The Anchor
To take just a couple of paragraphs from a typical article this week, this one from The Post:
In this case, the Republicans have tied their vessel to the most corrupt, lyingest, slimiest politician in modern American history, and suddenly they are "increasingly uncertain." Like, what, they didn't think people would notice? Did they think this was going to work? Now that anchor is holding them in place while the tide turns.
The only aim of today's Anchor President is to oppose everything and anything having to do with the black guy and the shrill woman. Ridiculous Secretaries are driving corrupt, self-serving Departments into the ground. Bizarre judges are getting appointed without a fight by the well-anchored legislature. We used to say, "Wait till there is a real disaster," and now there have been real disasters and the Trump administration was worse than useless. The guy actually picked fights with local officials who were wading chest-deep in floodwaters trying to save people. They sent Skittles, Cheez-its, and beef jerky to the starving island of Puerto Rico and sent a Cabinet Secretary's buddy's company with two employees to restore the electrical grid there. He thinks it's funny to call the crazy leader of a nuclear-armed country silly names.
Did you read about President Trump's visit with the American Indian leaders? This is amazing. Axios has the story. It happened last June, they have two first-person accounts and the White House does not dispute the story.
A group of tribal leaders met with the President to talk about the regulatory barriers to mining on the reservation. They had their Powerpoint ready to go; Trump waved it off.
Right?
Except for the nagging fact that he is the President of a country with a Constitution and laws. He is telling these community leaders to ignore the law, to break it, because now that he's in charge the government won't be able to do anything about it.
On the surface of it, this is anarchy. The President has no regard for the law -- if you don't like the laws just ignore them.
But it's worse than that, this is privileged anarchy. When you and I see something we want we can't just take it. But these tribal leaders have every reason to believe they are protected by all the weight of the office of the President of the United States of America. If they are hauled into court they can swear honestly that the highest authority in the land told them it was all right.
That's just how it is now, Trump is loading the government with criminals who are using it for their own profit while the principle of law is ignored when it is inconvenient. The Republicans have stood together in support of this guy. And wow, here was election day, and the anchor turns out to be an albatross: Republicans are increasingly uncertain.
A year ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, Republicans are increasingly uncertain about keeping their majorities on Capitol Hill and are worried about how damaging Trump’s jagged brand of politics may become to the party.Funny, in another time and place, an "anchor" would be a good thing. And in fact the meaning doesn't change. An anchor is something weighty that you can tie your vessel to, to ensure that you have a steady position and don't drift.
“Donald Trump is an anchor for the GOP,” said veteran party strategist Mike Murphy, a Trump critic. “We got that message in loud volume in Virginia. The canary in the coal mine didn’t just pass out; its head exploded.” ‘Canary in the coal mine’: Republicans fear Democratic wins mean more losses to come
In this case, the Republicans have tied their vessel to the most corrupt, lyingest, slimiest politician in modern American history, and suddenly they are "increasingly uncertain." Like, what, they didn't think people would notice? Did they think this was going to work? Now that anchor is holding them in place while the tide turns.
The only aim of today's Anchor President is to oppose everything and anything having to do with the black guy and the shrill woman. Ridiculous Secretaries are driving corrupt, self-serving Departments into the ground. Bizarre judges are getting appointed without a fight by the well-anchored legislature. We used to say, "Wait till there is a real disaster," and now there have been real disasters and the Trump administration was worse than useless. The guy actually picked fights with local officials who were wading chest-deep in floodwaters trying to save people. They sent Skittles, Cheez-its, and beef jerky to the starving island of Puerto Rico and sent a Cabinet Secretary's buddy's company with two employees to restore the electrical grid there. He thinks it's funny to call the crazy leader of a nuclear-armed country silly names.
Did you read about President Trump's visit with the American Indian leaders? This is amazing. Axios has the story. It happened last June, they have two first-person accounts and the White House does not dispute the story.
A group of tribal leaders met with the President to talk about the regulatory barriers to mining on the reservation. They had their Powerpoint ready to go; Trump waved it off.
He asked the tribal leaders what they needed and how he could help them. The tribal leaders told the president they couldn't get to the resources they needed quickly enough.Of course everybody can relate to that. You don't try to figure out all the complicated rules, just cut through the crap and do what you have to do. This is why Trump supporters supported him, because he brushes the red tape aside and gets down to business.
Trump interjected: "Why?"
They explained there were government regulatory barriers preventing them.
Trump replied:
"But now it's me. The government's different now. Obama's gone; and we're doing things differently here... So what I'm saying is, just do it."There was a pause in the room and the tribal leaders looked at each other. One of them started to try to walk back through the barriers to accessing the energy; and Trump cut in again. "No. You've got to just do it. Just do it."
"Chief, chief," Trump continued, addressing one of the tribal leaders, "what are they going to do? Once you get it out of the ground are they going to make you put it back in there? I mean, once it's out of the ground it can't go back in there. You've just got to do it. I'm telling you, chief, you've just got to do it."
Right?
Except for the nagging fact that he is the President of a country with a Constitution and laws. He is telling these community leaders to ignore the law, to break it, because now that he's in charge the government won't be able to do anything about it.
On the surface of it, this is anarchy. The President has no regard for the law -- if you don't like the laws just ignore them.
But it's worse than that, this is privileged anarchy. When you and I see something we want we can't just take it. But these tribal leaders have every reason to believe they are protected by all the weight of the office of the President of the United States of America. If they are hauled into court they can swear honestly that the highest authority in the land told them it was all right.
That's just how it is now, Trump is loading the government with criminals who are using it for their own profit while the principle of law is ignored when it is inconvenient. The Republicans have stood together in support of this guy. And wow, here was election day, and the anchor turns out to be an albatross: Republicans are increasingly uncertain.
posted by JimK at 9:47 PM
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"Republicans are increasingly uncertain"
gee, just a few days ago, the Dems were
there's a place in America that robs the rest of America and uses the proceeds to create a go-go economy in a city that never produces anything but regulations
these government workers have taken over a formerly Southern state and elected a Dem governor
where else is that gonna happen?
Dems did avert a catastrophe
congrats
but they are acting like they won the Superbowl when they just avoided an upset
but, please, just keep moving in that direction
analysis of the fake news in this crappy post tomorrow
"The only aim of today's Anchor President is to oppose everything and anything having to do with the black guy and the shrill woman."
that's strange because the Dems don't propose that anyone vote for them for any reason other than to oppose everything and anything having to do with the rich guy with orange hair and the Orthodox Jewish daughter and the immigrant wife
the Dems' days are numbered
btw, a poll out tonight shows Bernie Sanders with a significant lead over Trump in 2020
hope he doesn't wind up like Jeb!
I see in the other thread Wyatt/bad anonymous had several of his fake news comments deleted again. Apparently he's still repeating the lie that Hillary allowed 20% of U.S. Uranium to be sold to russia.
The truth of course is that by law none of the American uranium being mined by that company can leave the United States.
When Wyatt/bad anonymous finds a lie he likes he clings to it like a drunk to his whiskey bottle - he ain't letting that go no matter how stupid and dishonest it shows him to be!
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "the Dems don't propose that anyone vote for them for any reason other than to oppose everything and anything having to do with [the popular vote losing pussy grabber].
That's a lie, just like the lies Wyatt/keeps telling about Hillary's non-involvement in the Uranium One sale. The truth is that Hillary had several pages of policy proposals on her web site and did everything possible to get the media to focus on that but the media was laser focused on side-show Trump and his buffoonery.
A new CNN/SSRS poll out shows American concern growing about Russia's attempted influence on the 2016 election. 66% of Americans say this is either a major problem or a crisis.
The popular vote losing pussy grabber never would have eked out a win in the electoral college without the help of the Russians.
Trump is the most illegitimate U.S. president ever.
"I see in the other thread brilliant anonymous had several of his fake news comments deleted again."
oh, those weren't "fake news". they were things Jim doesn't want mentioned. of course, everyone would be able to see that, except that he's deleted them
"Apparently he's still repeating the lie that Hillary allowed 20% of U.S. Uranium to be sold to russia.
The truth of course is that by law none of the American uranium being mined by that company can leave the United States."
as I mentioned in the post Jim deleted, Russia doesn't feel obligated to follow US laws. you know that hacking emails is illegal, right? once they have control of the management of these resources, it will difficult to control their activities. you know how they are.
"When brilliant anonymous finds a lie he likes he clings to it like a drunk to his whiskey bottle - he ain't letting that go no matter how stupid and dishonest it shows him to be!"
all I said it's that the conflicts of interest in the situation made it worthy of a congressional hearing. that's an opinion so it can't be a lie, by definition. definitions are a liberal strong suit.
if it's all a "lie", why did the FBI investigate it?
interestingly, the article Priya bases this on says "some experts believe". not "all", not "most". so, "some" could mean 10%, for all anyone knows. this imprecision is of the liberal media. typical this is typical of Priya's thinking. as soon as any expert agrees with what priya wants to believe, everything else is a "lie".
it's a sad little existence.
"Hillary had several pages of policy proposals on her web site and did everything possible to get the media to focus on that but the media was laser focused on side-show Trump and his buffoonery."
Trump got more attention because he said yes when the media wanted to talk to him. Hillary tried to limit interaction. she didn't address the concerns of most Americans but chose to focus on identity politics. but that's irelevant. right now, Dems don't propose that anyone vote for them for any reason other than to oppose everything and anything having to do with the rich guy with orange hair and the Orthodox Jewish daughter and the immigrant wife
"A new CNN/SSRS poll out shows American concern growing about Russia's attempted influence on the 2016 election. 66% of Americans say this is either a major problem or a crisis."
fascinating. so far, the only collusion proven is when Hillary paid Russian officials, through several layers of intermediaries to produce false allegations against Trump.
"Trump never would have won without the help of the Russians.
Trump is the most illegitimate U.S. president ever."
do you have any idea how many people viewed FB ads allegedly placed by Russians v. how many viewed all FB ads? the whole idea that the Russians had more influence than all the other sources weighing in on the election is ludicrous. Hillary had the support of the entire mainstream media, the FBI and the rest of the Obama administration, and virtually the entire world of entertainment celebrity.
and, yet, Hillary still managed to lose because (1) she didn't even try to address the concerns of the blue collar worker in the Rust Belt and Trump did; and (2) she promised to nominate SCOTUS justices that would re-interpret the constitution, alienating and motivating evangelicals to support Trump, despite his personal failings
that's what happened
it took a village to defeat Hillary
Here's a rule of thumb for you anon, to make this easy.
Comments about Hillary will be mostly deleted unless they meet one of two criteria:
1. She has done or said something new and newsworthy
2. Someone has done something official like filed charges against her or given her an award or something (revealing another sordid and fictional secret from her past doesn't count, even if a famous person is saying it)
If there is news that can contribute to the discussion then cool, let's hear it. Otherwise she is just a lady with a book out.
Obviously Fox and the rest of the Trump apparatus is trying to talk about Hillary Clinton as the Trump presidency goes down in total embarrassing flaming failure. That's fine and a lot of the mainstream media are falling for it. This blog will not play a role in the distraction.
BTW, the uranium story is pure political theater and has been kicking around in some form for years. Vigilance readers know how to find Infowars if they want to read more about that.
JimK
This is just the latest in a string of character tests that Republicans have faced in the past few years. Many, but not all, have related to Trump. Scores of GOP leaders who bristled after the “Access Hollywood” tape emerged in October 2016 chose just days later to rally behind Trump anyway. Republicans came to Greg Gianforte’s defense after he admitted physically assaulting a reporter this June, and he won a special election to keep Montana’s sole House seat in GOP hands. In 2012, the National Republican Senatorial Committee publicly announced that it was abandoning GOP nominee Todd Akin in the Missouri Senate race after he declared that “legitimate rape” does not lead to unwanted pregnancies (because, he said, the female body has ways of shutting them down). But when polls showed that Akin was within striking distance of beating Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), Senate Republican leaders quietly reversed themselves and funneled nearly $1 million to fund a last-minute TV ad blitz on his behalf.
In those three cases, Republican leaders in Washington stomached their initial concerns and chose to prioritize politics above principles. With Moore making clear that he will not step aside, now they face another legacy-defining test: Will they follow their moral compasses or their political ones?
If not here, where will they draw the line?
WWJD?
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"In those three cases, Republican leaders in Washington stomached their initial concerns and chose to prioritize politics above principles. With Moore making clear that he will not step aside, now they face another legacy-defining test: Will they follow their moral compasses or their political ones?
If not here, where will they draw the line?"
if allegations were all that was necessary, why did Bill Clinton finish two terms as President?
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I thought the rule of thumb would be pretty easy to follow.
Somebody else accusing Hillary of dirty tricks during the campaign is not news. Also, these things that you say "we just learned" have been known and discussed for months if not more than a year.
Let's see if you can stick to facts and opinions about current events.
JimK
"if allegations were all that was necessary, why did Bill Clinton finish two terms as President?"
Because after Clinton was impeached by the house, he was acquitted by the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#Acquittal_by_the_Senate
"Somebody else accusing Hillary of dirty tricks during the campaign is not news"
Hillary doesn't now deny she funded the dossier
she didn't admit it until the bank records were recently produced under subpoena
we didn't know about the unprecedented DNC takeover
we didn't know that Comey had made a foregone conclusion
it's all new
"Because after Clinton was impeached by the house, he was acquitted by the Senate."
so, you would favor Moore going to the Senate and having an impeachment trial? I guess I misunderstood
Anon I'm not going to sit here arguing with you.
There is no reason for Hillary to "deny" anything about the Steele dossier. A campaign lawyer paid for it, there is nothing wrong with that, and it does not appear that Hillary personally kept track of that level of bookkeeping. It has been known for a year that the Democrats took over paying for the investigation after the Republicans lost the primary to Trump -- no news there. We did not know the name of the exact lawyer who wrote the check, and now we do -- so?
The "unprecedented DNC takeover" is neither news nor unprecedented. The Russian Podesta email dump detailed it all, long before the election. For a political committee to argue, maneuver, and connive among themselves is totally typical. Voters don't like to hear about it, but that's how it works.
BTW, that raises the interesting question of why the Russians are holding onto the Republicans' campaign emails and not releasing them. Blackmail is a hypothesis high on the list.
I am just deleting from now on, without explanation, anon. Keep it to current events.
JimK
thought you said you weren't going to argue
Russians are probably holding onto Republican emails because they would establish conclusively the Russia-Trump collusion story is a hoax
and they love that story
(but we won't mention how it all got started)
it keeps America divided, which has always been their goal
"so, you would favor Moore going to the Senate and having an impeachment trial? I guess I misunderstood"
You asked no questions about Moore.
We all realize reading comprehension is difficult for you but try to follow along.
You asked "if allegations were all that was necessary, why did Bill Clinton finish two terms as President?"
As "Historical facts are easy to find," I answered: "Because after Clinton was impeached by the house, he was acquitted by the Senate" and provided you with the URL to the facts about why did Bill Clinton finished all eight years of his administration of peace and prosperity.
"You asked no questions about Moore.
We all realize reading comprehension is difficult for you but try to follow along."
apparently, simple logic is difficult for you
didn't know I'd have to splain the whole thin to you, but here we go:
if you think Moore should quit the race because someone has made an allegation against him, why shouldn't Bill Clinton have had to resign the the Presidency because of the multiple allegations against him?
btw, the Congress didn't take up the allegations of sexual assault by Clinton
they impeached him due to perjury charges
he wasn't found innocent
it was simply deemed best for the country not to remove him from office for a relatively minor crime
How about this anon: Bill Clinton had a consensual relationship with a willing grownup.
In case you forgot, contrast that with the conconsensual molesting of a child.
I understand that these are equivalent to you, some people though draw a distinction.
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liberals think sexual abuse of someone you have power over is OK.
Fake news: gone
JimK
"Bill Clinton had a consensual relationship with a willing grownup."
He was President, she was an intern that whose employment he could terminate in an instant.
Verrrry Complicated characterizes that as consensual and willin'
anon said:
"liberals think sexual abuse of someone you have power over is OK. "
another fact Jim would like to conceal: gone
On the same day Democrats were cruising to impressive victories in governor races in New Jersey and Virginia, an NBC/WSJ poll of voters taken from 438 “Trump counties” was released. These are counties that either flipped from voting for President Obama in 2012 to Donald Trump in 2016, or “surge” counties where Trump performed at least 20 percentage points better than Mitt Romney did in 2012.
The survey showed Trump suffering some slippage in these places when compared to a previous poll taken in July, but not by much. Overall, his approval rating in these counties dipped from 50 percent to 48 percent, which is still 10 points higher than his national job approval average. And on two of the most important issues to “Trump county” voters, the president receives his highest marks: 56 percent of respondents are satisfied with the job he is doing on “improving the economy,” and 55 percent are satisfied that he is “keeping America safe.”
On a related note, a Morning Consult/Politico survey released this week showed that 82 percent of self-identified Trump voters have no regrets. Yep, more than four out of five say they would vote for The Donald again if they could do the 2016 election over, while 7 percent they would vote for another candidate and 5 percent would stay home. As a point of reference, 78 percent of Clinton voters would still “be with her” if they could do 2016 over, but 8 percent would vote for someone else and 9 said they would stay home.
