Sunday, July 14, 2013

Zimmerman Acquitted



71 Comments:

Anonymous Racism is over, right? said...

"Fruitvale Station" and The Weinstein Company's Push for Social Justice

"...Just after midnight on January 1, 2009, Oakland resident Oscar Grant was riding home from San Francisco on the BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit), when he became involved in an altercation. The train stopped at Fruitvale Station and transit officers responded to the scene. While attempting to restrain Grant, officer Johannes Mehserle shot him in the back. A few hours later, Grant, the 22-year-old father of a 4-year-old girl, died at Highland Hospital.

Numerous cell phone users captured the scene and uploaded their videos. Bay Area residents were incensed and protests erupted. Officer Mehserle later testified that instead of grabbing a Taser, he mistakenly grabbed his gun. Mehserle was charged with murder, but a jury only found him guilty of involuntary manslaughter. He was releases after 11 months in prison.

The story of Oscar Grant left a painful scar on the Bay Area, and a literal one on the floor tile where he was killed. During filming of Fruitvale Station, actor Michael B. Jordon, who plays Grant, found a bullet hole where Grant was shot. "I remember putting my chest to the hole and being scared while I was shooting that scene," he told the L.A. Times. The hole was later filled by BART officials, but Jordan told the paper, "There's energy at that spot—people know it and what happened there. And oftentimes, people won't stand at that end of the platform."

Director Ryan Coogler helms this story of Grant's final day, and included in his retelling is a brutally visceral recreation of what happened that New Year's morning on the platform.

Coogler grew up near Oakland, and at the time of the shooting he was home on break from film school. He recently told the New York Times, "When we saw that happen to Oscar, and we saw it on video, it was like the wind getting knocked out of us. I was questioning who we were as a community." Soon after the shooting, Coogler decided to make the film.

It's beautifully and subtly acted by Jordon, Melonie Diaz (playing Grant's girlfriend and mother of his daughter), and Octavia Spencer (playing Grant's mother). Meanwhile, the other cast members come across so natural and real it's as if we're peeping through a key hole at a real family in the kitchen. This level of comfort makes Grant's death feel personal, leaving you rooting for his survival in the midst of a painful awareness that history had other plans.

But after years of anger and tension in the Bay Area, The Weinstein Company, which purchased Fruitvale Station for $2.5 million at Sundance earlier this year, is using it as an opportunity.

As stated in big bold letters at the top of the post-screening business cards, they're inviting everyone to "Commit to end social injustice in the name of Oscar Grant." (A fitting sentiment, although the enticement of winning a gift card is jarring in this context.) The film's website encourages visitors to share stories of overcoming prejudice, bullying, social injustice or mistreatment with their "I AM __" campaign. And of course they're taking to social networking, such as this recent Instagram photo. Wish them luck. They'll need it."


Here's the trailer.

July 14, 2013 1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

completely off topic, but had to share this .

Canadian editorial humor directed at US
Canadian's Version of David Letterman's Top 10 This is Canada's Top Ten List of America's Stupidity.

Of course we look like idiots … because we are …

10) Only in America ... could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000.00 a plate campaign fund-raising event.

9) Only in America ... could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when they have a black President, a black Attorney General and
roughly 20% of the federal workforce is black while only 14% of the population is black. 40% of all federal entitlements go to black Americans – 3X the rate that go to whites, 5X the rate that go to Hispanics!

8) Only in America ... could they have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, TimothyGeithner (the head of the Treasury Department) and Charles Rangel (who
once ran the Ways and Means Committee), BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

7) Only in America ... can they have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash.

6) Only in America ... would they make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for
the privilege, while they discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just 'magically' become American citizens.

5) Only in America ... could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as "extremists."

4) Only in America ... could you need to present a driver's license to cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote.

3) Only in America ... could people demand the government investigate whether oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when the return on equity
invested in a major U.S. oil company (Marathon Oil) is less than half of a company making tennis shoes (Nike).

2) Only in America ... could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation in recorded history, still spend a Trillion dollars more than it has
per year - for total spending of $7-Million PER MINUTE, and complain that it doesn't have nearly enough money.

1) Only in America ... could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at
all.

July 14, 2013 1:22 PM  
Anonymous Back on topic said...

Go pollute some other blog with your bullshit.

Best tweeted reaction to the verdict:

"Michael Moore ✔ @MMFlint

Had a gun-toting Trayvon Martin stalked an unarmed George Zimmerman, and then shot him to death... DO I EVEN NEED TO COMPLETE THIS SENTENCE?
10:43 PM - 13 Jul 2013"

July 14, 2013 1:28 PM  
Anonymous Don't let the door hit you on the way out! said...

Well then maybe you'd be happier in Canada.

But you will still be uninformed.

That "Canadian editorial humor" piece, as you called it, was plagiarized from an opinion piece written by American citizen and conservative, John Hawkins in April of 2012 for Townhall "a web-based publication and a print magazine, primarily dedicated to conservative United States politics," and he listed 20 "ironies" as he called them, not just 10.

July 14, 2013 1:40 PM  
Anonymous innlgo967 said...

"Go pollute some other blog with your bullshit."

never an argument, only an insult

that's 21st century liberalism

a bankrupt philosophy

btw, there was trial in the Trayvon murder trial

they came to a different decision than the one you fantasized about

get over it

July 15, 2013 12:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barack Obama:

"we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken"

July 15, 2013 6:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Barack Obama:

"we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken""


I'm sure he thanks you for your continued support.

Let's all work together to get Congress to rewrite and help Obama [with his] vow to fight to restore Voting Rights Act to protect against current Jim Crow type laws that are being written and enacted in some states.

No doubt you want to help President Obama ensure every US citizen's right to vote, regardless of race, is equally protected in every state.

July 15, 2013 8:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama's full statement on the verdict:

""The death of Trayvon Martin was a tragedy. Not just for his family, or for any one community, but for America. I know this case has elicited strong passions. And in the wake of the verdict, I know those passions may be running even higher. But we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken. I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son. And as we do, we should ask ourselves if we’re doing all we can to widen the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities. We should ask ourselves if we’re doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis. We should ask ourselves, as individuals and as a society, how we can prevent future tragedies like this. As citizens, that’s a job for all of us. That’s the way to honor Trayvon Martin.""

July 15, 2013 9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trayvon Martin, and each of us by proxy, has been weighed in the balances and found guilty of his own murder. The sentence is death without parole.

July 15, 2013 10:56 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

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July 15, 2013 12:24 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I think Zimmerman was probably guilty of murder but the jury made the decision they should have given the evidence presented to them.

With no witnesses and precious little to refute Zimmerman's claim of self defense there was not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty of murder.

I know many of us wanted to see him convicted and I believe a guilty man is probably going free but if the a justice system lowers the bar to allow conviction of someone like Zimmerman that would result in many more innocent people being convicted in other trials down the road.

I'm a believer in the old adage that its better 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person be convicted. Unfortunately in the U.S. many republicans operate under the delusion that its better to set the bar so low that many innocent people are convicted because then no guilty person will go free. Witness the utter evil of Texas governor Rick Perry who stunningly insisted that of the 200 or so people executed during his term he has no concern whatsoever that any of them were innocent.

