Monday, November 28, 2016

Your First Fake-News Detection Algorithm

There were two kind of interesting "fake news" stories this past week, illustrating the depth of the problem. One was easy, the Internet spread the rumor that CNN had broadcast a half hour of porn instead of Anthony Bourdain. Even the first reports said that only one person in Boston had seen it. Bourdain's pretty good, I figured more than one person would have tuned in and seen the porn if it was real, and when I first saw this story I concluded it was wrong. But it did get retweeted and forwarded thousands of times. Actually, my spidey-sense says that someone was doing an experiment, creating "fake fake news" to see how far it could go.

The second incident is harder to label. This time it's fake news about fake news. And here's the problem, it comes from a "reputable" source -- the Washington Post. They put out a story on Thursday that started like this:
The flood of “fake news” this election season got support from a sophisticated Russian propaganda campaign that created and spread misleading articles online with the goal of punishing Democrat Hillary Clinton, helping Republican Donald Trump and undermining faith in American democracy, say independent researchers who tracked the operation. Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say
Reading the story in one of the world's most legitimate sources, you would sip your coffee and say to your spouse, "Look what those Russians are doing." Most of us don't look up and go, "Huh, hon, it doesn't seem to say who these 'independent researchers' are."

Journalist Glenn Greenwald jumped all over this one (after Fortune noted the BS) with a story headlined, "
Washington Post Disgracefully Promotes a McCarthyite Blacklist From a New, Hidden, and Very Shady Group
In casting the group behind this website as “experts,” the Post described PropOrNot simply as “a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds.” Not one individual at the organization is named. The executive director is quoted, but only on the condition of anonymity, which the Post said it was providing the group “to avoid being targeted by Russia’s legions of skilled hackers.”

In other words, the individuals behind this newly created group are publicly branding journalists and news outlets as tools of Russian propaganda – even calling on the FBI to investigate them for espionage – while cowardly hiding their own identities. The group promoted by the Post thus embodies the toxic essence of Joseph McCarthy but without the courage to attach their names to their blacklist. Echoing the Wisconsin Senator, the group refers to its lengthy collection of sites spouting Russian propaganda as “The List.”
Greenwald contacted the journalist, Craig Timberg, to ask him about the story, and got the response: "I’m sorry, I can’t comment about stories I’ve written for the Post."

If you are thinking about what kind of algorithm would be able to remove fake news from a "trending" feed or message stream, you would think that one of the major factors would be something like reputation of the publisher. The Washington Post says that this undocumented story about unnamed experts anonymously judging news sources as Russian propaganda was one of the most widely circulated political news articles on social media in the days after it came out -- and why not? It's The Post. Must be true. If it came from something like deplorablepatriots-dot-com your algorithm might reject it on reputation grounds, but The Post's name carries the story forward. You can read that story and never even wonder why they don't give any names (there are lots and lots of things wrong with this story -- go read Greenwald's takedown).

The CNN-porn story had no weight of reputation behind it. Somebody called "Solikearose" tweeted “Did anyone else with RCN in Boston see the hardcore porn that was broadcast by CNN by mistake?” BuzzFeed seems to have actually talked with the person, who swears she saw it, but nobody else did. As they write:
But soon enough, the story had gone viral, along with the notion that it was a widespread problem affecting “viewers in Boston.”

Dozens of news outlets including Variety, the New York Post, and Esquire ran with it. Their stories were shared thousands of times on Facebook and Twitter.

Some reports suggested that as many as 300,000 RCN subscribers may have been affected by the “epic blunder,” despite only a single person having complained about the problem.
CNN apologized and blamed RCN. the local Boston service provider, but then a little later tweeted, "Despite media reports to the contrary, RCN assures us that there was no interruption of CNN’s programming in the Boston area last night."

We don't know if that one person was hallucinating or pranking the world, or if her neighbor's cable signal leaked into hers or what, but she was the only one who saw any porn on CNN. The question then is why so many people picked up this story and re-posted it.

