The Revelation of Russian Hackers
The Post came out the other day with a story about a secret CIA report saying that Russia pulled strings to help Trump win the election. People have been saying this all along, so it wasn't really news -- it's weird, go back and google it and you will see talk about Russian hackers going back well before the election. The new breaking story was just the emails, nothing to do with fake news which was the more interesting propaganda development, to my mind.
Honestly I have a real problem with "news" about "secret reports" -- if it's secret then why is it on the front page of The Post? Somebody in the government committed a crime by giving secret information to a reporter, and that is how we, the public, find out about things. If a government employee gives out information because of their conscience they are charged with a crime, if they do it for political reasons, no problem. So now we find out that before the election the President and Congress knew the Russians had given Hillary's emails to Wikileaks in order to get Trump elected. But because of backroom deal-making between the parties the Director of the FBI -- who had also been briefed by the CIA about this -- was able to pull Hillary down from her lead without any interference by the people who knew what was going on.
Apparently the Russians had gotten into both the Democratic and Republican inside-baseball email systems and gave the Democrats' information to Wikileaks. That means they saved the Republicans' emails, which can be used for blackmail later -- watch the word kompromat enter the English vocabulary. Trump now has called the CIA big fat liars and is busy carrying on a beauty pageant to find the very worst person for each cabinet position. And yeah, that's our country at the moment.
The funny thing is that the Repubicans "won" the election and are not inclined to question exactly how that happened. Hillary has washed off her makeup and is done with it all, Trump is gloating and tweeting up in his golden tower, and a doomed populace is hoping that enough electors will switch sides, or that we can have the election again, or something. But the winners are now running the show and they -- of course -- don't want do-overs.
It's funny that the one system that was not breached is Hillary's private email server, which the Republicans and the media kept the public focused on.
The asymmetry of this year's election campaign was bizarre but nobody really commented on it. On one hand we read every detail of Hillary Clinton's life, we had her financial records and a million emails between her people. It was actually amazing that there was not any scandal in all that, the DNC was unfair to Bernie but you knew that already. Oh, and "pizza" means "molesting children." The FBI had to go so far as to drag Anthony Weiner into it, to poison the atmosphere surrounding Hillary after nothing came out of her staff's emails. On the other side, there was nothing, total information blackout, and people were fine with that. Donald Trump did not even release his tax records so nobody knows if he has money, who he owes, what businesses he is involved in. And the Russians are hanging onto his emails, which we don't get to see. So instead of talking about the unfairness of one side being totally exposed to the public while the other operates in darkness, we obsessed over the details of the Democrats' emails, which were public. On one hand we had a candidate we knew everything about, warts and all, and on the other side... a pig in a poke. Which we elected President.
Honestly I have a real problem with "news" about "secret reports" -- if it's secret then why is it on the front page of The Post? Somebody in the government committed a crime by giving secret information to a reporter, and that is how we, the public, find out about things. If a government employee gives out information because of their conscience they are charged with a crime, if they do it for political reasons, no problem. So now we find out that before the election the President and Congress knew the Russians had given Hillary's emails to Wikileaks in order to get Trump elected. But because of backroom deal-making between the parties the Director of the FBI -- who had also been briefed by the CIA about this -- was able to pull Hillary down from her lead without any interference by the people who knew what was going on.
Apparently the Russians had gotten into both the Democratic and Republican inside-baseball email systems and gave the Democrats' information to Wikileaks. That means they saved the Republicans' emails, which can be used for blackmail later -- watch the word kompromat enter the English vocabulary. Trump now has called the CIA big fat liars and is busy carrying on a beauty pageant to find the very worst person for each cabinet position. And yeah, that's our country at the moment.
The funny thing is that the Repubicans "won" the election and are not inclined to question exactly how that happened. Hillary has washed off her makeup and is done with it all, Trump is gloating and tweeting up in his golden tower, and a doomed populace is hoping that enough electors will switch sides, or that we can have the election again, or something. But the winners are now running the show and they -- of course -- don't want do-overs.
It's funny that the one system that was not breached is Hillary's private email server, which the Republicans and the media kept the public focused on.
The asymmetry of this year's election campaign was bizarre but nobody really commented on it. On one hand we read every detail of Hillary Clinton's life, we had her financial records and a million emails between her people. It was actually amazing that there was not any scandal in all that, the DNC was unfair to Bernie but you knew that already. Oh, and "pizza" means "molesting children." The FBI had to go so far as to drag Anthony Weiner into it, to poison the atmosphere surrounding Hillary after nothing came out of her staff's emails. On the other side, there was nothing, total information blackout, and people were fine with that. Donald Trump did not even release his tax records so nobody knows if he has money, who he owes, what businesses he is involved in. And the Russians are hanging onto his emails, which we don't get to see. So instead of talking about the unfairness of one side being totally exposed to the public while the other operates in darkness, we obsessed over the details of the Democrats' emails, which were public. On one hand we had a candidate we knew everything about, warts and all, and on the other side... a pig in a poke. Which we elected President.
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On CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Donald Trump’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, fielded questions about allegations that Vladimir Putin’s Russian government took deliberate steps to help put Trump in the White House. Conway said there’s “no evidence” to support the allegation, thought the Central Intelligence Agency clearly disagrees.
But just as importantly Conway characterized concerns about Russian interference as something new: “[I]f you go back and you listen to Clinton campaign spokespeople on your program and others, if you listen to their private briefings to media and others, they said very little about this.”
Trump himself pushed a similar line this morning via Twitter: “Why wasn’t this brought up before election?”
It was brought up before the election – many, many times.
Hillary Clinton, for example, brought up this scandal in the first presidential debate, and then pushed the line even more aggressively in the second, only to keep driving the point home in the third.
“It’s pretty clear you won’t admit that the Russians have engaged in cyberattacks against the United States of America, that you encouraged espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him, because he has a very clear favorite in this race.
“So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We’ve never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election. We have 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.”
And it wasn’t just Clinton. The White House put the spotlight on this; congressional Democrats did the same; hell, I wrote wrote dozens of posts about this myself.
Even Mike Pence, Trump’s own running mate, conceded in October that there’s “more and more evidence that implicates Russia” in the cyber-attacks. Pence added that “there should be serious consequences” for Russia.
“Why wasn’t this brought up before election?” For crying out loud, it was brought up before the election, repeatedly. Voters largely overlooked the story, however, in part because Trump refused to acknowledge the scandal’s existence, and in part because Hillary Clinton’s clumsy I.T. practices were considered vastly more important than a foreign adversary taking unprecedented steps to intervene in an American election in support for Vladimir Putin’s preferred candidate.
Republicans may not like recent history, but they shouldn’t be allowed to rewrite it.
Hillary Clinton's campaign has thrown its support behind an effort to provide members of the Electoral College with intelligence briefings on Russian breaches of U.S. political organizations before the College formally votes to elect Donald Trump president next week.
"The bipartisan electors' letter raises very grave issues involving our national security. Electors have a solemn responsibility under the Constitution and we support their efforts to have their questions addressed," Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said Monday, responding to a request for briefings by a group of electors.