That's Republicans for you - the government is so incompetent that it should be shrunk until its small enough to drown in a bathtub, except when it comes to the justice system and then the government is infallible. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

If Treyvon Martin had been white and Zimmerman black Republicans would have been outraged by this verdict and would be demanding changes to the justice system that would lower the bar for guilty verdicts so there'd be even more innocent people on death row. Let's not be like them and base our appraisal of this trial performance on the colour of the defendant's and victim's skin.

July 15, 2013 12:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marissa Alexander fired a warning shot inside her home when her husband's threatening behavior caused her to fear violence from him. Her bullet lodged in a wall and injured no one. This black woman was not allowed by her Florida trial judge to invoke the stand your ground law, which was designed to protect people from violence in their own homes, to aid with her defense in his courtroom. She's now serving a 20 year sentence in jail for defending herself within her own home.

The same Florida judicial system that put this black woman in jail for 20 years for standing her ground will be returning the gun he used to kill black Trayvon Martin to white George Zimmerman.

Trayvon Martin was killed trying to stand his ground to be able to walk home from the store in his own neighborhood.

If you find this two toned unequal justice system to be unfair, contact your elected officials and tell them to do something about it.

July 15, 2013 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm sure he thanks you for your continued support"

he will always have my support when he acts responsibly

"Let's all work together to get Congress to rewrite and help Obama with his vow to fight to restore Voting Rights Act to protect against current Jim Crow type laws that are being written and enacted in some states.

No doubt you want to help President Obama ensure every US citizen's right to vote, regardless of race, is equally protected in every state."

quite ironic that the President and Attorney General are both black and that less than a year ago had an election with record minority participation, and yet, liberals think there is a need for Federal intervention to protect the right of blacks to vote

is this a July Fools' prank?

""The death of Trayvon Martin was a tragedy. Not just for his family, or for any one community, but for America.""

that's funny, because you acted in the election campaign like it was your lucky day

you crassly exploited the incident, knowing full well that there was no evidence of racism or murder

""I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son. And as we do, we should ask ourselves if we’re doing all we can to widen the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities. We should ask ourselves if we’re doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis. We should ask ourselves, as individuals and as a society, how we can prevent future tragedies like this. As citizens, that’s a job for all of us. That’s the way to honor Trayvon Martin.""

and what did Trayvon Martin do to deserve some honor?

"Trayvon Martin, and each of us by proxy, has been weighed in the balances and found guilty of his own murder."

not really

July 16, 2013 6:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"July 15, 2013 10:56 AM Blogger Priya Lynn said...
This comment has been removed by the author."

it's always a riot when lazy Priya shows up and displays the mental instability that lazy Priya is known for!!

"I think Zimmerman was probably guilty of murder but the jury made the decision they should have given the evidence presented to them."

and are you in possession of evidence they didn't have or is your conclusion merely racism?

"With no witnesses and precious little to refute Zimmerman's claim of self defense there was not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty of murder."

and, yet, you think he's guilty as charged

but who should we believe?:

a jury chosen fairly in the land of the free and the home of the brave

or

a mentally unstable and lazy individual who believes without evidence in a land with a monarch on the money?

"I know many of us wanted to see him convicted"

why? because you're racist

"and I believe a guilty man is probably going free"

why? because you're racist

"but if the a justice system lowers the bar to allow conviction of someone like Zimmerman that would result in many more innocent people being convicted in other trials down the road."

yes, if we act on the beliefs of racist mobs, eventually racial minorities will suffer

good point

the American system works

"Witness the utter evil of Texas governor Rick Perry who stunningly insisted that of the 200 or so people executed during his term he has no concern whatsoever that any of them were innocent."

I'm presuming these people had trials

"That's Republicans for you - the government is so incompetent that it should be shrunk until its small enough to drown in a bathtub, except when it comes to the justice system and then the government is infallible. Talk about cognitive dissonance."

juries aren't made up of government officials and both the defense and the prosecution have a voice in their composition

it's a fact little known in the more depressing provinces of Canada

"If Treyvon Martin had been white and Zimmerman black"

if that had been the case, the whole incident wouldn't have drawn any attention at all

"Let's not be like them and base our appraisal of this trial performance on the colour of the defendant's and victim's skin."

yes, let's just be like Priya and claim, without any evidence, that a white man must be guilty because he is white

"Trayvon Martin was killed trying to stand his ground to be able to walk home from the store in his own neighborhood."

there was a trial that found no evidence of this

if there were evidence, there would be a civil suit but that would allow lawyers to examine Martin's past in court and reveal things his family don't want known

so, there will be no civil suit

July 16, 2013 6:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops! Ex-Gay Month has been canceled!

"Due to some anti-ex-gay extremism that has occurred since we first announced Ex-Gay Pride 2013, the July 31 Lobbying Day on Capitol Hill and Evening Dinner/Reception at the Family Research Council has had to be moved and postponed to an undisclosed location in September. The harassment has caused several security threats which has forced us to change plans, and that is unfortunate. However, we are committed to holding an alternate event in late July as well as supporting some other initiatives that our allies and fellow ex-gays are planning for July. These events are still in development and will not be announced until late next week. For all of our supporters that have made travel plans to attend the July 31 event, we sincerely apologize for having to change plans, but we thought it was in the best interest to ensure the safety and security of all participants and speakers.

"On the bright side, this harassment and anti-ex-gay extremism has reminded us just how intolerant some individuals and organizations are about the existence of ex-gays and former homosexuals. So much so, that we believe it is necessary not only to hold events in July for Ex-Gay Pride, but also to declare September as the First Annual Ex-Gay Awareness Month. Ex-Gay Awareness Month in September will be a time to reflect on the discrimination and marginalization that former homosexuals and ex-gays experience in the public at large. It will also provide some much needed exposure to students in secondary schools and colleges across the country to learn about the plights, challenges, and tribulations facing ex-gays in our culture." - Voice Of The Voiceless, announcing that July is no longer "Ex-Gay" Pride Month. Or something. Tens of tickets will have to be refunded!

RELATED: No word on whether their theme song contest has also been canceled."


Thanks, Joe.

Willingly hiding yourself in a closet is pretty extreme. I wonder what "extremism" spooked them into staying in that closet they are already hiding in for the rest of July, with plans to try again in September.

July 16, 2013 8:48 AM  
Anonymous This is extreme! said...

"DAKAR, Senegal (AP) — A rights group says a prominent gay rights activist in Cameroon has been tortured and killed just weeks after issuing a public warning about the threat posed by “anti-gay thugs.”

Human Rights Watch said Tuesday that friends discovered the body of Eric Ohena Lembembe at his home in the capital, Yaounde, on Monday evening after he was unreachable for two days.

One friend said Lembembe’s neck and feet looked broken and that he had been burned with an iron.

Lembembe was executive director of CAMFAIDS, a human rights organization. In a July 1 statement, he condemned recent break-ins by “anti-gay thugs” at the offices of groups advocating for gay rights.

The precise motive for Lembembe’s killing was unclear Tuesday. HRW urged officials to launch a thorough investigation."

July 16, 2013 9:42 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "I think Zimmerman was probably guilty of murder but the jury made the decision they should have given the evidence presented to them."

Bad anonymous said "and are you in possession of evidence they didn't have or is your conclusion merely racism?".