Here's a quote from Monica Lewinsky, who endured hours of questioning about her sexual behavior by US Marshalls while kept from seeing her mother, about her affair with Bill Clinton:
"I will always remain firm on this point: It was a consensual relationship. Any ‘abuse’ came in the aftermath"
Yes, abuse like the grilling from the US Marshalls, the backstabbing from her good friend Linda Tripp, and Ken Starr's salacious report of every detail of Ms. Lewinsky's sexual affair with the President.
Leigh Corfman, after years of feeling unable to mention what Roy Moore did to her to anyone other than close friends and family, going through three divorces, and messy financial issues, voluntarily spoke with Washington Post reporters and told them:
“There is no one here that doesn’t know that I’m not an angel,” Corfman says, referring to her home town of Gadsden
She couldn't trust her hometown courts because the man who touched her inappropriately was a member of that court.
“I have prayed over this,” Corfman says, explaining why she decided to tell her story now. “All I know is that I can’t sit back and let this continue, let him continue without the mask being removed.”
All of the quotes in this comment are easily verifiable at google.com
I don't need to verify any quotes
I believe you
Clinton acted similarly to Louis CK
the comedian actually came out today with a statement that should be a model for those now being found out
what he pointed out was that, although he had the consent of the women he harassed, he now understands that a person in power, who basically can't be argued with really can't have consent
still, you're right if you think Monica was not in the same league as the crime Moore is accused of
but I wasn't comparing the Moore case with Monica
I was pointing out that Clinton was accused of sexual assault on more than one occasion but the world didn't jump and assume he was guilty
why do that to Moore?
we all know
he's politically inconvenient for them
but he won the primary
get over it, Mitch
Everyone believed Clinton had had an affair with Monica Lewinski, and I think most people believed he had had other affairs too. But most Americans figured his personal life was none of our bisuness.
With some promtping from lawyers and threats to sue for big money, several women accused Clinton of rape, groping, etc., but it doesn't seem to go anywhere. I think their motives became clear during the campaign when Trump brought them all out for a press conference to embarass Hilary. They seemed to be political props all along, and that proved it.
These are all adults, and if his personal life is a mess that is his own problem. He was not behaving like Harvey Winestine, he was not going after young boys like Kevin Spacey, or after young girls like Roy More. He hit on some women (I can't say I agree with his taste but that again is his business, if he likes the painted-up fluzies) with varying degrees of success, picking up a couple of complaints along the way.
It is not the same as molesting children, in other words.
"With some promtping from lawyers and threats to sue for big money, several women accused Clinton of rape, groping, etc., but it doesn't seem to go anywhere. I think their motives became clear during the campaign when Trump brought them all out for a press conference to embarass Hilary. They seemed to be political props all along, and that proved it."
for all you know, this is true of Moore as well
indeed, I really think liberals hope it's true and he did molest the 14 year old
just shows what a bunch of crazed animals liberals are
they will do and say anything to stop someone who dared to keep the Ten Commandments at the courthouse
why are liberals so scared of the Ten Commandments?
the other two were over the age of consent and he did "court" them with the permission of their families
it was a different time and culture
in a time, not in the too distant past, girls got married at a younger age
Liberals don't have any problem with the ten commandments. The question is, why do conservatives have such a problem with the Constitution?
apparently, you do have a problem with the Ten Commandments
a copy of it threatens no one's religious freedom
not only do conservatives have no problem with the Constitution, protecting it was a key issue that necessitated voting against Hillary
Crazy/stupid Wyatt/bad anonymous said "apparently, you do have a problem with the Ten Commandments a copy of it threatens no one's religious freedom".
When the government displays a christian command that says "Thou shat have no other gods before me", it threatens everyone's religious freedom who isn't a christian...
OBVIOUSLY
A Jewish Rabbi desribes gay couples as not being human beings at a hate group rally for the religious "freedom" of a bigoted cake baker.
Ironic how he's forgotten that not that long ago in Germany people said Jews weren't human beings either.
Gotta love those "judeo-christian values"!
Remember, as Wyatt/bad anonymous says, there's nothing hateful or threatening about religious conservatives promoting the idea that LGBT people aren't human beings...
IN LYING/CRAZY LAND.
Like Wyatt/bad anonymous says, him advocating shoving the heads of LGBT schoolchildren into toilets filled with urine and feces isn't hate.
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Prayer is an act of doubt, not faith.
If you really thought your god was watching over everything and you genuinely trsuted in his "plan", you wouldn't be praying in the first place.
Marine Corps Drill Instructor Sentenced To Ten Years For Torturing Muslim Recruits, One Of Whom Killed Himself
The Associated Press reports:
A Marine Corps drill instructor was sentenced Friday to 10 years in prison for choking, punching or otherwise tormenting recruits, especially three Muslims — one of whom ultimately killed himself by leaping down a stairwell.
Among other things, he taunted the Muslims as “terrorists” or “ISIS” and ordered two of them to climb into a clothes dryer, spinning one of them around until he renounced his faith.
Yep, nothing threatening about the government promoting the ten commandments and "thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Nothing to see here...Move along...
Anon, the ten commandments are fine, and in some ways they can be said to be the cornerstone of the Western legal system. I have never heard a liberal say they were opposed to the ten commandments.
But it's like the Peace Cross in Bladensburg -- everybody loves it, it just can't be on government property. That is because the Constitution is very careful to keep government and religion separate.
The ten commandments are a Jewish tradition and the Constitution forbids the government from endorsing or "establishing" a Jewish (or Sharia, or any other other reglion's) viewpoint. So Judge Moore can put the ten commandments in the front yard of his own teen love-nest (because the Constitution also protects expression of religion by citizens), he just can't put them on property that is owned and paid for by the government.
As a judge he -- of all people -- should support the Constitution, He does not, and so he has been removed from office twice. It is a simple choice: do you support the United States and its Constitution, or not?
US Blues
The view you express misinterprets the Constitution and has only had significant following since the late fifties, early sixties.
This can be clearly seen if you put the Constitution into the context of the times it was written. Early founding documents of our country clearly express a theistic, although non-denominational, viewpoint. So did the actions of the writers of the Constitution as they took place in the government. Indeed, it is easy to trace the roots of our government in Judeo-Christian thought.
International observers who study our government are in agreement with that as are the majority of Americans and a major political party. The current SCOTUS is expected to clarify this soon.
Condolences to the mainstream media and the liberal fringe.
Very clear:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
It is a simple matter, an extremely simple matter, of choosing to support the Constitution. "Trace the roots" all you want (you wilil not find any Founding Father who wanted to establish theocracy, but go ahead and look), the Constitution is very clear. Religious symbols have no place in a courtroom.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "It was a different time and culture in a time, not in the too distant past, girls got married at a younger age"
Roy Moore had illegal sexual contact with a 14 year old when he was 32:
Funny how Republicans who "worried" so much about their daughter's safety in the bathrooms are now going on the record to defend pedophilia...
No liberal defended Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey. But Trump and Roy Moore? We arrest our alleged rapists, they elect them.
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US president Donald Trump on Saturday said Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin told him that "he didn't meddle" in US elections that propelled the billionaire to the White House.
The US leader had "two or three" brief conversations with Putin on the margins of the APEC summit in the Vietnamese city of Danang, Trump told reporters on Air Force One on the way to a state visit in Hanoi.
"He Putin said he didn't meddle. He said he didn't meddle. I asked him again," he said.
"You can only ask so many times... He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election."
Trump explained that Putin reiterates his denial "every time" the pair meet, adding his counterpart seems "very insulted" by the persistent allegations.
Sensations that explode with a flash and a bang seize public attention, but the echo doesn’t last forever. Charges of Russian collusion in the 2016 presidential election that lit up the night sky in the spring are fading now with the colors of autumn. But details emerging from cracks and crevices of the Obama administration demand attention.
Credible news accounts detail how a Kremlin-linked nuclear energy company called Rosatom sought ownership of Uranium One, a Canadian mining company with rights to American uranium. The deal was completed in 2010 following approval of the nine-member Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, of which Hillary Clinton, the secretary of State, was a member. Later, her husband Bill was invited to make a speech in Moscow for $500,000, paid by a bank with a financial interest in Rosatom. The Clinton Foundation eventually received millions of dollars from other Russians with connections to the deal. It’s funny how wheels can spin within wheels within wheels.
The appearance of a quid-pro-quo is an obvious cause for concern and worthy of an inquiry every bit as thorough as the one Robert Mueller says he is conducting into allegations that Donald Trump’s campaign collaborated with Russians. “I think we need a special counsel to investigate the Uranium One episode where thousands of dollars were given to the Clinton Global Fund and to former President Bill Clinton from groups tied to Russia,” says Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican.
Equally suspicious is why the Obama administration would approve the sale of 20 percent the nation’s supply of uranium, a regulated commodity with obvious national security applications, to an adversary when the United States must import 90 percent of its uranium to supplement its own limited domestic resources. The Democrats have been shouting from the housetops that we’re supposed to be suspicious of the Russians; why did Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton, prominent now among the housetop shouters, sleep through this?
John Solomon and Alison Spann at The Hill newspaper looked behind the curtain and found that in 2012 the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) amended an existing export license to enable a third-party trucking company to transport U.S. yellowcake, the ore from which uranium is extracted, to Canada, from where it was shipped to Europe and Asia. That’s apparently one way to ship uranium abroad without an export license.
In fact, a strong anti-nuclear streak ran through the Obama-era NRC chaired by Gregory Jaczko. As an aide to Harry Reid, a member of the Senate at the time, he was instrumental in keeping the door locked on the completed but unlicensed Yucca Mountain Nuclear Waste Repository in Nevada. In 2012, Mr. Jaczko cast the only dissenting vote against construction of two nuclear power reactors in Georgia, the first in 30 years.
In 2103, following the Fukushima Dai-ichi accident in Japan in 2011 and his resignation from the NRC in 2012, Mr. Jackzko told the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers: “The industry is going away. In 20 or 30 years we’re going to have very few nuclear power plants in this country — that’s just a fact.”
Chipping away at the nation’s nuclear assets may have seemed a smart move in the Obama administration.
If Mrs. Clinton had succeeded Mr. Obama, selling off the nation’s raw nuclear material to Russian interests as part of a denuclearization scheme might not have raised concerns. But she didn’t succeed Mr. Obama. The nation deserves to know whether national security was compromised by the uranium deal, and whether the Clintons profited from it
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It is not yet clear whether the movies will be labeled 10, 11, and 12
If there are "credible news accounts" then cite them.
There aren't. More slander and fake news.
Gone.
JimK
More deleted comments, I see Wyatt/bad anonymous is still up to his posting fake news and/or "dispassionate" comments.
That's what you get from someone whose motto is "there are many situations where its appropriate to lie".
Republican Roy Moore Defended the rape of a twelve year old
It was an open and shut case. A daycare center employee, Eric Higdon, raped a 12-year old child. He was found guilty under a sodomy statute specific to minors by all members of the 9-judge panel supreme court in Alabama.
Actually, make that all 9 members except one.
Judge Roy Moore.
Moore stated there was “no evidence in this case of an implied threat of serious physical injury.” A child was raped. What kind of “judge” says that?
The exact same judge who sexually assaulted a 14-year old girl in a court custody case!
But now, Alabama GOP voters recently learned that Moore took a 14-year old child—whom he promised her mother he would watch while she attended a custody hearing— to his home in the woods, gave her alcohol, stripped her, slobbered over her, and tried to guide her hand to his private area.
Wyatt/bad anonymous and other Republicans defended Moore saying the age difference wasn't a big deal. For Republicans like him, childhood begins at conception and ends when a popular Republican molests you.
"Alabama GOP voters recently learned that Moore took a 14-year old child—whom he promised her mother he would watch while she attended a custody hearing— to his home in the woods, gave her alcohol, stripped her, slobbered over her, and tried to guide her hand to his private area."
Priya doesn't mention that this is an allegation.
So Priya lied.
"brilliant anonymous and other Republicans defended Moore saying the age difference wasn't a big deal."
I didn't say the age difference with a 14 year old didn't matter, I don't think anyone else has either.
This would be Priya "I'm like honest Abe" Lynn's lie of the day
although there was stiff competition for the dishonor
"Very clear:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
there was no law requiring a judge to post a copy of the Ten Commandments in Alabama or prohibiting another judge from removing it
so, no problem is presented by the establishment clause
the establishment clauses simply makes clear that no laws can require religious belief or practice
it doesn't protect anyone from hearing about it
"It is a simple matter, an extremely simple matter, of choosing to support the Constitution. "Trace the roots" all you want (you wilil not find any Founding Father who wanted to establish theocracy, but go ahead and look), the Constitution is very clear. Religious symbols have no place in a courtroom."
it is simple
there is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting religious symbols on government property
acknowledging God is not establishing a "theocracy"
theism is the presumed consensus of all founding documents
God is mentioned on our money, in our national anthem, in our Declaration of Independence
there is no requirement to believe in God, but government is not required to pretend he doesn't exist
if you say everyone who serves in government must ignore God, you are violating the Constitution by prohibiting the free exercise of religion
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "if you say everyone who serves in government must ignore God, you are violating the Constitution by prohibiting the free exercise of religion".
Court after court has ruled that the government must remain neutral on religion. If it promotes a god it is establishing a religion which is prohibited by the first amendment
Your god is mentioned nowhere in your constitution which is the document controlling the operation of government in the country.
As the treaty of Tripoli said, "The United States is in no sense founded upon the christian religion".
Courts have excused putting the reference to god on American money by pathetically claiming it doesn't represent any real religion, that it is a meaningless, ceremonial declaration. But even in that instance the courts have had to say the government cannot favour any religion which is what Moore putting up the ten commandments is.
Courts have ruled on that consistently. The only way the government can put up a christian display is if it is part of a general display of religion and non-religion open to all religions, atheists, and the church of Satan.
Moore was thrown off the bench twice because he violated the first amendment by putting up the ten commandments by itself which illegally established christianity as the state relgion - case closed.
Some Republicans want to delay the election Roy Moore is running in
Wait...delay the election??? You bigots made this bed and you should be made to lie in it. Further, you have no problem propping up an admitted philandering, pussy grabbing narcissist who once said he would date his own daughter if he could, so what's the problem here? Roy Moore IS 'your kind of guy,'....OWN IT!
Former Ron paul staffer tweets"I'd be fine with a child predator in the Senate so long as it would keep the Democrats from stealing this seat. Child molesters are evil, Democrats are even worse.".
Its important to understand how extreme Republican negative partisanship is - goodness comes second to party
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Priya doesn't mention that this is an allegation. So Priya lied.".
Its not a lie if its true and several other people have corroborated parts of the girl's story. Moore has a long history of lying and misconduct. She and her witnesses are far more credible than he is.
I said Wyatt/bad anonymous and other Republicans defended Moore saying the age difference wasn't a big deal."
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "I didn't say the age difference with a 14 year old didn't matter, I don't think anyone else has either. This would be Priya "I'm like honest Abe" Lynn's lie of the day".
Oh, sure, just like when you claimed no one including you had ever said transwomen were a threat to biological women in the bathroom when In this thread at May 14, 2017 5:26 PM you accused a transwoman of just that: "can prey on young girls in the ladies' room as much as possible,"
LOTS of Republicans have said this was no big deal that he sexually touched a 14 year old and that's basically what you did when you said "it was a different time and culture in a time, not in the too distant past, girls got married at a younger age".
I didn't put that you said it was no big deal in quotes, that was an accurate paraphrase of what you said. You refuse to condemn Moores illegal conduct, instead choosing to minimize it at every opportunity.
So, once again, we can see that when Wyatt/bad anonymous falsely accuses me of lying its merely psychological projection of his own bad behavior upon innocent others.
What do you expect from someone who says "there are many situations where its appropriate to lie"?
in 2016, Obama's Justice Department was looking for an excuse not to charge Hillary with crimes she certainly committed
now, a special prosecutor is pushing hard to find an excuse to charge Trump campaign officials with crimes they certainly did not commit
and they call it democracy:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453659/mueller-paul-manafort-investigation-hardball-tactics
There, there Wyatt, here's a picture of Justin for you so you have something to fantasize about after you get in bed tonight.
Not my preference, Priya, but thanks for the thought.
It's that the type gays are attracted to?
It's hard to believe a country can be run by a guy who needs a professional to air brush the zits out of his official photos.
Of course, it is a dull country. It's citizens look south for interesting politics or quality health care.
But if you want somewhere that you get french fries topped with gravy and cottage cheese (oh, yum!). And led by a guy whose mother has to limit his screen time.....Canada beckons. Just be careful to check with the Queen before you make any moves.
You know, he doesn't look much like Mick Jagger. Margaret musta picked up some other random guy at Studio 54 that night.