Podesta's strongly worded statement signals a clear shift in strategy from Clinton and her team, who have until now shown no interest in questioning the legitimacy of last month's election. And it could crack the door to further challenges or give succor to some Democrats' long-shot hope that Trump's election could be upended when the Electoral College convenes December 19.
A large trove of Podesta's emails were released by WikiLeaks late in the campaign, and intelligence officials believe the emails were provided to the organization by the Russians.
Trump defeated Clinton in the general election by an electoral vote margin of 306-232. Since then, Clinton has pulled ahead of Trump by a popular vote margin of nearly 3 million.
Four powerful senators — two Democrats, two Republicans — released a statement calling for a joint probe into Russia's actions.
"We now know that the CIA has determined Russia's interference in our elections was for the purpose of electing Donald Trump. This should distress every American. Never before in the history of our Republic have we seen such an effort to undermine the bedrock of our democracy. This is not a partisan issue and we are glad to see bipartisan support in the Congress for an investigation into Russia's role," Podesta said in his statement.
Trump and his campaign have vehemently denied any Russian intervention on their behalf, accusing the intelligence agencies he will soon head of being politicized and misinformed. Some allies, including John Bolton, a potential senior Trump State Department nominee, have even accused the Obama Administration without evidence of hacking the Democratic National Committee and Podesta's personal Gmail account in a "false flag" operation.
Earlier Monday, a group of 10 Electors, including some well known Democrats and one Republican, sent an open letter to James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, requesting briefings on alleged Russian meddling in the election.
"The Electors require to know from the intelligence community whether there are ongoing investigations into ties between Donald Trump, his campaign or associates, and Russian government interference in the election," their letter reads. "We further require a briefing on all investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the United States."
Oops! Rick Perry Reportedly Tapped To Lead Agency He Forgot He Wanted to Eliminate
got news for you: the Departments of Energy and Education will be eliminated
remember the quote from Chairman Barack: elections have consequences
Then Rick Perry will once again be unemployed.
Oops!
"These [former presidents] were all fallible men. But they were great men. And they all possessed a goodness and decency that allowed them to rise above the petty, the personal and the partisan for the good of the nation.
The White House has been occupied by giants. But from time to time it is sought by the small-minded — divisive figures propelled by anger, and appealing to the worst instincts in the human condition.
In times of trouble, there are two types of leaders: repairers of the breach and sowers of discord.
The sower of discord foments agitation, thrives on division, scapegoats certain elements of society, and offers empty platitudes and promises. He is without substance when one scratches below the surface.
He offers a barking carnival act that can be best described as Trumpism: a toxic mix of demagoguery, mean-spiritedness and nonsense that will lead the Republican Party to perdition if pursued.
Let no one be mistaken — Donald Trump’s candidacy is a cancer on conservatism, and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded.
It cannot be pacified or ignored, for it will destroy a set of principles that has lifted more people out of poverty than any force in the history of the civilized world — the cause of conservatism...
We will be no better off with a Republican divider in the White House than the current Democrat divider in the White House.
Donald Trump the reality television star is a great generator of ratings. But Donald Trump the candidate is a sower of division, wrongly demonizing Mexican-Americans for political sport.
It is wrong to paint with a broad brush Hispanic men and women in this country who have fought and died for freedom from the Alamo to Afghanistan. He scapegoats Hispanics to appeal to our worst instincts, when we need a president who appeals to our best.
This is not new in America.
In the 1840’s the "Know Nothings" emerged as a political movement, scapegoating Irish and German immigrants for the problems of the nation.
They were obsessively anti-Catholic, so much so that when the Pope sent marble for the building of the Washington Monument, they smashed it to pieces and helped delay its construction for 35 years.
These people built nothing, created nothing. They existed to cast blame and tear down certain institutions. To give outlet to anger.
Donald Trump is the modern-day incarnation of the know-nothing movement.
He espouses nativism, not conservatism. He is negative when conservatism is inherently optimistic.
He would divide us along bloodlines, when conservatives believe our policies will work for people of all backgrounds.
He has piqued the interest of some Republican voters who have legitimate concerns about a porous border and broken immigration system. But instead of offering those voters leadership or solutions, he has offered fear and soundbites. This cannot stand.
Conservatism doesn’t foment agitation through identity politics. That’s what Democrats do. But as a supporter of socialized medicine, the stimulus package and Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump is quite suited to follow the Democrats’ example.
I, for one, will not be silent when a candidate for the high office of president runs under the Republican banner by targeting millions of Hispanics, and our veterans, with mean-spirited vitriol...."
..."I will not go quiet when this cancer on conservatism threatens to metastasize into a movement of mean-spirited politics that will send the Republican Party to the same place it sent the Whig Party in 1854: the graveyard.
As a veteran, I took offense to his attack on Senator McCain, and I found lacking his defense that he spent a lot of money on veterans’ parades.
Donald Trump was born into privilege. He received deferments to avoid service in Vietnam. He breathes the free air thousands of heroes died protecting. And he couldn’t have endured for five minutes what John McCain endured for five and a half years.
Think what you want about Senator McCain’s politics, but let no one question his service to our country.
Here was a man offered the chance to go home. He refused, knowing it could cost him his life. There was no way he would leave before any man captured before him. This is the embodiment of duty, honor, country. Mr. Trump does not know the meaning of those words.
But most telling to me is not Mr. Trump’s bombast, his refusal to show any remorse for his comments about Senator McCain, but his admission that there is not a single time in his life that he sought the forgiveness of God.
A man too arrogant, too self-absorbed, to seek God’s forgiveness is precisely the type of leader John Adams prayed would never occupy the White House.
Adams, Lincoln, FDR — they all went before God on bended knee. They all held this office of great power with humility.
When a candidate under the Republican banner would abandon the tradition of magnanimous leadership of the presidency, when he would seek to demonize millions of citizens, when he would stoop to attack POWs for being captured, I can only ask as Senator Welch did of Senator McCarthy, "Have you no sense of decency, sir?"
My fellow Republicans, beware of false prophets. Do not let itching ears be tickled by messengers who appeal to anger, division and resentment.
Resentment is the poison we swallow that we hope harms another. My fellow Republicans, don’t take the poison.
Scripture tells us "a house divided against itself cannot stand."
The candidate who wins the Republican nomination for president will articulate the best vision of "a house united."
It will be based on a conservatism that works, that appeals to our better angels, that believes in the power of individuals, through hard work and thrift, to improve our lives.
We need a president who rises above personal grievances, petty differences, raw partisan politics. Who puts the nation first, who inspires Americans to believe again and produce again and dream again.
We must move past the empty calories of Trumpism, and return to conservatism."
But hey, it's not a deal-breaker, amirite??
on this day, 16 years ago:
Al Gore gave up trying to undermine the democratic process and admitted he lost the election
Hillary?
