Planned Parenthood Responds Badly to Hoax
I could go on and on about this but I'm going to keep it short. An anti-abortion group, Live Action, went into some Planned Parenthood offices and pretended to be looking for medical services for underage sex slaves. They took video of the interactions. Planned Parenthood contacted the FBI to report a sex trafficking operation.
The right thing to do, right? Yes, of course, Planned Parenthood did exactly what they were supposed to do.
Live Action released one of their (highly edited) videos this week, showing a Planned Parenthood clinic manager, Amy Woodruff, talking with a couple posing as a pimp and prostitute. Then Planned Parenthood fired Woodruff, saying the video showed her "behaving in a repugnant manner that is inconsistent with our standards of care and is completely unacceptable."
I sat through the entire video yesterday, in fact I made a transcript of it, and I'm not sure what Ms. Woodruff did wrong. Oh, it's not pretty. She gives them advice on how to game the system, for instance, she says if teenage girls claim to be students they can get a better price on birth control pills. But I'm sorry, if you or I went into, say, Verizon, and the guy told us we could get a better deal by claiming to be ... something, tourists, maybe, or seniors ... we'd appreciate it, we wouldn't get the guy fired, even if he told us to say something that was not strictly true. It's not that.
The New York Times had a typical story, they wrote that "The manager gave advice on how to get medical care for under-age prostitutes." Okay, so what do you do? Do you send the people away, and leave these poor girls to suffer with their STD's and pass them on to their customers? Underage prostitutes need medical attention even more than the rest of us. And if you can get this pimp and prostitute to come into the clinic you can blow the whistle on them. Given the circumstances, I'd say the best thing to do is to string them along and get them to come back so the law can deal with them -- exactly what Woodruff did.
Some of the comments are off-the-wall and embarrassing, the lady is very informal and casual about the rules, and you can easily see why Planned Parenthood is unhappy with her. But for instance when the couple ask about getting abortions for fourteen-year-olds, Woodruff tells them that Planned Parenthood won't do that, and gives them the name of another place they can try. Toward the end of the interview she tells them that information will be reported to the State Department, but she says it in a way that does not alarm the hoaxers, it appears she makes it unclear intentionally.
I have seen some news reports that say she suggests that the girls should lie about their age, but that is not part of this video. There is a part where she talks about the age of the girls' sex partners, and I don't quite understand why that is so important, but if a girl is having sex with a boy much younger than them there can be a problem. She says, "So that's where, you know - so - even if they lie and just say, 'Oh, he's the same age as me. Fifteen.' So you know like if they're - mainly fourteen and under we have to. It doesn't matter if their partner's the same age, younger - whatever. Fourteen and under we have to report." The boyfriend, not the girl.
And again, if a very young girl is found to have STDs, it is extremely important to get them treated. In this video Woodruff is advising them on how to get the girls to a doctor even when the system is stacked against them. It's not pretty, but if it were you or me bringing our daughters in we'd want to know what not to say.
There are three points to make here. First of all, what was she supposed to do? Send these people away so these poor girls got no medical attention and disappeared out into the streets? Or get them to come back, to bring the girls in, so a doctor can evaluate them and if a crime is being committed it can be brought to the attention of authorities? Remember, prostitutes can go to the doctor, too, there is nothing wrong with treating a prostitute, especially if you are checking them for STDs. There is nothing inherently wrong with Planned Parenthood accepting a prostitute as a patient, even a young one.
Second point: she reported it. I have not seen a full description of the chain of communication, but Amy Woodruff spent time alone with these people and then somehow the New Jersey Planned Parenthood reported them to the FBI. So it seems that Ms. Woodruff was playing these people, and reported the alleged sex-trafficking of foreign juveniles to her supervisors, just as she should. On the video she appears to be willing to help the pimp and prostitute, but in undeniable fact is that she turned them in.