No, and I'm pretty sure most, if not everyone, on the jury thought Zimmerman was probably guilty as well. I know its a little much for your simple mind to grasp but in situations like this there are a range of probabilities from impossible, to unlikely, to equally probable, to more likely than not, and to probable beyond a reasonable doubt. The last one is the standard used in murder trials. Its possible for a scenario to be probable (as in Zimmerman is probably guilty) but not so probable that its likely beyond a reasonable doubt. I, and I'm sure most, if not all, of the jury, felt Zimmerman's guilt was probable but that that probability did not reach the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Zimmerman had a history of approaching people in his neighbourhood as presumed criminals despite having been told not to do so by his neighborhood watch. On that night Zimmerman called the police and demonstrated his dangerous mind set by stating "They (criminals or black people) always get away". This is evidence that he had already decided that Trayvon was guilty of something and that he wanted him punished. Then after the police repeatedly told him not to pursue Trayvon he did so anyway. This is evidence he was seeking a confrontation and his possession of a gun is the sort of thing that gives people confidence they can prevail in a confrontation.

The evidence shows Zimmerman sought out a confrontation with Trayvon, had a grudge against him, wanted him to be punished for his perceived guilt, was armed and prepared to get into a violent confrontation in which he was confident he'd be the victor (or he'd have done as the police told him to and not pursued Trayvon). The evidence shows Trayvon had done nothing wrong to justify Zimmerman's judgement that he was a criminal and deserved to be punished. For me the probability that Zimmerman is guilty is in the 70% to 80% range and there is no contradiction between me or the jury believing that and believing he should not be convicted of murder. Unlike evil republicans such as yourself I want to see 99.9% probability of guilt before anyone is convicted of murder. So the lesson for today little one is that even though the evidence shows Zimmerman probably murdered Martin it did not meet the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt" and so the acquittal was appropriate. Look at it this way simple one: Me, or the jury members saying Zimmerman was probably guilty is no different than telling a young woman that if she plans her wedding day for July 22nd it probably won't be raining but that's not an assurance that it won't rain on that date beyond a reasonable doubt.

If I was racist like you I'd be saying this trial is all tidy and good, there's no concern here despite the preponderance of evidence showing Zimmerman's guilt, we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken and nothing more need be said. (Note how you dishonestly excluded the rest of Obama's comment to pretend he also thought that was all that needed to be said).


I on the other hand am not racist so I recognize that while there was damning evidence against Zimmerman it did not meet the high standard that should be required for a conviction.

July 16, 2013 10:12 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "Witness the utter evil of Texas governor Rick Perry who stunningly insisted that of the 200 or so people executed during his term he has no concern whatsoever that any of them were innocent.".

Bad anonymous said "I'm presuming these people had trials".

How typical of you to say one thing at one time and then because you hide behind the veil of anonymity feel you can get away with contradicting yourself at another time. You had previously said you oppose the death penalty, not because murderers don't deserve to be put to death, but because there is a possibility of executing an innocent person. And now you're asserting like that demon Rick Perry that there is no concern any innocent person is ever convicted of murder. Typical two-faced lying bad anonymous.

A few years back Michigan suspended all its death row executions because of all the people on death row there were more subsequently found to be innocent through DNA evidence than were left presumed guilty. Now a moron will say "That proves the system works and no innocent people are ever executed." but that's true only if you believe the only time a person is wrongfully convicted is when there's DNA or other evidence to prove their innocence - obviously that's an absurd belief. There was a very real possibility that Zimmerman could have been convicted and that would have left a disturbing, although more unlikely than not, possibility that an innocent man had been convicted.

A few years back a man was convicted of murdering his family by burning down his house. The sole evidence against him was that the arson investigators gave the opinion that the fire was intentionally set. Subsequent investigators noted that they had used out of date investigations procedures that were prone to false conclusions. An investigations board reviewed the case and ruled that the case should be retried in light of the new findings. Rick Perry pressured them to reverse their decision and when they refused to do so he fired them all and replaced them with people who told him they were willing to reverse the decision. Perry knew it was probable an innocent man was on death row, but he didn't care, he prefered to see innocent people put to death over admitting that his justice system had made a mistake. And (today) you are taking the same position.

So, no, unlike you dishonestly suggest, a trial in the United States is no assurance that a convicted person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

July 16, 2013 10:13 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "That's Republicans for you - the government is so incompetent that it should be shrunk until its small enough to drown in a bathtub, except when it comes to the justice system and then the government is infallible. Talk about cognitive dissonance."

Bad anonymous said "juries aren't made up of government officials and both the defense and the prosecution have a voice in their composition".

Oh, please. Juries are generally made up of people with little knowledge of the law or investigative techniques. They are prone to deciding based on emotion and prejudice rather than facts - witness the contrast between the Zimmeran case and the case of Marissa Alexander that good anonymous posted. While juries aren't government employees in principle, the judge and everyone controlling the trial are. The law was made by government employees, the rules for interpretting it and setting the procedures for a trial are done by government employees and a government employee instructs the jury on how to deliberate, what evidence they may or may not consider, the parameters of the decision they are to make and which judgments they may render. Your assertion that a jury made up of the public overrides any influence of the government on the decision made is absurd - Republicans are just as stupid as they appear, claiming on one hand the government is so incompetent that it should be shrunk until its small enough to drown in a bathtub and on the other that when it comes to the justice system and the government is infallible. The cognitive dissonance would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.

July 16, 2013 10:15 AM  
Anonymous Robert said...

It's pretty funny that Ex-gay Pride Month has been cancelled. It's alarming that it's organizer has blamed this on un-named threats and intimidation. My guess is they just couldn't get anyone to go.

LGBT Pride events have always been accompanied by threats and intimidation, and happened anyway.

July 16, 2013 3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so priya, there is a great book that you would love...it's a john Grisham and called the confession..
here's the link :

http://www.jgrisham.com/the-confession/

I think these days with DNA, etc it is far less likely that we would put an innocent person in jail. are you in favor of the death penalty ? how about for the Colorado movie theatre shooter or for the guy that raped the 10 year old (Jessica) for months and then buried her alive ? I guess I don't see any reason not to kill them... slowly and painfully as well actually.

It's called deterrent.

oh, and I got an email today that made me think of you...
--------------------------------

The folks who are getting the free stuff don't like
the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because
the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer
afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.

And the folks who are paying for the free stuff
want the free stuff to stop.

And the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more
free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!

Now... the people who are forcing the people who pay
for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING
the free stuff that the people who are PAYING for the
free stuff are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.

So... the people who are GETTING the free stuff have been
convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the
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We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there
are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the
free stuff.

Now understand this.
All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere
between 200 and 250 years after being founded.
The reason?

The voters figured out they could vote themselves money
from the treasury by electing people who promised to give
them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.

The United States officially became a Republic in 1776,
236 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff
outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff.

Failure to change that spells the end of the United States
as we know it.



July 16, 2013 8:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and I don't believe the govt or the justice system is infallible.

but it the rules we abide by and thus we must follow them. even if you don't agree with a verdict, it stands. Sorry. It's outrageous that Holder turns around and suggests a challenge to the Zimmerman trial based on a the govt bringing civil proceedings. Lots of white folks disagreed with the OJ verdict but did you see the attorney general suggesting civil charges ? do you think OJ was guilty ?

July 16, 2013 9:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Holder turns around and suggests a challenge to the Zimmerman trial based on a the govt bringing civil proceedings"

Moron, look up the difference between "civil proceedings" and "civil rights violations."

"...The DOJ launched a review of the shooting earlier this year and Holder said that they would take proper action if they had evidence of a civil rights crime.

“If we find evidence of a potential federal criminal civil rights crime, we will take appropriate action, and at every step, the facts and law will guide us forward,” said Holder in a speech in April to Al Sharpton’s National Action Network.