Hillary conceded on election night.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-privately-concedes-in-phone-call-to-donald-trump/
The Electors, however, may be another story.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/electors-intelligence-briefing-trump-russia-232498
And while I am dispensing facts for the willfully uninformed, here's another
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2016-arctic-report-card-global-warming_us_58504a9fe4b04c8e2bb249b8
"Hillary conceded on election night"
oh, Gore did too
he just changed his mind faster than Hillary
"The Electors, however, may be another story."
the electors are being subjected to an unprecedented onslaught of pressure from Hillary's camp to go against their voters
additionally, Hillary has joined recount efforts with another loser
and her campaign chairman wants the CIA to tell electors that Trump won because of Russian interference
"And while I am dispensing facts for the willfully uninformed, here's another"
not to worry, Ivanka is on this
Al Gore and Trump have already met
first priority: reduce Al's carbon footprint and try to reverse some of the damage he's done
and we have a great incoming head for the EPA
you kids may remember that I predicted last year that Trump would win because he had such a strong following among union workers in rust belt states
the polls said I was wrong so I was shocked on election night with the results in Wisconsin and Michigan
shocked
well, I also said that he would be highly popular among blacks once elected and break up the monolithic black support for Dems when he goes for a second term
yesterday, Jim Brown met with him and he seems to agree with me:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jim-brown-i-fell-in-love-with-trump-after-todays-meeting/article/2609591
"and her campaign chairman wants the CIA to tell electors that Trump won because of Russian interference"
Nice spin.
Here are the facts:
"Ten Electoral College members have requested an intelligence briefing on Russia’s meddling in the U.S. presidential election, a week before the group is scheduled to formally certify the results.
The bipartisan group made their case to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper in an open letter Monday, arguing that the information is essential to their duties as electors who are tasked to “elect a president who is constitutionally qualified and fit to serve.”
Citing Alexander Hamilton’s writing in The Federalist Papers, the electors argue Russian interference in the election must factor into their decision. In Federalist #68, Hamilton charged the Electoral College with preventing a “desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.”
The Washington Post published details Friday of a CIA report that concluded Russia interfered with the U.S. presidential election to help Donald Trump win. The Trump camp responded by dismissing the report outright, despite calls from across the aisle for a more thorough investigation.
In a statement Monday, Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said he supports the electors’ efforts to seek more detailed information."
"http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yadayadabullshit'
You know what you can do with your Moonie crap.
Unlike you and Jim Brown, this nasty woman does not support your PUSSY GRABBER ELECT.
Donald Trump Will Be In Violation Of The Lease On His D.C. Hotel The Day He Takes Office
The General Services Administration says it has received no response from Trump.
"WASHINGTON ― President-elect Donald Trump will be in violation of the lease on his Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., the day he takes office, according to the agency that owns the lease.
In response to a letter from House Democrats, Michael Gelber, the deputy commissioner of the General Services Administration’s Public Buildings Service, said that Trump will be in breach of his lease as soon as he is sworn in on Jan. 20, 2017. The hotel lease specifically states that “no … elected official of the Government of the United States … shall be admitted to any share or part of this Lease, or to any benefit that may arise therefrom.”
Gelber informed House Democrats who penned the letter to the GSA, including House Oversight & Government Reform Committee ranking member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), Transportation & Infrastructure Committee ranking member Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) and Rep. Andre Carson (D-Ind.), that the only way to avoid a violation of contract would be if Trump fully divests his ownership interest in the hotel. He would still be in breach if he simply transfers management control to his two adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric Trump, as he has said he would do.
The Trump International Hotel in D.C. is just one of the many conflicts of interest facing the president-elect before he takes office, but it is one of the most glaring. Beyond the clear issue of whether he will be in violation of his contract with the government, upon assuming office Trump would be able to appoint a new head of the GSA, which would have to renegotiate terms of his lease with his children every year. This would put any GSA employee in a terribly uncomfortable and compromised position...."
In July, Republicans on the House Select Committee on Benghazi released a report, confirming what we already knew about the deadly terrorist attack in Libya four years ago, but the controversial panel didn’t officially wrap up its work. In fact, it continued to seek information about the attack even after its chairman, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), declared, “Our committee’s work is done.”
This week, however, the partisan committee, which failed in its efforts to find information damaging to Hillary Clinton, “quietly shut down” and will exist no longer.
“History will view the Benghazi Select Committee as a prime example of how not to conduct a congressional investigation as it goes down as one of the longest, least productive, and most partisan taxpayer-funded investigations in history,” Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the committee’s top Democrat, said in a statement Monday.
“Republicans voted on this partisan report five months ago, but delayed filing it and completing the Committee until after the election,” Cummings said. “Republicans promised a process that was fair and bipartisan, but the American people got exactly the opposite.”
This really is the end of a cringe-worthy process. The GOP’s Benghazi panel, duplicating the work that had already been done by six other congressional committees, spent millions of taxpayer dollars chasing down bizarre conspiracy theories, asking questions that had already been answered, and pulling together evidence that had already been exhaustively reviewed.
The result was a committee that was needlessly partisan, needlessly secretive, and ultimately pointless. Even Republicans who hoped the Benghazi Committee would produce anti-Clinton fodder were left to wonder about the point of this lengthy and unproductive exercise.
Indeed, this probe was among the longest in American history, and when it comes to congressional scrutiny of specific individual events – Pearl Harbor, 9/11, the Kennedy Assassination, Watergate, etc. – the Benghazi investigation was the longest ever.
Why does this matter now? A couple of reasons, actually.
First, it’s now obvious that years of far-right claims about Benghazi were wrong. Republicans invested years and vast resources to prove otherwise, but they failed spectacularly. The next time your crazy uncle sends you a weird email about Benghazi, you can remind him that GOP lawmakers tried to prove him right, but just couldn’t find any evidence to bolster the nonsense.
Second, if the Benghazi attack was worthy of seven congressional investigations, including a special select committee, to understand precisely what happened, then alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election deserves at least some attention on Capitol Hill.
Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed
A week has gone by since Donald Trump admitted he's only been to "two or three" of his daily presidential national security briefings. There have been 36 of them since the day he secured enough electoral college votes to be appointed president next Monday when the Electoral College meets.
Most would agree the #1 job of the leader of any country is to keep its people safe. There is no more important meeting every day for the President than the one where he learns what the day's potential threats are to the country. That Trump would find it too cumbersome or too annoying to have to sit through 20 minutes of listening to his top intelligence people tell him who's trying to kill us today, simply boggles the mind.
Of course, our minds have been so boggled so many times in the past year by this foolish man no one seems that surprised or concerned. He can get up at 5 in the morning and send angry, childish tweets about how he's being portrayed on SNL ("Not funny! Unwatchable!"), or belittling the local elected union leader in Indiana, but he doesn't have time to hear about the threats to our national security.
So, my fellow Americans, when the next terrorist attack happens -- and it will happen, we all know that -- and after the tragedy is over, amidst the death and destruction that might have been prevented, you will see Donald Trump acting quickly to blame everyone but himself. He will suspend constitutional rights. He will round up anyone he deems a threat. He will declare war, and his Republican Congress will back him.
