Tens of thousands of Boy Scouts booed former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as well as the "fake media," and cheered the repeal of the US healthcare system yesterday in a huge rally for Our Leader.
On my honor, I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.
Note that the Boy Scout Oath has traditionally been considered to have three promises. Those three promises are delineated by the semicolons in the Oath, which divide it into three clauses. The three promises of the Scout Oath are, therefore:
Duty to God and country, Duty to other people, and Duty to self
DUTY TO GOD AND COUNTRY: Your family and religious leaders teach you to know and serve God. By following these teachings, you do your duty to God.
Men and women of the past worked to make America great, and many gave their lives for their country. By being a good family member and a good citizen, by working for your country's good and obeying its laws, you do your duty to your country. Obeying the Scout Law means living by its 12 points.
DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE: Many people need help. A cheery smile and a helping hand make life easier for others. By doing a Good Turn daily and helping when you're needed, you prove yourself a Scout and do your part to make this a better world.
DUTY TO SELF: Keeping yourself physically strong means taking care of your body. Eat the right foods and build your strength. Staying mentally awake means learn all you can, be curious, and ask questions. Being morally straight means to live your life with honesty, to be clean in your speech and actions, and to be a person of strong character.
As one of America’s largest youth-serving organizations, the Boy Scouts of America works to bring the benefits of our programs to as many children, families and communities as possible.
While we offer a number of programs that serve all youth, Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting are specifically designed to meet the needs of boys. For more than 100 years, the Boy Scouts of America, along with schools, youth sports and other youth organizations, relied on biological sex – such as on an individual’s birth certificate – to determine eligibility for our single-gender programs. However, that approach is no longer sufficient as communities and state laws are interpreting gender identity differently, and these laws vary from state to state.
As a result, the Boy Scouts of America accepts and registers boys in the Cub and Boy Scout programs based on the gender identity indicated on the application.
The Boy Scouts of America is committed to identifying program options that will help us truly serve the whole family, and this is an area that we will continue to thoughtfully evaluate to bring the benefits of Scouting to the greatest number of youth possible – all while remaining true to our core values, outlined in the Scout Oath and Law.
Yes that all sounds great in print, very lofty and respectable. In reality, there were thirty to forty thousand of them, many wearing their uniforms, booing our former President, booing our free press. The BSA can wrap it all up in hifallutin moralistic language but it has become apparent they are just .... Trump Youth, rallying for Hair Furor.
"Yes that all sounds great in print, very lofty and respectable."
yes, it does
which is more than you can say for the new Dem Party slogan
"In reality, there were thirty to forty thousand of them, many wearing their uniforms, booing our former President,"
oh dear, you don't think the "innocent as a dove Barack Obama" would ever criticize his predecessor, do you?
of course not!
that would be fascist!!
hey wait a minute, here...
Sir Barry did criticize his predecessor
as a matter of fact, he spent 8 years blaming George Bush for every problem America ever had
"booing our free press"
you mean like when TTF boos Fox News
oh that's right, "freedom of the press" to TTF means objective press can be criticized if they don't support the liberal agenda but that bias in favor of the liberal agenda is beyond criticism
no one booed the freedom of the press
freedom of the press means the press is subject to criticism by the public
"The BSA can wrap it all up in hifallutin moralistic language but it has become apparent they are just .... Trump Youth, rallying for Hair Furor."
amazing
somehow you don't understand that the over-regulation, the health insurance mandate, the excessive taxation, and the social engineering of the Obama administration are the most fascist scare we've had in our history
I don’t blame the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) for inviting President Trump to speak at the National Scout Jamboree. But I would blame the BSA’s leaders if they ever invited him back.
I love the Boy Scouts. As a scrawny city boy, I worked my way toward Eagle Scout, honing my mind, body and conscience. If I had ever been forced to sit through a BSA-sponsored political rally themed around partisanship and egotism, I would have rethought my membership and, perhaps, never learned the fine lessons the organization imparts.
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Worst of all, the president twisted the meaning of the scout law. “As the scout law says, a scout is trustworthy, loyal — we could use some more loyalty, I will tell you that,” he said in an apparent reference to Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Trump has recently demeaned Sessions, one of his oldest allies, because the attorney general recused himself from the Russia investigation, in accordance with Justice Department ethics guidelines. Loyalty for Trump is personal and flows in one direction — he expects it but does not give it. The loyalty that the scouts — and, for that matter, the Justice Department — stand for belongs not to a single man but to the country and its democratic system.