"Court after court has ruled that the government must remain neutral on religion. If it promotes a god it is establishing a religion which is prohibited by the first amendment"
that God exists was a given to the founding fathers
courts have only adopted the extreme secular view in last half century
the SCOTUS is expected to clarify in the near future, at which time, Priya will no longer support "court after court"
America has stood for freedom of religion since it's founding
for the government to keep encroaching on every aspect of life and then to rule anything government is involved in must be completely cleansed of all mention of religion is to effectively destroy religion
this was clearly not the intent, they would have never imagined that the government would control the schools, for example
the enforced secularism you envision is, much like evil egalitarianism, a French concoction
"Your god is mentioned nowhere in your constitution which is the document controlling the operation of government in the country."
so what? the Ten Commandments are recognized in all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim lands - that's a pretty big chunk of the global population
glad to see you are giving us our constitution back though
why is some Canadian so invested is pushing their view of our Constitution?
Canada must be pretty dull
“As the treaty of Tripoli said, "The United States is in no sense founded upon the christian religion".”
A treaty doesn’t represent constitutional law
This treaty was our first attempt to appease lawless Islamic terrorists
“Courts have excused putting the reference to god on American money by pathetically claiming it doesn't represent any real religion,"
hey, look
suddenly Priyta doesn't care what court after court has said
"that it is a meaningless, ceremonial declaration. But even in that instance the courts have had to say the government cannot favour any religion which is what Moore putting up the ten commandments is.”
That will be overturned eventually
“Courts have ruled on that consistently.”
Not before Earl Warren
“The only way the government can put up a christian display is if it is part of a general display of religion and non-religion open to all religions, atheists, and the church of Satan.”
No, they can display the freely chosen religious expression of society
“Moore was thrown off the bench twice because he violated the first amendment by putting up the ten commandments by itself which illegally established christianity as the state relgion - case closed.”
The Ten Commandments aren’t exclusively Christian and he wasn’t making any “law respecting the establishment of religion.”
So, he didn’t violate the First amendment – case closed
brilliant anonymous said "I didn't say the age difference with a 14 year old didn't matter, I don't think anyone else has either. This would be Priya "I'm like honest Abe" Lynn's lie of the day".
Priya the liar said:
"Oh, sure, just like when you claimed no one including you had ever said transwomen were a threat to biological women in the bathroom when In this thread at May 14, 2017 5:26 PM you accused a transwoman of just that: "can prey on young girls in the ladies' room as much as possible,"
LOTS of Republicans have said this was no big deal that he sexually touched a 14 year old and that's basically what you did when you said "it was a different time and culture in a time, not in the too distant past, girls got married at a younger age".
I didn't put that you said it was no big deal in quotes, that was an accurate paraphrase of what you said. You refuse to condemn Moores illegal conduct, instead choosing to minimize it at every opportunity."
WOW!! Look at liar try to weasel out the embarrassment of being caught in a red-faced LIE
no escape
you lied
but, because of your dishonest sanctimony, you're also a hypocrite
quite a double dishonor
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Not my preference, Priya, but thanks for the thought.".
LOL, you can't fool us Wyatt. We all know that's exactly your preference.
Hahahahahahahahaahha!
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two former top U.S. intelligence officials said on Sunday they fear President Donald Trump is being manipulated by Russian President Vladimir Putin, after Trump said he believed Putin was sincere in denying Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
Former CIA Director John Brennan and ex-National Intelligence Director James Clapper both said Trump was mishandling Moscow ties even as a special counsel investigates possible collusion between Trump's campaign team and Russia.
"I think Mr. Trump is, for whatever reason, either intimidated by Mr. Putin, afraid of what he could do, or what might come out as a result of these investigations... It's either naiveté, ignorance or fear in terms of what Mr. Trump is doing vis-à-vis the Russians," Brennan said in an appearance with Clapper on CNN's "State of the Union."
Clapper added that foreign leaders who roll out the red carpet for Trump are able to manipulate Trump.
"I do think both the Chinese and the Russians think they can play him," Clapper said.
Their comments came after Trump told reporters over the weekend that he had spoken with Putin again over allegations of Russian meddling in the presidential election and that the Russian president again denied any involvement.
"I really believe that, when he tells me that, he means it," Trump told reporters. "I think he is very insulted by it, which is not a good thing for our country."
Trump also took a swipe at Obama-era intelligence officials Brennan, Clapper and former FBI Director James Comey, calling them "political hacks" and questioning the findings of a U.S. intelligence report that concluded that Russians sought to tilt the election in Trump's favor.
Facing sharp criticism, Trump walked back from some of those comments on Sunday, saying he has faith in the intelligence leaders he has hired.
Brennan on Sunday called Trump's criticism of him a "badge of honor," and Clapper suggested said Trump's denial of Russian interference in the election "poses a peril to the country."
When asked, Brennan declined to say whether he knows of any intelligence to suggest that the Russians have compromising or damaging information on Trump.
A dossier penned by a former British spy contains unverified claims that Russia does have embarrassing information on Trump.
Republicans say Moore sexually touching a 14 year old is no big deal
Few books have been subject to wider interpretation than the Bible, but still I was illuminated by a moral that Jim Zeigler, the state auditor of Alabama, drew from the story of those two weary travelers who found no room at the inn. It’s apparently a plug for child molestation.
When Zeigler was asked by The Washington Examiner about an allegation that the Senate candidate Roy Moore initiated sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl when he was 32, Zeigler cited the biblical couple to say, essentially: No biggie! This is as old as Christianity.
“Take Joseph and Mary,” he explained. “Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus. There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.” He made it sound as if Moore were some religiously inclined analogue to those military-history enthusiasts who dress in the uniforms of yesteryear to travel back to the Revolutionary War. Moore was merely re-enacting the New Testament in the name of lust.
It’s worth pointing out that there is something illegal here: A 14-year-old girl is below the age of consent in Alabama, and that was true as well four decades ago, when the incident is alleged to have occurred. It’s also worth pointing out that Jesus supposedly arrived via virgin birth, so Joseph’s interactions with Mary up until that point may have been considerably more G-rated and gallant than in Zeigler’s version.
It’s further worth pointing out that millenniums ago, girls were treated as chattel and sold off as child brides, a practice that no one in his or her right mind would regard as inspirational and cite as an exonerating precedent.
But such fine points tend to elude people insisting on the most convenient, self-serving narrative available, and Zeigler was rationalizing his sustained support for Moore. Besides, logic and moral consistency aren’t prevalent among Bible-thumping scolds.
Are you really surprised? If so, you might want to see a doctor about your amnesia, because my memory is pretty spotty and still I can recall Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker and Larry Craig and David Vitter, and with just a few minutes of Googling, I could fill the rest of this column with more names of more pastors and politicians who presented themselves as steadfast moral conservatives and were revealed to be agents of precisely the kind of behavior they so exuberantly condemned. These frauds and hypocrites are as legion now as lepers were in the days of Jesus.
If I sound bitter, I am, because they have long been among the principal purveyors of hatred for gay people like me. They’re a big reason that so many of us grew up terrified that we’d be ostracized, wondering if there was something twisted in us and confronted with laws that treated us as second-class citizens. We were supposedly in moral error, and thus deserved a lesser lot.
Second class is actually a much higher category than the one into which Moore would corral us. In 2002 he called sexual relations between people of the same gender “an act so heinous that it defies one’s ability to describe it.” Trust me on this: It’s not so terribly difficult to describe. I’ll walk him through it over a chicken salad sandwich in the Times cafeteria. My treat.
In 2005 he said that having sex with somebody of the same gender was akin to having sex with a cow, a horse or a dog, and that not having sex with a cow, a horse, a dog or a person of the same gender was “a moral precept upon which this country was founded.” I do not recall the bestiality clause of the Constitution, but, as mentioned, my memory is spotty.
And it is most decidedly a personal take, in which he picks and chooses what to be outraged by. Although Christianity as I understand it doesn’t smile on the florid lying, womanizing, hypersexual vocabulary and assorted cruelties that have been prominent threads in Donald Trump’s life, Moore and many other evangelical Christians spared Trump their censure
On Thursday, Moore tweeted that “the forces of evil will lie, cheat, steal — even inflict physical harm — if they believe it will silence and shut up Christian conservatives like you and me.” So this is a war waged on him and his kind? What about the war that his breed of conservatives has been waging on the rest of us? It is arrogant and without empathy, and some of its generals use their cause as camouflage.
They also read the Bible selectively, as Zeigler demonstrated to the point of parody. Joseph and Mary as evangelists of transgenerational love? If you buy that, then allow me an invention of my own about the three wise men.
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Wyatt/bad anonymous still can't bring himself to condemn a 32 year old man having sexual contact with a 14 year old, instead he makes excuses for it - SAD!
"brilliant anonymous still can't bring himself to condemn a 32 year old man having sexual contact with a 14 year old, instead he makes excuses for it - SAD!"
more diversion to conceal lying
to recap, lying is something Priya does regularly
lots of people do
I wouldn't make too big a deal of it except that Priya is constantly judging others and then claiming to be someone known for honesty
hypocrisy is just it's own category of vice
so, I awarded one of Priya's lies the other day as lie of the day
here it is:
"Alabama GOP voters recently learned that Moore took a 14-year old child—whom he promised her mother he would watch while she attended a custody hearing— to his home in the woods, gave her alcohol, stripped her, slobbered over her, and tried to guide her hand to his private area.
anonymous and other Republicans defended Moore saying the age difference wasn't a big deal."
I never said it was no big deal if a 32-year-old made sexual advances on a 14-year-old
that's just a lie
Priya has gone into full Clinton mode to divert from the lie
first this:
"Oh, sure, just like when you claimed no one including you had ever said transwomen were a threat to biological women in the bathroom when In this thread at May 14, 2017 5:26 PM you accused a transwoman of just that: "can prey on young girls in the ladies' room as much as possible,"
oh, but no one has to take my word for it
scour the comments above and you won't see me making the comment that Priya lied and said I made
then Priya goes on:
"I didn't put that you said it was no big deal in quotes, that was an accurate paraphrase of what you said. You refuse to condemn Moores illegal conduct, instead choosing to minimize it at every opportunity."
Priya, you're fooling no one.
a "paraphrase" doesn't change facts
what you did was not a "paraphrase" but an irrational extrapolation to create a false impression
you lied
you do so frequently
admit it, and move on
alas, Jerry Brown or Joe Biden would have beaten Trump easily
alas:
WASHINGTON — In the weeks before Donald J. Trump took office, lawyers joining his administration gathered at a law firm near the Capitol, where Donald F. McGahn II, the soon-to-be White House counsel, filled a white board with a secret battle plan to fill the federal appeals courts with young and deeply conservative judges.
Mr. McGahn, instructed by Mr. Trump to maximize the opportunity to reshape the judiciary, mapped out potential nominees and a strategy, according to two people familiar with the effort: Start by filling vacancies on appeals courts with multiple openings and where Democratic senators up for re-election next year in states won by Mr. Trump — like Indiana, Michigan and Pennsylvania — could be pressured not to block his nominees. And to speed them through confirmation, avoid clogging the Senate with too many nominees for the district courts, where legal philosophy is less crucial.
Nearly a year later, that plan is coming to fruition. Mr. Trump has already appointed eight appellate judges, the most this early in a presidency since Richard M. Nixon, and on Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted along party lines to send a ninth appellate nominee — Mr. Trump’s deputy White House counsel, Gregory Katsas — to the floor.
Republicans are systematically filling appellate seats they held open during President Barack Obama’s final two years in office with a particularly conservative group of judges with life tenure. Democrats — who in late 2013 abolished the ability of 41 lawmakers to block such nominees with a filibuster, then quickly lost control of the Senate — have scant power to stop them.
Most have strong academic credentials and clerked for well-known conservative judges, like Justice Antonin Scalia. Of Mr. Trump’s 18 appellate nominees so far, 14 are men and 16 are white.
While the two parties have been engaged in a tit-for-tat escalation of hardball politics over judicial nominations since the Reagan years, the Trump administration is completing a fundamental transformation of the enterprise.
Conservatives are reveling in their success. During the campaign, Mr. Trump shored up the support of skeptical right-wing voters by promising to select Supreme Court justices from a list Mr. McGahn put together with help from the Federalist Society and the conservative Heritage Foundation. Exit polls showed that court-focused voters helped deliver the president’s narrow victory. Now, he is rewarding them.
“We will set records in terms of the number of judges,” Mr. Trump said at the White House recently, adding that many more nominees were in the pipeline. Standing beside the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, he continued, “There has never been anything like what we’ve been able to do together with judges.”
drip...drip...drip
Roy Moore, the Republican’s nominee in the Alabama fight for the U.S. Senate seat, announced he’s going to sue The Washington Post for the series of stories that implicate him in sexual dalliances with underage girls 40 years ago.
More moony crap no one will bother to read.
We're too busy looking at Trump holding hands with fellow thug, Duarte.
Man, does Trump ever wish he could lead like Dictator Duarte without regard to democratically determined laws or civil rights.
Two House Republicans delivered an ultimatum Monday to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, telling him either to name a special counsel to investigate FBI Director James Comey’s handling of last year’s election, or else resign to clear the way for someone who will.
Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Matt Gaetz of Florida said questions are piling up over the way Mr. Comey conducted the investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s secret emails and the FBI’s treatment of an anti-Trump dossier.
“It’s time for Jeff Sessions to name a Special Counsel and get answers for the American people. If not, he should step down,” the congressmen said.
They said Mr. Comey’s decision to draft an exoneration letter regarding Mrs. Clinton months before the end of the investigation, and well before the FBI talked to her, was troubling.
So, they said, was Mr. Comey’s handling of the anti-Trump dossier. They said if it was so concerning, the director should have briefed the president-elect well before the Jan. 6 briefing Mr. Comey delivered.
And the congressmen said the 2010 deal that saw the U.S. approve sale of uranium to Russian interests demands a more thorough investigation, saying it calls into question the independence of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is probing Trump campaign figures’ work with Russia.
Poll: Plurality of Evangelicals More Likley to Support Roy Moore Now
A new poll taken in the wake of allegations that Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore “dated” several women between the ages of 14 and 18 when he was in his 30s finds that a plurality of evangelical Christian voters in that state are actually more likely to support him now than they were before.
Nearly 40 percent of Evangelical Christians in Alabama say they’re now more likely to vote for Roy Moore after multiple allegations that he molested children, even as voters across the historically red state now seem to be punishing Moore for his past actions, a new poll shows.
So for those scoring at home: We can’t let trans people use public restrooms because they might molest young girls. We can’t give gay people rights because they just want to molest young boys. But faced with a candidate with serious and credible accusations of having actually molested underaged teens, they’re actually more likely to support him than before. Because it’s all about the children, dontchaknow.
Wyatt/bad anonoymous when a 32 year old gay man molests a 14 year old boy - "Lock the pervert up!".
Wyatt/bad anonymous when a 32 year old man molests a 14 year old girl - "It was a different time, that sort of thing was common at the time".
Priya doubles down on the pathetic lying. Why not? If you're a TTFer, this blog supports your lie. Just for the record, I did not say "it was a different time" about the allegations of the 14-year-old, who is now in her late fifties, I believe. Anyway, Priya continues to provide daily confirmation of Priya's status as a liar.
btw, we got a serious problem with one of those moderate Republicans you guys like so much:
"Former President George H. W. Bush has been accused of groping a woman who was just 16 years old at the time.
Roslyn Corrigan, the daughter of a CIA employee based in Texas, told TIME magazine that the 41st president grabbed her behind when he visited her father’s office and took a photo with her family in November 2003.
“As soon as the picture was being snapped on the one-two-three he dropped his hands from my waist down to my buttocks and gave it a nice, ripe squeeze, which would account for the fact that in the photograph my mouth is hanging wide open,” she said.
Corrigan says that she was 16 years old and “a child” at the time.
The TIME report cites multiple people who she spoke to about the alleged groping, including her mother directly after it happened.
She is the sixth woman to allege that they were groped by the Republican, whose original statements about the incidents centered on the fact that his hands are near women's bottoms because of the wheelchair he has used for the past several years.
Bush was standing up for the 2003 photo, and was not in a wheelchair for alleged gropings in 2004 and 2006.
His spokesman Jim McGrath did not immediately respond for a request for comment about the new allegations in relation to previous explanations about the wheelchair.
Former Moore Co-worker: He Liked to Date Teen Girls
In addition to the people cited by the Washington Post in its story about Roy Moore trying to “date” — that is, sexually assault — girls as young as 14, one of his former colleagues at the district attorney’s office where he worked at the time says that he was widely known to like dating teen girls.
“It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird,” former Deputy DA Theresa Jones reportedly told CNN. “We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall.”
“Late 70’s and 80’s – at that time and atmosphere it was weird he was dating teenagers but you really wouldn’t say anything to someone like that,” Jones continued…
“I was a deputy DA in Gadsden with Roy Moore. I have no doubt these stories have validity,” Teresa D. Jones of Sarasota posted. “Roy was known to eschew dating his own age and preferred teenagers.”
Just another piece of evidence against Moore. It really starts to add up, doesn’t it? Five different women and several people who knew him at the time have all told or corroborated those stories. None of them came forward on their own, none of them have filed a suit looking for money, nothing like that. And all they have in response is “this is s plot against me!”