And no one will remember that he wasn't paying attention to the growing threat. Wasn't attending the daily national security briefings. Was playing golf instead or meeting with celebrities or staying up til 3am tweeting about how unfair CNN is. He said he didn't need to be briefed. "You know, I think I'm smart. I don't need to hear the same thing over and over each day for eight years." That's what he told Fox News on December 11th when asked why he wasn't attending the security briefings. Don't forget that date and his hubris as we bury the dead next year....
... We had a president like him before. He, too, lost the popular vote, a majority of Americans saying they didn't want him in the Oval Office. But his governor/brother and his ex-CIA chief/dad's appointees to the Supreme Court put an end to that, and he was installed as Commander-in-Chief. On August 6, 2001, he was on a month-long vacation at his ranch in Texas. That morning, the White House Counsel handed him his daily national security briefing. He glanced at it, set it aside and then went fishing for the rest of the day. Below is the photo of that moment which I showed the world in "Fahrenheit 9/11". The headline on the security briefing reads: BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE INSIDE U.S. On the top page it tells how bin Laden will do this: with planes. George W. Bush didn't leave the ranch to go back to work for the next four weeks. In the fifth week, bin Laden attacked the US with planes on September 11th.
It's one thing to have a president who was asleep at the wheel. But, my friends, it's a whole other thing to now have a president-elect who REFUSES TO EVEN GET BEHIND THE WHEEL! This utter neglect of duty, a daily snub at the people who work to protect us, the first Commander-in-Chief to literally be AWOL and announcing proudly he isn't going to change -- this, I assure you, is going to get a lot of innocent people killed.
To you, Mr. Trump, I say this: When this next terrorist attack takes place, it is YOU who will be charged by the American people with a gross dereliction of duty. It was YOUR job to pay attention, to protect the country. But you were too busy tweeting and defending Putin and appointing cabinet members to dismantle the government. You didn't have time for the daily national security briefing. Don't think we're going to let you use a modern-day burning of the Reichstag as your excuse to eliminate our civil liberties and our democracy.
We will remember that while the plot to kill Americans was being hatched, your time was consumed by whom you saw as the real threat to America: Alec Baldwin in a wig.
the Dem Comedy Hour just gets more amusing by the day
so, Ben Carson is a bad pick because he has no experience
is running HUD more difficult than brain surgery?
and Elaine Chao is a bad pick because she has too much experience
and Puzder can't be Labor Secretary because he doesn't ant to raise minimum wage
but McDonald's is replacing human cashiers with automated kiosks in cities that have raised the wage
and Pruitt can't head EPA because he says scientists disagree about the extent of global warming
in Demland, if you don't believe in the worst scenario, you're a DENIER
if you don't agree with affirmative action, you're a RACIST
if you don't think gay "marriage" is a constitutional right, you're a HOMOPHOBE
it's argumentation by name-calling
funny, that's what they say about trump
they're always funny
like how they say he has no foreign policy experience
but when he names generals and businessmen who do, they are horrible because they've actually dealt with the Russians before
speaking of Russians, the Dems have a real funny one there:
they rigged the election against Hillary
how? by telling the truth?
they just took a few folks at high places
and shined a light in their beds
never once did anyone in the Hillary camp deny the veracity of the leaks
when we it occur to them that Americans no longer care what the Democrat-media-Hollywood complex has to say
Americans are just laughing their fool heads off
and to liberals they sing at every Trump thank you rally:
ya can't always get what you want
"speaking of Russians, the Dems have a real funny one there:
they rigged the election against Hillary"
and hypocrites to boot
remember how the DNC rigged the primary to make sure Bernie didn't win?
or how Trump would refuse to accept the result of the election if he lost?
http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/15/trump-to-unveil-supreme-court-pick-close-to-inauguration-aide/21628089/
U.S. Officials: Putin Personally Involved in U.S. Election Hack
Vladimir Putin’s Popularity Is Skyrocketing Among Republicans:
The guy is accused of manipulating U.S. politics and enabling the killing in Aleppo, and his favorability rating goes up. Seriously?
Yes, seriously. That's the way of the bubble dwellers who think they are going to make America great by bankrupting it while poisoning the earth for future generations.
Don't worry, the Dems will get elected and clean up the stinking mess you pussy grabbers will make of it once again, if of course, there's anything left to clean up.
This should be a time for a serious reappraisal by Democrats. Their party suffered a startling defeat last month from top to bottom. The Democrats’ way back must begin with understanding what happened and why.
Instead, many Democratic leaders are engaging in self-deception and looking for excuses. The Electoral College is a prime villain. But it isn’t the Founders’ fault that the Clinton campaign failed to turn out African-American voters in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Detroit and Milwaukee. The Electoral College didn’t force blue-collar voters and rural Democrats in the Midwest to defect from the Democratic Party. Clinton popular majority is the result of getting more votes than Obama did in states like California, where Trump underperformed Romney.
Jennifer Palmieri, the communications director for Hillary’s campaign, says that Trump gave “a platform to white supremacists.” Besides insulting the 55 million whites who voted for him, this doesn’t make sense. If Mr. Trump had appealed to white supremacy, it would have provoked a reaction in the form of a larger minority turnout for Democrats. Yet Hillary received fewer African-American votes than Democrats did four years ago. The fact is that Trump outperformed Romney among nonwhites across the board.
Harry Reid blames the FBI. Having once lavished praise on James Comey, he now blames the FBI director for Clinton’s loss. Reid says that Democrats “would have won the majority in the Senate and would have won the presidency but for Comey.”
Baloney. Comey’s real intervention came in July, when he overstepped his bounds and decided in the Justice Department’s stead that Clinton would not be charged. The FBI director did more to help Hillary than to hurt her.
Reid also blames the Democrats’ loss on the hacked emails from Clinton staffers. He says that Russian involvement was “as big a deal” as the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But the leaks did not create any new questions about Hillary's character. Millions of voters had already been convinced, during her quarter-century in the national spotlight, that she was dishonest.
Democrats refuse to face the truth: They lost the presidency principally because voters demanded change. Trump promised it in abundance, while Hillary represented the status quo. Her main selling point—her qualifications and experience—showed how out of touch with voters she was.
The irony is that now Democrats, delusionally, are attacking Mr. Trump’s cabinet because the nominees advocate dramatic changes in the departments they’ve been selected to lead. Apparently Democrats believe that government agencies were created only to advance liberal policies, and that the November elections were a mandate for more of the same.
Until Democrats confront the true reasons for their loss—an unpopular leftward tilt, declining support among working-class voters, out-of-touch leaders, and a thin bench of rising stars—and adjust to the inconvenient reality, they will deserve to remain America’s minority party.
"an unpopular leftward tilt"
LMAO
And WTF do you call SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS in tax breaks to save 730 jobs at a single carrier plant in Indiana?
A free market exercise?
The fact remains your pussy-grabbing president-elect was elected with 46.1% of the US vote and a big helping hand from his best buddy, Vladimir Putin, while 53.9% of Americans voted against him and his b/millionaire white boy comrades.