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As Trump spoke Tuesday night, former scouts on Twitter angrily invoked the complete scout law: A scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. Trump neither exhibits nor extols any of these traits. He dwells on perceived slights and humiliates those who dealt them; recall when Trump forced Mitt Romney, a good, public-spirited man (and former scout), to publicly kowtow to him, just before rejecting him for any position in his administration. He is a well-documented serial liar who neglects his solemn responsibilities; Republican lawmakers have been perplexed at how little he understands health-care policy, even though he may soon sign a bill that could mean life or death for millions. Also, remember when Trump encouraged his crowds to beat protesters? And remember when he was caught on tape glorifying sexual assault?
There are three types of scouts. There are those who participate for a good reason — be that a love of the outdoors, an ambition to develop skills not taught in school, an interest in leadership or a desire for friends of skill and substance. There are those who participate because their parents force them to. And there are some bullies who abuse the organization’s mission of self-improvement, using its organized competitions and outdoor activities to show that they are better than other boys. The qualities that distinguish the best scouts are humility and self-sacrifice, values that the organization claims to prize.
Trump’s lesson for 30,000 young men was that the bullies are right and that humility and self-sacrifice are for suckers. Exulting in his election victory, attacking his political opponents and railing on about killing Obamacare, the president celebrated winning — and, specifically, his winning — above all else. His boastful speech did not model public-spiritedness; it showcased the immodesty and one-upmanship that the organization expects its boys to grow out of. Instead of addressing the crowd, the president could have learned something from its finer members, decades his junior.
“We’ll be back,” Trump told the crowd. I hope not.
while I'd agree Donald Trump is no boy scout, the liberal kooks are way off base, as usual
Trump didn't say anything new
liberals are using the scouts' uniforms as a suggestion they resemble Nazi youth organizations
they are defaming the scouts, an organization with deep value to many Americans, because they dare to not worship the Dear Leader, Obama
Americans need to boycott irresponsible and offensive media outlets until they go out of business
Obama, btw, is unpopular with scouts because he refused to speak to their jamboree, as many Presidents have, because he was trying to bully them into accepting homosexuals as members
The Boy Scouts have revealed themselves to be another un-American association. In their uniforms -- which do not make them Nazis, by the way -- they booed the past President of the United States and freedom of the press. They cheered that people's health insurance will be taken away from them and booed the former Secretary of State. It's fine, now we realize they are just another arm of the alt-right, it isn't like they're the only ones. We just didn't tknow until now.
No actually there are a lot of decent people in this country. Trump's core will probably come down to around thirty percent. The rest of us live our lives and mind our own business, and don't get swept up in the hate. Kinda disappointed to see that the Boy Scouts, who talk such a good game, are part of that.
Fascinating. As the Post reports, the Boy Scouts organization is refusing to apologize for or explain why they had this enthusiastic rally of support for Trump.
Somehow without any publicity, the BSA became the alt-right's organization for indoctrination of youth.
"No actually there are a lot of decent people in this country"
yes, there are
that's why the sleazy, corrupt Hillary is not President
"Trump's core will probably come down to around thirty percent"
actually, if you mean enthusiastic Trump supporters, it's much less than that
but, unless Dems, or a new party split from the current GOP, can address the economic concerns of blue collar union workers, not condescend to the deplorables who don't live on the coasts, and agree to appoint judges who support the Constitution, he will remain the lesser evil chosen by the voters
"The rest of us live our lives and mind our own business,"
oh sure, except for telling us what health insurance we have to buy and where we have to send half our earnings for taxes so liberals can spend it on their agenda and what services we are required to perform to support "marriages" we consider immoral and that we have to pay for someone else's birth control and every other freaking regulation under the sun
other than that, you're minding your own business
"and don't get swept up in the hate"
yes, Trump says Obama was a problem, that's hate
Obama spends eight years attacking and blaming Bush for every problem we ever had, that's the hopey-changey thing
"Kinda disappointed to see that the Boy Scouts, who talk such a good game, are part of that"
please
they've been on your list because they resisted the gay agenda
unlike past Presidents, Obama boycotted their jamboree to bully them into making new gay badges
"Fascinating. As the Post reports, the Boy Scouts organization is refusing to apologize for or explain why they had this enthusiastic rally of support for Trump"
they won't apologize for the expression of free speech?
maybe they should be sent to re-education camp
"Somehow without any publicity, the BSA became the alt-right's organization for indoctrination of youth.