"Truth" is an impossible criterion. You can't tell by looking at a statement whether it is true or not. If you have ever been in a situation that was reported in the news, you will realize that most news has some fakery in it. It may be something left out, or an adjective that simplifies the interpretation while calling attention from more important aspects of the story, and often the details are simply inaccurate. Scientific findings are evaluated by peer review, which is really just some people saying the research looks okay to them -- science is an evolving body of successive approximations to truth. Knowledge itself is an evolving consensual schema, where what somebody "knew" a hundred years ago might have turned out to be absolutely false, just like what we know now. So your fake-news algorithm cannot evaluate truth directly, it has to look at source reputation, internal consistency and logical structure, it needs to compare details to reputable external sources.

For instance, the widely publicized "FBI Agent Suspected in Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead" story supposedly happened in a town that doesn't exist, quoted a Chief of Police who did not exist. The address given for the news publisher was a tree in a parking lot next to a vacant bank building. Your fake-news algorithm should pick up some of those things.

A fake-news detection algorithm might be tougher to develop than one that passes a Turing test. It would have to be able to recognize intent, inconsistency, shady sources, facts that do not appear to have widespread support, including new facts that are true and old facts that are not. This strains the capabilities of artificial intelligence but I bet something good will come out of learning to solve this problem.

In the meantime, these are things people should be doing for ourselves. We should be reading critically. We should look up sources and citations when we encounter them, at least before we forward the message on to others. is a great resource for catching "urban legends." Google a fact, see if it is an echo-chamber artifact or something that real news sources are carrying.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking

"Donald Trump’s claim that the United States has "no idea" who is behind recent email hacks is just not true.

The fact-checking website Politifact says Hillary Clinton is correct when she says 17 federal intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia is behind the hacking.

“We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin. And they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing,” Clinton said during Wednesday's presidential debate in Las Vegas.

Trump pushed back, saying that Clinton and the United States had “no idea whether it is Russia, China or anybody else.”

But Clinton is correct. On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

"The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities."

While the agencies all issued the statement together, Trump spokesman Steven Cheung told Politifact he took Clinton to be implying each agency came to the conclusion independently, a situation Cheung finds "unlikely."

This summer, Wikileaks released a trove of emails from the Democratic National Committee. And over the past two weeks, Wikileaks has been releasing Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails. The Clinton campaign has neither confirmed or denied the authenticity of the emails, though they have pushed back on certain emails and warned that stolen information could be altered."

November 28, 2016 4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the OH state shooter today was a Somali refugee that talked about the stigma against Muslims and was given a green card in 2014.

Fake ? No.
Inconvenient for your agenda ? Yes.

But of course it was white swedes responsible for Orlando and San Bernadino, right ?

November 28, 2016 5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice segue to demonizing Muslims yet again.

Ten deadliest mass shooting in the U.S. and who committed them.

1. Orlando FL (2016) 50 killed, 53 injured by Omar Mateen, an American born in New York of Afghan parents

2. Blacksburg, VA (2007) 32 killed, 17 injured by Seung-Hui Cho, a South Korean born legal permanent resident of US

3. Newtown, CT (2012) 27 killed, 1 injured by US-born white male, Adam Lanza

4. Killeen, TX (1991) 22 killed, 20 injured by George Jo Hennard, an American white male and "an unemployed merchant mariner who was described by others as angry and withdrawn, with a hatred of women and ethnic minorities"

5. San Ysidro, CA (1984) 21 killed, 10 injured by Ohio born white male, James Oliver Huberty

6. San Bernardino, CA (2015) 14 killed, 21 injured by American born Syed Farook and Pakistan national Malik

7. Edmond, OK (1986) 14 killed, 6 injured by American born Patrick H. Sherrill, another white male

8. Fort Hood, TX (2009) 13 killed, 32 injured by Maj. Nidal Hasan who was born in 1970 in Arlington, VA of Palestinian parents

9. Binghamton, NY (2009) 13 killed, 4 injured by South Vietnam born and naturalized American citizen, Jiverly Wong

10. Aurora, CO (2012) 12 killed, 58 injured by white male American born James Holmes

Eight out of ten of these mass murderers were born in America.

Five out of ten of these mass murderers were white males.


"Sweden’s former prime minister Carl Bildt said 2016 was the year of “double disaster” for the west. He tweeted: “At least Richard Nixon had a solid understanding of world affairs. Manoeuvred skillfully. But morally corrupt. And collapsed in disgrace.”"