White Students Hold ‘Trump’ Sign, Turn Backs On Black Basketball Team
liberals always alarmingly charming when they lose big
Dylann Roof felt pretty when he killed nine innocent and unarmed African American church goers.
He wasted no time confessing to the massacre at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, according to an FBI video shown Friday at his murder trial in Charleston, South Carolina.
"I went to that church in Charleston and I did it," he said, then laughed.
"Did you shoot them?" a law enforcement officer asked a calm and composed Roof.
"Yes," Roof replied, followed by another laugh.
Roof, 22, described his crime as "political" and said he considered himself "a white supremacist."
"Our people are superior," he said. "That's just the fact."
His views on race were awakened by the Trayvon Martin case in Florida, he said. He also talked about Muslims overrunning parts of Europe. He said he supported Hitler.
His goal was "to agitate race relations," the suspect said.
Roof's mother passed out and collapsed during a lunch recess in the courtroom Wednesday. His attorney said in a court filing that she suffered a heart attack.
Now that's funny.
that last post shows how sick TTFers are
to exploit the tragedy conducted by this deranged kid who killed a group of Christians at a bible study
unbelievable
meanwhile, to the subject of Jim's post, a friend of Julian Assange says the wikileaks didn't come from Russia but a worker at Clinton's campaign who was disgusted how the DNC rigged the primaries against Bernie
he says he would know because he came to Washington and met the worker at a park near AU to pick up the information and take to Assange
and sad former car dealer turned Dem Congressman Don Beyer wants the electoral college vote delayed until they can be briefed by the CIA
I think it's time America got a new party to replace the Dems
we need at least two viable parties
the gay agenda Dem party is going down on flames
they didn't even see it coming
"that last post shows how sick TTFers are"
that's true
when they're not being vile, they're reprehensible
no matter, like the rest of America, we can tune them out with the jubilant sound of the gay agenda...
going down in flames
the house of cards is falling
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/muslim-woman-reported-trump-supporter-attack-made-story-article-1.2910944
"the gay agenda Dem party is going down on [sic] flames"
Sure, just like you said your pussy predator president elect was a "lifelong supporter of gay rights."
And just like when you claimed gays were celebrating your pussy predator president elect's win and "Trump is already proving to be a gay friendly president."
Such pretty pirouettes!
"the house of cards is falling"
Yes, that's right.
The entire "house of cards is falling" because we all know, no coed has ever made up an excuse for missing a curfew before.
Now that a single female coed has made up an excuse to avoid punishment for missing her curfew, the entire "house of cards is falling" and may never be rebuilt.
Thank you so much for making this super-important point for all the world to learn from your keen powers of observations and intellect.
oh my, nothing gets Dems testy like losing
well, global warming alarmism has about the same future as the gay agenda:
http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2016/12/13/some-predictions-for-the-future-in-the-climate-game
The more we learn about the Russian plot to sabotage Hillary Clinton’s campaign and elect Donald Trump, and the failure of the FBI to adequately respond, the more shocking it gets. The former acting director of the CIA has called the Russian cyberattack “the political equivalent of 9/11.” Just as after the real 9/11, we need a robust, independent investigation into what went wrong inside the government and how to better protect our country in the future.
As the former chair of the Clinton campaign and a direct target of Russian hacking, I understand just how serious this is. So I was surprised to read in the New York Times that when the FBI discovered the Russian attack in September 2015, it failed to send even a single agent to warn senior Democratic National Committee officials. Instead, messages were left with the DNC IT “help desk.” As a former head of the FBI cyber division told the Times, this is a baffling decision: “We are not talking about an office that is in the middle of the woods of Montana.”
What takes this from baffling to downright infuriating is that at nearly the exact same time that no one at the FBI could be bothered to drive 10 minutes to raise the alarm at DNC headquarters, two agents accompanied by attorneys from the Justice Department were in Denver visiting a tech firm that had helped maintain Clinton’s email server.
This trip was part of what FBI Director James B. Comey described as a “painstaking” investigation of Clinton’s emails, “requiring thousands of hours of effort” from dozens of agents who conducted at least 80 interviews and reviewed thousands of pages of documents. Of course, as Comey himself concluded, in the end, there was no case; it was not even a close call.
Comparing the FBI’s massive response to the overblown email scandal with the seemingly lackadaisical response to the very real Russian plot to subvert a national election shows that something is deeply broken at the FBI.
Comey justified his handling of the email case by citing “intense public interest.” He felt so strongly that he broke long-established precedent and disregarded strong guidance from the Justice Department with his infamous letter just 11 days before the election. Yet he refused to join the rest of the intelligence community in a statement about the Russian cyberattack because he reportedly didn’t want to appear “political.” And both before and after the election, the FBI has refused to say whether it is investigating Trump’s ties to Russia.
There are now reports that Vladimir Putin personally directed the covert campaign to elect Trump. So are teams of FBI agents busy looking into the reported meeting in Moscow this summer between Carter Page, a Trump foreign policy adviser, and the Putin aide in charge of Russian intelligence on the U.S. election? What about evidence that Roger Stone was in contact with WikiLeaks and knew in advance that my hacked emails were about to be leaked? Are thousands of FBI person-hours being devoted to uncovering Trump’s tangled web of debts and business deals with foreign entities in Russia and elsewhere?...
...Meanwhile, House Republicans who had an insatiable appetite for investigating Clinton have been resistant to probing deeply into Russia’s efforts to swing the election to Trump. The media, by gleefully publishing the gossipy fruits of Russian hacks, became what the Times itself calls “a de facto instrument of Russian intelligence.”
But the FBI’s role is particularly troubling because of its power and responsibility — and because this is part of a trend. The Justice Department’s Inspector General issued a damning report this summer about the FBI’s failure to prioritize cyberthreats more broadly.
The election is over and the damage is done, but the threat from Russia and other potential aggressors remains urgent and demands a serious and sustained response.
First, the Obama administration should quickly declassify as much as possible concerning what is known about the Russian hack, as requested by seven Democratic members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Second, the administration should brief members of the electoral college on the extent and manner of Russia’s interference in our election before they vote on Dec. 19, as requested by a bipartisan group of electors.
Third, Congress should authorize a far-reaching, bipartisan independent investigation modeled on the 9/11 Commission. The public deserves to know exactly what happened, why and what can be done to prevent future attacks. Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) and Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.) have introduced legislation to authorize such an investigation.
Finally, Congress should more vigorously exercise its oversight to determine why the FBI responded overzealously in the Clinton case and insufficiently in the Russian case. The FBI should also clarify whether there is an ongoing investigation into Trump, his associates and their ties to Russia. If ever there were a case of “intense public interest,” this is it. What’s broken in the FBI must be fixed and quickly.
oh my goodness the meltdown of the TTF'rs is hysterical.
Great entertainment, thank you !
My Christmas list includes a replay of election night from MSNBC and CNN.
really want to watch the panic again.
LOL
Merry Christmas folks !