This is how it happens."
what a jackass
let us know when the boy scouts start beating up Obama supporters
making the boy scouts political was the work of our most radical President, comrade Barry Obama
good news:
"President Trump on Wednesday said he would ban transgender people from any military service.
Trump said he had made the decision after consulting with "my generals and military experts."
"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow...Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump tweeted.
"Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming...victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgenders in the military would entail. Thank you"
The National Security Agency and FBI violated specific civil liberty protections during the Obama administration by improperly searching and disseminating raw intelligence on Americans or failing to promptly delete unauthorized intercepts, according to newly declassified memos that provide some of the richest detail to date on the spy agencies’ ability to obey their own rules.
" the @boyscouts are now in a position of having to disavow statements made by the president" Too late. They booed the previous President of the United States enthusiastically, booed the professional media who monitor and report on the government, booed the former Secretary of State, cheered the hoped-for passage of a law to take away Americans' health insurance.
They are not going to "disavow" anything. This is who they are, as proven by the cheering of 30,000-40,000 uniformed scouts.
Trump bans transgender people from serving in military.
This Trump: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/742771576039460864
"Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs. 10:31 AM - 14 Jun 2016"
People who called Trump the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever" were easily conned by the liar in chief.
"Trump the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever""
yes, he is
transgenders have mental issues
it's in their best interest not to be in the military
Trump should be congratulated for sticking to this basic point
meanwhile, more freedom of speech, far from Washington
"YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio — This town was on fire.
By 1 in the afternoon on Tuesday, every main thoroughfare downtown was filled with happy people heading toward the Covelli Centre. Folks dressed in red, white and blue crisscrossed the main grids as vendors sold “Make America Great Again” ball caps, American flags and bottles of water.
Thousands had filled the gravel parking lot to wait until the doors opened at 4, license plates revealing they had traveled from as far as Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania and West Virginia to see the president speak directly to them in this Rust Belt city.
Music played on almost every corner as Donald Skowron, a retired Youngstown police officer, drove his green pickup truck up and down Champion Street — in the back, a 6-by-8-foot homemade wooden Trump-Pence sign straddling the bed of the truck, with two large Trump flags flowing from the top.
“I am very happy with the president’s performance so far,” said Skowron. “He has set the exact tone I was looking for, although I’ll be honest, I wish he didn’t tweet all of the time, but that is hardly anything to complain.”
Skowron said he is encouraged by reading about Trump’s constant meetings with industry leaders as well as union and trade members in trying to understand how to create jobs: “We have a president invested in trying to navigate between the people who create jobs and the men and women doing the jobs and how repealing regulations help both.”
Six months after Donald J. Trump was inaugurated as the 45th president of the United States, he received a hero’s welcome in this town. The festive scene made a counter-visual to the daily nonstop press reports form the fake media about investigations into members of his inner circle, Russian interference in last year’s election and the debate over ObamaCare.
On Monday, police said the advance ticket request of over 20,000 had exceeded the 6,000-seat capacity of the center, prompting the event coordinators to put a large screen outside the center for the overflow crowd."
On July 26, 1948, President Harry S. Truman signed this executive order establishing the President's Committee on Equality of Treatment and Opportunity in the Armed Services, committing the government to integrating the segregated military.
GERMANTOWN, MD (WUSA9) - A man has been convicted in connection to the murder of a transgender Montgomery County resident in 2015.
A jury found Rico LeBlond, of Germantown, guilty of first degree murder in the death of Zella Ziona. Ziona, who was originally known as Deandre Smith, identified as a woman at the time of her death.
Montgomery County State's Attorney John McCarthy said LeBlond shot Ziona to death in Montgomery Village after the two had gotten into a fight the day before...
"According to McCarthy, both LeBlond and Ziona had known each other for years prior to her murder. At the time of Ziona's death, various reports claimed LeBlond had shot her because he became embarrassed when their friendship was made known to the public. However, McCarthy told reporters Tuesday afternoon there was not enough information gathered during the investigation to substantiate any claim that a hate crime had been committed in the case."