--from World leaders react to Donald Trump's US election victory

November 28, 2016 6:39 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "And the OH state shooter today was a Somali refugee that talked about the stigma against Muslims and was given a green card in 2014. Fake ? No. Inconvenient for your agenda ? Yes".

We don't have an agenda that seeks to demonize entire groups of people based upon the wrondoings of an individual member of that group - that's your schtick. So, that's inconvenient for your agenda, not what you falsely claim to be our agenda.

November 29, 2016 4:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Romney kisses Trump's ass, hopes to win Secretary of State job

November 30, 2016 8:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Donald Trump, who claimed to be uniquely positioned to fight special interests in Washington and vowed to crack down hard on companies that send jobs overseas, is now taking credit for cutting a deal that epitomizes corporate socialism at the expense of American taxpayers.

The details of the agreement he brokered with Carrier to keep some of the 2,100 manufacturing jobs the company had planned to move to Monterrey, Mexico – where workers typically make $19 per day – are still hazy. But CNBC reports that it entails “new inducements” for the company, arranged by Indiana Governor and vice president-elect Mike Pence, in exchange for keeping what CNN says will be “nearly 1,000” jobs in the Hoosier State.

Trump is flying to Indiana tomorrow to hail his great negotiating skills. But make no mistake, using tax dollars to bribe the company is nothing like what he promised on the stump...

...Trump will no doubt be lionized by his supporters for “saving” those jobs, but dig down a bit and it’s clear that this deal represents the worst kind of corporate welfare. First, Carrier, and United Technologies, are already heavily subsidized by the government – and many of those subsidies were specifically dedicated to keeping the very jobs it threatened to offshore here at home.

An investigation by The Indy Star found that under Mike Pence, Indiana had “awarded millions of dollars in economic development incentives to companies that have moved production to foreign countries such as Mexico and China, and Carrier was “the highest-profile case.” According to the conservative National Review, the company also got $5.1 million in stimulus-funded tax credits from the Department of Energy “for the sole purpose of creating and maintaining green jobs in the United States.” Carrier won the grant by “vowing to expand production of energy-efficient gas furnaces at its Indiana facility.”

CNN reports that United Technologies gets about 10 percent of its annual revenues from federal contracts, and that “the government also pays for nearly $1.5 billion of the company’s annual research and development spending.” That figure represents 23 times as much money as the company would save in labor costs by moving its Indiana facilities to Mexico. United Technologies shelled out around $18 million for lobbying in 2015 and 2016, according to Open Secrets, making it the 33rd biggest spender on Capitol Hill. So much for draining the swamp.

Carrier is also highly profitable – there’s no reason to believe it needs either government subsidies or cheap Mexican labor to get by. ..."

I wonder which we'll see first: the details of these "hazy" additional "new inducements" for Carrier or the Pu--y Predator President-Elect's 2015 income tax return.

November 30, 2016 3:38 PM  
Anonymous tsk-tsk said...

oh me gursh!

Jim is slipping again

two days without a post

last time TTF dropped its vigilance, Trump was elected

this time

who knows what disaster will ensue?

Ted Cruz on the Supreme Court

Sarah Palin as special prosecutor to look into Hillary's bribes from foreign governments

Rush Limbaugh as press secretary

Trump resigns and Pence takes over

if only Jim had kept with his posting

November 30, 2016 10:53 PM  
Blogger JimK said...

I do not feel any pressure to meet your expectations.

November 30, 2016 11:04 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

In survey, teachers report a postelection surge in bullying

The day after the presidential election, high schoolers in Illinois reportedly yelled things like “terrorist” and “pack your bags” at their immigrant classmates on the school bus, while a Jewish student at the same school was reportedly told, “We’ll burn you.”

That same day, a group of Hispanic girls at a high school in New Jersey told their homeroom teacher that another student had warned them that President-elect Donald Trump “was going to deport their families.”

Seventh-grade boys in Colorado were heard yelling “Heil Trump!,” and at an elementary school in Michigan, some Muslim girls have stopped wearing hijabs.

These are just a few of the 25,000-plus anecdotes submitted by more than 10,000 teachers, principals, counselors, administrators and others who work at K-12 schools around the country, in response to an online survey conducted by the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Teaching Tolerance project in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election.