But Holder had cautioned in subsequent remarks that the DOJ faces a “very high barrier” when seeking to bring federal criminal charges in such cases."...


Ill Suited

"Claim: George Zimmerman is suing Trayvon Martin's parents for their failure to control their son.

FALSE"


And as far as the other way around, the Martins suing Zimmerman:

"If Trayvon Martin's parents file a lawsuit against George Zimmerman, they face a huge obstacle: Florida's "stand your ground" law.

That much-debated statute provides immunity not just against criminal charges but also against civil suits.

Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon's parents, would not say Tuesday what their plans are.

"We're not even thinking about it right now," he said. Parents Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton "are still trying to deal with the tragedy of this verdict."

July 17, 2013 9:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh poor little rich girl, bitchin' about all her money again.

Waaaaahhhhh!

You might remember, Theresa, who left the US economy with a surplus (that was Bill Clinton) and which party (that would be your GOP) figured out how to rain tax dollars on all their political cronies (check out Halliburton's bottom line, for example) and turn the surplus the Democrats built into the careening deficit Bush and his cronies left for us.

July 17, 2013 9:57 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Anon said:

“oh, and I got an email today that made me think of you...
--------------------------------

The folks who are getting the free stuff don't like
the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because
the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer
afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.”

You conservatives are real pieces of work.

You spend much of your precious free time denigrating trans people, calling them mentally ill, setting up NotMyShower.com with all the studies you can find so you can take data out of context and make people thing that trans women are a bunch of HIV infested prostitutes, that we are a danger to society in general and children in particular, (especially in bathrooms), that trans anti-discrimination laws are a dangerous assault on liberty, freedom, and religion, and part of a larger, nefarious gay agenda that’s destroying our culture. In general, everything you can possibly think of to portray trans people as disgusting scum of the earth that businesses should have the ability to fire at will SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TRANS, without any regard to their skills or ability to do the job.

Your vicious anti-trans propaganda campaign takes full advantage of a wealth of bad information, and preexisting fear and ignorance of trans people that is rampant in our society to make sure that you do everything you can to never have to see a trans person in the workplace.

And then when you find one that (thanks to this ubiquitous anit-trans animus) hasn’t been able to work, you pick on her some more.

How is anyone supposed to NOT conclude you guys fall “somewhere along the sociopath spectrum.”

And if for some reason I have to look for another job but can’t find one because no one wants to hire a transsexual, why shouldn’t I fill my free time by using my rhetorical skills to undermine your destructive anti-trans campaign?

My friends and I spent a good portion of our last meeting trying to think of ways to get one of the youngest members of our group a job. She is intelligent and gregarious, but just graduated high-school, so she has practically no job skills. She has filled out dozens of applications and even been on some interviews. The application process comes to a screeching halt when they meet her and she’s obviously trans.

If you want trans people to be able to work, STOP your anti-trans campaign, take down the NotMyShower website, apologize for your anti-social behavior and work with me to correct the negative image you guys have worked so hard to create.

Or, keep doing what you’re doing and prove you’re nothing more than a sociopath with a grudge against transsexuals.

Have a nice day,

Cynthia

July 17, 2013 10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cynthia.
Priya did not say that Priya could not find work because of being a trans. Priya said that Priya finds work demoralizing and thus chose to live off the public dole for "decades".
there's a difference.

July 17, 2013 2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the email is right.
People in this country have some nerve.

When folks complain about the confiscatory tax rate, they are accused of "whining" by people who AREN"T BOTHERING TO WORK AT ALL.

It is somewhat amazing.

July 17, 2013 2:07 PM  
Anonymous content of character said...

Theresa's right

I remember Priya saying Priya "can't emotionally function in a workplace setting"

"Former President Jimmy Carter weighed in Tuesday on the recent verdict handed down in the trial of George Zimmerman. Speaking with Atlanta's WXIA, Carter said he believed the jury's decision to acquit Zimmerman was correct because the prosecution had been overly ambitious.

"I think the jury made the right decision based on the evidence presented because the prosecution set the standard so high that the jury had to be convinced that it was a deliberate act by Zimmerman and that he was not defending himself and so forth," he said. "It's not a moral question, it's a legal question and the American law requires that the jury listens to the evidence presented."

Asked if he thought Martin's killing and Zimmerman's case presented any broader issues of race, Carter said not necessarily, considering the prosecution didn't bring up any alleged racial motivation during the trial. He also said he believed the vocal and at times physical backlash to the not guilty verdict would subside as people "start seeing what we can do about the present and the future and put aside the feelings about the past."

Carter said he agreed with President Barack Obama regarding the trial. On Sunday, the president released a statement saying that, "we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken."

Zimmerman has been released and given his gun back."

July 17, 2013 2:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two-hundred fifty grand rich folks bitchin' about having their income tax rate lowered is about as pathetic as it gets.

Here's some great news for everybody, rich and poor alike in many states. Check out New York:

Obamacare Cuts New York Insurance Premiums In Half Before Government Subsidies

Notice this: "Without subsidies."

That means the AFA is making health care more affordable for all of us, regardless of income.

Even bitchin' rich folks should be grateful to Obama for his leadership in making affordable health insurance available to us all.

We are all hurt by GOP-controlled States' refusal to expand Medicaid [because it] complicates healthcare for many uninsured

"...So far, 23 states and the District of Columbia have agreed to expand Medicaid, six are undecided, and 21 have said no. Among them: Texas, which is where 47-year-old Ricardo Rios lives. He would qualify for Medicaid, under the health care law’s expansion plan if Texas hadn’t opted out. He’s praying the state’s leaders change their minds.

“We just have to pray that everything will go well and it’ll change," he says.

If things don’t change, Rios will continue to struggle with being poor and uninsured. He’s supposed to take medication for high blood pressure and insulin for diabetes. Sometimes he doesn’t have enough money to pay for his medicine, so he skips it. The lack of insulin leaves him weak, and drowsy.

“I just take a nap and hope I can wake back up again," he says. "That I don’t end up passing away.”

There are a lot of people in Ricardo Rios’s shoes. In fact, about two thirds of the low-income uninsured who would qualify for Medicaid under the healthcare law, live in states that will not expand it.

Robin Rudowitz, a healthcare analyst at the Kaiser Family Foundation, says there will be a huge coverage gap. She says the uninsured will continue to face, “High out of pocket costs as well as really going without care or delaying care that they need.”

Until they get so sick they end up in the emergency room -- in many cases, unable to pay. The hospitals will have to treat them for free. They may ask for more state aid. The federal government subsidizes some free care. But, under health care reform, those subsidies shrink on the theory that more people will be insured.

Stephen Zuckerman, who co-directs the Health Policy Center at the Urban Institute, says hospitals in states that don’t expand Medicaid will come under increasing strain.

“Ultimately, that could lead these hospitals to restrict care to these uninsured populations," he explains. "So, it could be a problem, three, four years out.”..."

July 17, 2013 3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Zimmerman has been released and given his gun back."

And Zimmerman took his gun and went back into hiding now that he's a free, acquitted man.

July 17, 2013 3:17 PM  
Anonymous YAY!!!! said...

"Gay marriage was officially legalized in Britain on Wednesday, after Queen Elizabeth II put her royal signature on the measure.

The new law allows gay couples in England and Wales to marry in civil and religious ceremonies, though the Church of England is exempted from performing gay marriages as part of an effort to appease social conservatives and prevent legal challenges.