I was 17 in '79 and dating a 14 year old girl. Some people thought that was too big an age difference at the time.
Contrary to Wyatt/bad anonymous's claim that "it was a different time and girls married young then", it was just as unacceptable then for a 32 year old to seek sex with a 14 year old as it is now.
Roy Moore will sue the Washington Post for covering his sexual misconduct just like Trump sued the New York Times for covering his sexual misconduct. (Hint: Trump never followed through on his empty threat to sue the NYT or his accusers). Dear Roy Moore: Please sue the Washington Post - it'll work out great for you!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Victim: "I was abused"
Republicans: " We need 320 photos, 93 videos and 74 witnesses."
Roy Moore: "I didn't do it."
Republicans: "Okay then, we believe you."
Liberals:
Weinstein: lost his company & wife
Wiener: lost his job & wife; convicted felon
Spacey: lost his show and movies
Conservatives:
O'Reilly: lost show but considered victim to fans
Trump" "won" the presidency
Moore: "its like Joseph and Mary"
"Former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos told senior policy adviser Stephen Miller in an email last April that he had received an "interesting message" from Russia — one day after learning that the Kremlin had apparent "dirt" on Hillary Clinton.
The emails were disclosed in court documents filed by special counsel Robert Mueller’s office and unsealed late last month. The New York Times revealed last weekend that Miller was the "senior policy adviser" described, but not named, in the court filings.
Miller, who remains a top White House policy adviser and speechwriter for President Donald Trump, was in regular contact with Papadopoulos over the course of several months last year, the court filings show. He has reportedly been interviewed by Mueller as part of the special counsel's probe into potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow...."
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/11/13/papadopoulos-said-he-had-a-message-from-russia-one-day-after-learning-of-clinton-dirt/23275614/
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"Former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos told senior policy adviser Stephen Miller in an email last April that he had received an "interesting message" from Russia — one day after learning that the Kremlin had apparent "dirt" on Hillary Clinton."
so what?
Hillary received an "interesting message" via her paid investigators from Russia — with apparent "dirt" on Trump
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Trump's most inane tweet ever?
Donald Trump tweets asinine things on a daily basis, usually multiple times a day, but this one that he threw out there while in Vietnam may take the cake. The level of dishonesty and childishness in it is almost impressive, even for Trump.
"Wy would Kim Jon-un insult me byh calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!"
For the record, Kim Jong-un called Trump a “lunatic old man.” And the thing that bothers him about that is not the lunatic part, it’s the old part. The man is 70 years old. That’s old (hell, I’m 50 and I’m old). But what about the rest of it? What could it possibly mean when he says he’s tried “so hard to be his friend”? What could friends even mean in such a context? And what has he done to try so hard to be his friend? By doing what, exactly? By tweeting stupid things about him? By threatening to nuke the country? By moving a carrier group off the coast? By making the sanctions tougher? Do those things make it more likely that they’re going to start taking Turkish baths together?
And I’m not saying that it’s wrong to put sanctions on North Korea, or to show a strong military deterrent. But those things aren’t consistent with claiming to be trying to be Kim’s friend. Nor should we be trying to be his friend. We should be trying for a cold, sober detente with them that prevents him from getting nuclear weapons. Friendship is completely irrelevant.
Best response I’ve seen so far to this tweet, from several different people: If this tweet were any more childish, Roy Moore would try to date it. Teddy Roosevelt famously said that the key to foreign policy was to speak softly, but carry a big stick. Trump prefers the “I know you are, but what am I” approach.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Moore isn't denying the two older girls".
Moore said he may have dated teenagers but he doesn't remember because he dated a lot of girls. He isn't credible when he says he doesn't remember who he dated but somehow is sure he didn't attempt to date this 14 year old.
Five different women and several people who knew him at the time have all told or corroborated those stories. None of them came forward on their own, none of them have filed a suit looking for money, nothing like that. And all they have in response is “this is s plot against me!”
So, there you have it. Hypocrite Wyatt/bad anonymous says a 17 year old dating a 14 year old is "creepy" but a 32 year old dating a 16 year old "isn't a problem" and is "not that unusual"
The truth is it certainly was unusual and creepy for a 32 year old to be dating a 16 (or 14) year old at that time regardless of how vehemently Wyatt/bad anonymous tries to defend it.
Roy Moore is a pervert and even his co-workers at the time acknowledged that.
Look at Ivanka Trump eye humping Justin Who can blame her? You know it, eh Wyatt!
"Hillary received an "interesting message" via her paid investigators from Russia — with apparent "dirt" on Trump"
She did? Who sent the message, which one of Hillary's campaign workers got the message and which "senior policy advisor" did they share it with?
What you've got there is a big fat empty conspiracy theory that does not warrant a special prosecutor while Trump campaign's collusion with Russia has been going on at least since Papadopoulos joined in March 2016.
In fact you are now doing Putin's bidding via smoke and mirrors for him.
What a deplorable traitor you are!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/13/roy-moore-sexual-assault-allegations-condemned-by-growing-number-republican-lawmakers.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-roy-moore_us_5a09c540e4b0bc648a0caa60
Check out the videos at #BoycottKeurig where you will see grown up US voters threatening, "You'd better start advertising again or I'll destroy my own stuff," after Keurig (along with Nature's Bounty, 23andMe, Realtor.com and ELOQUII.com) decided to no longer advertise on Hannity's show.
This seems like a weird thing to do but it certainly seems like something that Hannity's viewers would think makes sense.
After all, they watch Hannity.
"Moore said he may have dated teenagers but he doesn't remember because he dated a lot of girls. He isn't credible when he says he doesn't remember who he dated but somehow is sure he didn't attempt to date this 14 year old."
of course, he's credible
he doesn't remember the specific older teens because he knows he would do that
he's sure about the 14-year-old because he knows he wouldn't
"Five different women and several people who knew him at the time have all told or corroborated those stories. None of them came forward on their own, none of them have filed a suit looking for money, nothing like that. And all they have in response is “this is s plot against me!”"
again, he is denying that the allegations that he initiated sexual activity with a 14-year-old
no one is "corrobrating" the story of the 14-year-old
"corroboration" of the other stories is irrelevant because he doesn't deny their stories
that they were courted by him, without a physical relationship, and with the consent of their parents
Priya is deceptively using a bunch of phrases implying Moore is denying a bunch of corroborated stories
he's not
Priya is a liar
"So, there you have it. Hypocrite anonymous says a 17 year old dating a 14 year old is "creepy" but a 32 year old dating a 16 year old "isn't a problem" and is "not that unusual""
oh, you misunderstand
what I thought was creepy was some guy named Randy chasing much younger girls when he secretly thought he was one
it's like something from a Stephen king "novel"
"Roy Moore is a pervert and even his co-workers at the time acknowledged that."
they said he dated younger girls
they didn't characterize it as you say
"She did? Who sent the message, which one of Hillary's campaign workers got the message and which "senior policy advisor" did they share it with?"
we don't know yet because her co-conspirators are fighting subpoenas by Congress to testify about it
"What you've got there is a big fat empty conspiracy theory that does not warrant a special prosecutor while Trump campaign's collusion with Russia has been going on at least since Papadopoulos joined in March 2016."
neither Hillary or Trump's behavior warrants a special prosecutor because no crimes were committed - unless Hillary's funneling campaign funds to foreign actors is a crime
Congressional investigations are justified, however, because Congress may want to consider legislation to prevent, in the future, stuff like the Clintons did
"In fact you are now doing Putin's bidding via smoke and mirrors for him.
What a deplorable traitor you are!"
Hillary and Harry Reid were the ones trying to get the media to print the dossier
"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/13/roy-moore-sexual-assault-allegations-condemned-by-growing-number-republican-lawmakers.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-roy-moore_us_5a09c540e4b0bc648a0caa60"
guys, guys..
Moore will be elected
he'll be expelled, after an investigation
there will be a special election and someone else GOPish will win
probably Sessions, who will go back to his old job gladly
Beverly Young Nelson claimed that when she tried to leave a car that she was sharing with Roy Moore — who was then the District Attorney of Etiwah County while she was 16 — he "reached over and locked it so I could not get out." She then attempted to fight him off and yelled at him to stop, which prompted Moore to start "squeezing my neck attempting to force my head onto his crotch." As she continued crying, he tried to rip her shirt off, she said.
"He forced my head onto his crotch," Nelson said. "I continued to struggle. I was determined that I was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought he was going to rape me."
Nelson claimed that Moore warned that no one would believe her if she accused him because of his political power and her status as a minor. "You're just a child and I am the district attorney," she said. "If you tell anyone about this, no one will ever believe you." Then he left her in the middle of a parking lot.
Beverly Young Nelson was not part of the Post story. She came forward later with infamous lawyer Gloria Allred. Timing raises suspicions. Look for her to write a book eventually
Wyatt/bad anonymous can't even bring himself to condemn Trump touching his daughter inappropriately like this and talking about wanting to date her.
Timing raises suspicions.
Cosby
Pussy Grabber
Weinstein
Spacey
The timing is right on.
Victims of sexual abuse are not going to take it and remain silent anymore.
you forgot George Takei
problem is if we give liberal media outlets veto power over the election, it just becomes part of the problem
the Post has virtually deserted all objectivity and has as its objective, the destruction of the Trump presidency
the Post had this story before Weinstein, it chose to publish it at the time of maximum effectiveness
"can't even bring himself to condemn Trump"
Priya seems to want to "condemn" people a lot
draw your own conclusions...
Several days ago Moore denied sexually assaulting four teenagers when he was in his thirties a day later he said he didn't recall if he had attempted to date teenagers
Clearly he can't be taken seriously when he claims he didn't sexually assault a 14 year old.
Since then a fifth woman has come forward and saidRoy Moore sexually abused her when she was 16 and he was 39.
Contrast Justin Trudea with the pussy grabbing popular vote loser:
Trump is greeted in the Phillipines with a mob burning U.S. flags, burning Trump in effigy, and condemning the U.S.
Justin is greeted in the Phillipines like a Rock Star with thousands of adoring fans wildly cheering him and eager to take pictures with the leader of the free world
"Several days ago Moore denied sexually assaulting four teenagers when he was in his thirties a day later he said he didn't recall if he had attempted to date teenagers"
actually, no one accused him of assaulting four teenagers
this is another lie by Priya
"Clearly he can't be taken seriously when he claims he didn't sexually assault a 14 year old."
I think it's pretty clear your integrity was proven non-existent long ago
"Since then a fifth woman has come forward and saidRoy Moore sexually abused her when she was 16 and he was 39."
crashing the party with a wild tale
didn't sound anything like the other stories
"Contrast Justin Trudea with the pussy grabbing popular vote loser"
sad that Priya can't even spell the name of her fearful leader
are you telling me Justin never grabbed a pussy?:
"Trump is greeted in the Phillipines with a mob burning U.S. flags, burning Trump in effigy, and condemning the U.S."
and why would that be?
"Justin is greeted in the Phillipines like a Rock Star with thousands of adoring fans wildly cheering him and eager to take pictures with the leader of the free world"
what?
is "the free world" the name of one of his video games?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-jr-communicated-with-wikileaks-during-2016-campaign/2017/11/13/947e64d4-c8bb-11e7-aa96-54417592cf72_story.html
Beverly Young Nelson claimed that when she tried to leave a car that she was sharing with Roy Moore — who was then the District Attorney of Etowah County while she was 16 — he "reached over and locked it so I could not get out." She then attempted to fight him off and yelled at him to stop, which prompted Moore to start "squeezing my neck attempting to force my head onto his crotch." As she continued crying, he tried to rip her shirt off, she said.
"He forced my head onto his crotch," Nelson said. "I continued to struggle. I was determined that I was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought he was going to rape me."
Nelson claimed that Moore warned her that no one would believe her if she accused him because of his political power and her status as a minor. "You're just a child and I am the district attorney," she said. "If you tell anyone about this, no one will ever believe you." Then he left her in the middle of a parking lot.
"I got up, I got up and I tried to pull myself together as I was making way to the front of the restaurant when my boyfriend arrived," Nelson told reporters at a press conference on Monday. "It was late, it was dark and I did not say anything to him about what had occurred as he had a very violent temper and I was afraid he would do something that would get him into trouble."
Nelson said that she abruptly quit her job at a restaurant. She later told her mother and sister, as well as her husband before they got married. In a notable moment, she also told the reporters that both she and her husband John had voted for Donald Trump and that her speaking out against Moore has nothing to do with politics.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mcconnell-calls-on-roy-moore-to-end-senate-campaign-following-accusations-of-sexual-misconduct/2017/11/13/1ca48d56-c890-11e7-aa96-54417592cf72_story.html
"This is not giving "liberal media outlets veto power over the election" said...
Beverly Young Nelson claimed"
yeah, it is
Beverly has a great story
sounds like it could have come from the racy romance
she could be telling the truth, but with the passage of time, that will never be known
we have to have some standards to avoid chaos
"https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mcconnell-calls-on-roy-moore-to-end-senate-campaign"
many have called on Mitch to do the same
maybe Moore will replace him
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "sad that Priya can't even spell the name of [Justin Trudeau]".
LOL, Wyatt is upset that I spelled his heartthrob's name wrong.
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
If Wyatt ever wound up next to Justin he'd be making the same heart aflutter weak in the knees look Ivanka did when she was next to Justin.
"The TLC network has announced that they are no longer affiliated with Derick Dillard — the husband of “Counting On” star Jill Dillard (née Duggar).
The decision was made in the wake of a series of tweets written by the Duggar family member regarding 16-year-old transgender reality TV personality Jazz Jennings, whose show “I Am Jazz” also airs on TLC. Dillard refused to use the pronouns transgenders insist on and, instead, referred to Jennings as “he.”
Dillard tweeted on Thursday, Nov. 9, “I pity Jazz 4 those who take advantage of him in order 2 promote their agenda, including the parents who allow these kinds of decisions 2 be made by a child. It’s sad that ppl would use a juvenile this way. Again, nothing about him, just unfortunate what’s on tv these days.”"
pushing the homosexual agenda is why ESPN's rating have plumetted
the media-entertainment believe they authority over our speech
bye-bye, TLC
REPORT: Roy Moore Was Once Banned From Alabama Mall For Badgering Young Girls, Former Cops Say
This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees...“Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.)
Let's face it, there are just too many accusers coming forward for Moore to be innocent of sexual assault on minors.
And yet Wyatt/bad anonymous absurdly claims gays are the immoral ones and is defending this guy non-stop - DISGUSTING!
poor Priya
can't find the way back to mental health
the wages of living a deceitful life is that you begin to lose the ability to perceive reality
don't let this happen to you!
accept who you are
well, the long arc of history bends toward justice
Jeff Sessions announced tonight that he is naming a special prosecutor to investigate the actions of one Hillary Clinton and another James Comey and the sleazeball outfit that Hillary paid to slime the President, as well as the infamous Uranium One bribery scheme
he needs the special prosecutor to avoid having it look like the victor is investigating it's loser oppposition
the prosecutor will be someone completely objective, from FOX News' legal team
Its always the highly vocal anti-gay bigots like Roy Moore who turn out to be the biggest perverts themselves.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Jeff Sessions announced tonight that he is naming a special prosecutor to investigate the actions of one Hillary Clinton".
Of course Wyatt/bad anonymous is lying again. Sessions only mentioned that he is "open to the idea" - it won't happen. And even if it did it'll be just like the dozens of other investigations into Clinton spending millions of dollars and dozens of Republicans spending years and years digging furiously for something, anything, they could make a bid deal out of and yet they found NOTHING.
Hillary is obviously squeaky clean.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Sessions and the Republicans are obviously desperate to distract from the ever increasing heat from the Mueller probe now that indictment after indictment of Trump's people have been forthcoming and they're terrified of who's next. Sessions is feeling the pressure in particular as he has to testify Tomorrow before congress about his lying under oath about not having had contacts with Russia during the campaign - this is getting juicy!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
"Its always the highly vocal anti-gay bigots like Roy Moore who turn out to be the biggest perverts themselves"
Its always the highly vocal gay advocates like George Takei who turn out to be the biggest perverts
Priya lying again:
"Sessions only mentioned that he is "open to the idea" - it won't happen."
he directed senior federal prosecutors to explore this and report back to him, it'll happen
"And even if it did it'll be just like the dozens of other investigations into Clinton spending millions of dollars and dozens of Republicans spending years and years digging furiously for something, anything, they could make a bid deal out of and yet they found NOTHING."
just last year, Comey found Hillary guilty of extreme carelessness in handling classified information
why he recommended against prosecution will be a topic of investigation, but he definitely found SOMETHING
"Hillary is obviously squeaky clean."
sure, that's why she keeps getting rejected by voters and has an abysmal truthworthiness rating in polls
"Sessions and the Republicans are obviously desperate to distract from the ever increasing heat from the Mueller probe now that indictment after indictment of Trump's people have been forthcoming and they're terrified of who's next."
why do we care if Russians lied on our social media when we let some weaselly come here and lie regularly?
oh that's right, the Canadian's lies are so obvious that no one cares
"Beverly has a great story"
It's bullies like you who give good men who respect women and understand the concept of consent a bad name.