Somehow, "embarrassment" doesn't seem like a sufficient excuse for murder.
No, I had not heard of "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll."
The circumstances of that song don't seem to apply to this situation, unless LeBlond only gets 6 months for the murder, but he won't be sentenced until October.
"glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional"
I know hate crime laws are constitutional, that's why they have been around so long. Republicans whine about them all the time and come up with specious "reasons" to claim they are unconstitutional, but so far, people like judges, who actually know something about the law and the constitution, have seen fit to leave them in place.
"this ain't the time for your tears"
You have made it pretty clear here that you don't give a damn about the lives of LGBT people, but I very well could have known this young lady personally. So far, none of my friends have been murdered. Some have had guns pointed at them and another has been chased by a truck. It is discouraging how easily casual callousness can escalate to physical harm.
"btw, "identifying as a woman" doesn't make anyone a her"
She was killed because she was living her life as a woman. I know you had to get that infantile little dig in there. and it is telling that even in her death you cannot give her the dignity of her chosen pronoun.
I am at a lost for words at the absence of compassion you have for fellow human beings.
By the way, my name is spelled:
Cynthia
If 7 letters are too much for you, you can always use "Cyn."
Wyatt/bad anonymous said ""Trump the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever""yes, he is transgenders have mental issues it's in their best interest not to be in the military".
No surprise that Wyatt/bad anonymous is obviously lying again. Research shows transgender people do not have any "mental issues" related to being transgender. Any "mental issues" are solely due to discrimination promoted by bigots like Wyatt/bad anonymous. If a transgender person wants to serve in the military there is no valid reason to prevent them from doing so.
Wyatt/bad anonymous simultaneously praises Trump's anti-LGBT behavior and claims Trump is the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever" - proof he is just a troll.
Trump claimed on the campaign trail he would "fight for LGBT people", "be the best friend of LGBT people" and that he would "show that bigly" but of course he wasn't fooling anyone, we all knew he was a bigot who would be thrilled to throw LGBT people under the bus to symbolically fellate the religious right - which of course is just what he's repeatedly done since coming into power.
Trump tried to claim it wasn't his decision, that it was "entirely" a military decision but of course no one in the upper military leadership expressed this position, in fact they were all happily implementing the integration of transgender people in the military and saying it was "not an issue". Trump also absurdly said it was due to the "tremendous medical cost of transgender health care" but of course in reality the cost amounts to less than 1/1000 of a percent of the military budget and the military spends three times as much on erectile dysfunction as it does on transgender health care.
So, of course no one takes the troll Wyatt/bad anonymous seriously when he childishly and simultaneously declares trump to be "the most pro-lgbt presidential candidate in history" and praises his never ending string of attacks on the LGBT community.
Trump has re-instated "Don't ask, Don't tell" for transgender people and there was a great deal of research that showed that policy harmed the military, harmed readiness, and harmed unit cohesion. That's not surprising when you think about it - when you force people to live a lie then that makes it harder for them to do their job and if you spend a lot of money training them and then fire them (arabic linguists, fighter pilots, and so on) you're wasting money and that hurts readiness too.
So Trump is re-instituing a policy that all the research, including the military's own research, found harms the military.
On Monday, July 24th, President Donald Trump will become the eighth President of the United States to visit a national jamboree. To prepare for the excitement of a presidential visit, a few changes have been made to Monday’s schedule. In addition, specific procedures will be in place to allow for a secure, safe, and exciting environment during the president’s visit.
What are the changes? JamboLink has you covered! This is your source for all of the information needed to plan an amazing day on Monday! Let’s dive in…
UPDATES SINCE SUNDAY -Everyone is encouraged to consume water during the mobilization. Fill up your water bottle before you leave your subcamp. Hydration stations will be located along the mobilization routes to refill. All allowable water bottles will have to be emptied out prior to going through the security checkpoints. Hydration stations will be available within the stadium. -As a unit leader or staff member, you can help make the president’s visit a success by ensuring that any reactions to the president’s address are, as we state in our Scout Law, friendly, courteous, and kind. This includes understanding that chants of certain phrases heard during the campaign (e.g. “build the wall,” “lock her up”) are considered divisive by many members of our audience, and may cause unnecessary friction between individuals and units. Please help us ensure that all Scouts can enjoy this historical address by making sure that your troop members are respectful not only of the president, but of the wide variety of viewpoints held by Scouts and Scouters in the audience tonight. -No flashlights or headlamps are allowed in the stadium -Apply sunscreen before you leave your basecamp. -Sunscreen can be brought with you but it must be in a small container (Think TSA 3oz or less) -No keys, knives, or other sharp objects -Small wallets are allowed, but larger wallets, and purses are not. -The Dam between Basecamp Charlie and Gateway is one way going towards Boulder Cove starting at Noon -Field Uniforms (“Class A”) are not required. Encourage your Scouts to wear an activity uniform (“Class B”). -Portable/external batteries are not allowed.