UPDATE: 70 Electors have now signed onto a letter demanding that the Electoral College be given an intelligence briefing about Russian meddling in the presidential election.
Trump supporter who punched protester hugs victim, says they should ‘heal our country’ after getting probation
"Donald Trump supporter John Franklin McGraw once attacked and threatened to kill a protester.
Now, he apparently just wants to make America hug again.
McGraw, a white man who was charged after slugging a black protester at a North Carolina Trump rally, hugged his victim in court and apologized Monday after receiving 12 months of probation.
“We are caught up in a political mess today,” McGraw told the protester, Rakeem Jones, in a Cumberland County courtroom.
“You and me, we got to heal our country,” he said."
The two shook hands and embraced, as dozens of people in the courtroom burst into applause. Security then took McGraw away.
McGraw received a 30-day suspended sentence and 12 months of unsupervised probation after pleading no contest to misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct and assault and battery.
Jones, 26, said in court he did not believe the assault was racially motivated.
In March, McGraw was caught on camera sucker punching Jones in the face as security dragged the protester out of a Trump rally in Fayetteville.
Inside Edition caught up with McGraw afterward, and he said he wanted to do a lot more than punching.
“Next time we see him, we might have to kill him!” McGraw, sporting a cowboy hat, said on camera.
McGraw also speculated that Jones “might be with a terrorist organization,” which he was not.
As part of his sentencing, McGraw will also have to pay a $250 fine and $180 in court fees.
During his presidential campaign, Trump promised to pay the legal fees for several supporters who attacked protesters at rallies — including McGraw.
In March, Trump told NBC’s “Meet the Press” he instructed his team to “take a look” at covering McGraw’s fees.
“He was 78 years old, he obviously loves his country, and maybe he doesn’t like seeing what’s happening to the country,” Trump said in the interview.
He also blamed Jones for "sticking a certain finger" at the officers who pulled him out.
It’s unclear if Trump, now the President-elect, will cover McGraw's costs. His spokeswoman did not immediately return a request for comment."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-backs-cia-view-that-russia-intervened-to-help-trump-win-election/2016/12/16/05b42c0e-c3bf-11e6-9a51-cd56ea1c2bb7_story.html
If Ya Can’t Beat ‘Em, Screw ‘Em: North Carolina Governor Signs Bills Gutting Successor’s Power
After losing the election, Gov. Pat McCrory (R) has signed legislation to undermine the incoming Democratic governor-elect.
The GOP is warming to Russian President Vladimir Putin — even as evidence of his regime’s interference in the election intensifies.
While some Republicans in Congress have slammed the Russian strongman and called for investigations into the Kremlin’s attempts to influence the election, the party’s voters are increasingly fond of Putin.
The dramatic shift in sentiment — for a party that once defined itself by its staunch opposition to the Soviet Union — comes as President-elect Donald Trump has steadfastly refused to criticize Putin and signaled a different tone with Russia policy.
Trump has downplayed any role Russia played in the election and high profile hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. And some of his top appointments — including his pick for national security adviser, Michael Flynn, and his selection for secretary of state, ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson — have longstanding ties to Russia and personal relationships with Putin himself.
The change in views has been swift.
Back in July 2014 just 10 percent of Republicans held a favorable view of Putin, according to a poll conducted by the Economist and YouGov. By September of 2016, that number rose to 24 percent. And it's even higher today: 37 percent of Republicans view Putin favorably, the poll found in December.
While the Russian president still has a net un-favorability rating among Republicans, his standing has improved dramatically – from a net negative of 66 points to a mere 10 points.
By comparison, only 17 percent of Republicans have a favorable view of President Barack Obama, the December poll found. Obama’s net negative among Republicans is 64 points – significantly worse than the party’s take on Putin.
Within the GOP there has always been a faction with more sympathetic views toward Putin and Russia. Republicans like Rep. Dana Rohrabacher have taken a more open-minded view of Putin’s behavior in places like Crimea and Syria. But for years Rohrbacher and others like him were pariahs who existed outside the mainstream.
Now Rohrabacher — who was a speechwriter for Reagan and talks of fighting communism — is being floated for State Department appointments. (Rohrabacher said Thursday that he had been considering a role in Trump’s State Department but decided to stay in Congress.)
“There’s a lot of negative things about [Putin] that are accurate but there are a lot of negative things about him that have been said that are inaccurate,” Rohrabacher told POLITICO. “At least the other other side of the coin is being heard now. … Finally there’s some refutation of some of the inaccurate criticisms finally being heard.”
For the GOP, it’s been a sudden shift from a hardline on Russia, toward something resembling respect, if not warmth.
Daniel Vajdich, a former foreign policy adviser on the Senate Foreign Relations committee, recalled traveling to Foreign Relations Chair Sen. Bob Corker’s home state of Tennessee just after Russia annexed Crimea and supported rebel incursions in Eastern Ukraine.
For the Corker constituents Vadjich met, “no other issue—not Iraq, Syria or Iran— topped the emotion or frustration about what the Russians were doing in Ukraine and the way the Obama Administration was failing to do anything about it,” he said.
Now, the Republican president-elect Trump has said he would consider recognizing Crimea as part of Russia.
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When John McCain calls Putin a “thug and a murderer” this is what he’s talking about
"http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2016/12/13/some-predictions-for-the-future-in-the-climate-game"
Go fuck your contrarian's load of manure predictions.
Commenter JeffE got it right:
"JeffE
The only thing collapsing is the Antarctic ice sheet."
Here are some facts your elite idiot prefers to ignore by sticking his head in the West Village dirt:
Scientists confirm that warm ocean water is melting the biggest glacier in East Antarctica
"Scientists at institutions in the United States and Australia on Friday published a set of unprecedented ocean observations near the largest glacier of the largest ice sheet in the world: Totten glacier, East Antarctica. And the result was a troubling confirmation of what scientists already feared — Totten is melting from below.
The measurements, sampling ocean temperatures in seas over a kilometer (0.62 miles) deep in some places right at the edge of Totten glacier’s floating ice shelf, affirmed that warm ocean water is flowing in towards the glacier at the rate of 220,000 cubic meters per second.
These waters, the paper asserts, are causing the ice shelf to lose between 63 and 80 billion tons of its mass to the ocean per year, and to lose about 10 meters (32 feet) of thickness annually, a reduction that has been previously noted based on satellite measurements.
This matters because more of East Antarctica flows out towards the sea through the Totten glacier region than for any other glacier in the entirety of the East Antarctic ice sheet. Its entire “catchment,” or the region of ice that slowly flows outward through Totten glacier and its ice shelf, is larger than California. If all of this ice were to end up in the ocean somehow, seas would raise by about 11.5 feet...."
have is ever occurred to the TTFrs that is perhaps more important what the emails said than who leaked them ?
Has it occurred to the TTFrs that it was the DNC's responsibility to secure their servers and they only got hacked because they failed (or because some internal source got SO disgusted he leaked it..)