Hearing a grown woman finally find the courage to tell the world about the traumatizing sexual assault she suffered as a "child" by her home town DA, who told her "You're just a child and I am the district attorney. If you tell anyone about this, no one will ever believe you," is not considered to be "a good story" by people who respect women.
Your low opinion of this brave woman fits right in with your affinity for fellow bullies like your pussy grabber president and the sexual assaulters formerly of Fox News.
"Your low opinion of this brave woman fits right in with your affinity for fellow bullies like your pussy grabber president and the sexual assaulters formerly of Fox News."
also fits right in with bullies like Hillary, who said of the women accusing Bill of sexual assault, "it's amazing what you'll come up with when you drag a dollar bill through a trailer park"
why are all the "brave" victims always with stories from decades ago?
did Moore suddenly stop assaulting women after his thirties?
if so, it's not typical of sexual predators, which would cast some doubt on this person's story and the 14-year-old
I'm not saying they are not telling the truth
but you can't know for sure
so, if they are telling the truth, that's sad
if they were going to be brave, they should have done so long ago
we could restore moral standards of conduct that will prevent this situation
there was a time when it would be inappropriate for single men and women to be alone together in certain situations
it was long before TTF taught that public schools kids that teens promiscuity is OK and expected
Hillary again?
She lost the election more than a year ago and now even FOX news has completely dropped Benghazi coverage.
Get with the program, you are behind the times.
The brave victims speaking up NOW are from decades ago because the dam has burst.
Victims of sexual abuse like Beverly Young Nelson, who was sexually abused by bully Roy Moore, are no longer going to let powerful male predators get away with it.
Disinfecting daylight has been withheld too long.
Victims are speaking up and telling the world the truth about the abuse they have suffered at the hands of male sexual abusers.
"there was a time when it would be inappropriate for single men and women to be alone together in certain situations"
Yeah, look what Roy Moore did when he was allowed to be alone with teenage girls.
Roy Moore groped a 16 year old's breasts against her will in a dark parking area behind a restaurant and placed a 14 year old girl's hand over his underpants and directly on his erect penis in his own home back in the woods.
Anthony Weiner only sent selfies of his erect penis in tighty-whiteys to his teenage victims over the internet.
Weiner didn't touch any teens inappropriately and he didn't force any teens to touch his tighty-whitey covered erect penis like Roy Moore did.
Weiner did not threaten them with "You're just a child and I am a US Congressman. If you tell anyone about this, no one will ever believe you" either.
What Moore did was many times worse than what Weiner did.
If Weiner deserves jail time, so does former Judge Moore.
Don't worry, Trump will pardon him ... if Bannon gets his way.
"it was long before TTF taught that public schools kids that teens promiscuity is OK and expected"
< eye roll >
Be sure to show us that quote from the curriculum.
< Crickets recommence chirping >
"Hillary again?
She lost the election more than a year ago and now even FOX news has completely dropped Benghazi coverage."
funny how every time a liberal hears Hillary, they plug their ears and shout "Benghazi"!
that incident was a moment of dereliction of duty and incompetence, but that's not scandalous
"Get with the program, you are behind the times."
Pay attention. Her claim to have been victimized in the 2016 is currently the obsession of our national discussion
this all got started because of a dossier of false information she requisitioned
"The brave victims speaking up NOW are from decades ago because the dam has burst."
yes, but what happened to the victims of Roy Moore during the last three decades
weren't they behind the dam?
"Victims of sexual abuse like Beverly Young Nelson, who was sexually abused by bully Roy Moore, are no longer going to let powerful male predators get away with it."
there are only two people alleging this
they are now in late middle age
who's helping the current victims?
why does the media only have stories from 30 years ago?
"Disinfecting daylight has been withheld too long."
were you around in the 90s? "brave" women then were telling on Bill Clinton then
these stories have been around for years
the big liberals serial offenders like Weinstein have given new interest but these stories come out regularly and if that alone gave others courage, these women should have spoken up long ago
"Victims are speaking up and telling the world the truth about the abuse they have suffered at the hands of male sexual abusers."
same as it ever was
"Yeah, look what Roy Moore did when he was allowed to be alone with teenage girls."
or what he is alleged to have done
these situations should be avoided so there is no doubt
"Roy Moore groped a 16 year old's breasts against her will in a dark parking area behind a restaurant and placed a 14 year old girl's hand over his underpants and directly on his erect penis in his own home back in the woods.'
three decades allegedly, and we're to believe never again
"Anthony Weiner only sent selfies of his erect penis in tighty-whiteys to his teenage victims over the internet."
sounds pretty bad
he was closely associated with Bill and Hill, just like Weinstein
"Weiner didn't touch any teens inappropriately and he didn't force any teens to touch his tighty-whitey covered erect penis like Roy Moore did.'
isn't he in jail now?
"If Weiner deserves jail time, so does former Judge Moore."
Weiner was convicted and received several second chances.
"it was long before TTF taught that public schools kids that teens promiscuity is OK and expected"
< eye roll >
Be sure to show us that quote from the curriculum.
< Crickets recommence chirping >"
oh, the advocates said in in the papers
One good thing about Wyatt/bad anonymous, he makes every sentence a paragraph so you can tell at a glance which posts to ignore if you're not in the mood for his B.S. and lies.
Contrast how we reacted to Harvey Weinstein's sexual assaults compared to how Wyatt/bad anonymous reacts to Roy Moore's sexual assaults.
Harvey denied that there was any non-consenual sex and we joined Wyatt in condemning him and expressing sympathy for his victims and never accepted that there was any truth to the denials. We stood with his accusers and supported them, we never defended Harvey and didn't care that he is a liberal.
But when it comes to Roy Moore, Wyatt gets indignant at the suggestion Moore is lying when he says it was all consenual. Wyatt defends Moore left and right and attacks Moore's accusers, calling them liars instead of supporting them like we did with Weinsteins accussers.
Wyatt/bad anonymous is a hypocrite. Who he believes and how he reacts to accusations of sexual assault are entirely dependent on whether the alleged perpetrator is a Republican or a Liberal. By default, regardless of the situation he presumes the Republican is innocent and the Liberal guilty. We're different, it doesn't matter whether the alleged perpretrator is a Republican or a Liberal, we unconditionally condemn the abuse and support the victims.
Wyatt/bad anonymous is a hypocrite and a two-faced liar. He has no morals, he's a partisan who would happily supports evil as long as it belongs to his tribe.
Re: Wyatt/bad anonymous defending Roy Moore's violation of the first amendment by placing a monument to the ten commandments in a government building
He absurdly claims there's no first amendment violation with the government promoting christianity but if a judge put a monument to quotations from the Koran in a government building you can be sure he'd be vehemently arguing the exact opposite - then it would be all "Sharia law!" "Muslims are terrorists", "Seperate church and state!" and so on.
He's such a hypocrite!
The Treaty of Tripoli 1796:
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;
as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
According to Frank Lambert, Professor of History at Purdue University, the assurances in Article 11 were "intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced. John Adams and the Senate made clear that the pact was between two sovereign states, not between two religious powers." Lambert writes,
"By their actions, the Founding Fathers made clear that their primary concern was religious freedom, not the advancement of a state religion. Individuals, not the government, would define religious faith and practice in the United States. Thus the Founders ensured that in no official sense would America be a Christian Republic. Ten years after the Constitutional Convention ended its work, the country assured the world that the United States was a secular state, and that its negotiations would adhere to the rule of law, not the dictates of the Christian faith. The assurances were contained in the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797 and were intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced. John Adams and the Senate made clear that the pact was between two sovereign states, not between two religious powers.[14]
And it should be noted that at the time the U.S. constitution was being discussed Christian ministers were widely opposed to it specifically because it did not declare the United States was founded on christianity.
"promiscuity is OK and expected"...
"oh, the advocates said in in [sic] the papers"
LMAO
Nameless advocates in nameless papers without URLs provided to Vigilance readers by the TTF troll
"why does the media only have stories from 30 years ago?"
A better question is why didn't Jeff Sessions remember his 2016 interaction with George Papadopoulos until today's testimony on Capital Hill?
Observe how people coming forward with the truth can change the testimony of powerful men.
"Observe how people coming forward with the truth can change the testimony of powerful men"
You nailed it good anonymous!
yeah, earth-shaking
he had a meeting
and he told him that Russia had some information on Hillary's dealings with Russians
they were probably talking about her dossier financing
once we get down to the smallest nesting doll, we will find Hillary's corruption
we're getting there
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "once we get down to the smallest nesting doll, we will find Hillary's corruption".
Hahahahahahahahahahaahaha!
Republicans have spend decades, millions of dollars, dozens of committees searching desperately for something, anything on Hillary they could pretend was a big deal and found nothing.
She's obviously squeaky clean.
BROOKLYN, N.Y. ― Sometimes it takes a public story of abuse to set off a flood of other accounts. Few people understand that better than Anita Hill and Aly Raisman.
The attorney and the gymnast shared the stage at the Glamour Women of the Year Awards on Monday night to share their stories, this time together. Introduced by journalists Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey, who first broke the news of decades of sexual misconduct and assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein, Hill, Raisman, New York police officer Ann Cardenas and model Cameron Russell all shared #MeToo stories. The accounts spanned decades and industries, connecting women of different races, ages, socioeconomic backgrounds and professions.
“In 1991, I testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee that Clarence Thomas, who had repeatedly harassed me when he was my boss, was unsuitable to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court,” said Hill. “The outcome of my testimony was not what I’d hoped, but in no way was it the final word. In the five years after I testified, sexual harassment complaints filed with the EEOC more than doubled. Legislation against harassment slowly but surely began to pass. And I saw that we had a chance to shift this narrative.”
Soon after, Raisman shared what happened to her.
“Most people know me as a gymnast. But I am also a survivor,” she said. “I am among a huge number of young gymnasts abused by U.S. Olympic and USA Gymnastics team doctor Larry Nassar. This man held a position of influence and power in the sport for over 20 years. And the extent of the harm he caused is beyond comprehension. More than 130 young women have filed lawsuits alleging abuse by Nassar, and we may never know how many others may be suffering in silence. I stand here for all of them.”
“We need to say this out loud,” Hill stressed to the crowd. “Women are entitled to work, and girls are entitled to go to school and compete like Aly does in places free of sexual harassment.”
At the end of the segment, Raisman asked people who had experienced assault, abuse or harassment to stand if they wanted. Cardenas then asked people to stand who had seen those in their lives go through similar experiences. Not a single person was still seated.
#MeToo. #MeToo. #MeToo. As Raisman said: “We are all in this together.”
Wall Street Journal' columnist Kimberley Strassel makes the case to Fox News Channel's Tucker Carlson that the Steele dossier, which was funded by the DNC and Clinton campaign to smear President Trump, is one of history's most outrageous political tricks.
"We do a disservice when we even refer to it as a 'Dossier,'" she explained. "That gives it too much mystique. This is an oppo research document of lower quality than even oppo research documents."
"All campaigns do this, but usually you dig up a driving under the influence conviction, or you didn't pay your taxes one year, you plant it in the press to make the candidate look bad. This is a document based on unnamed, anonymous Russian sources, apparently. They're never been proven, a lot of them have been disproven," Strassel continued. "But here's where they have been particularly clever: They didn't give it to the press, they sent it to the FBI and then they briefed the press, and then the press was able to claim that this was intelligence that the FBI possessed, which gave it some air of credibility."
Host Tucker Carlson asks: "So, this bundle of opposition research changed American political history -- and not in the ways that it normally would. You're saying that this really is responsible for this chain reaction that has paralyzed Washington ever since?"
"Look at what happened!" Strassel said. "The Democrats like to say this document wasn't even used during the election: Not true. We know that [Former MI-6 Russia desk leader] Christopher Steele, who put this document together has testified in court documents that he briefed the press in September [2016]. Yahoo News came out with a huge story saying the FBI was in possession of 'intelligence' showing potential collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government -- the headlines were dominated by this. And the question that we still have yet to know: We know the FBI relied on this in some regard but did this document actually inspire the FBI to end up wiretapping a political campaign? Which is no small deal, by the way."
"The FBI has been playing hardball about letting House investigators see their file," Strassel explained. "Supposedly they've agreed to let them in, started to make some things available to House investigators, but all of this should be -- The thing that some people don't understand, is that when you're dealing with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA), it is not like you put in a request and they say no, it is a back and forth discussion."
"Somewhere in the FBI is a big file that explains exactly what the FBI was putting forward to the court as justification to go ahead with the tapping of Carter Page or Paul Manafort."
"The House is having more and more trouble with its enforcement authority [over the FBI], and... the Justice Department said sorry, we're not complying with your subpoena for a while. They now appear to be putting some things out, but from what I understand, not everything they need to be putting out," Strassel said. "Here's the funny thing: Every time they have an excuse for not giving it, they say it is because of special counsel Mueller. Well, if special counsel Mueller is doing this entirely because the FBI misused a dossier, all the more reason for House investigators to be looking into how this started."
Frank Schaeffer, a former evangelical Christian condemns christians supporting Roy Moore
You can imagine the anger he feels as more victims say Roy Moore molested them when they were kids, and the frustration and disappointment toward evangelical Christians for sticking by his side.
All of that rage spilled out during a recent interview on AM Joy. Enjoy this video. It’s nice to see such honest criticism from someone who used to be part of the evangelical tribe:
"… What we’re watching here is a massive shift in politics, demography, but also religion. American white evangelical Christianity that I grew up in is now part of a white supremacist movement that wants to hold onto power whether it’s by gerrymandering, voter suppression, racism, white supremacy, or even violence…
We are in a pit. This is what Hell looks like: a country where people talk about morals and wave Bibles, defending someone who’s accused of pedophilia. That’s about as low as you can get."
The last 30 seconds will put a smile on your face.
Schaeffer is right. If only other white evangelicals realized they were being duped by the Republican party to perpetuate political power at the expense of anything Jesus supposedly preached in their holy book.
It’s not that evangelicals make up a large portion of the GOP. It’s that the GOP has overwhelmingly infiltrated their churches to the point where voting for a Republican is treated as a Commandment. When you’d consider voting for an accused child molester instead of the KKK-fighting Democrat, you know some heavy religious manipulation is at work.
The FBI has asked the Senate for unredacted documents it obtained from abortion providers, signaling agents it is investigating whether Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers illegally sold fetal tissue and body parts, according to sources familiar with the document request.
The request was made in recent days, the sources said, to the Senate Judiciary Committee, whose chairman, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), last December referred Planned Parenthood and several other abortion providers to the FBI for investigation after a lengthy probe into the transfers of fetal tissue.
Grassley said at the time that his committee had uncovered enough evidence in its final investigative report to show abortion providers had transferred tissue and body parts from aborted fetuses to firms for use in research by charging dollar amounts above their actual costs.
Abortion providers are allowed under a 1993 law to transfer fetal tissue for research at a cost equal to the price of obtaining it, but are not allowed to sell it at a profit.
The Justice Department declined comment, saying it does not confirm nor deny whether an investigation is taking place.
A spokesman for the FBI did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Planned Parenthood said that none of its affiliates has had any contact with the FBI.
“Planned Parenthood strongly disagrees with the recommendations of the Senate Republican staff to refer this matter to the Justice Department,” said Dana Singiser, Vice President of Government Affairs for Planned Parenthood Federation of America.
The Senate probe and a similar investigation by the House were prompted by the public release in 2015 of several undercover videos from an anti-abortion group showing abortion providers or fetal tissue firms discussing how they took money for aborted fetuses. The Senate committee conducted interviews and gathered documents on its own as part of an investigation triggered by the videos.
It is that information, including the unredacted documents Senate Judiciary gathered from abortion providers and fetal tissue firms, that was requested by the FBI.
“The report documents the failure of the Department of Justice, across multiple administrations, to enforce the law that bans the buying and selling of human fetal tissue,” Grassley wrote last December when he asked the FBI and Justice Department to investigate Planned Parenthood and other abortion and fetal tissue providers. “… It also documents substantial evidence suggesting that the specific entities involved in the recent controversy, and/or individuals employed by those entities, have violated that law.”
Lila Rose, a prominent anti-abortion activist, praised the FBI’s document request.
“We, of course, applaud any action taken to follow the evidence to where it leads and to hold Planned Parenthood accountable,” she said. “The only thing that could hinder this investigation from leading to indictments of Planned Parenthood and the companies involved in the sale of fetal body parts is politics.”
The Senate report concluded that the prices paid for tissue and body parts exceeded the actual costs, and that in some cases such costs weren’t even calculated until after investigators began asking questions.
In one example cited by the Senate report, a firm’s own records show it paid $60 for an aborted fetus from a Planned Parenthood clinic, then transferred the various parts for $2,275 – including the brain for $325, two eyes for $650, and a part of a liver for $325.
More lies by Wyatt/bad anonymous - Yawn.