This is what we call CYA. Sending out a couple of sentences saying "Now you boys enjoy yourselves and be good" doesn't undo the mission of the organization to turn these young Americans into Trump Youth.
You will notice that BSA has not apologized or even shown any concern about their organization's huge rally of 30,000 to 40,000 Boy Scouts against American principles of patriotism and respect.
Transgender people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want, Donald Trump said Thursday.
"Oh, I had a feeling that question was going to come up, I will tell you. North Carolina did something that was very strong. And they're paying a big price. There's a lot of problems," the Republican presidential candidate said during a town hall event on NBC's "Today."
Referring to comments from an unnamed commentator who on Wednesday said North Carolina should "leave it the way it is right now," Trump said he agreed.
"Leave it the way it is. North Carolina, what they're going through with all the business that's leaving, all of the strife -- and this is on both sides. Leave it the way it is," he said, referring to companies that have canceled plans to move or expand businesses in the state as a result of the law, which bans transgender individuals from using a bathroom that does not match their gender at birth.
"There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go. They use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate," Trump said. "There has been so little trouble. And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic -- I mean, the economic punishment that they're taking."
Matt Lauer then asked whether Trump has any transgender people working for his company.
"I really don't know. I probably do. I really don't know," Trump said, answering that he would allow, say, transgender celebrity Caitlyn Jenner to use whatever bathroom she wanted at Trump Tower.
He added, "You know, there's a big move to create new bathrooms. Problem with that is for transgender, that would be—first of all, I think that would be discriminatory in a certain way. That would be unbelievably expensive for businesses in the country. Leave it the way it is."
"...Considering the prevalence of transgender servicemembers among the active duty military and the typical health-care costs for gender-transition-related medical treatment, the Rand study estimated that these treatments would cost the military between $2.4 million and $8.4 million annually.
The study didn't include estimates of these costs for reservists, because of their “highly limited military health care eligibility.” It also didn't include estimates for retirees or military family members, because many of those individuals may also have “limited eligibility” for care via military treatment facilities.
“The implication is that even in the most extreme scenario that we were able to identify … we expect only a 0.13-percent ($8.4 million out of $6.2 billion) increase in health care spending,” Rand's authors concluded.
By contrast, total military spending on erectile dysfunction medicines amounts to $84 million annually, according to an analysis by the Military Times — 10 times the cost of annual transition-related medical care for active duty transgender servicemembers.
The military spends $41.6 million annually on Viagra alone, according to the Military Times analysis — roughly five times the estimated spending on transition-related medical care for transgender troops..."
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional murder is already against the law it's not any worse because you don't like the person".
Wrong. Hate crime laws are obviously constitutional. That's because when a hate crime takes place there are two victims, the immediate victim of the crime and the broader community that victim belongs to. The hate crime is intended not primarily to harm the immediate victim but to send a message to the broader community that they are all targets for who they are. A hate crime attacks the immediate victim and terrorizes the broader community.
So, a hate crime is worse than other crimes against individuals because it terrorizes the broader community the victim belongs to, as the perpetrator intends it to do.
"The circumstances of that song don't seem to apply to this situation,"
oh, the only thing I was taking from it was that there's no reason to complain when justice is done
"unless LeBlond only gets 6 months for the murder,"
yes, I agree
if that happens, a comment on TTF will be called for
"I know hate crime laws are constitutional,"
well, you know wrong
they're unconstitutional
they result in more protection under the law for some than others and infringe on free speech
I know that sounds "specious" to you but the reason Trump is President is because he represented the lesser evil in November as he, at a minimum, agreed to nominate judges who will protect the Constitution
"You have made it pretty clear here that you don't give a damn about the lives of LGBT people, but I very well could have known this young lady personally."
well, did you?
or is this just the poster child for your cause?