According to a report released by the SPLC this week, 90 percent of the educators who responded to the survey said that the election has had a negative impact on the overall mood and behavior of their students, with most also expressing concerns that the postelection fallout will continue to weigh heavily on their classrooms for the rest of the school year.

Eighty percent reported that anxieties have intensified among African-Americans, immigrants, Muslims, LGBT and other marginalized students since the election, while four out of 10 respondents said they’ve heard students use derogatory language against their African-American, immigrant and Muslim classmates, as well as in relation to students’ gender or sexual orientation.

December 01, 2016 4:11 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Half of the educators reported having observed students pick on one another over politics, and more than 2,500 described fights, violent threats and attacks on both teachers and students, property damage, derogatory graffiti, and other specific incidents of hate and harassment that appear directly linked to the election.

“My Mexican-American students have been catching comments from kids at school and in the community about being deported, etc.” wrote one high school teacher from New York. “We also had one student post a pro-Trump/anti-black meme that went to 600 other kids’ Instagram feeds. (The words he used are not printable here.)”

At an elementary school in Minnesota, there have been many fights between students since the election “as well as many more boys feeling superior to girls,” another teacher noted. “I have had one male student grab a female student’s crotch and tell her that it’s legal for him to do that to her now.”

The findings of this latest report echo those of a similar survey conducted by the Teaching Tolerance project during the presidential primaries in late March. Then, the SPLC, concluded that “children of color, in particular, [were] being deeply traumatized,” while others appeared to be “emboldened by the divisive, often juvenile rhetoric” coming from the presidential campaign trail.

Though that earlier survey did not mention any particular candidates by name, the responses from more than 2,000 educators included far more references to Donald Trump than anyone else in the race.

December 01, 2016 4:11 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

“Mr. Trump claims he’s surprised his election has unleashed a barrage of hate across the country,” SPLC President Richard Cohen said at a press conference Tuesday. “But he shouldn’t be. It’s the predictable result of the campaign he waged.”

In response to the findings of the Teaching Tolerance survey as well as a separate SPLC report detailing 867 bias and hate-related incidents reported within the first 10 days of Trump’s election, Cohen and several other human rights leaders called on the president-elect to take responsibility for the influence his words have had, speak out against bigotry and reassure those who’ve been most marginalized by his campaign that he will serve all Americans as president.

“America is hurting right now, and all of us want to come together and feel safe,” Brenda Abdelall of Muslim Advocates, a legal advocacy organization that has been tracking hate crimes against Muslim Americans over the past year. “To bring us together as a nation, he will need to disavow dangerous proposals and ideas that single out and demonize Muslims and other communities.”

A spokesperson for Trump did not respond to an immediate request for comment on this story, but as Cohen and others noted, the president-elect has thus far only vaguely, and only when pressed, condemned the acts of bigotry that have been reportedly carried out in his name since the election.

“ Trump has claimed he’ll keep Americans safe and stand up for the little guy — but he refuses to speak up for the littlest guys — the children — who are being taunted and bullied in schools by kids who use his name as a weapon,” said Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers. “His [silence] … is deafening.”

December 01, 2016 4:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

December 01, 2016 7:16 AM  
Anonymous lackey said...

"I do not feel any pressure to meet your expectations"

oh, great

the whole liberal agenda is falling apart because you lacked vigilance

and you're.......nonchalant

oh, great

December 01, 2016 9:41 AM  
Blogger JimK said...

I yam what I yam.

December 01, 2016 10:59 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

There are dark days ahead for the United States. Very dark days.

December 01, 2016 11:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bernie Sanders: Carrier just showed corporations how to beat Donald Trump: We need a president who can stand up to big corporations, not fold to their demands.

"Today, about 1,000 Carrier workers and their families should be rejoicing. But the rest of our nation’s workers should be very nervous.

President-elect Donald Trump will reportedly announce a deal with United Technologies, the corporation that owns Carrier, that keeps less than 1,000 of the 2100 jobs in America that were previously scheduled to be transferred to Mexico. Let’s be clear: It is not good enough to save some of these jobs. Trump made a promise that he would save all of these jobs, and we cannot rest until an ironclad contract is signed to ensure that all of these workers are able to continue working in Indiana without having their pay or benefits slashed.

In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?

In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won. And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.