Finally, Planned Parenthood blew it here. I'm sorry, but this was a time to circle the wagons. This is exactly like the Obama administration firing Shirley Sherrod, or Congress de-funding ACORN, I don't like to use this kind of language on the blog but the only word I know for it is chickenshit. I am sure they were unhappy to hear what Ms. Woodruff said, showing people how to get around the rules, telling them to lie, calling the nurse practitioner a terrible name (hear what she called her in the second part of the unedited video HERE). I'll bet they wanted to fire her. But this was not the time for it. This was time to say "We support our employee from these scurrilous attacks and will treat any irregularities as a personnel matter," and come right back in the face of the people who perpetrated the hoax. By firing Woodruff, Planned Parenthood has appeared to admit guilt, and as far as I can see they aren't guilty of anything. Maybe it's just me, but when somebody tries to humiliate you and you haven't done anything wrong you fight back.
Media Matters notes a fourth point. Ms. Woodruff makes it clear that the pimp and prostitute need to be careful what they say around the nurse practitioner and others who work in the office; she tells them to ask for her when they come back. Even if she knows what's up, she makes it clear that some of the things she is advising are against Planned Parenthood policy and would not be permitted if others found out. If you accept the interpretation that she is trying to help them in their criminal enterprise -- and not just that she is playing them along to get them to come back to face the law -- then Woodruff looks like a bad apple, and Planned Parenthood comes out smelling like a rose.
When I first heard about this and saw the video I laughed it off, wrote about it here, and like a lot of people figured that reporting the sex-trafficking to the FBI would have kept the stain off of Planned Parenthood. But their response was wrong, they backed down in fear when they should have stood tall. I won't be surprised if the organization is gone altogether in a year, joining ACORN in the trashbin after providing a crucial service to American women since 1921.
BTW, a second video was released, and it essentially has caused no furor at all, as the Planned Parenthood employee "appears to act professionally and appropriately, informing the couple of their legal rights to privacy under the law, regardless of their backgrounds," according to ABC News.
The right thing to do, right? Yes, of course, Planned Parenthood did exactly what they were supposed to do.
Live Action released one of their (highly edited) videos this week, showing a Planned Parenthood clinic manager, Amy Woodruff, talking with a couple posing as a pimp and prostitute. Then Planned Parenthood fired Woodruff, saying the video showed her "behaving in a repugnant manner that is inconsistent with our standards of care and is completely unacceptable."
I sat through the entire video yesterday, in fact I made a transcript of it, and I'm not sure what Ms. Woodruff did wrong. Oh, it's not pretty. She gives them advice on how to game the system, for instance, she says if teenage girls claim to be students they can get a better price on birth control pills. But I'm sorry, if you or I went into, say, Verizon, and the guy told us we could get a better deal by claiming to be ... something, tourists, maybe, or seniors ... we'd appreciate it, we wouldn't get the guy fired, even if he told us to say something that was not strictly true. It's not that.
The New York Times had a typical story, they wrote that "The manager gave advice on how to get medical care for under-age prostitutes." Okay, so what do you do? Do you send the people away, and leave these poor girls to suffer with their STD's and pass them on to their customers? Underage prostitutes need medical attention even more than the rest of us. And if you can get this pimp and prostitute to come into the clinic you can blow the whistle on them. Given the circumstances, I'd say the best thing to do is to string them along and get them to come back so the law can deal with them -- exactly what Woodruff did.
Some of the comments are off-the-wall and embarrassing, the lady is very informal and casual about the rules, and you can easily see why Planned Parenthood is unhappy with her. But for instance when the couple ask about getting abortions for fourteen-year-olds, Woodruff tells them that Planned Parenthood won't do that, and gives them the name of another place they can try. Toward the end of the interview she tells them that information will be reported to the State Department, but she says it in a way that does not alarm the hoaxers, it appears she makes it unclear intentionally.
I have seen some news reports that say she suggests that the girls should lie about their age, but that is not part of this video. There is a part where she talks about the age of the girls' sex partners, and I don't quite understand why that is so important, but if a girl is having sex with a boy much younger than them there can be a problem. She says, "So that's where, you know - so - even if they lie and just say, 'Oh, he's the same age as me. Fifteen.' So you know like if they're - mainly fourteen and under we have to. It doesn't matter if their partner's the same age, younger - whatever. Fourteen and under we have to report." The boyfriend, not the girl.