Out4Marriage campaign founder Ben Cohen celebrated the marriage equality victory, and applauded the support of Prime Minister David Cameron and a diverse coalition of lawmakers in a statement to the Telegraph: “It is absolutely fantastic that this change in the law, almost uniquely in the world, was proposed by a Conservative prime minister and his Liberal Democrat Deputy with the support of the Labour party leader.”

“Sometimes politicians can work together for the common good and this is a stunning example of this,” he added.

The first marriages performed under the new law are expected to take place next summer."

July 17, 2013 3:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there are more people not working and on federal assistance then there are people working.

That is simply not sustainable. Are you arguing that it IS sustainable ?

July 17, 2013 5:37 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

"there are more people not working and on federal assistance then there are people working.".

You scumbag lying B.

Most of the people getting federal assistance ARE working (and many of them two low paying jobs), so NO, there are NOT more people not working than working.

This is just like the B.S. you tried to pass off about the average person on welfare getting more than the median American income when the truth is the average welfare recipient gets $7000 per year for a family of three.

You're just a disgusting lying selfish demon. I hope you and your husband both get fired and go broke.

You're just a constant stream of Bullsh*t, you don't give a damn about the truth, any lie in service of your agenda is perfectly fine with you.

July 17, 2013 6:31 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

And I wasn't on welfare for "decades" you lying
B. and I was on welfare because of health issues.

Not that the truth matters to a scumbag like you, you think its your right lie with impunity.

July 17, 2013 6:33 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Cynthia, don't believe anything Theresa or bad anonymous tells you about me. They've been lying about me non-stop and although I've repeatedly corrected them the keep repeating the same lies. Those two have no integrity whatsoever.

July 17, 2013 6:50 PM  
Anonymous Robert said...

Hurray for England and Wales.

July 18, 2013 9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One in five Americans—the highest in the nation’s history—relies on the federal government for everything from housing, health care, and food stamps to college tuition and retirement assistance. That’s more than 67.3 million Americans who receive subsidies from Washington.

Government dependency jumped 8.1 percent in the past year, with the most assistance going toward housing, health and welfare, and retirement.

The federal government spent more taxpayer dollars than ever before in 2011 to subsidize Americans. The average individual who relies on Washington could receive benefits valued at $32,748, more than the nation’s average disposable personal income ($32,446).

At the same time, nearly half of the U.S. population (49.5 percent) does not pay any federal income taxes.


http://personalliberty.com/2013/07/16/no-brainer-less-welfare-means-more-people-looking-for-jobs/

you didn't answer my question - is this sustainable ? are you arguing it is ? are you arguing that we should tax the folks who are working even more to pay for the 1/2 who aren't ? that motivates people not to work and to join the ranks of the dependents... when you constantly demonize those who work (as you do constantly, as does the democratic party in general)... people who are working eventually get tired of seeing the fruit of their labor going to such ungrateful people.

I really would like to understand if you believe this is sustainable, and why.

July 18, 2013 10:06 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Anon said:

“Priya did not say that Priya could not find work because of being a trans. Priya said that Priya finds work demoralizing and thus chose to live off the public dole for "decades".
there's a difference.”

“I remember Priya saying Priya "can't emotionally function in a workplace setting"

I remember bits of Priya’s post as well. Thank god she didn’t reveal too much more personal information because it is clear you guys would have merely used is as another weapon to bludgeon her with.

One of the items I remember from her post is her saying she was “abused by her family.” Thankfully she didn’t go into details. But let me give you just one example of what that abuse might sound like, from one of my dear trans friends:

Imagine you are 4 years old and you’ve told a certain family member that you want to be a girl. At that age you could never imagine that the response might be “OH, SO YOU WANT TO BE A GIRL DO YOU?!?!?! I’LL SHOW YOU WHAT IT’S LIKE TO BE A GIRL!!” Followed by the sound of pants unzipping.

It carries the euphemistic name “corrective rape;” and for inexplicable reasons, some people think it’s a cure for transsexualism.

I can only hope Priya did not suffer through that. I certainly didn’t, and I count myself lucky.

At the Philadelphia Trans Health Conference a couple of years ago, I had the pleasure of mingling with close to a thousand different trans people. And most of them were quite normal. However, there were also a few that were clearly suffering from PTSD. One in particular raised her trembling hand to ask us to please stop making jokes about “reparative therapy.” She had been subjected to it as a child and it still haunted her. She choked back tears as she described being forced to shower with her father to get her “more comfortable” with her own genitals. The proscribed methodologies, rewards and punishment systems of supervised “reparative therapies” usually only leave emotional scars.

Most of us were however, subjected to “redneck reparative therapy.” If “normal” children were subjected to this it would be considered outright child abuse. But since we’re trans, the assaults and harassment are simply “de rigueur” for “making sure the kid doesn’t grow up to be a faggot.” This can leave physical scars as well. It has left some poor trans souls simply and utterly broken. I am left wondering at times how they didn’t end up as a suicide statistic. Frankly, it would have been more merciful.

So it should be no surprise that after decades of abuse by family and society, you might run across a trans person who has trouble interacting in a world where people constantly berate her, claim she’s a threat to their children, and an “abomination to God.”


“I remember Priya saying Priya "can't emotionally function in a workplace setting"

You often claim that trans people are “suffering from delusions” and “mentally ill,” and here is one that you knew was emotionally compromised, perhaps even suffering from an emotional disability, and yet, since she found it difficult to work, you called her “lazy,” “stupid,” and conflated her with the terrorist bombers of Boston.

How… Christian of you.

Do you treat all potentially mentally ill people like that? Do you also harass Down’s Syndrome kids for having funny looking eyes? When you see an amputee returning from Afghanistan, do you give a big friendly wave and yell out “Welcome home Stumpy!”?

That’s all I have time to write today.

Cynthia

July 18, 2013 11:24 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

"“I remember Priya saying Priya "can't emotionally function in a workplace setting".

Another lie, I never said that. Those two just make up whatever lie about me they think helps their agenda and then falsely claim it came from me.

July 18, 2013 12:03 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Thanks for your support Cynthia - you are a warm and kind person.

July 18, 2013 12:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the issue with Priya, Cynthia, is that Priya thinks it is okay to ask me to give more than 1/2 my salary to support Priya when Priya isn't willing to work. not only Priya believe I should give more, Priya than berates me because I don't believe that is fair, that I am somehow selfish when I am the one that sacrificed time with my children when they were young so that I could pay for their college - I didn't do it to pay Priya and folks like Priya to sit on their butts for decades. I don't continue to work to pay folks like Priya to sit on their butts... I continue to work to pay for my children's college.

sure, if folks need some time to recover from things that happened to them as children then perhaps they should have therapy and get well... whatever therapy they find is appropriate.... but eventually they need to rejoin the workforce. and yes, there are jobs that down's syndromes folks can do and do perform. It is not healthy for people not to contribute to society in some way. and priya, by priya's admission did this for years on end and still finds time to blast folks that have worked (in part to support priya's decision not to work !).

It is outrageously unfair. and the attitude is was is really unbelievable.


Period.

I don't believe the people who aren't working have the right to ask people who are working to pay more.

that's the bottom line.

and you still haven't addressed the issue of how you sustain a society when 1/2 the people aren't working and expect to be supported by taking more and more and more from those of us who are.