Trump has endangered the jobs of workers who were previously safe in the United States. Why? Because he has signaled to every corporation in America that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives. Even corporations that weren’t thinking of offshoring jobs will most probably be re-evaluating their stance this morning. And who would pay for the high cost for tax cuts that go to the richest businessmen in America? The working class of America.

Let’s be clear. United Technologies is not going broke. Last year, it made a profit of $7.6 billion and received more than $6 billion in defense contracts. It has also received more than $50 million from the Export-Import Bank and very generous tax breaks. In 2014, United Technologies gave its former chief executive Louis Chenevert a golden parachute worth more than $172 million. Last year, the company’s five highest-paid executives made more than $50 million. The firm also spent $12 billion to inflate its stock price instead of using that money to invest in new plants and workers...

December 01, 2016 11:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...Does that sound like a company that deserves more corporate welfare from our government? Trump’s Band-Aid solution is only making the problem of wealth inequality in America even worse.

I said I would work with Trump if he was serious about the promises he made to members of the working class. But after running a campaign pledging to be tough on corporate America, Trump has hypocritically decided to do the exact opposite. He wants to treat corporate irresponsibility with kid gloves. The problem with our rigged economy is not that our policies have been too tough on corporations; it’s that we haven’t been tough enough.

We need to re-instill an ethic of corporate patriotism. We need to send a very loud and clear message to corporate America: The era of outsourcing is over. Instead of offshoring jobs, the time has come for you to start bringing good-paying jobs back to America.

If United Technologies or any other company wants to keep outsourcing decent-paying American jobs, those companies must pay an outsourcing tax equal to the amount of money it expects to save by moving factories to Mexico or other low-wage countries. They should not receive federal contracts or other forms of corporate welfare. They must pay back all of the tax breaks and other corporate welfare they have received from the federal government. And they must not be allowed to reward their executives with stock options, bonuses or golden parachutes for outsourcing jobs to low-wage countries. I will soon be introducing the Outsourcing Prevention Act, which will address exactly that.

If Donald Trump won’t stand up for America’s working class, we must.

December 01, 2016 11:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I yam what I yam"


at least you're eating your spinach

December 01, 2016 2:45 PM  
Blogger JimK said...

That is a good way to look at it.

December 01, 2016 3:54 PM  
Anonymous There's no difference here between fake news, faux news and FOX news said...

Fox Deceptively Edits Obama Interview to Falsely Claim He Told Illegal Immigrants to Vote

WATCH: CNN anchor debunks Fox report in which Donald Trump voter repeats fraud myth

December 01, 2016 4:20 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Donald Trump’s the most pro-gay Republican president-elect in history, right? Well, no — he’s stacking his administration with people who’ve spent their entire careers going after LGBT people. ”Here are the ten most dangerous people Donald’s appointed, the harm that they could do in their new jobs, and what you can do to stop them.

December 01, 2016 4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's hear it for Free Speech and the First Amendment now that we have a Pu--y Predator President Elect who saved 800 jobs with a mere Seven Million dollars worth of corporate welfare.

School refuses to allow students, staff to wear safety pins after election

Anti-bullying efforts in public school can just go fuck themselves.

December 02, 2016 7:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

December 02, 2016 7:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The U.S. economy added 178,000 jobs in November, and the unemployment rate fell to 4.6 percent from 4.9 percent the previous month, according to new government data released Friday morning. The first employment report since voters went to the polls last month shows an economy in strong shape as President Obama prepares to leave office.

The unemployment rate fell to levels not seen since August 2007, before a bubble in the U.S. housing market began to burst. The fall was driven partly by the creation of new jobs and partly by people retiring and otherwise leaving the labor force.

December 02, 2016 10:24 AM  
Anonymous into the ash heap of history said...

you forgot to mention:

consumer confidence since Trump was elected is at its highest level since 2008

who was President all those years that failed to inspire confidence and get our country going? who was unable to provide leadership and give our economy's movers and shakers the courage to make bold risks to provide opportunity?

soon, none of us will remember this "leader" of these unfortunate eight years...

December 02, 2016 10:37 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

It takes about a year after a new president takes office for his policies to start having an effect on the country. So, anything that happens in the economy until January 2018 is due to Obama, not Trump.