And again, if a very young girl is found to have STDs, it is extremely important to get them treated. In this video Woodruff is advising them on how to get the girls to a doctor even when the system is stacked against them. It's not pretty, but if it were you or me bringing our daughters in we'd want to know what not to say.
There are three points to make here. First of all, what was she supposed to do? Send these people away so these poor girls got no medical attention and disappeared out into the streets? Or get them to come back, to bring the girls in, so a doctor can evaluate them and if a crime is being committed it can be brought to the attention of authorities? Remember, prostitutes can go to the doctor, too, there is nothing wrong with treating a prostitute, especially if you are checking them for STDs. There is nothing inherently wrong with Planned Parenthood accepting a prostitute as a patient, even a young one.
Second point: she reported it. I have not seen a full description of the chain of communication, but Amy Woodruff spent time alone with these people and then somehow the New Jersey Planned Parenthood reported them to the FBI. So it seems that Ms. Woodruff was playing these people, and reported the alleged sex-trafficking of foreign juveniles to her supervisors, just as she should. On the video she appears to be willing to help the pimp and prostitute, but in undeniable fact is that she turned them in.
Finally, Planned Parenthood blew it here. I'm sorry, but this was a time to circle the wagons. This is exactly like the Obama administration firing Shirley Sherrod, or Congress de-funding ACORN, I don't like to use this kind of language on the blog but the only word I know for it is chickenshit. I am sure they were unhappy to hear what Ms. Woodruff said, showing people how to get around the rules, telling them to lie, calling the nurse practitioner a terrible name (hear what she called her in the second part of the unedited video HERE). I'll bet they wanted to fire her. But this was not the time for it. This was time to say "We support our employee from these scurrilous attacks and will treat any irregularities as a personnel matter," and come right back in the face of the people who perpetrated the hoax. By firing Woodruff, Planned Parenthood has appeared to admit guilt, and as far as I can see they aren't guilty of anything. Maybe it's just me, but when somebody tries to humiliate you and you haven't done anything wrong you fight back.
Media Matters notes a fourth point. Ms. Woodruff makes it clear that the pimp and prostitute need to be careful what they say around the nurse practitioner and others who work in the office; she tells them to ask for her when they come back. Even if she knows what's up, she makes it clear that some of the things she is advising are against Planned Parenthood policy and would not be permitted if others found out. If you accept the interpretation that she is trying to help them in their criminal enterprise -- and not just that she is playing them along to get them to come back to face the law -- then Woodruff looks like a bad apple, and Planned Parenthood comes out smelling like a rose.
When I first heard about this and saw the video I laughed it off, wrote about it here, and like a lot of people figured that reporting the sex-trafficking to the FBI would have kept the stain off of Planned Parenthood. But their response was wrong, they backed down in fear when they should have stood tall. I won't be surprised if the organization is gone altogether in a year, joining ACORN in the trashbin after providing a crucial service to American women since 1921.
BTW, a second video was released, and it essentially has caused no furor at all, as the Planned Parenthood employee "appears to act professionally and appropriately, informing the couple of their legal rights to privacy under the law, regardless of their backgrounds," according to ABC News.
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LONDON -- Five hundred years ago, the Catholic Church had a simple way of dealing with witches: It burned them alive. The Vatican still views these broom botherers as a danger, but is now calling on Catholics to eliminate the neo-pagan problem in a more moderate manner.
According to a new booklet from the Catholic Truth Society -- the U.K. publishers for the Holy See -- the faithful can convert Wiccans by following a few simple steps. The pamphlet, titled "Wicca and Witchcraft: Understanding the Dangers," suggests that Catholics spark up conversations with these unbelievers about shared concerns such as the environment.
And if you bump into a witch in a bar or coffee shop, the book adds, it's important to recognize that "Wiccans are on a genuine spiritual quest," providing "the starting point for dialog that may lead to their conversion."
The booklet's author, former Wiccan Elizabeth Dodd, states that nearly 70 percent of people indulging in witchcraft are young women seeking some kind of spirituality. The source of that statistic isn't clear, but some 7,000 Brits identified themselves as Wiccans in the 2001 census.
So why does the Vatican once again feel that it needs to confront pagan practitioners? The Daily Mail says that the church is afraid the dark arts are becoming ever more tempting thanks to the success of Harry Potter. Dodd says that any youngster who dabbles in magic risks long-term problems.
