Thursday, December 22, 2005

Family Blah-Blah News Gets It Wrong

I do have to comment on this article at AgapePress. They're a "news" outlet for the American Family Association, the same guys who wanted Ford to stop advertising in gay magazines. Well, this week they expressed great concern about Montgomery County's citizens advisory committee for the sex-ed curriculum.
A Maryland school board is under fire for placing members of three pro-homosexual groups on its new Citizens Advisory Committee on Family Life and Human Development (CAC). Among the groups represented on the committee are the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG), and Teach the Facts, a homosexual advocacy group whose founder has close ties to the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). School Board's Pro-Homosexual Appointments Have Maryland Citizen Activists Concerned

Now, there you go, you learn something every day,don't you?

Pro-homosexual groups.

I don't know much about NARAL, but I'll just guess, from their name, that they are ... concerned about abortion rights. I just searched their web site for the word "homosexuality," and found four mentions of it. All occurrences seem to be in a quoted sentence. I mean, "pro-homosexual?" ... this ain't that.

PFLAG, all right, there you go. This diabolical organization supports people who love their friends and family members. That is terrible, they think people should love their children even when they're gay. Yikes! How anti-family is that?

And then, third ... there's us. A "homosexual advocacy group." Can you believe that? No, we're not that. We're an "education advocacy group," if anything. As the educational topic is sexual variation, we support the idea that the schools would teach the facts, all the facts, and nothing but the facts. We expect the latest information from medicine and science in the public schools, and religion can be taught in the home and in the places of worship. And we'll feel the same way when the anti-evolution nuts start feeling their cheerios in our county, too. And when the book-banners come through, we'll stand up for knowledge and openness.

But that last part. Man, that kills me: we're "a homosexual advocacy group whose founder has close ties to the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN)."

Who is "our founder?" Please?

The first TeachTheFacts.org meeting was held at a Mexican-food place in Wheaton called Cobano's. I'd say six or eight of us showed up. Seems like more than half of that group is still with us, others went off onto other things. There was no founder.

But, y'know, that doesn't matter, because none of us has any "close ties to the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN)."

We know where this lie came from. Last fall, somebody at GLSEN was trying to reach somebody about a conference call, and all they knew was that that person was a member of our Yahoo group, so they posted a note there. Actually, we blogged about it HERE and HERE. The CRC somehow got it in their heads that we had some big link to GLSEN, and now here it is on the big nutty national web site.

We do know somebody from GLSEN, in fact I saw her the other night at the citizens committee meeting. They routinely monitor school board meetings and other public events, and we run into each other all the time.

It is really something else, seeing how a paranoid fantasy at the local level becomes a news story at the national level. It is really weird, trust me, to be there when it happens. The way this works, now this AgapePress article is copied and pasted onto a thousand rightwing blogs, and this lie will attain the status of fact among a certain gullible portion of our society.

There's more:
Members of a conservative parents group called Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum (CRC) are criticizing the Montgomery County Public Schools ((MCPS) for the pro-homosexual appointments to its advisory committee. Also, CRC says a settlement agreement they reached with the school board guarantees them a chair on the committee, yet the board is not allowing the group to designate its own representative.

Michelle Turner, a spokesperson for CRC, says the Montgomery County Board of Education has apparently not learned its lesson from a recent lawsuit that led to the demise of its biased sex-ed curriculum. "We don't quite understand why the school system is going back to having these representatives on this advisory committee, which is supposed to be representative of the community," she notes.

Well, I'm not going to comment on that. If they really want to be part of the process, they know what they have to do. If they just want people to feel sorry for them, they know what they have to do. Either way, whatever, their call.

23 Comments:

Blogger Kay2898 said...

Well then ask PFOX about their CAC seat...Michelle...and how much they represent "community."

December 22, 2005 1:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As the educational topic is sexual variation, we support the idea that the schools would teach the facts, all the facts, and nothing but the facts."

Lies don't come any larger.

December 22, 2005 2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

on lies...unless you say something like this as CRC does

OUR MISSION STATEMENT: The mission of the Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum is to stand for medical accuracy, parental authority over the moral and religious instruction of children, and inclusion of all viewpoints and students in the public school system.


"anon free"

December 22, 2005 3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

their mission statement sounds great- they work against these goals

they don't want to teach any facts, much less all the facts and definitely more than nothing but the facts

December 22, 2005 3:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous kindly provides to us CRC's Mission Statement:

"The mission of the Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum is to stand for medical accuracy...."