July 18, 2013 1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Now... the people who are forcing the people who pay
for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING
the free stuff that the people who are PAYING for the
free stuff are being mean, prejudiced, and racist."

completely accurate as you just so kindly demonstrated for us, Cynthia

July 18, 2013 2:43 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Shut up Theresa you liar. I was NOT on welfare "for decades". You've never paid a penny to support me, you don't pay anywhere near half your income in taxes and the vast majority of what you pay in taxes does not go to people on welfare. You're just a lying spoiled selfish B.

And again with the lie that 1/2 of the people aren't working, are you drunk again? Its becoming pretty obvious from the absurd lies you think you can con people with you come on here intoxicated on a regular basis.

The top 20% of Americans have 90% of the wealth in the United States. The current situation with them assisting the poorest americans is MORE than sustainable, its no problem WHATSOEVER.

You've benefited from society out of proportion to the majority of Americans, it is FAIR that you give back more to society than less wealthy people to support the poorest in society. If you paid nothing in taxes you'd still be a miserable drunk whining B. You can wrongly blame your unhappiness on poor people the rest of your life but that's never going to make you happy. You're going to die wealthy and absolutely miserable - poetic justice.

July 18, 2013 7:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Priya.
I have never said I was miserable or unhappy. I have 3 children, a husband I love and a job I like. You were the one that said you were miserable.

I have said I was exhausted and furious at the inequity of our tax code on a regular basis. I see this in my law school daughter, who is interning for a judge in Baltimore, taking a class and commuting to Baltimore every day, as well as getting resumes ready for interviews. She is stressed out and exhausted all the time. She was in tears yesterday evening not sure how she was going to manage to get everything done. And when starts working ? Out of her 160K salary she will pay close to 80K in taxes, 10K for insurance, and take home 70K, of which 35K will go to pay back her law school loans. About as much as if she had never bothered to go to law school.

Those of us who choose to work hard are tired of supporting those of you who don't try. What about that don't you understand ?

It's not just you - don't take it personally - I am also furious with my brother, especially after spending the weekend with him at the beach and watching sit and not work, continue to blow through his retirement money and sit his kids in front of the television for a good portion of the day. he hasn't had a full time job in about 2.5 years, and I see why...
I offer to pay for a computer class, he doesn't have the motivation to go take one. He sits and plays on his phone, sleeps till 10:30 or 11, etc.

You however, clearly know how to use a computer and could go get a job. But you choose not to...

Why ? If you are perfectly happy right now, you could have more money by working and not put all the income pressure on your significant other...

but you choose to sit and rant insults at those who do work (and paid your welfare checks for years) in the multitude of your free time.

And instead of arguing the logic, you are resorting to personal insults again... and you still haven't addressed my question of how you sustain a society when 1/2 the population chooses to subsist off the forced welfare of the other half.

I pay an ENORMOUS amount in taxes. By the time you add them all together, they are close to 43% (not counting sales taxes !).... so yes, 1/2 is about right.

I have explained that the tax code favors the truly wealthy and punishes earned income, but you don't even recognize that point.

Still waiting for an answer about how you sustain a society when 1/2 the folks are living off the other 1/2.....

July 18, 2013 10:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://moneymorning.com/2013/07/10/latest-obama-outrage-more-people-on-food-stamps-than-are-working-full-time/

and here's your reference
"Latest Obama Outrage: More People on Food Stamps Than Are Working Full Time"

July 18, 2013 10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haven't been participating in the discussion this week. Have read the stuff quickly but not finding the time to respond.

This whole thing between good Theresa and lazy Priya goes to the heart of the problem with socialism.

lazy Priya appears to believe benevolence is an entitlement. Instead, people in such a situation should have gratitude to those whose efforts sustain them. So, by enforcing charity through government coercion, an essential function of a healthy society is warped.

Ok, there was also this:

"You often claim that trans people are “suffering from delusions” and “mentally ill,” and here is one that you knew was emotionally compromised, perhaps even suffering from an emotional disability, and yet, since she found it difficult to work, you called her “lazy,” “stupid,” and conflated her with the terrorist bombers of Boston.

How… Christian of you.

Do you treat all potentially mentally ill people like that? Do you also harass Down’s Syndrome kids for having funny looking eyes? When you see an amputee returning from Afghanistan, do you give a big friendly wave and yell out “Welcome home Stumpy!”?"

actually, I call lazy Priya lazy because lazy Priya calls names on everyone that doesn't agree with lazy Priya

people with Down's syndrome and amputees aren't verbally attacking everyone else and, further, lazy Priya's laziness is not due to gender identity disorder

lazy Priya simply has too much time on lazy Priya's hands because lazy Priya is lazy and idle hands make for people who are detrimental to a healthy society

July 18, 2013 10:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your brother sounds depressed. A couple of years without gainful employment can sap a person of their drive and self-confidence. You might suggest therapy for him, assuming he still has health insurance or hopefully lives in a state that is expanding Medicaid under the ACA, to help him cover the cost.

Medicaid Map

July 19, 2013 8:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We were better off with you not responding with yet another of your thoughtless personal attacks on a trans woman, piling on with the bullies who display their disdain for LGBT folk on this blog regularly.

T bitches about giving up some money to help out her less fortunate neighbors while we have working class heroes risking not mere money, but their lives day after day to save the homes of rich people like her in burning canyons out west.

One resort town of the idle rich, Idyllwild, was evacuated yesterday as the mountains four miles from Palm Springs burned.

The working class firefighting stiffs stood their ground to battle the blazes as the rich property owners ran for their lives.

July 19, 2013 8:24 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

From some of the posts, it is clear that due either reading comprehension problems or just your own sense of shear superiority, have completely missed the point of my post. I’m going to try a different approach this time, type slower, and use smaller words to see if you can comprehend the idea.

Presume for a moment, that your worst paranoid delusional fears have come true.

It’s 5 years from now and “The Gay Agenda” has taken over.

As payback for NOM and Prop 8, LGBT folks start their campaign to eliminate Catholics and Mormons from the religious protection portions of our anti-discrimination laws.

It isn’t an easy task. It takes years, lot of money, lots of media, and a whole lot of “fear and smear.”

We gather every record of priest or nun sex abuse, and physical abuse in their schools, every instance where Catholic parents have been bought off by the church to keep them silent, every historical instance we can find of the church stealing Jewish children from their parents, recount the decades that they corralled Jews into ghettos and forced them into conversion classes, and flood the media with every negative image we possibly can off Catholics and it starts to turn public opinion. Throwing in the fact that the Vatican is believed to still hold Nazi gold stolen from Jews during the holocaust pushes the effort past the tipping point. Pretty soon no one wants to condone a religion that has been known harbor and hide pedophiles for centuries.

We do the same for Mormons, starting with their penchant for “marrying” 14 year girls off to 50 year old men that already have 6 wives. We are so effective with this campaign that people really start to resent and fear Catholics and Mormons and they don’t want to have anything to do with them.

Once we have built up enough hatred towards these groups, it’s easy to get them excluded from the non-discrimination laws. Once that happens, people are free rid their places of employment from the dangers of these pedophile promoting religious folks.

Being Catholic, Theresa and her hubby get fired from their jobs in the interest of “protecting the children.”

Theresa then comes on this blog and complains that she, her hubby, and many of her Catholic friends are being harassed by the LGBT community. And she spends a lot of time on here because she’s out of work.

I tell her that it looks like she can type pretty well and so she should get off her lazy arse and find a job. Theresa complains that she WOULD have a job if only people like me would stop conflating her with pedophiles just because lots of other Catholics are pedophiles.