"Whether spellwork is effective or not," writes Dodd, "has no bearing on the psychological damage that can be done to a young person who is convinced that they have summoned the dead, or have performed a spell that has hurt or injured another."
More important, Dodd adds that the simple act of experimenting with spellcraft is an insult to the Almighty. "The use of magic, the practice of witchcraft, offends God because it is rooted in our sinful and fallen nature," she writes. "It attempts to usurp God."
The message has clearly been heeded by many Catholics. As of this morning, the pamphlet was listed as sold-out on Amazon.co.uk.
Good news!
To commemorate the 100th birthday of the greatest President of the twentieth century on Sunday, plans will be announced to begin planning on the Reagan face for Mount Rushmore and next week, a bill will be introduced to replace FDR with the Gipper on dimes.
After the Rushmore addition is complete, South Dakota will be renamed Reagana and North Dakota will be renamed Dakota.
There should still be room for Sarah Palin in Keystone.
Sarah's likeness in stone belongs on Stone Mountain, with those other losers who wanted to return to the founders' ideals -- especially a black man should only count as 3/5th of a white man -- Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Jefferson Davis.
"Stone Mountain was the setting for the 1915 revival of the Ku Klux Klan. The mountain was the site of annual Klan rallies from 1931 until 1981."
"Ku Klux Klan activities at Stone Mountain are deep-rooted, although the original conception of the memorial pre-dates the 1915 revival of the Klan. The revival of the Ku Klux Klan was emboldened by the release of D. W. Griffith's Klan-glorifying film The Birth of a Nation, and by the lynching of Leo Frank, who was convicted in the murder of Mary Phagan. On November 25, 1915, a group of robed and hooded men met at Stone Mountain to create a new incarnation of the Klan. They were led by William J. Simmons, and they included a group calling itself the Knights of Mary Phagan. A cross was lit, and the oath was administered by Nathan Bedford Forrest II, the grandson of the original Imperial Grand Wizard, Gen. Nathan B. Forrest, and was witnessed by the owner of Stone Mountain, Samuel Venable.
Fundraising for the monument resumed in 1923, and in October of that year, Venable granted the Klan easement with perpetual right to hold celebrations as they desired. Because of their deep involvement with the early fund-raising and their increasing political clout in Georgia, the Klan, along with the United Daughters of the Confederacy, were able to influence the ideology of the carving, and they strongly supported an explicitly Confederate memorial. Of the $250,000 raised, part came directly from the Ku Klux Klan but part came from the federal government, which in 1924 issued special fifty-cent coins with Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson on them."
It's a good thing we're in America. We celebrate everyone's right to freedom of religion. Wiccans are just as welcome to worship here as Catholics are, here in the ever-welcoming USA.
Also in America we have laws that presume innocence unless and until someone is proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers. PPFA was wrong to fire their worker who reported the illegal alien underage prostitution ring hoax to the Justice Department. The perpetrators of the hoax should be prosecuted for perpetrating fraud.
"Sarah's likeness in stone belongs on Stone Mountain, with those other losers who wanted to return to the founders' ideals -- especially a black man should only count as 3/5th of a white man"
this is a classic baseless statement by a TTF supporter
Palin has never displayed a scintilla of racism
"It's a good thing we're in America. We celebrate everyone's right to freedom of religion. Wiccans are just as welcome to worship here as Catholics are, here in the ever-welcoming USA."
Indeed, they are. I don't think any Catholics would deny that. (btw, I'm not Catholic)
Freedom of religion also includes the freedom to promote, advance and argue for your religion. The Catholic book is a perfect example of how religious freedom should work.
The funniest thing was, in the last couple of years, when Richard Dawson statrting spending money to to advertise on buses and other public venues about atheism. He thought we would be threatened but actually free discussion favors Christianity.
In most places, the kind of freedom we enjoy will tend to advance Christianity since it's the most logical viewpoint.
In places where Christianity doesn't flourish, it's because it's suppressed.
"Also in America we have laws that presume innocence unless and until someone is proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers."
You noticed.
I'll tell ya. You can't get anything by these TTFers.