It is Obama who's responsible for an unprecended record streak of job growth and the lowest unemployment rate in decades and the current high level of consumer confidence.

Obama has been one of the greatest presidents in U.S. history. Trump will likely be impeached for the corruption that is already prevalent in his transition. Trump will be remembered as perhaps the worst U.S. president ever.

Remember, it was Wyatt/bad anonymous who a couple of months ago said "Trump will be president, let's hope our Republic survives".

Wyatt/bad anonymous is getting whiplash from his 180 degree turns on what kind of a leader Trump will be. Lying comes as naturally to Wyatt as breathing.

December 02, 2016 11:36 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Clinton got over 2 million more votes than Trump and yet Trump won the election. As Trump said "The electoral college is a disaster for democracy!"

There are dark days ahead for the United States and perhaps the world. Very dark days.

December 02, 2016 11:49 AM  
Anonymous hey, that's what ISIS says said...

"There are dark days ahead for the United States and perhaps the world. Very dark days"


December 02, 2016 1:41 PM  
Anonymous it's like your worst nightmare, it just keeps gettuing worse and worse said...

if you like killing unborn children or if you like trapping inner city minority kids in dangerous hell-holes called public schools or if you like forcing everyone to pay for your health insurance and telling what kind you have to have or if you think small business owners should be forced to work to support things that violate their religious convictions or if you like moving American factories to other countries or if you think schools should have to teach that homosexuality is normal.....the days are very dark for you and you leave the country on the fastest, speediest jet plane

like the Joker said to Batman: laughter is the best medicine...hahahahahaha!

December 02, 2016 1:51 PM  
Anonymous AARRRGGHH!!!! said...

these are dark days indeed

what if the SCOTUS decides you don't have a constitutional right to force society to recognize your deviant relationship as a marriage?

the future looks bleak, the world is closing in...

oh woe, bitter and gloomy woe..

December 02, 2016 2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats didn't only win the popular vote for president.

Democrats won popular vote in the Senate, too

"The White House may not be the only institution in Washington that Democrats lost on Tuesday despite getting more votes than Republicans.

It turns out that Democrats also got more votes for the U.S. Senate than Republicans, and yet Republicans maintained their majority on Capitol Hill.

In results that are still preliminary, 45.2 million Americans cast a vote for a Democratic Senate candidate, while 39.3 million Americans voted for a Republican...

...The vote totals for Senate are also a bit arbitrary because each state gets two senators no matter how few people live there. Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska was re-elected with 111,000 votes; Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York was re-elected with 4.8 million votes..."

And the House of Representatives went from a 246/186 Grab Our Pu--ies Party majority to a smaller 240/194 (with 1 run-off in LA soon) majority.

Your Pu--y Predator President-Elect can't stand the fact he lost the popular vote so he lied and claimed 3 million illegals voted in the election.

He's the Liar in Chief.

And he can go fuck himself.

December 02, 2016 2:30 PM  
Anonymous I see a blue door and I want to paint it black said...

the last poster is so vile that their argument is lost without any counter but I will point that they are repeating a lie that has been circulating among the Sour Grapes Donkey crowd: that Donald Trump lost the popular vote

he couldn't have, we didn't hold a popular vote

if we had, a completely different group would have voted

it doesn't take an Einstein to realize that there was little reason for Californian supporters of Trump to vote

it's really not that complicated

unless, you're a gutter-dwelling, foul-mouthed, trailer trash liberal

in that case, you are in a stage of grief causing you to distort reality

then, there's this lie that there is no evidence that illegal immigrants vote

in 2008, a poll was taken and 20% of illegal immigrant said they were registered to vote, 6% said they actually did

if you realize that only a small fraction of people who commit crimes will admit it to a pollster and that 2016 was billed by the media as a showdown between illegal immigrants and law-abiding citizens, it's not hard to see where the 3 million number comes from

the evidence is not conclusive, but, at the same time, it's not imaginary either

December 02, 2016 3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"repeating a lie that has been circulating among the Sour Grapes Donkey crowd: that Donald Trump lost the popular vote

he couldn't have, we didn't hold a popular vote"

Tell that to your Pu--y Predator President-Elect who tweeted on November 28, 2016:

"Donald J. TrumpVerified account

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide,
I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.