I tell her to stop blaming good people like me, stop being lazy and going to your pedophile church, and go to Walmart, I hear they’re looking for greeters. After all, being a Catholic is a choice. You don’t have to choose to associate yourself with pedophiles. Choose another religion and you’ll be a lot better off; assuming of course you don’t choose that religion that makes you wear funny magic under ware.

Does any of this sound familiar??!?!

July 19, 2013 11:27 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

I have never met Priya, but I have met other trans folks who were out of work. NONE of them left work voluntarily. They were kicked out. Simply for being trans in the wrong place. Even my professor friend with 5 advanced degrees who thought she was working at a “liberal” college was kicked out – just before getting tenure, which was widely acknowledged as being a “done deal,” at least before she came out anyway. She spent 2 years desperately hunting for a job before finally finding one that couldn’t turn her away without losing their academic accreditation – because no one else was willing to take the job.

All of the transpeople I know that are currently “not working” are doing everything they can to earn money (even dog walking) and find a “real” job. They are DESPARATE for their old jobs back or a suitable replacement. They would LOVE to be working again full time. Many of those that do have jobs are working at a much lower position and earning less money (and paying less taxes) than before they transitioned. Not because they can’t do the same job any more, but because they can’t find someone that will hire a transsexual.

The reason they can’t find jobs (or can’t find as good a job) is because of the shear ignorance, misinformation, and fear religious folks like you keep promoting about us.

It should be no surprise that if you keep conflating us with HIV infected prostitutes, the mentally ill, sexual deviants, pedophiles, fascists, and threat to life, liberty and justice itself, that there are enough ignorant fools out there that will believe you. And why in the world would they want to hire us?

People like you ARE THE CAUSE of many trans people being out of work. As long as you keep promoting your bovine excrement, you should have no complaints about them slowly disappearing from the workforce – after all THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT YOU ARE AIMING FOR.

If you are upset about having to support them afterwards, then STOP, THINK FOR A FREAKING MINUTE, and re-asses your whole approach to the matter. Otherwise you need to consider that forcing transpeople out of good jobs and onto food stamps is the totally predictable cost of your carefully organized, persistent, and well funded, anti-social endeavor.

Own up to it, revel in your success at eliminating some of us from the public sphere, and stop bitching about it.


As for your other question, I do math for a living. All my equations have to balance out or my circuit doesn’t work. I have deal not only with “real” numbers, but “imaginary” ones as well and vectors. I happen to be quite good with math, and that’s why the performance of our political leaders since the 80’s has appeared ridiculous to me.

The economic path we are on has been unstable since Reagan tripled our national debt. It is simply not sustainable. Continuing to rely blindly on “supply side economics” is only going to make it worse. The penance for our last 3 decades of fiscal impropriety has yet to be paid. It will not be pleasant.

Have a nice day,

Cynthia

July 19, 2013 11:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The economic path we are on has been unstable since Reagan tripled our national debt. It is simply not sustainable. Continuing to rely blindly on “supply side economics” is only going to make it worse. The penance for our last 3 decades of fiscal impropriety has yet to be paid. It will not be pleasant."

uh, cinco, you need to join the Tea Party

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uh, cinco, sheer is not spelled "shear"

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uh, cinco, I've yet to hear lazy priya say lazy priya can't get work

lazy priya said lazy priya can't emotionally handle work

July 19, 2013 2:10 PM  
Anonymous Robert said...

Picking on Priya seems to have become a past time around here. Certainly is convincing.

July 20, 2013 7:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"California’s teen pregnancy rate has dropped nearly 60 percent as a result of expanded sex education programs, according to a report released by the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) on Wednesday.

The report –- which was based on data collected until 2011 -- revealed that the California teen pregnancy rate reached a 20-year low that year. While in 1991, there were 70.9 births for every 1,000 teens aged 15-19, in 2011 this number decreased to 28 births per 1,000 teens.

Teen pregnancy rates fell across all ethnic groups, according to the report. The Hispanic teen birth rate dropped from 73.6 in 2001 to 42.7 in 2011 –- although Hispanics continue to be the group with the highest teen birth rate. Teen pregnancy rates for African-Americans, Whites and Asian-Americans also decreased significantly.

Several factors contributed to the falling pregnancy rates, the department said in a press release. One factor was the state’s school sex education program, which law requires to be comprehensive and medically accurate. The report also credits community-based education programs that provide sexual health information to teens and their parents.

“We do believe that our programs are behind these numbers,” Karen Ramstrom, the chief of the program standards branch at the California Department of Public Health’s maternal child and adolescent health division, told the Los Angeles Times.

“California’s innovative strategies and community partnerships aimed at lowering teen pregnancy are helping young women and men make responsible choices,” Dr. Ron Chapman, director of the CDPH, said in a press release. “We must not be complacent; we must continue to promote teen pregnancy prevention programs and strategies in all communities.”

As Think Progress noted, California’s teen birth rate decreases are part of a national trend. The national teen birth rate dropped nearly 50 percent between 1991 and 2011, NBC's Today Health reported.

The nation's southern states continue to have some of the highest teen birth rates, Think Progress pointed out -- partially due to a lack of comprehensive sex education programs in many of those states."

July 20, 2013 2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How long will Virginia be for lovers if Cuccinelli becomes Governor?

July 23, 2013 8:16 AM  
Anonymous carlos danger said...

Democrats are always good for a laugh!!

July 23, 2013 5:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hysterical!

July 24, 2013 5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But several conservative groups said the federal agency has no business getting involved in the issue as a civil rights matter, and in doing so, trampled on the rights of other students.

"It is definitely a situation where we have compassion for that child and the child needs help," Bob Tyler, an attorney at Advocates for Faith & Freedom, told FoxNews.com. "But you can’t ignore the rights under the constitution of California, and arguably under the United States Constitution, of all the other students of the school.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/26/doj-ripped-for-making-transgender-restroom-use-new-front-in-civil-rights-battle/#ixzz2aAXF70mh

July 26, 2013 12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Faux news?

Don't want any!

July 26, 2013 5:59 PM  
Anonymous FOX News is the highest rated cable news, by far said...

why not?

you have a faux mind

July 27, 2013 12:16 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Bob Tyler said:

"But you can’t ignore the rights under the constitution of California, and arguably under the United States Constitution, of all the other students of the school.”

Wow, that sounds pretty bad Bob.

Until, of course, you actually look at the rights we have under the Constitution and our other laws, and figure out that there is actually no civil right that can be misconstrued to permit people to kick others out of public restrooms just because they don’t like their medical condition.

As a lawyer, you should know that.

Try again.

Have a nice day,

Cynthia

July 27, 2013 9:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you all completely ignore that it is also a right of the parents of the boys in that bathroom to privacy.

Which the girl (she is still physically a GIRL, regardless of what her "brain sex" is) insisting on using the boys room is violating.

The boys have rights too !

July 27, 2013 8:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Faux news?

Don't want any!


FOX News is the highest rated cable news, by far said...
why not?

you have a faux mind"


Actually, it's FAUX NEWS viewers who are misinformed and those of us who do NOT watch it know It’s Official: Watching Fox Makes You Stupider.

That's why not, Moron.

July 28, 2013 1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Pope Francis has had a busy week at World Youth Day in Rio as he visited his slums and prisons, blessed the Olympic flag and brought three million people to Copacabana Beach for a final Mass on Sunday morning.