"PPFA was wrong to fire their worker who reported the illegal alien underage prostitution ring hoax to the Justice Department."
Well, that's internal matter. I guess they decided the response the worker gave didn't adhere to their policies. Do you really know enough about the facts to say whether their personnel decision was "wrong"?
In any case, it has nothing to do with our criminal justice system. You're convoluting two different arenas.
"The perpetrators of the hoax should be prosecuted for perpetrating fraud."
Reporters and law enforcement agencies do sting operations all the time. They aren't illegal, even if they tend to expose the liberal agenda.
Believe or not, the purpose of our society is not to promote the liberal agenda.
And the purpose of the press is not to confuse and confound the truth.
I don't know why those on the right never ask themselves why there is so much editing of these tapes of ACORN, Shirley Sherrod, and now Planned Parenthood, that purport to "expose the [so-called] liberal agenda" It's because the people who make these tapes are not interested in the truth, they are more concerned with trying to create a big bad scary liberal agenda that does not exist to scare people. This is how the right operates. From the Klan to Fox News to the new crop like Breitbart and O'Keefe, that's what the right wing does, it spreads fear and misinformation.
Here's another example of fear and misinformation being spread.
"In the year leading up to President Obama's signing of the Affordable Care Act, and in the year since, there's been no shortage of information -- and misinformation -- about the sweeping health care reform law.
Among all the headlines about Medicaid expansion and rhetoric about "death panels," how well do Americans understand what the law actually entails? That's the question behind a survey out Wednesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation.
The survey, in the form of a "pop quiz," asked Americans whether they thought a series of 10 provisions were included in the new law. Five items (ie. subsidies for low- and-moderate-income families, tax credits to businesses that provide health insurance) are in the measure and five items (ie. the aforementioned "death panels," coverage for illegal immigrants) are not.
Kaiser found that a quarter of respondents got seven out of 10 answers right, but less than one percent responded to all 10 questions correctly. Overall, 65 percent got five or more answers right.
On the other hand, fully a third scored zero to four, with two percent failing to get a single question right.
Along party lines, Democrats, who largely favor the law, received the highest scores. Fully 32 percent of Democrats got seven to 10 answers right.
Only 18 percent of Republicans answered seven to 10 questions correctly. The GOP generally opposes the measure and its leaders in the House recently voted to repeal it. A similar push for repeal in the Senate failed Wednesday.
The survey found that a majority of Americans can identify certain provisions as being part of the ACA, but many have "false impressions" about the law. According to Kaiser:
'Six in ten (59 percent) think the law creates a government run health plan, which it does not. And roughly two in three (65 percent) think that all businesses -- even the smallest -- will be required to provide health insurance, when in fact businesses with fewer than 50 employees are exempt from this requirement.'
As for the myth about the so-called "death panels," fully four in 10 believe the legislation allows a government panel to make decisions about end-of-life care for people on Medicare. Less than half answered correctly that "death panels" are not included in the law.
Read the complete results of the Kaiser survey here.
Be sure to scroll down to the section called "The High Scorers" where you'll see that those who got the most answers wrong and the fewest answers right were Republicans, opposed to health care reform, and FOX news viewers.
"Palin has never displayed a scintilla of racism"
According to her father, Palin left after a single semester in college in Hawaii because
"the presence of so many Asians and Pacific Islanders made her uncomfortable: “They were a minority type thing and it wasn’t glamorous, so she came home."
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/reports-have-sarah-palin-leaving-hawaii-college-because-of-being-uncomfortable-with-asians#ixzz1D6YqiOYQ
So Sambo beat the bitch:
"According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.
“It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole.
Then, almost with a sigh, she added, “But that’s just Alaska.”
Racial and ethnic slurs may be “just Alaska” and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin.
Besides insulting Obama with a Step-N’-Fetch-It, “darkie musical” swipe, people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs” – how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description – as well as the more colourful “mukluks” along with the totally unimaginative “f**king Eskimo’s,” according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article."
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TKtc15YImkwJ:www.laprogressive.com/election-reform-campaigns/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-“racist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean”/+palin+racist+comments&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist was quoted by Sarah Palin in her acceptance speech. "Interest in Pegler was revived when a line originally written by him appeared in Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Sarah Palin's acceptance speech at the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota. "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity", she said, attributing it to "a writer.""