Planned parenthood didn't receive payment for any fetal tissue. The amounts charged were solely to cover the transportation and storage costs of getting the fetal tissue to researchers, you know for research into things like Alzheimers, cancer, and various other afflictions we all benefit from having treatments for.
Roy Moore's alleged pursuit of a young girl is the symptom of a larger problem in evangelical circles
We need to talk about the segment of American culture that probably doesn’t think the allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore are particularly damning, the segment that will blanch at only two accusations in the Washington Post expose: He pursued a 14-year-old-girl without first getting her parents’ permission, and he initiated sexual contact outside of marriage. That segment is evangelicalism. In that world, which Moore travels in and I grew up in, 14-year-old girls courting adult men isn’t uncommon.
I use the phrase “14-year-old girls courting adult men,” rather than “adult men courting 14-year-old girls,” for a reason: Evangelicals routinely frame these relationships in those terms.
One popular courtship story that was told and retold in home-school circles during the 1990s was that of Matthew and Maranatha Chapman, who turned their history into a successful career promoting young marriage. Most audiences, however, didn’t realize just how young the Chapmans had in mind until the site Homeschoolers Anonymous and the blogger Libby Anne revealed that Matthew was 27 and Maranatha was 15 when they married. Libby Anne also drew mainstream attention to Matthew Chapman’s writings, in which he argued that parents should consider marriage for their daughters in their “middle-teens.” At that point the Chapmans stopped receiving quite so many speaking invitations.
“Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson advocated for adult men to marry 15- and 16-year-old girls and deemed age 20 too old because “you wait until they get to be 20 years old, the only picking that’s going to take place is your pocket.” Home-school leader Kevin Swanson, whose 2015 convention was attended by several Republican presidential candidates, defended Robertson on his radio show after the story broke. Advocating for child marriage hasn’t slowed down Robertson’s career. He just got a new show on the conservative digital network CRTV.
As a teenager, I attended a lecture on courtship by a home-school speaker who was popular at the time. He praised the idea of “early courtship” so the girl could be molded into the best possible helpmeet for her future husband. The girl’s father was expected to direct her education after the courtship began so she could help her future husband in his work.
In retrospect, I understand what the speaker was really describing: Adult men selecting and grooming girls who were too young to have life experience. Another word for that is “predation.”
Much of the sexual abuse that takes place in Independent Fundamentalist Baptist, or IFB, churches involves adult men targeting 14- to 16-year-old girls. If caught, the teenage victim may be forced to repent the “sin” of having seduced an adult man. Former IFB megachurch pastor Jack Schaap argued that he should be released from prison after being convicted of molesting a 16-year-old girl, asserting that the “aggressiveness” of his victim “inhibited [his] impulse control.” In the wake of the Schaap case, numerous other stories emerged of sexual abuse cover-ups involving teenage girls at IFB churches. In another high-profile case, pregnant 15-year-old Tina Anderson, who was raped by a church deacon twice her age, was forced to confess her “sin” to the congregation.
Prominent conservative Reformed theologian Doug Wilson has a documented history of mishandling sexual abuse cases within his congregation. Nevertheless, he continues to be promoted by evangelical leaders such as John Piper, whose Desiring God site still publishes Wilson’s work. When a 13-year-old girl in Wilson’s congregation was sexually abused, Wilson argued that she and her abuser were in a parent-sanctioned courtship, and that this was a mitigating factor.
There’s no shortage of such stories. A Presbyterian Church in America, or PCA, pastor attempted to discipline a woman who warned home-school parents of the convicted sex offender in his congregation. (The sex offender had gone online to solicit a 14-year-old girl for sex.) Another PCA church allowed that same convicted sex offender to give the invocation at a home-school graduation ceremony. He wasn’t perceived as an attempted child rapist, and he was “repentant.”
Growing up, I witnessed an influential religious right leader flirting with some of my teenage friends and receiving neck and shoulder massages from one of them. I’ve been expecting a scandal to break with him for years, but in the meantime, this man has put significant time into campaigning for anti-trans bathroom bills while deeming trans people “predators.”
The allegations against Roy Moore are merely a symptom of a larger problem. It’s not a Southern problem or an Alabama problem. It’s a Christian fundamentalist problem. Billy Graham’s grandson, Boz Tchividjian, who leads the organization GRACE (Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment), believes that the sexual abuse problem in Protestant communities is on par with that in the Catholic Church.
The evangelical world is overdue for a reckoning. Women raised in evangelicalism and fundamentalism have for years discussed the normalization of child sexual abuse. We’ve told our stories on social media and on our blogs and various online platforms, but until the Roy Moore story broke, mainstream American society barely paid attention. Everyone assumed this was an isolated, fringe issue. It isn’t
**And notice the picture of Wyatt/bad anonymous's hero Roy Moore standing beside a 10 commandmens monument that lists one of the commandments as "Do not lie" - Wyatt/bad anonymous adamantly insisted there was no such commandment, that his god only really oppposed lying about what you'd seen your neighbour do and that other lies were lesser and so okay. He also repeatedly denied that most chrisitians took "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour" as a general prohibition against lying (they do).
By now, it’s impossible to believe there was no collusion involving foreign powers in the 2016 presidential election. It’s just that the campaign in question isn’t Trump’s. If you’ve missed the evidence pointing to Clinton collusion, you’ve not been following the events precipitating—and now engulfing—the Mueller investigation very carefully.
With the initial set of indictments handed down recently in that sprawling, curiously one-sided investigation, it has become clear that the investigation has run far afield of its original charter. The real and entirely political purpose of this unconstitutional farce is becoming clear.
Mueller’s partisan legal team composed largely of Democratic donors was never assembled to uncover the real collusion, but instead to bury it. Its real purpose was to project the illusion that the campaign cheerfully engaged in various kinds of collusion—Hillary Clinton’s—was, in fact, the helpless victim of collusion.
The hard, if elusive, evidence of her scheming is beginning to emerge despite the mainstream media blockade and the complete indifference of Team Mueller. It is time now to consider seriously that the opposite of the conventional narrative is true.
Yes, it is time to confront the shocking possibility that our own government colluded with its preferred presidential campaign, a campaign that concocted a bogus “dossier” with the help of useful idiots and willing foreign powers (including, but not limited to, Russia), and then used politically weaponized federal agencies to spy on and attempt to destroy the Republican candidate for President in 2016.
Worse, when that effort failed, the outgoing administration and its holdovers then embarked on an aggressive, multi-layered criminal conspiracy to undermine the legitimacy of the electoral victor, even if that meant destabilizing our entire political system.
This, despite Hillary’s incessant lecturing and the media’s plodding insistence after the debates, that the eventual winner acknowledge the importance of losing gracefully. This, apparently, is a lesson only Republicans are supposed to learn.
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"Planned parenthood didn't receive payment for any fetal tissue."
nice that Priya has a mental condition allowing Priya to deny reality
a sickening pig
"The amounts charged were solely to cover the transportation and storage costs of getting the fetal tissue to researchers,"
Senator after Senator that has reviewed the evidence says otherwise
"you know for research into things like Alzheimers, cancer, and various other afflictions we all benefit from having treatments for."
yeah, Nazis killed people and experimented on them too
Margaret Sanger believed in eugenics and, like Adolf Hitler, believed we could use birth control and murder to cleanse the world of inferior and inconvenient lifes
a sickening pig
Jeff Sessions holds investments in the privatized prison system. He is reinstituting maximum penalties for low level drug offenses. He will be personally profiting by incarcerating more individuals for longer periods of time.
Jeff Sessions - Swamp Monster
If Jeff Sessions had someone who testified before the Department of Justice and they changed their story several times after new information was revealed by someone else, would he prosecute them or just let them get away with that?
Jeff Sessions - guilty of perjury
The Russian Foreign Minsitry sent 60 payments to its embassies across the globe most of them bearing a note that siad the money was to be used "to finance the election campaign of 2016" - its very suspicious.
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BREAKING: Australia Votes YES In Marriage Survey
Moments ago the top officer in Australia’s federal statistics bureau revealed that the result of the non-binding postal survey on same-sex marriage is a landslide WIN for the YES side by 24 points.
Members of Parliament are expected to quickly introduce a marriage bill that could see legalization in place as soon as Christmas.
But…as always…the haters will try every dirty trick in the book to slow things down or dilute the win with so-called “religious liberty” discriminatory amendments.
TODAY, however, we CELEBRATE a great win for Australia and yet another advance in the global battle for LGBT equality.
Australian PM Vows “Marriage Before Christmas”
Moments after the survey result was announced, Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull appeared before national cameras and vowed his intention to get a same-sex marriage bill through Parliament by Christmas. Watch at link.
Earlier today, Turnbull denounced right wing plans to laden the bill with “religious liberty” amendments which would legalize anti-LGBT discrimination by wedding-related businesses. According to Turnbull, such amendments are “non-starters.”
Priya
you should move there
just think, no one would know
you could start again
and, maybe, if you keep your mouth shut, no one will notice you are a sickening pig
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mental problems
The "Hillary Sold Uranium to Russia" story was a lie 7 years ago and still is today:
- Russia did not buy uranium from the U.S., but bought an interest in a Canadian company that has uranium assets around the world including the U.S.
- The transaction was approved by nine separate government agencies and the government of Canada
- The State Department approval was handled by career professionals who have said that Hillary did not influence.
- The transaction does not allow Russia to get any of the U.S. uranium because export of uranium from the U.S. requires a separate license.
- Payments to the Clinton Foundation go to charity and do not personally benefit the Clintons. Despite decades of searching and millions of dollars spent on investigations Republicans have found NOTHING untoward about the Clintons or their Foundation.
- It has been proven that Trump used his "charity" foundation to pay personal bills and it is under investigation for fraud.
Wyatt/bad anonymous is the king of FAKE NEWS.
See how pathetic Wyatt/bad anonymous's "arguments" are?
He's reduced to suggesting that me deleting a comment is proof that he's right.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
"The "Hillary Sold Uranium to Russia" story was a lie 7 years ago and still is today"
Priya will believe any liberal crap on the internet
"Payments to the Clinton Foundation go to charity and do not personally benefit the Clintons."
see what I mean?
"He's reduced to suggesting that me deleting a comment is proof that he's right."
I was?
must be on some subliminal level
I thought it was just further, and unneeded, evidence of your mental disturbance
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How does the public really feel about the NFL's national anthem controversy? A new Harris poll is breaking it down.
Sixty percent of voters say they are not happy with how NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has dealt with the issue.
Should the players stand for the Star Spangled Banner? Absolutely, said 77 percent of voters.
Wow Wyatt, that was exceptionally pathetic even for you!
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Could Mike Pence be the biggest criminal of them all?
- Mike Pence's brother makes engines for the Russian military.
- The Pence family would make enormous profits by lifting Russian sanctions.
- The company's lobbying firm formerly worked with Mike Flynn & Paul Manafort.
- Paul Manafort was the person who convinced Trump to pick Pence as VP.
- Knew about Flynn and Turkey; LIED
- Knew Flynn talked to Russia; LIED
- Used a private email server and LOST classified ISIS documents
What is his connection with Paul Manafort and RUSSIAN MONEY????
Demand an Investigation of this LIAR!
Never Forget:
Mike Pence's war on women led to an HIV outbreak in Indiana that required federal intervention
In 2013 Governor Pence cut funding for Planned Parenthood by nearly half from 2005 levels. They were forced to close five clinics, none of which had ever provided abortions, but they did provide STD testing.
Scott County, Indiana, home to one of the closed clinics, became the hub of an enormous HIV outbreak.
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Over the last three decades, as American society has apparently accepted more open expression of different kinds of sexuality, it has also invented new ways and reasons to police sex. David Halperin, a historian and gender theorist at the University of Michigan, has called this “the war on sex.” In the introduction to a new essay collection with that title, which he co-edited, he describes some of the weapons in this war, including the sex-offender registry, which extends punishment indefinitely, and civil commitment, which amounts to preventive custody. In her contribution to the book, the lawyer and journalist Laura Mansnerus writes that about five thousand people are currently confined in twenty states, “involuntarily and indefinitely,” under so-called sexually violent predator acts, without a jail sentence or after having served jail time. “These men,” she writes, “are confined because of what they might do someday, exactly the kind of preventive detention that seems like an obvious constitutional problem.”
On college campuses, sex is also policed outside the normal mechanisms of law enforcement. Under President Barack Obama, the Justice Department directed campuses to adjudicate cases of sexual assault under the provisions of Title IX, which bans sex discrimination. In cases of sexual assaults, victims—both women and men—are often either reluctant or downright frightened to go to the police, and the courts are terrible at prosecuting sexual assault. Not only is the experience painful for the victim but the standard of proof for intimate violence tends to be de-facto higher than for other kinds of violence. On campus, the Justice Department ordered that a different standard be used: a preponderance of the evidence, rather than “beyond a reasonable doubt.” Long before these guidelines arrived, campuses had begun instituting rules of “affirmative consent.” Halperin reminds his readers that when Antioch College introduced this standard—which requires explicit verbal affirmation of the desire to take every sexual step—it was “widely ridiculed.” That was in 1991. Now, the principle of affirmative consent has not only been adopted by countless colleges but has become the law for colleges in New York and California.
The affirmative-consent and preponderance-of-the-evidence regimes shift the burden of proof from the accuser to the accused, eliminating the presumption of innocence. If the presumption of innocence is rooted in the idea that it is better to let ten guilty people go free than risk jailing one innocent person, then the policing of sex seems to assume that it’s better to have ten times less sex than to risk having a nonconsensual sexual experience. The problem is not just that this reduces the amount of sex people are likely to be having; it also serves to blur the boundaries between rape, nonviolent sexual coercion, and bad, fumbling, drunken sex. The effect is both to criminalize bad sex and trivialize rape.
The Trump Administration has rescinded the Obama-era interpretation of Title IX, but at the country’s more liberal colleges and universities, the culture of policing sex will almost certainly persist. The sexual culture wall that is going up may be the first big sign of how this culture is expanding. If the entertainment and media industries are becoming a hostile environment for violent, predatory, and rude men, that will certainly be a good thing. But the boundaries are already blurring. The perpetrators who have suffered consequences now range from Harvey Weinstein, who allegedly committed multiple assaults and deployed an army of agents to keep women silent, to Matt Taibbi, the journalist, who co-edited an aggressively misogynistic newspaper in Russia and co-wrote a fictionalized memoir which contained bragging about feats of sexual coercion. No woman has accused Taibbi of actual sexual coercion. In between lies Louis C.K., who had no physical contact with his victims. That is not to say that, in C.K.’s case, no assault took place—all available information indicates that his actions were sadistic and frightening. But the distinctions between rape and coercion are meaningful, in the way it is meaningful to distinguish between, say, murder and battery. Some of the names on the supposedly secret list of “shitty media men,” which everyone in the media world has seen, are of men who appear to be merely awkward, unskilled communicators, while others are alleged to have committed actual acts of violence and coercion.
A moral panic is always a reaction to something that has been there all along but has evaded attention—until a particular crime captures the public imagination. Sex panics in the past have begun with actual crimes but led to outsize penalties and, more importantly, to a generalized sense of danger. The object of fear in America’s recent sex panics is the sexual predator, a concept that took hold in the nineteen-nineties. The sexual predator is characterized by his qualities perhaps more than his actions—hence the need for preventive detention and sex-offender registries. The word “predator” is once again, unnervingly, becoming central to the conversation.
Of course, the balance of power favors men so much that it’s more likely that the guilty will get away with it than that the innocent will suffer. Still, we would do well to be aware of the risks to our perception of sex, and to this culture, as it grows ever more divided.
When Does a Watershed Become a Sex Panic?
By Masha Gessen
November 14, 2017
A moral panic is always a reaction to something that has been there all along but has evaded attention—until a particular crime captures the public imagination.Photograph by Rosalind O'Connor / NBC / Getty
Idols are falling so fast that it’s hard to keep track. The Times has produced a growing tally of twenty-three men who have lost jobs, deals, film roles, and more in the last five weeks as a result of sexual-assault or harassment accusations. Most of these men worked in the entertainment industry or the media. Many more names are on a widely circulated list of “shitty media men,” which has compiled anonymous accusations ranging from the shocking to the exceedingly trivial. Two women have gone public with allegations of rape by two prominent academics. (One died in 2007, and the other said the sex was consensual.) Politicians across the country are also facing repercussions from sexual behavior that apparently went unreported for years, although they do not seem to be falling as far or as fast as the men of media and entertainment. In fact, Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate and former judge who stands accused of having sexual relationships with teen-age girls, may still be headed for election. (Moore has fervently denied the allegations.)
Earlier this year, I had a chance to hear a prominent Democratic Party activist reëvaluate what had seemed like a pivotal point in the 2016 Presidential campaign: the day in October when an audio recording of Donald Trump bragging about grabbing women “by the pussy” surfaced. The Clinton campaign celebrated a premature victory, because surely Trump had rendered himself unelectable. The activist explained the problem with that assumption: to vote against Trump on the basis of the “Access Hollywood” tape, many women would have had to repudiate their husbands, brothers, uncles, and cousins—their entire lives. In other words, we should not have been surprised that some fifty-three per cent of white women voted for Trump; it had been naïve and foolhardy to expect them to defect. Roy Moore’s apparent staying power serves to affirm the hypothesis.