Has it occurred to the TTFrs that Hillarys server where she was conducting state business was LESS secure than the DNC emails and she had classified information on it ?
no one has challenged the veracity of the emails (other than Brazile, who was quickly disproved)
No logic allowed when arguing with Dems.
No logic whatsoever.
Have you looked at the intelligence reports that say the Republicans were also hacked into? And where are their emails? Not being held as blackmail material, are they? Why do ya think Trump and the GOP love Russia and Putin all of a sudden?
"Have you looked at the intelligence reports that say the Republicans were also hacked into? And where are their emails? Not being held as blackmail material, are they? Why do ya think Trump and the GOP love Russia and Putin all of a sudden?"
the intelligence reports aren't public, so have you looked at them?
there have been reports that RNC intercepted attempts to hack their computers and prevented them
there is also an individual admitting he was the liaison between a disgruntled Hillary staffer and Assange
there are also report that this disgruntled staffer was murdered on a Washington street this summer by someone who didn't take his wallet
don't know where you've been the last few decades but our intelligence agencies in America aren't exactly infallible
and are currently being run by a Democratic administration
indeed, just a few weeks ago, Dems were claiming the FBI cost Hillary the election by releasing "fake news"
but even if it's all true and the Russians leaked Hillary's emails and did it because they thought Trump would be a more reasonable person to deal with, so what?
biased mainstream media did everything they could to find out things about Trump that he didn't want let out and they publicized whatever they could get a hold of
indeed, Russia has a news outlet, RT, it controls in the U.S. and could have used it to release this information if they had wanted to
let's face it, the Dems are making fake news here
they keep repeating phrases like "Russia hacked into our electoral system" to create the impression among common Americans who don't keep track of the blow-by-blow daily news yak that Russians somehow altered our electronic ballots
the worse they may have done is reveal some valuable information about a presidential candidate that Americans had a right to know
they were plenty of actors, to use Obama's term, doing the same to Trump
who ever did it provided a valuable service to Americans
they took some corrupt, entitled, elitist, hypocritical, mercenary folks at high places
and shined a light in their beds
next week, the electoral college will meet and officially make Trump the President-elect
Dems are throwing in everything but the kitchen sink to prevent that
but they will fail in that effort, just as they have failed to competently run the foreign and domestic policy of our country
meanwhile, TTF has had an anti-American foreigner, Priya Lynn, come on here for years posting fake news
as electors go to vote this week, under intense and unrelenting pressure to reject our time-tested Democratic system, they should keep this in mind:
of Americans who came out to vote, less than half wanted Hillary to be President
that's true of Trump too, but he has demonstrated substantial support across the breadth of the nation, not in tiny isolated areas
so he has a better shot at uniting the country
it's how the Founding Fathers wanted it
Merry Christmas!!
"as electors go to vote this week, under intense and unrelenting pressure to reject our time-tested Democratic system, they should keep this in mind:
of Americans who came out to vote, less than half wanted Hillary to be President"
Mostly they should remember nearly three million fewer Americans who came out to vote voted for the Pussy Predator.
Those nearly three million more American voters preferred Hillary Clinton to your Pussy Grabbing hero.
ACTUAL VOTES:
Clinton 65,844,594
Trump 62,979,616
Dems also picked up six seats in the US House of Representatives as well as two seats in the US Senate
That's 2,864,978 more votes for Hillary than for YOUR @$$HOLE PREDATOR WHO FEELS ENTITLED TO GRAB OUR PUSSIES!!
YOU AND HE CAN GO FUCK YOURSELVES!
Trump knows how to do only one thing, enrich himself and his kids by any and every means possible.
Canceling his press conference this week during which he said he would explain how he will divest from his companies along with his refusal to submit his tax returns as every other modern presidential candidate has done for decades for public review makes Trump's intent as President very clear.
This is not service to him, it's another money making business opportunity.
"The former acting director of the CIA has called the Russian cyberattack “the political equivalent of 9/11.” Just as after the real 9/11, we need a robust, independent investigation"
here John Podesta epitomize the lack of perspective that is one of the many reasons Hillary could not win broad enough support across the country to become President
someone released accurate information about Hillary that may have been valuable to Americans in making their decision of who to vote for
Podesta thinks that's equivalent to the murder of thousands of innocent American at the hand of Islamic fundamentalists?
America badly needs a second feasible political party
of course, Russia and other nations have always released propaganda against Americans
presuming Russia was behind this, what's different this time?
just this:
THE INFORMATION LEAKED WAS TRUE!!
the didn't knock down any buildings
or cut off any captives' heads
they just took a few folks at high places
and shined a light in their beds
earlier this week, I was reading a liberal columnists ranting about Ivanka getting a west wing office
she wrote:
"Trump is either [crude phrase for having sexual intercourse] his daughter or this is nepotism, I don't know which is worse"
really?
it's that lack of perspective I was talking about
"so he has a better shot at uniting the country"
What bullshit.
Here's how he's "uniting" the country:
"...As Trump assembles his administration and prepares to govern, he has continued the divisive rhetoric and showmanship of his campaign. He has mocked his opponents, sneered at the media and trumpeted his electoral feats. To the nearly 54 percent of voters who cast ballots for someone else, Trump’s message has been, in short: Get on board or get left behind.
Trump’s tone in the run-up to his Jan. 20 inauguration poses a challenge as he seeks to govern a deeply divided nation and build popular support for his policies. And as he tries to pivot from a rollicking campaign, Trump is struggling to tame the army of passionate followers he has playfully called “wild beasts.”
Trump’s “thank you” rallies have been an extension of those he held as a candidate, from the soundtrack (Elton John and Rolling Stones classics) to the vows from the lectern (“We will build a great wall!”).
Lately, Trump’s stages have been set with Christmas trees — 16 of them at the Orlando stop — as a sparkling reminder that as president he would say “Merry Christmas,” not simply “Happy holidays.” He has made no mention of Hanukkah or acknowledged other faiths. And in Mobile, he was introduced by evangelist Franklin Graham, who said Trump was elected by a spiritual force: “I believe it was God.”
When Trump swooped into Orlando for a Friday night rally, it had been 38 days since he had had to worry about Hillary Clinton. But his crowd was fixated on her. They chanted, “Lock her up! Lock her up!” To them, this was still a campaign, and Clinton was the enemy.
Trump told them that in the buildup to the election, “You people were vicious, violent, screaming, ‘Where’s the wall?’ ‘We want the wall!’ Screaming, ‘Prison!’ ‘Prison!’ ‘Lock her up!’ I mean, you were going crazy. You were nasty and mean and vicious.”
But the campaign is now over, he said. Victory is in hand. The inauguration is a month away. And Trump tried to imagine for his fans how they ought to behave: “Now you’re laid-back, you’re cool, you’re mellow, right?”
Wrong.
Trump himself has hardly been a model of mellowness. He has used his tour stops to settle scores — with Evan McMullin, the Republican who waged an independent campaign against him in Utah; Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R), who resisted Trump’s candidacy; CNN’s John King, who in nightly pre-election analyses on the “magic wall” predicted that Trump would not reach 270 electoral votes; and the media generally, which Trump faulted for “dishonest” polls.