Pegler was "a writer" for the John Birch Society until his views became so extreme they invited him to leave.
"I don't know why those on the right never ask themselves why there is so much editing of these tapes of ACORN, Shirley Sherrod, and now Planned Parenthood, that purport to "expose the [so-called] liberal agenda" It's because the people who make these tapes are not interested in the truth,"
I don't know the specifics but it's hard to imagine any case where someone makes a tape and doesn't edit it
I know TV reporters would go out of business if they had to play all videotape of sting operations they conduct in their entirety
there's not enough time in the world
I don't know why those on the left never ask themselves why they let themselves be duped into repeating such illogical asertions
"In the year leading up to President Obama's signing of the Affordable Care Act, and in the year since, there's been no shortage of information -- and misinformation -- about the sweeping health care reform law."
maybe that's because Obama did so much lying about the bill
"Among all the headlines about Medicaid expansion and rhetoric about "death panels," how well do Americans understand what the law actually entails?"
it's kind of high standard when most legislators knew little about what was in the thousands of pages in the bill because they were in such a haste to ram it through because of the circumstances of Scott Brown's election
"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity"
when this quote by Sarah Palin is considered to prove she's a racist, you know there's someone grasping at straws
"Aliens have contacted humans several times but governments have hidden the truth for 60 years, the sixth man to walk on the moon has claimed.
Apollo 14 astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell, said he was aware of many UFO visits to Earth during his career with NASA but each one was covered up.
Dr Mitchell said that sources at the space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as 'little people who look strange to us.'
He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional image of a small frame, large eyes and head.
Chillingly, he claimed our technology is 'not nearly as sophisticated' as theirs and "had they been hostile", he warned 'we would be been gone by now'.
Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17 minutes following their 1971 mission.
'I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real,' Dr Mitchell said.
'It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60 years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been privileged to have been briefed on some of it.
'I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a bit.'
Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits continue to be investigated.
He said: "This is really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure and some serious organisations are moving in that direction.'"
I'm a conservative who would never vote for Palin for a number of valid reasons, but REALLY! A quote from an anonymous waitress who won't even give her name? How are we to believe THAT?!
ho ho
a lot of TTF supporters are anonymous waitresses in tundra-type locations like Alaska and Saskatchewan
life sometimes must get lonely
And what is the profession of the Anonymous troll who can't get enough TTF day after day, month after month, year after year?
Oh that's right, only Anon's privacy is of the utmost importance but a waitress who heard Palin speak has to lay her name out there for the gun toting tea baggers to take aim at in order to be credible to Anon. I guess that means if we were to apply Anon's logic to Anon's own comments posted here on Vigilance, we can't believe a word Anon has posted without signing his real name to it, which of course is every single thing Anon has ever posted here. Isn't that right, "Anonymous?"
"I don't know the specifics but it's hard to imagine any case where someone makes a tape and doesn't edit it"
Well sure, you watch FOX news so you must expect lots of truth bending editing of video tapes. Because let's be clear, that's what we're talking about here -- videotape editing to the degree that the video no longer reports what actually happened.
Like the O'Keefe tapes of ACORN that were edited so much as to make it appear that O'Keefe and his lady friend were dressed as a pimp and a whore when they visited the ACORN offices, but which analysis of the ENTIRE tapes proved was not the case. The tape was edited to make lies and falsehoods appear to be the truth.
Or like the Breitbart tape of Shirley Sherrod that left out the part where she said she was talking about a moment of doubt she experienced decades earlier in her career that made her see the error of her ways and revealed to her that poverty is colorblind, it effects both blacks and whites and both need help. That's the part Breitbart didn't want to admit was on the tapes until he was shamed into it by a liberal blogger.
That the kind of editing you expect in all the videos you watch, naturally, as you are a steady viewer of FOX News.
Some of us have higher standards that we expect of the journalists we listen to -- we expect them to report the truth as they find it, not as they manufacture it -- and I suggest you raise your standards in that regard too. The least you can do is stop repeating the debunked lies of these lying liars like O'Keefe, Breitbart, Palin, and McCaughey you put your trust in.