Perhaps the swift execution of entertainment and media careers can be seen as an attempt to build a wall of sorts—a clear division between people who felt that the “Access Hollywood” recording rendered Trump unfit for office and those who did not. It is troubling to have a chasm this wide between two cultures in one country—although it could be argued that the chasm has been there for a long time, and that the current streak of scandals has merely illuminated it. In any case, it is particularly troubling that the frenzied sequence of accusations and punishments is focussed on sex.
I am not trying to straddle the divide between cultures: I fall squarely on one side of the chasm. I have written “me too,” because I have been raped by a man (a stranger), coerced into sex by a man (a friend), and held hostage by a man’s (my boss’s) compulsion to talk about sex and take—and exhibit—pictures of sex. I am also queer, and I panic when I sniff sex panic...
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/when-does-a-watershed-become-a-sex-panic
A pastor in Alabama said he received a voice mail Tuesday from a man falsely claiming to be a reporter with The Washington Post and seeking women “willing to make damaging remarks” about Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore in exchange for money.
The call came days after The Post reported on allegations that Moore initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl nearly four decades ago, sparking calls by leading Republicans for him to abandon his campaign for the U.S. Senate in a special election to be held Dec. 12.
Pastor Al Moore of Creola, Ala., said he received the call on his cellphone a little after 7 a.m. Tuesday from a private number, which he did not answer.
The caller, claiming to be “Bernie Bernstein,” left a 27-second voice mail, which Moore played for local CBS affiliate WKRG.
“I’m a reporter for The Washington Post calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female between the ages of 54 to 57 years old, willing to make damaging remarks about candidate Roy Moore for a reward of between $5,000 and $7,000,” the caller said in the voice mail.
The caller said he would not be “fully investigating these claims” but would make a written report.
He said he could be reached by email at albernstein@washingtonpost.com.
Moore, the pastor, said he mentioned the call to a couple members of his church and quickly realized that it didn’t add up.
The caller first referred to himself as “Bernie” and then later gave his name as “Al.” There are no Washington Post reporters or editors named Bernie Bernstein or Al Bernstein. (Lenny Bernstein is a health reporter on the National desk, and Adam Bernstein is The Post’s obituary editor.)
Moore also sent an email to the address left in the voice mail, and it bounced back.
Moore’s church, the Fountain Of Faith Baptist Church, posted on Facebook Tuesday morning about a call from an “Al Bernstein at The Washington Post. Hmmmm.”
Martin Baron, The Post’s executive editor, said the caller’s reporting methods bear “no relationship to reality.”
“The Post has just learned that at least one person in Alabama has received a call from someone falsely claiming to be from The Washington Post,” Baron said in a statement. “The call’s description of our reporting methods bears no relationship to reality. We are shocked and appalled that anyone would stoop to this level to discredit real journalism.”..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/14/alabama-pastor-says-man-posing-as-washington-post-reporter-offered-reward-for-dirt-on-roy-moore/?tid=pm_local_pop&utm_term=.fb4e6a287f8e
let's play Jeopardy:
reason Ted Kennedy served as a Senator and ran for President decades after leaving his girlfriend (while he was married) to drown
what is he was a Democrat?
reason Anthony Weiner could run for mayor of NY after texting pictures of his thing to young girls across America?
what is he was a Democrat?
reason Harvey Weinstein has not been charged?
what is he was a Democrat?
reason Bill Clinton wasn't charged with rape
what is he was a Democrat?
reason Roy Moore went for years even though everyone knew what he did?
what is he was a Democrat?
"let's play Jeopardy:"
There you go, have fun playing with yourself.
I'll stick to teaching the facts.
"Fox News anchor Shepherd Smith debunked what his own network has called the Hillary Clinton uranium “scandal,” infuriating Fox viewers, some of whom suggested that he ought to go work for CNN or MSNBC.
Smith’s critique, which called President Trump’s accusations against Clinton “inaccurate,” was triggered by renewed calls from Republicans on Capitol Hill for a special counsel to investigate Clinton.
Fox News, along with Trump and his allies, have been suggesting for months a link between donations to the Clinton Foundation and the approval of a deal by the State Department and the Obama administration allowing a Russian company to purchase a Canada-based mining group with operations in the United States.
Trump called it “Watergate, modern-age.” Former White House adviser Sebastian Gorka, speaking on Fox News last month, said it was “equivalent to” the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg spying case of the 1950s, in which the couple was charged with providing U.S. atomic secrets to the Soviet Union, noting that “those people got the chair.”
Various fact-checkers, including The Washington Post’s, have already dismantled the underpinnings of these accusations. No one expected a similar debunking from Fox..."
"... But Smith, in his broadcast, made many of the same points as the fact-checkers. “Now, here’s the accusation,” he said.
Nine people involved in the deal made donations to the Clinton Foundation totaling more than $140 million. In exchange, Secretary of State [Hillary] Clinton approved the sale to the Russians, a quid-pro-quo. The accusation first made by Peter Schweizer, the senior editor-at-large of the website Breitbart in his 2015 book “Clinton Cash.” The next year, candidate Donald Trump cited the accusation as an example of Clinton corruption.
He then played a video of Trump’s version of the “scandal” in which he claimed:
Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20 percent of America’s uranium holdings to Russia. Well, nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.
Smith called the statement “inaccurate in a number of ways,” noting that “the Clinton State Department had no power to veto or approve that transaction.” Rather, it must be approved by an interagency committee of the government consisting of nine department heads, including the secretary of state.
Most of the Clinton Foundation donations in question, he pointed out, came from Frank Giustra, the founder of the uranium company in Canada. But Giustra, Smith noted, “says he sold his stake in the company back in 2007,” three years before the uranium/Russia deal and “a year and a half before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state.” He added:
. . . The accusation is predicated on the charge that Secretary Clinton approved the sale. She did not. A committee of nine evaluated the sale, the president approved the sale, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and others had to offer permits, and none of the uranium was exported for use by the U.S. to Russia.
Smith has deviated from the Fox and Trump line before.”...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/15/fox-news-shepherd-smith-debunks-his-networks-hillary-clinton-scandal-story-infuriates-viewers/
Trump's Attorney General Sessions again changes his account of what he knew a bout Trump Campaign's dealings with Russians
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/15/sheriffs-body-searches-of-900-georgia-students-leads-to-3-million-proposed-settlement/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/15/his-brother-died-mysteriously-when-they-were-toddlers-years-later-a-facebook-photo-changed-everything/
SYDNEY ― A nationwide survey on the legalization of same-sex marriage in Australia came back with sweeping support on Wednesday, ending a monthslong campaign for equality that has stoked widespread anxiety in the country’s LGBTQ community. The issue will now go to the Australian Parliament. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has promised an official vote to legalize marriage equality by the end of the year.
In the survey, 61.6 percent of Australians voted yes and 38.4 percent voted no. More than 12.7 million people responded to the voluntary postal survey, a nationwide response rate of nearly 80 percent.
“They voted yes to fairness. They voted yes to commitment. They voted yes to love,” Turnbull said at a press conference in Canberra following the vote. “It is up to us, here in the Parliament in Australia to get on with it ... This was an unprecedented exercise in democracy.”
Most members of the Australian parliament ― some 70 percent in both houses ― have said they will vote yes on a same-sex marriage vote were the results from the survey to come back with a “yes,” according to a survey from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
The results sparked an immediate outpouring of support within Australia and abroad...
...Turnbull on Wednesday reiterated his calls for a parliamentary vote before Christmas on same-sex marriage “to get on with the job the Australian people have asked us to do.”
Two draft bills, introduced by separate members of the right-leaning Liberal Party, to bring the issue before the government are currently circulating, both of which include some religious protections. But it’s unclear what the final marriage legislation will look like.
If passed, Australia will become the 26th country to legalize same-sex marriage.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/australia-same-sex-marriage-postal-vote_us_5a0b70a3e4b0bc648a0e95f4
Fake Robocalls in Alabama Pretends To Be Jewish Washington Post Reporter Offering Payment To Accuse Roy Moore Of Sexual Assault
“Hi, this is Bernie Bernstein, I’m a reporter for the Washington Post calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female between the ages of 54 to 57 years old willing to make damaging remarks about candidate Roy Moore for a reward of between $5000 and $7000 dollars.
“We will not be fully investigating these claims [Cause why would a newspaper not investigate a story?] however we will make a written report. I can be reached by email at albernstein@washingtonpost.com, thank you.” – From the fake robocall, delivered in a stereotypical Jewish/New York accent, sent out in Alabama today.
They're pulling out the standard GOP campaign tactics: deceit and bigotry.
Dishonest right wing Breitbart has reported on the call without questioning its authenticity. Because of course they would.
Next there will be robocalls from "Enrique Hernandez," speaking in a heavy Mexican accent on behalf of "Rapist Drug-Dealing Illegals for Doug Jones." (Moore's Democratic opponent)
Fox's Shepard Smith just took apart the Uranium One conspiracy theory in what amounts to a methodical annihilation of his own network's coverage of the story.
A Fox "News" legal analyst steps down from management at her law firm Tuesday after making comments on "Hannity" that the victims of sexual harrassment are "few and far between".
Mercedes Colwin will no longer serve as the managing partner of Gordon Rees Scully Mansukhani in New York.
Anon, do not post under the name of another commenter, or a name similar. We recognize that you are just trolling but some people would like to have a decent conversation and all you are doing is confusing the situation by stealing someone else's identity. We have respected your anonymity here.
JimK
No problem, Jim. If someone wants a decent conversation, I'm all in.
Did y'all hear the latest outrage?
The military paid for some guy to have surgery to make him look, sorta, like a girl.
And the psychiatric treatments to deal with the mental problems that naturally come with that?
We, the taxpayers, get the privilege of paying for that, too!
Oh, great.
Liberals say we can't afford school vouchers to give inner city kids a fighting chance at a decent life and we can't afford to lower the corporate rate to make us competitive globally.
But we can afford to give some pervert cosmetic surgery to fulfill his fantasies and a shrink to deal with the emotional consequences.
What a bunch of crap!
One more reason for Alabama to send Roy Moore to the Senate!
A North Korean state newspaper has issued a death sentence for U.S. President Donald Trump after he insulted Kim Jong-Un during his recent trip to Asia, according to the Guardian.
An editorial in the ruling party's newspaper Rodong Sinmun declared Trump a "criminal" and said their nation's people had sentenced him to death because of the unflattering way he talks about their country and their supreme leader.
"The worst crime for which he can never be pardoned is that he dared to malignantly hurt the dignity of the supreme leadership," the editorial read. "He should know that he is just a hideous criminal sentenced to death by the Korean people."
The scathing article was in response to comments Trump made during his recent visit to South Korea, where he insulted Kim Jong-Un, calling the dictator "short and fat" in a tweet.
During his address, Trump called North Korea, "a hell that no person deserves," and warned that "the weapons you are acquiring are not making you safer. They are putting your regime in grave danger. Every step you take down this dark path increases the peril you face."
"Do not underestimate us, and do not try us," the U.S. President added. "We will defend our common security, our shared prosperity, and our sacred liberty."
The editorial also took aim at the fact that Trump skipped a planned visit to the demilitarized border zone between North and South Korea due to inclement weather.
"It wasn’t the weather. He was just too scared to face the glaring eyes of our troops," the article said.
Wyatt, the problem with inner city schools is racists like you that don't want to fund them on a par with schools in rich white neighbourhoods. A lot of school funding comes from property taxes which are far higher in rich white neighbourhoods than in poor black neighbourhoods so white schools are far better funded than black schools.
If you were honest about wanting to do something about it, instead of trying to destroy public schools with vouchers(to schools who often won't accept poor black students anyway), you'd support a law that would equitably distribute property taxes between schools instead of letting the lion's share go to schools in rich white neighbourhoods instead of equal amounts going to schools in poor black neighbourhoods.
Rich White Racist Repuplicans won't allow that to happen because they like the status quo.
Racist republicans have chipped away at school integration so much that schools are now more segregated by colour than they were in the 70's
And the cost of surgeries for trans people in the military is such a trivially small percentage of the entire budget so as to be virtually non-existant (and the same is true regarding trans military costs compared to funding public schools). If I remember correctly the military spends ten times as much on boner pills for men as it does on all costs for transpeople in the military.
" If someone wants a decent conversation, I'm all in."
If someone who reads Vigilance wants a decent conversation, you are incapable of provided one.
As soon as facts prove you wrong, you go verbally postal.
The crap you post on line is, to use your own words "evidence of your mental disturbance."
Or better yet, and again, to use your own words "maybe, if you keep your mouth shut, no one will notice you are a sickening pig"
Your words are in no way "decent conversation."
Your words are evidence of your descent down to name-calling and personal insults, about as far from "decent conversation" as possible.
"The military paid for some guy to have surgery to make him look, sorta, like a girl."
For less than the cost of one of Trump's golfing weekends!
Thanks Good Anonymous.
To Wyatt/bad anonymous a person who isn't hurting anyone but wants to modify their body is "a pervert" but Roy Moore who tries to have sexual relationships with children who are less than half his age isn't.
Wyatt is messed up.
One of his excuses is that Moore got permission from the children's parents first. But that just makes the parents just as perverted as Roy Moore, treating their children like chattel they can give to a perverted adult and without letting the child choose for herself like a human being.
More Evidence that Corporate Tax Cuts Won’t Create New Investment
Trump’s chief economic adviser, Gary Cohn, took part in an event hosted by the Wall Street Journal that featured an audience full of CEOs, and when a Journal editor asked for a show of hands by those leaders who would invest in new capacity if their taxes were cut, very few hands went up. Cohn seemed shocked.
President Trump’s top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, looked out from the stage at a sea of CEOs and top executives in the audience Tuesday for the Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council meeting. As Cohn sat comfortably onstage, a Journal editor asked the crowd to raise their hands if their company plans to invest more if the tax reform bill passes.
Very few hands went up.
Cohn looked surprised. “Why aren’t the other hands up?” he said.
I can answer that. First, because corporate profits are already at record highs. Second, because credit is very cheap and readily available. If those businesses believed that investing in new factories or equipment that might create more jobs would result in higher profits for them, they would already be doing it. But they’re not. Indeed, while this poll was an informal one, formal surveys of CEOs find the same result.
This summer, Bank of America Merrill Lynch asked 300 companies what they would do if Congress passed a “tax holiday” that allowed them to bring back massive amounts of money being held overseas at a lower tax rate. 65% said they would pay down their debt. Second most popular option? Stock buyback. Neither of those things creates news jobs. Indeed, when George W. Bush did the same thing in 2004, about $300 billion in cash kept in overseas subsidiaries was brought back at a ridiculous 5.25% tax rate. 80% of it was used to buy back stock. Why? Because it makes the shares of CEOs, which are a huge part of their compensation package, much more valuable. So the rich people benefit but no one else does.
New Quinnipiac Poll:
Only 25% approve of the Republican tax plan.
Only 16% think the Republican plan will reduce their taxes.
61% say it will benefit the wealthy most; only 24% say it will help the middle class most
Republicans' ability to con the public is slipping.
The Republican tax plan will take away healthcare from 13 million Americans in order to give a $100,000 tax cut to the top tenth of one percent of highest income earners.
Us girls gotta stick together!
You have to be pretty perverted to want to take away health care from 13 million americans in order to give a $100,000 tax cut to the top tenth of one percent of highest income earners which they'll just squirrel away into savings and essentially remove from the economy.
"Us girls gotta stick together!".
Hear Hear!
Good anonymous posted "Or better yet, and again, to use your own words "maybe, if you keep your mouth shut, no one will notice you are a sickening pig"".
Once you wipe Wyatt's spittle flecks off your screen its obvious that rebutting his B.S. with the truth is really getting to him - his nearly out of control anger is plain for all to see.
"his nearly out of control anger is plain for all to see."
That's exactly right Priya Lynn.
NRSC poll: Moore trails Jones by 12
"Republican Roy Moore is trailing Democrat Doug Jones by 12 points in the Alabama special Senate election, according to a poll conducted by the National Republican Senatorial Committee after five women accused Moore of pursuing them as teenagers.
Jones led Moore 51 to 39 percent, according to the survey taken Sunday and Monday. The NRSC withdrew its support for Moore after the Washington Post published the first allegations against Moore on Thursday, and the group’s chairman, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) said Moore should be expelled from the Senate if he wins on Dec. 12.
The poll shows a dramatic turn against Moore in Alabama: In early October, a committee poll had him leading by 16 points, and a survey early this month had him up by 9 points. Moore’s favorability numbers also tanked, from 49 percent in early October to 35 percent in the NRSC’s latest poll."