12:30 PM - 27 Nov 2016"


You don't even realize your twittiot has falsely claimed he won the popular vote and that 3 million illegals voted.

You can both go fuck yourselves.

"you're a gutter-dwelling, foul-mouthed, trailer trash liberal"

I am just using your Pu--y Predator President Elect's very own words about grabbing pu--ies and telling people to go fuck themselves while you sing his praises as if he was some Messiah.

Go fuck yourself.

"in 2008, a poll was taken"

Oh that's timely!

Go fuck yourself again.

December 02, 2016 4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Wall Street Journal

Trump’s Carrier Shakedown: Workers don’t prosper when politicians force companies to make noneconomic decisions.

" U.S. auto workers have learned the hard way, real job security depends on the profitability of the business. Carrier wanted to move the production line to Mexico to stay competitive in the market for gas furnaces. If the extra costs of staying in Indianapolis erode that business, those workers will lose their jobs eventually in any case..."

December 02, 2016 4:21 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Like how Wyatt/bad anonymous is "shunning" me like he claimed he was going to do - posting one comment after another on what I've posted.

Wyatt/bad anonymous just can't quit me!


December 02, 2016 4:47 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "he couldn't have, we didn't hold a popular vote".

Obviously there was a popular vote and Trump lost by over 2 million votes. Wyatt/bad anonymous says "There are many situations where its apropriate to lie".

He obviously thinks this is another one of those situations.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "in 2008, a poll was taken and 20% of illegal immigrant said they were registered to vote, 6% said they actually did".

That poll was an online (unscientific) poll that was incredibly ill conceived. While in some places 20% said they were illegal immigrants, in other places they all said they were legal - they obviously were confused by the questions and the entire poll was useless.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "2016 was billed by the media as a showdown between illegal immigrants and law-abiding citizens, it's not hard to see where the 3 million number comes from the evidence is not conclusive, but, at the same time, it's not imaginary either".

Fox news isn't the media. They were the only ones potrtraying 2016 as a "showdown between illegal immigrants and law-abiding citizens".

The "evidence" IS imaginary. There were only TWO documented cases of voter fraud in 2016 and they were both people voting Republican. If there were 3 million people voting illegally there'd be a flood of actual criminal cases and people being convicted of voter fraud. There's only two actual cases because actual voter fraud is virtually nonexistant. An actual scientific study of it over the past 10 years found 300 instances investigated out of over one billion votes cast and the majority of those 300 instances were found not to be voter fraud.

Donald Trump lost the popular vote - BADLY. There was virtually no voter fraud whatsoever in the 2016 election. The claim of significant, let alone millions of cases of voter fraud is a right wing fantasy to attempt to hide their massive loss of the popular vote.

December 02, 2016 4:48 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Remember, it was Wyatt/bad anonymous who a couple of months ago said "Trump will be president, let's hope our Republic survives".

Remember it was Wyatt/bad anonymous who claimed he wasn't a Donald Trump supporter and the only intelligent thing to do was to vote for Gary Johnson.

Wyatt/bad anonymous is getting whiplash from all the 180 degree turns he's doing on Trump.

Go ahead Wyatt, shun me some more by "ignoring" my posts.


December 02, 2016 4:51 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Global warming is currently killing about 300,000 people a year. That number is going to increase exponentially in the coming years.

Conservatives - setting fire to the house we all live in in order to spite liberals.

December 02, 2016 5:00 PM  
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December 02, 2016 6:00 PM  
Anonymous the bemused smirker said...

"shun me some more by "ignoring" my posts"

look at Priya

so excited to think they are back in the conversation, desperately grasping at any hope

sorry, in addition to being a loser who was wrong about this election and someone committed to fallacious causes which are going down in flames, you're still persona non grata here until you post an apology for your incivil behavior

and to think, you can't even move to Canada


December 03, 2016 8:32 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

LOL Wyatt! You responding to my posts while not mentioning my name or quoting me is not "shunning" me.

You're pretty dumb but even you should have been able to see there's no way you could ignore what I post. And you haven't.


December 03, 2016 11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"you're still persona non grata here until you post an apology for your uncivil behavior'

You don't make the rules around here.

As your Pu--y Predator President Elect has said, you can GO FUCK yourself!

December 03, 2016 1:14 PM  

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