...

August 31, 2011 9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whenever the govt owns something, the relationship changes

the workers are no longer hustling to serve the needs of customers but instead feel they are authority figures supervising those who use the services

enterprises based in the first function well, the latter not so much

thus, the folly of socialism

August 31, 2011 9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a comedian you are, "Anonymous"...we never could have guessed that you have a sense of humor to match your concern for the welfare of humanity! ("using fecal metaphors like a TTF pro")

It seems that you, more than once, have alluded to "fecal matters" in your endlessly profuse posts. Is that some sort of fetish for you?

You didn't refute the underlying point of the use of the phrase, however.

Perhaps you should give some reconsideration to your attemps to pirate this blog site.

September 01, 2011 1:02 PM  

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