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/15/roy-moore-doug-jones-poll-244937
"the problem with inner city schools is racists like you that don't want to fund them on a par with schools in rich white neighbourhoods"
we see that Priya begins our adventure in decent conversation by calling a commenter "racist"
DC inner city schools have the highest per student expenditure in the country
"If you were honest about wanting to do something about it, instead of trying to destroy public schools with vouchers"
what's wrong with vouchers, giving parents some power to hold schools accountable?
and vouchers are the only expenditure in history that the liberals claim will take funding away from something else
any other time, they're all gung ho on spending more money
it's because if the preference for governmental authority over citizens, rather than the other way around
and because teacher unions give funding to Dems
"you'd support a law that would equitably distribute property taxes between schools instead of letting the lion's share go to schools in rich white neighbourhoods instead of equal amounts going to schools in poor black neighbourhoods"
the money within any jurisdiction is already evenly spread
every county has its own poorer neighborhoods
"Rich White Racist Repuplicans won't allow that to happen because they like the status quo."
this is a lie, vouchers are not the status quo
public schools where politicale bureaucrats make decisions that affect kids are the status quo
"And the cost of surgeries for trans people in the military is such a trivially small"
the military has enough trouble finding men to serve without getting them in and turning them into girls
"a person who isn't hurting anyone but wants to modify their body is "a pervert" but Roy Moore who tries to have sexual relationships with children who are less than half his age isn't"
there is absolutely no evidence the two elderly women who claim he did this three decades ago are telling the truth
why are there no stories for the time since?
perverts don't usually retire
doesn't make sense
"One of his excuses is that Moore got permission from the children's parents first. But that just makes the parents just as perverted as Roy Moore, treating their children like chattel they can give to a perverted adult and without letting the child choose for herself like a human being."
see, you try to have a decent conversation with priya and all you get is lies
with a few incivil insults thrown in
no one is saying that the teens didn't choose for themselves and the two this comment pertains to did not allege that any sexual activity at all or, even, attempts at sexual activity took place
"Trump’s chief economic adviser, Gary Cohn, took part in an event hosted by the Wall Street Journal that featured an audience full of CEOs, and when a Journal editor asked for a show of hands by those leaders who would invest in new capacity if their taxes were cut, very few hands went up. Cohn seemed shocked."
first of all, investment is already taking place in response to Trump's reduction in regulations
taxes are regulations
further, the more significant growth will come from companies who will see the US as a desirable place to do business if their tax rates will be comparable to other places in the world
"Only 25% approve of the Republican tax plan.
Only 16% think the Republican plan will reduce their taxes.
61% say it will benefit the wealthy most; only 24% say it will help the middle class most"
there are few places left for Americans to get accurate information
"The Republican tax plan will take away healthcare from 13 million Americans"
the 13 million is the number estimated of people who won't get insurance if they aren't forced to by government mandate
we believe in self-determination here in America
"in order to give a $100,000 tax cut to the top tenth of one percent of highest income earners"
rich people will still pay for almost everything in America
more than half of Americans make no contribution at all
Trump is finding ways to get the deficit:
"The Justice Department on Wednesday warned 29 jurisdictions, including three states, they might have to pay back millions of dollars in federal public safety grants received last year because their local policies are suspected of violating federal immigration law."
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "the 13 million is the number estimated of people who won't get insurance if they aren't forced to by government mandate".
Wrong. Its the number of people who won't get insurance because the cost of the tax cut for the uber wealthy will require that much cutting of subsidies that allow people to by health care.
The sign ups for Obamacare are up 60% over last year - the public overwhelmingly supports Obamacare and overwhelmingly opposes Republicans plans to cut it to pay for tax cuts for the top tenth of one percent of the richest Americans - case closed.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Trump is finding ways to get [sic] the deficit].
You're willfully stating a falsehood (lying). You're well aware that trump's tax plan will result in a 1.5 trillion dollar increase in the deficit.
Of course lying is nothing new for Wyatt/bad anonymous - he's the one that says "there are many situations where its appropriate to lie".
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "there is absolutely no evidence the two elderly women who claim he did this three decades ago are telling the truth".
Its actually five women. And there are 30 people who have seperately corroborated at least part of their stories.
So, Yeah..., you're a liar.
Not to mention the cops and several others who say Roy Moore was banned from a mall for seeking sex with teenagers when he was in his thirties.
Even Mitch Mcconnell and several other Republicans say they believe Moore's accuses. Even Sean Hannity is backing off of his support for Moore.
But not Wyatt. He's sticking with the probable pedophile until the bitter end.
And Wyatt calls harmless people seeking to modify their bodies "perverts" - what a hypocrite!
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "DC inner city schools have the highest per student expenditure in the country".
A sad and desperate lie. The per student expenditures in inner city schools is a tiny fraction of what it is in rich white neighbourhoods.
The truth is far less is spent on black students compared to white students.
Last month, another Center for American progress report determined schools that enroll 90 percent or more non-white students spend $733 less per pupil per year than schools that enroll 90 percent or more white students. These “racially isolated” schools make up one-third of the country’s schools. Nationwide, schools spend $334 more on every white student than on every non-white student.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "we see that Priya begins our adventure in decent conversation by calling a commenter "racist"".
What else can you call someone who so blatently lies to maintain the status quo of black students being shortchanged in favour of white students? Its not indecent conversation when its the truth.
Stop lying Wyatt!
"Its the number of people who won't get insurance because the cost of the tax cut for the uber wealthy will require that much cutting of subsidies that allow people to by health care."
No, you're wrong. The tax bill's only impact on Obamacare is to eliminate the mandate.
cool anonymous dude said "Trump is finding ways to cut the deficit."
Priya, incivilly says: "You're willfully stating a falsehood (lying). You're well aware that trump's tax plan will result in a 1.5 trillion dollar increase in the deficit."
Assuming you're not lying, go back and read. I was talking about the reduction in the deficit that will result from getting money back from cities that broke the law.
cool anonymous dude said "there is absolutely no evidence the two elderly women who claim he did this three decades ago are telling the truth".
Priya: "Its actually five women. And there are 30 people who have seperately corroborated at least part of their stories."
There are only two alleging sexual misconduct. Corroboration of "at least part of their stories" is the same word game played with the fictitious Russian dossier. Of the two relevant elderly women, the "corroboration" is usually a parent of friend that kind of remembers them talking about it.
"He's sticking with the probable pedophile until the bitter end."
Even now, in the world that Weinstein and Clinton have done so much to screw up, America still places the burden of proof on the accuser.
Hopefully, this is not all leading to Robespierre and the French revolution.
cool anon said "DC inner city schools have the highest per student expenditure in the country".
Priya: "A sad and desperate lie. The per student expenditures in inner city schools is a tiny fraction of what it is in rich white neighbourhoods."
Priya is lying here, DC inner city schools have the highest per student expenditure in the country. Everyone locally knows that.
"What else can you call someone who so blatently lies? Its not indecent conversation when its the truth."
I just pointed out several of your lies above. No one has to trust me, it's documented above.
I would also hold that you are latently racist for assuming that blacks couldn't get their kids a decent if could make their own decisions when they received vouchers and, instead, need the government to make decisions for them. They are equal members of society not the pets of liberals.
"there is absolutely no evidence the two elderly women who claim he did this three decades ago are telling the truth"
Bulloney!
The Washington Post "account is based on interviews with more than 30 people who said they knew Moore between 1977 and 1982, when he served as an assistant district attorney for Etowah County in northern Alabama, where he grew up."
Additional facts reported by the Washington Post include: "Two of Corfman’s childhood friends say she told them at the time that she was seeing an older man, and one says Corfman identified the man as Moore. Wells says her daughter told her about the encounter more than a decade later, as Moore was becoming more prominent as a local judge."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html
Testimony is evidence and USA Today reports Beverly Young "Nelson would be willing to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee about the incident involving Moore. "
USNews and World Report adds, "Nelson was willing to answer questions under oath."
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-11-13/beverly-young-nelson-accuses-roy-moore-of-sexual-assault-when-she-was-16
USA Today also reports Roy Moore said “I don’t remember dating any girl without the permission of her mother.”
In other words, he knowingly dated underage girls.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/13/roy-moore-threatens-lawsuit-over-sex-abuse-story-threatens-his-u-s-senate-campaign/857598001/
It will be interesting to hear Roy Moore's version of these events when he's testifying about them under oath in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee instead of just for the TV cameras.
Wyatt, you have no credibility.
You've got a long history of lying on this board and you've stated "there are many situations where its appropriate to lie".
You've failed to back up your claims with a reputable source because you're lying.
And I've proved you are lying by posting a link to the evidence that proves you're lying.
American schools spend far more on white students than they do on black students - that is indisputable although you can pathetically deny reality all you want.
You seek to maintain the status quo where schools in rich white neighbourhoods receive far more funding per student than schools in poor black neighbourhoods. And you'll lie left and right to try to enforce that. There's no other way to accurately describe what you're doing other than racism.
You are a racist. That is as clear as night and day.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Even now, in the world that Weinstein and Clinton have done so much to screw up, America still places the burden of proof on the accuser.Hopefully, this is not all leading to Robespierre and the French revolution.".
Your hypocrisy is so blatant. You go on and on about how Moore has denied wrongdoing so you support him, but Weinstein has also denied wrongdoing but you don't give him the same support you do Moore. No, you've condemned Weisnstein as guilty but not Moore even though they both deny wrondoing for the same behavior.
You have a double standard - if a liberal is accused you automatically consider him guilty. If a Republican is accused you automatically consider him innocent. You don't judge right and wrong on the basis of the action, you judge right and wrong on the basis of who the person is. If its a Republican you'll consider them innocent, if its a Democrat you'll consider them guilty even when the behavior is the same.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Of the two relevant elderly women..."(its five)
Note how he pathetically tries to discredit these women by calling them "elderly" as though they are too old for their minds to be working right when in fact thy are around two decades younger than Roy Moore on average. They are "elderly"
(so you should not believe them) but somehow the two decade older Roy Moore is not elderly and you should put more weight behind his claims than the women on that basis.
FIVE women have accused Roy Moore. You can pretend 3 of them don't matter because it wasn't a criminal act with them but it was still grossly immoral and inappropriate. You'd condemn a 32 year old gay man non-stop for having sex with a 16 year old but because Moore is a heterosexual Republican that's no problem for you.
You calling me "a sickening pig" is truly psychological projection of who you are onto innocent me.
As a liberal I accepted right away that the evidence shows both Wienstein and Moore are guilty of sexual misconduct.
My morality isn't subjective like Wyatt/bad anonymous's. I determine whats right and wrong based on the behavior, not on who does the behavior.
You won't find liberals defending sexual predators just because they're liberal (that's a conservative thing).
We place the highest value on fairness and justice for all, our loyalty to our tribe is secondary.
For Wyatt/bad anonymous and conservatives loyalty to their tribe comes first regardless if their tribe member is evil or not, fairness and justice for all are secondary concerns for them.
That's why they support the admitted sexual predator Trump and we don't support Weinstein.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/two-more-women-describe-unwanted-overtures-by-roy-moore-at-alabama-mall/2017/11/15/2a1da432-ca24-11e7-b0cf-7689a9f2d84e_story.html
Two more women have come forward and said Roy Moore behaved inappropriately with them
One who was 28 years old at the time says Moore sexually assaulted her when he was married. Another says she was 17 and Moore in his thirties when he asked her to go out with him.
Thorp said Moore asked her if she'd go out with him sometime. "I just kind of said, 'Do you know how old I am?'" she recalled. "And he said, 'Yeah. I go out with girls your age all the time.'" Thorp said she turned him down and told him she had a boyfriend.
So, yeah, when Wyatt/bad anonymous tries to excuse Moore's behavior by saying "it was a different time", that's bullshit, even then most people thought he was a pervert.
This brings the total of Moores accusers to seven.
Wyatt/bad anonymous had no problem believing Harvey Wienstein's accusers (because he's a liberal) but is sticking with the probable pedophile until the bitter end because he's a Republican.
Wyatt's a disgusting hypocrite.
"You won't find liberals defending sexual predators just because they're liberal"
actually, liberals have been doing that for 25 years
but that's now changing
now, that it's clear that Hillary will never be President, he's politically expendable:
Democrats have been foiled time and again from claiming the moral high ground on sexual misconduct thanks in large part to their decision in the 1990s to ignore, excuse and rebut the well-documented sexual transgressions of Bill Clinton.
After 25 years, however, some liberals finally are asking whether it’s time to deal with their Bubba problem.
No sooner had the Moore scandal erupted last week than multiple liberal media figures declared it was time to hold Mr. Clinton accountable, a dramatic about-face.
“That belatedness has become the subject of ridicule and scorn among some conservatives, who note that Bill Clinton was only finally sent under the bus after he became politically expendable,” said Townhall.com editor Guy Benson.
The first sign that Mr. Clinton’s days as a Democratic icon may be numbered came in a tweet Friday from MSNBC host Chris Hayes.
“As gross and cynical and hypocritical as the right’s ‘what about Bill Clinton‘ stuff is, it’s also true that Democrats and the center left are overdue for a real reckoning with the allegations against him,” Mr. Hayes said.
After Mr. Hayes’ commentary came the deluge. New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg declared in a Tuesday op-ed that “I Believe Juanita,” referring to Arkansas business owner Juanita Broaddrick, whose 1989 accusation that Mr. Clinton raped her in 1978 has long been dismissed by Democrats.
The same day, The Atlantic magazine ran an op-ed by contributing editor Caitlin Flanagan headlined, “Bill Clinton: A Reckoning,” which recalled how Mr. Clinton was rescued in the 1990s by “machine feminism” in a low point for the women’s movement.
She cited feminist icon Gloria Steinem’s 1998 op-ed in The New York Times insisting that Mr. Clinton was guilty not of sexual harassment but rather of having made a “pass” at Kathleen Willey after she said he groped and rubbed his crotch against her in the Oval Office.
In doing so, Ms. Steinem “slut-shamed, victim-blamed, and age-shamed,” said Ms. Flanagan, thus establishing “contemporary feminism as a weaponized auxiliary of the Democratic Party.”
Ms. Steinem wasn’t alone. Newsweek’s Nina Burleigh was famously quoted in 1998 saying that she would be “happy to give him a blow job just to thank him for keeping abortion legal.”
“If Harvey Weinstein and Mark Halperin and Louis C.K. and all the rest can be held accountable, so can our former president and so can his party, which so many Americans so desperately need to rise again,” said Ms. Flanagan.
Columnist Nicole Hemmer said Tuesday that the “most pressing issue for Democrats is Bill Clinton” if they are to rebound in 2018 and 2020. She urged them to “confront their mistakes and misdeeds in the realm of sexual harassment.”
“In practical terms, that means not having Bill Clinton speak at the 2020 convention, and keeping him off the campaign trail,” Ms. Hemmer said in U.S. News & World Report.
Another liberal media figure, Vox.com’s Matthew Yglesias, took it a step further Wednesday with an article declaring, “Bill Clinton should have resigned.”
The political landscape has shifted.
After years of supporting the Clintons, Democrats no longer have to worry about keeping Mr. Clinton in the White House or protecting the feminist image of Hillary Clinton, first during her Senate career and then her 2008 and 2016 presidential runs.
With Mrs. Clinton’s political career presumably over, the costs of shielding Mr. Clinton from criticism apparently outweigh the benefits.
“Let’s just say that discarding the Clintons when they’re no longer politically useful to retroactively grab the higher moral ground isn’t exactly an act of heroism,” said Federalist Senior Editor David Harsanyi. “This isn’t a reckoning as much as it is a face-saving.”
Skeptics also asked whether Mr. Clinton would be coming under fire if his wife had won the White House.
“Don’t believe this moralize claptrap for a second,” RedState said Wednesday in a post. “The sole purpose of this newfound belief in the dignity of women is due to the fact that Roy Moore may lose a Senate seat. The moment a Democrat politician comes under scrutiny we’ll be back to the Gloria Steinem defense of Bill Clinton on the allegations by Kathleen Willey.”
Others have cast suspicion on the seemingly coordinated timing of the media backlash against Mr. Clinton.
Conservative commentator Stephen L. Miller said Tuesday in a tweet that “just like firefighters rushing toward a burning building, we rush toward a story that is 25 years old and is now politically expedient.”
Added conservative tweeter Sister Toldjah: “And all of them mysteriously figure it out at the same time and write similar pieces within days of each other.”
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html
this is a site that shows public school spending per student by state
since DC is considered a state, this makes a great way to compare spending per black student v spending per white student
DC is majority black, the states are majority white
second highest spending per student is in DC
case closed
so, when Priya starts this rant, you know that Priya knows that Priya has been caught in a lie and is trying to divert it from everyone's attention:
"you have no credibility.
"You've got a long history of lying on this board and you've stated "there are many situations where its appropriate to lie".
You've failed to back up your claims with a reputable source because you're lying.
And I've proved you are lying by posting a link to the evidence that proves you're lying.
American schools spend far more on white students than they do on black students - that is indisputable although you can pathetically deny reality all you want.
You seek to maintain the status quo where schools in rich white neighbourhoods receive far more funding per student than schools in poor black neighbourhoods. And you'll lie left and right to try to enforce that. There's no other way to accurately describe what you're doing other than racism.
You are a racist. That is as clear as night and day."
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