Now he has made another headline, this time when the pontiff said, "Who am I to judge a gay person?"

While taking questions from reporters on the plane back to Rome, Francis spoke about gays and the reported "gay lobby." According to the Wall Street Journal, the Pope's comments about homosexuality came in the context of a question about gay priests.

The pontiff broached the delicate question of how he would respond to learning that a cleric in his ranks was gay, though not sexually active. For decades, the Vatican has regarded homosexuality as a "disorder," and Pope Francis' predecessor Pope Benedict XVI formally barred men with what the Vatican deemed "deep-seated" homosexuality from entering the priesthood.
"Who am I to judge a gay person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people."


John Allen of the National Catholic Reporter reported on the meeting as well and said the Pope also addressed the question of the Vatican's reported "gay lobby".

He hasn’t run into significant resistance to reform inside the Vatican, and joked that if there really is a “gay lobby” he hasn’t yet seen it stamped on anyone’s ID cards.

Father James Martin, S.J. who is an admirer of Francis, said that the pontiff's comment about gay people is consistent with the rest of his papacy.

"One of Francis's hallmarks is an emphasis on mercy, which you see in that response. That mercy, of course, comes from Jesus. And we can never have too much of it.""

July 29, 2013 9:11 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Totally Confused claimed:

“you all completely ignore that it is also a right of the parents of the boys in that bathroom to privacy.

Which the girl (she is still physically a GIRL, regardless of what her "brain sex" is) insisting on using the boys room is violating.

The boys have rights too !”


First, you’ll have to explain how someone in a restroom at a school, can violate the “privacy” of the parents of a boy in the restroom when they aren’t even physically present.

Theoretically, someone could violate the privacy of a boy if they peeked under or over the stall wall. On the planet that I live on though, this in no way infringes on the privacy of the parents. It’s simply not physically possible. The parents may want to charge the peeping child with some kind of inappropriate conduct charge, (and I recommend they do), but unless someone is trying to take a look at private parts when they shouldn’t, no one’s privacy is being violated.

The boys have plenty of rights; but none of them include peeking over the stall wall to check out the trans person’s genitalia.

Have a nice day,

Cynthia

July 29, 2013 10:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cynthia.
Haven't you ever been in a men's room ? Of course you have !

there are urinals in a lot of boy's restrooms, without stalls.

so the girl is going to be exposed to a line of boys lined up peeing.

really ?
as a parent, I would be pretty unhappy about the whole situation.

why do you thinks transgenders have a right to trample everyone else's rights ?

July 29, 2013 5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the thing is, the LGBT agenda lobby argues that it doesn't make any difference and no harm is done if different genders are using the same rest room

so, if it doesn't make a difference, why not accommodate those care?

because, like the marriage debate, the whole idea is not achieve a straightforward objective but to dissolve the concept of gender

July 30, 2013 7:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

House GOP Defunds ACORN Yet Again, Even Though ACORN Does Not Exist

July 30, 2013 7:48 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Anon exclaimed:

“Cynthia.
Haven't you ever been in a men's room ? Of course you have !

there are urinals in a lot of boy's restrooms, without stalls.

so the girl is going to be exposed to a line of boys lined up peeing.”


It has been over 10 years since I used a men’s room. I usually used the stalls, not the urinals. Go figure.

The recall that the protocol in men’s rooms was pretty much “look straight ahead or down at your own business, don’t even glance in the direction of another man’s junk.”

This protocol is taught very early in grade school. If someone’s eyes wander too far in the wrong direction, it is quickly challenged with “What you lookin’ at, faggot?!” followed by a thorough @$$ whoopin’ if the next action isn’t an immediate look away.

This “mind your own business” approach is what allows transmen / boys to use “stand to pee” devices when they use the urinal. Even though it may not look exactly lifelike, nobody is going to be looking closely enough to notice.

“really ?
as a parent, I would be pretty unhappy about the whole situation.”

Maybe you can explain to the parents of the girls in the class why they should force a kid that looks, dresses, and behaves like a boy (and is likely attracted to girls) to use the girls room. Afterall, all the non-trans boys are going to want to claim they are trans so the can walk into the girls room looking like a regular guy.

“why do you thinks transgenders have a right to trample everyone else's rights ?”

You have yet to identify a single specific constitutional, state, or local civil right that is being “trampled” on. Maybe if you could actually come up with one rather than vague, unsubstantiated accusations, we would have something to talk about.

I’ve talked to a number of women in the restroom about a variety of topics. Some of them knew my medical history. None of them ever complained I was “trampling” any of their civil rights.

Clueless claimed:

“the thing is, the LGBT agenda lobby argues that it doesn't make any difference and no harm is done if different genders are using the same rest room

so, if it doesn't make a difference, why not accommodate those care?

because, like the marriage debate, the whole idea is not achieve a straightforward objective but to dissolve the concept of gender”

Some people have said I look like Cher, when she has curly hair. (There was a movie she did where she plays a lawyer, but I don’t remember the name of it.) If I were actually trying to “dissolve the concept of gender,” it would be far better to go for more of a David Bowie look. Please try to pay more attention.

Have a nice day,

Cynthia

July 30, 2013 8:22 AM  
Anonymous Some folks don't even like it when a trans lady shows up at a river party, let alone uses the ladies room said...

A teenager was set upon by a mob and killed at a party in St. James overnight.

Reports are that between a 10:00 p-m and 3:00 this morning (July 22), there was river party being held in the Irwin community.

It's reported that the 17-year-old was dressed as a female and was dancing with a male, when a woman at the party recognised him and told other patrons that he was not a female, but a male.

It's understood that one of the men at the party, held on to the teen, searched him and discovered that he was in fact, male.

Some of the patrons reportedly set up on the teen, and chopped and stabbed him to death.

His body was then dumped in bushes along the Orange Main Road.

Police discovered the body about 5:00 this morning.


Do you segregate males and females bathrooms in your house?

July 30, 2013 11:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hmmm...another transgender attacked

of course, it happens to people in other walks of life

but that's not important to the gay agenda

here's a victim that doesn't merit mention by TTFers:

A Bethesda man was attacked and robbed early Saturday morning in Adams Morgan, DC, by three men who beat him "for Trayvon Martin," WUSA 9 reported.

"Three black men approached an adult white male from behind while he was walking in the 1700 block of Euclid Street NW at 1:26 a.m. Saturday, police said," The Washington Post reported.

July 30, 2013 2:37 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Anon said:

“hmmm...another transgender attacked

of course, it happens to people in other walks of life

but that's not important to the gay agenda

here's a victim that doesn't merit mention by TTFers:

A Bethesda man was attacked and robbed early Saturday morning in Adams Morgan, DC, by three men who beat him "for Trayvon Martin,"

Wow, that sounds pretty bad Anon. Until of course you spend 3 seconds googling the article and find the tidbits of information you strategically omitted:


“Two of the men threw the victim to the ground and kicked him, Alali said. The three perpetrators then took the victim’s iPhone and wallet and fled.

The victim suffered minor injuries and declined medical attention, authorities said.”


So the white guy was thrown to the ground and had his cell phone stolen. Meanwhile, for the trans person:

“Some of the patrons reportedly set up on the teen, and chopped and stabbed him to death.”

These attacks really don’t seem to be in the same league, do they? Unless of course you insist that both victims “declined medical attention” and omit the fact that for the second one it was because he was DEAD.

Try again Anon.

Cynthia

July 31, 2013 11:07 AM  

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