Even as Trump’s supporters have delighted in the president-elect’s stump routine, they have confessed in interviews that they wish he would adopt a more serious demeanor as he readies to enter the White House...."
Trump, a serious demeanor?
LMAO!!!
Good luck getting a serious demeanor out of your bully pussy grabber-elect!
"presuming Russia was behind this, what's different this time?"
Are you really so stupid that you have to ask?
CIA director: FBI and CIA find 'strong consensus' that Russian hacks were intended to help Trump win election
"Are you really so stupid that you have to ask?
CIA director: FBI and CIA find 'strong consensus' that Russian hacks were intended to help Trump win election"
you do have a point
usually Russian rhetoric favors Dems
so, it is unusual for them to support the GOP
but Trump tends to be more economically oriented than militarily and he is a moderate Republican with a history of support for Dems so that's a little new
in the past though when Russian propaganda supported Dems, they had to hype and lie to attack the GOP
so the really big difference is that this time, there was true story to tell
so, Hillary could have protected herself by not being a hypocrite
that's why if trump was hacked, and he may have been, it would be no big story
he hasn't presented a false image
for better or worse, he is what he says he is
indeed, the liberal media is always complaining how his words aren't calculating
but America doesn't agree with the hypocritical form of leadership
and they had finally had enough
"but Trump tends to be more economically oriented than militarily and he is a moderate Republican with a history of support for Dems so that's a little new"
You uninformed fool.
Your non-militarily oriented bully asshole wants to intentionally kill family members of terrorists.
He's said so repeatedly.
Your pussy grabber used to support Democrats named Clinton.
So what!
He's an asshole bully who spews hatred for American minorities and will never unite anything but the GOP base, many of whom now love Russia and have a favorable view of Vladimir Putin, the murderous former head of the KGB.
Those views are unAmerica and 54% of American voters do not support them!
Y'all can GO FUCK YOURSELVES.
Here's how your bully asshole pussy grabber works to unite African Americans -- he thanks them for staying home and not voting:
“We did great with the African American community,” he said, during the rally in Hershey, Pa. “So good. Remember — remember the famous line, because I talk about crime, I talk about lack of education, I talk about no jobs. And I'd say, what the hell do you have to lose? Right? It's true. And they're smart and they picked up on it like you wouldn't believe. And you know what else? They didn't come out to vote for Hillary. They didn't come out. And that was a big — so thank you to the African American community.”
The crowd applauded.
Trump offered similar praise last week in Michigan — another of the states that he wasn't expected to win, but did. The black community “came through big league,” he said then. “If they had any doubt, they didn't vote. And that was almost as good,” he added.
It's not the case that Trump did particularly well with black voters. Exit polling shows that he got the lowest level of support from black voters of any Republican in the last four decades — except for those Republicans running against the first black president of the United States. He got less support from black voters than George W. Bush did in 2004...
Why didn't they come out?
Donald Trump’s Call to Monitor Polls Raises Fears of Intimidation
Keep deluding yourself he's reaching out to others beyond the deplorable Grab Our Pussy party base.
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Anon posted a kind of seminar in fake news this morning.
If the Russians interfered with an American election, the traitor's response is "so what?"
"RNC intercepted attempts to hack their computers and prevented them" so says the RNC. The CIA and FBI say otherwise.
Hillary staffer liason to Assange -- I guess you are quoting Julian Assange there, he made some vague statements that do not qualify as "fact." Assange has an axe to grind with HIllary, who considers him a criminal and has made sure he doesn't come to the US. Wikileaks got their information from the Russians.
As for murdered staffer Seth Rich... Washington DC has a few murders every year. As Newsweek says, "And that was enough to fire up the right-wing Twitterverse with yet another round of Clinton conspiracy theories..."
Our intelligence agencies may be fallible, and even partisan, but they are more credible than Patriot News, where you get your information.
The Democrats did not say the FBI released "fake news." The Director of the FBI made false assertions that were timed to interrupt the elections, and then took them back. This hurt Hillary in the polls, even though there was no substance to his statements.
Lots of people, including Republicans, keep repeating the phrase, "Russia hacked into our electoral system", because it is a major news event. It is unbelievable to see Americans actually approving of Russia manipulating our political system, but there you are.
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The mainstream press gave Trump billions of dollars worth of free air time and hardly mentioned anything about his rape charges, pending lawsuits, lies, etc. It was all about Hillary's email server, which was not a scandal and not a crime. Even the "liberal" shows cut away to cover whatever Trump was doing at the moment, none ever elaborated on Hillary's qualifications to be president. They "supported" her by talking about the stupid things Trump was saying, more free publicity for him. The press never insisted on tax documents, they would just quote him when he lied without challenging him.
The idea that Russia "provided a valuable service to Americans" by stealing information and making it public is reprehensible. The fact is, there was nothing scandalous in any of the DNC emails, unless you think "pizzas" are "children," or if you think it is scandalous that committee insiders planned to promote one candidate over another. Between the Russians and the American media this was a low point in US history, putting a reality-TV personality in the White House over a well-qualified and serious candidate. The contest was run like a TV ratings season.
I do not know what "shined a light in their beds" means. I understand that you prefer Trump over the Democratic candidate but I would have preferred an election where the public was well-informed about both candidates. DNC private correspondence was scrutinized while we never even learned what Trump's income is.
Some Democrats hope the electoral college will do its job. The minute Trump is inaugurated he is vulnerable to ethics charges and will need to be impeached by his own party, unless the GOP has completely given up its moral core (which is entirely possible). He ran as a statement, the little guy is pissed off at the big guys, but he was not prepared to win; he does not know what a president does and will not know how to execute the role. He will not be able to handle it when he's the responsible one and people complain about him.
And Priya Lynn has been quite accurate in what she posts.
So Anon, this is the problem. Somebody like you takes a lot of vague and unsupported beliefs and strings them together, so it takes an hour to look up the sources of each one and it just isn't worth it. Why would I bother arguing against you? You know what your conclusion is, and you just watch for points that support it, whether they are true or not, knowing that a reader is either going to believe them or they will have to go to considerable effort to find out what the truth is -- and almost none of what you said is true. This just isn't a reasonable way to form opinions and draw conclusions. You don't like Hillary because emails, pant-suits, big words, bitch ... She was not a perfect candidate, to me either, but this is no way to select a leader. Trump's lies came so fast the news could not even keep up with them.
For instance, yesterday a Trump tweet included this phrase: "it was revealed that head of the DNC illegally gave Hillary the questions to the debate". Donna Brazile worked at CNN -- not as "head of the DNC" -- when she sent a question to the campaign, it was not illegal, uncommon, or even improper. She acted as DNC chair later, after Debbie W-S stepped down, but was not when she sent this email. So right there, two lies in one part of a sentence -- "illegal" and "head of the DNC." Just like your list of BS above, it takes too much effort to go back and look up every fact, and so the rightwing gains momentum simply by the mass of lies. I personally do not see that as a healthy public debate.
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