That is nice. Too bad CRC seems to believe that the American Medical Association,the Ameican Academy of Pediatrics, and the American Psychiatric Association -- whose views on sexual orientation CRC opposes -- do not "stand for medical accuracy." So in whom should we trust on questions of "medical accuracy": CRC or the mainstream physicians?

December 22, 2005 3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That is nice. Too bad CRC seems to believe that the American Medical Association,the Ameican Academy of Pediatrics, and the American Psychiatric Association -- whose views on sexual orientation CRC opposes -- do not "stand for medical accuracy." So in whom should we trust on questions of "medical accuracy": CRC or the mainstream physicians?"

Well, those organizations all say they don't know what causes defective sexual orientation. Since we want to teach "all the facts", how about that one?

You know the sad thing is we don't know what most pratitioners believe. From historical data, we know it's not necessarily reflected in the association's position. Of course, the position could never be changed now because anyone who dares to disagree is threatened with having their license revoked.

You can rely on these associations when politics is not involved. It's easy to say it's not a choice or not a disease when there is no way to prove either and there is considerable pressure to make a social stand. The kids at a developing age are the victims.

December 22, 2005 4:06 PM  
Blogger andrea said...

Anonymous- you are posting your usual nonsense- your knowledge of nothing supercedes all major medical organizations.

December 22, 2005 4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, those organizations all say they don't know what causes defective sexual orientation


nuttiness from anonymous as usual

snow white

December 22, 2005 4:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous- you are posting your usual nonsense- your knowledge of nothing supercedes all major medical organizations."

Andrea, you'll always read what you want into anything. The organizations all say they don't what causes homosexuality. I've read their statements- have you? Why can't that be taught- you lying moron?

December 22, 2005 4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well, those organizations all say they don't know what causes defective sexual orientation


nuttiness from anonymous as usual

snow white"

Now, you think these groups are nutty. Go back and finish your schooling.

December 22, 2005 4:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CORRECTION:


"Anonymous- you are posting your usual nonsense- your knowledge of nothing supercedes all major medical organizations."

Andrea, you'll always read what you want into anything. The organizations all say they don't know what causes homosexuality. I've read their statements- have you? Why can't that be taught- you lying moron?

December 22, 2005 4:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you lying moron?


Anonymous are you looking at yourself in the mirror?

snow white

December 22, 2005 4:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"you lying moron?


Anonymous are you looking at yourself in the mirror?

snow white"

classic evasion

why are you opposed to teaching all the facts?

December 22, 2005 5:17 PM  
Blogger Kay2898 said...

anoymous said..."why are you opposed to teaching all the facts?"

What facts are your thinking about that would not be taught?

You want ex-gay stuff taught and that is not a fact..they do not even exist.

December 22, 2005 5:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that science hasn't determined the cause of homosexual behavior

try to follow the conversation, Kay

December 22, 2005 9:19 PM  
Blogger andrea said...

Anon- I'm a lying moron? So tell me, please- are you in middle school? Your general circular thinking and lack of understanding- not to mention the maturity of your name calling- make me think you may be in 7th grade. If you are actually in 8th or 9th-well, maybe some time reading at a higher level and taking more advanced history and science classes could help.

December 22, 2005 9:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lying moron

You still haven't answered the question. Why can't the curriculum teach that professional associations say that they don't know what causes homosexuality? For that matter, why can't they teach that certain biological characteristics have been identified as more prevalent in homosexuals but the tests showing them has not been replicated and even if the results are accepted, it's not known if they are cause or effect? Any answer why you don't want to teach kids all the facts? Why do you want to lie to them? Are homosexuals better at lying because they're more practiced at it?

December 23, 2005 8:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Lying moron



We all agree you are.

snow white

December 23, 2005 11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean the whole gang of eight agrees about me. Oh dear.

December 23, 2005 11:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well will CRC not let you on their sucky message board

such a shame

they could use the help over there since one has to check their pulse over there to know if they are alive or not on their sucky board that apparently only Retta posts to

December 23, 2005 12:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they don't need me

you do

someone needs to provide a check on the irresponsible statements made here

as Jim is finding out, he will held accountable for his words

December 23, 2005 12:17 PM  
Blogger andrea said...

As I said before the anon(s) are getting really boring- silly insults and no logic.
Anyway, Happy Chanukah, Merry Christmas, Feliz Navidad, a joyful Kwanzaa and a Happy New Year(Diwali and Winter Solstice have passed-but I didn't forget them). I am away from computers for a while-hopefully,some of you will have the same opportunity to be away from your computers.

December 23, 2005 12:17 PM  
Blogger Kay2898 said...

Oh Jim should be so scared..CRC anon is stalking him. I thought CRC anon only did that to women.

December 23, 2005 12:55 PM  

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