President Obama said Sunday that he does not know when President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt will leave office.
"Only he knows what he's going to do," Obama told Bill O'Reilly of Fox News in a 15-minute interview aired before the Super Bowl on the Fox network.
O'Reilly began the interview, which was hyped only slightly less than the Super Bowl itself, by thanking the president for assisting two Fox News reporters who were severely beaten as they fled violence in Tahrir Square.
"Those guys showed enormous courage," Obama said of Greg Palkot and Olaf Wiig. "And so not only was it important for us to make sure they were safe, for them and their families, but to uphold the basic principle of free speech and freedom of the press. That's a universal value we care about and I know Fox cares about."
Obama bonding with FOX
that guy is catching on to the whole "bein' presidential" thing
"Well sure, you watch FOX news so you must expect lots of truth bending editing of video tapes. Because let's be clear, that's what we're talking about here -- videotape editing to the degree that the video no longer reports what actually happened."
Planned Parenthood must disagree with Bea about the tapes the same way President Obama disagrees with her about FOX.
They used the tape as a basis for terminating an errant employee.
Does anyone anywhere agree with Bea?
Obama wasn't "bonding" with Bill Orally. He was "being diplomatic," another important Presidential skill and one we did without during the Bush years.
The American legal system set up by our forefathers agrees with me, Anon. That Planned Parenthood employee is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law before a jury of her peers. A "highly edited videotape" is not proof of anything other than O'Keefe's associate, Lila Rose's bias.
Countless people agree with me that the use of this tired old "look how bad we can make you look with highly edited videos" gimmick to bring down ACORN and to get Shirley Sherrod fired from her job was wrong too. If you can stay in the real world long enough, you might remember the FBI even arrested O'Keefe for his attempt to make some "highly edited videotapes" in Mary Landrieu's Senate office.
Once a full investigation is done, then the guilt or innocence of the Planned Parenthood employee can be honestly determined, but until then per the American legal system, she should be considered innocent.
Last time I checked, an employee could be fired without a jury...
ho ho ho!
an employee could be fired without a jury
That's true, Anon, and the last time I checked, a wrongly fired employee can be apologized to and rehired. We all remember Shirley Sherrod was fired from her job, and then after a fuller investigation showed the videotape that got her fired was "highly edited" to the point it did not represent the truth of what she said, Mrs. Sherrod received an apology and an offer of a job from her employer. It is possible in the future after the unedited tapes of this Planned Parenthood employee are investigated, she'll be apologized to and offered her job back too. Perhaps next time O'Keefe and his lie-manufacturing thugs enter an office under false pretenses the FBI will arrest them like they did when O'Keefe and his gang entered and tried to bug Senator Landrieu's office.
the sting pullede on Planned Parenthood is not illegal and the liberal media should be glad it is so
few of them would be free if it were
nothing enrages liberals like Bea the Looneybird than when liberal techniques are used by conservatives
and while PP may have been found not to be doing certain things, that's not to say their employee was
they obviously investigated the incident and made their determination about the employee's behavior
"The American legal system set up by our forefathers agrees with me"
actually, it doesn't
you apparently can't distinguish between the rules of an employer and criminal law
the legal system of our forefathers, in the process of being restored by the Tea Party, delineates between the two clearly
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"Obama wasn't "bonding" with Bill Orally. He was "being diplomatic," another important Presidential skill."
Ho, ho!
that's an unusual interpretation
not long ago, Obama was so full of himself that he thought he could snub FOX
he has now realized the error of his ways so maybe it's time for Bea to realize the error of her attitude
"The American legal system set up by our forefathers agrees with me, Anon. That Planned Parenthood employee is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law before a jury of her peers."
o, ho, ho!
no one has accused the employee of criminal violations
"Countless people agree with me that the use of this tired old "look how bad we can make you look with highly edited videos" gimmick"
oh, yeah
countless millions are in complete agreement with Bea
wonder why they don't vote...
Once a full investigation is done, then the guilt or innocence of the Planned Parenthood employee can be honestly determined, but until then per the American legal system, she should be considered innocent.
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