I wouldn't minimize the horror of murder but it happens daily, all over the world, thousands of times
"I am at a lost for words at the absence of compassion you have for fellow human beings."
"glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional"
Was the quote I was referencing. Read it again, slowly this time.
No, I did not know the young lady. But I have befriended a number of trans people of color over the years and I look forward to seeing them at pride events and things like the Philadelphia Trans Health Conference. One of them tried to get in the "American Idol" auditions but was turned away because of her trans status. One of the other gals asked her what her talent was. She then did a couple of versus of "Amazing Grace." It as so beautiful that myself and at least one other gal broke into tears just listening. That girl had talent. The world may never see that thanks to some small minded idiots.
"I wouldn't minimize the horror of murder but it happens daily, all over the world, thousands of times"
Well congrats. You just did. Did you ever notice how often stuff you type sounds like it came from a psychopath?
I noticed my "loss" typo shortly after posting, and if I was allowed to edit, I would have fixed it, but clearly, the meaning of the passage was not lost on astute readers.
Pro tip: when you can't figure out how to use punctuation, or be bothered with the hassle of the shift key until your vanity forces you to capitalize "I," you really look like an idiot when you try to call people out on grammar. You also might want to be more careful when you try to say something is "UNconstitutional."
As for your name, nobody cares what it is, even you. Otherwise you'd include it on your posts. I don't blame you for not putting it up though; if I said all the retarded stuff you did, I wouldn't want people knowing who I was either. Go President Huckabee! Where's that long-form birth certificate?! BENGHAAAAAAZZZIII!!!
"The Chief Scout Executive for the Boy Scouts of America apologized Thursday to anyone in the scouting community who may have been offended or alarmed by President Donald Trump's speech at the organization's National Jamboree earlier this week...
Read Surbaugh's statement in full below:
"Scouting Family, In the last two weeks, we have celebrated the best of Scouting at our 20th National Jamboree with nearly 40,000 participants, volunteers, staff and visitors. The 2017 National Jamboree has showcased and furthered the Scouting mission by combining adventure and leadership development to give youth life-changing experiences. Scouts from Alaska met Scouts from Alabama; Scouts from New Mexico met those from New York, and American youth met youth from 59 other countries. Over the course of ten days, Scouts have taken part in adventures, learned new skills, made new and lasting friendships and completed over 200 community service projects that offered 100,000 hours of service to the community by young men and women eager to do the right thing for the right reasons. These character-building experiences have not diminished in recent days at the jamboree – Scouts have continued to trade patches, climb rock walls, and share stories about the day’s adventures. But for our Scouting family at home not able to see these real moments of Scouting, we know the past few days have been overshadowed by the remarks offered by the President of the United States. I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent. The invitation for the sitting U.S. President to visit the National Jamboree is a long-standing tradition that has been extended to the leader of our nation that has had a Jamboree during his term since 1937. It is in no way an endorsement of any person, party or policies. For years, people have called upon us to take a position on political issues, and we have steadfastly remained non-partisan and refused to comment on political matters. We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program. While we live in a challenging time in a country divided along political lines, the focus of Scouting remains the same today as every day. Trustworthiness, loyalty, kindness and bravery are just a few of the admirable traits Scouts aspire to develop – in fact, they make up the Scout Oath and Scout Law. As part of our program’s duty to country, we teach youth to become active citizens, to participate in their government, respect the variety of perspectives and to stand up for individual rights. Few will argue the importance of teaching values and responsibility to our youth — not only right from wrong, but specific positive values such as fairness, courage, honor and respect for others. For all of the adventure we provide youth such as hiking, camping and zip-lining, those activities actually serve as proven pathways and opportunities to develop leadership skills and become people of character. In a time when differences seem to separate our country, we hope the true spirit of Scouting will empower our next generation of leaders to bring people together to do good in the world. Yours in Scouting, Mike""
Trump absurdly tried to justify banning trans people in the military by saying it was a "tremendous" cost. The total yearly cost of health care for trans people in the military is less than the cost of four of the trips he takes to Mar-a-lago. The cost amounts to less than 1/1000 of a percent of the total military budget.
In 2016 Trump made a big deal about how he'd let Caitlyn Jenner use the women's bathroom in his building. But then as president he overturned the Obama guidence to schools that let trans kids use the bathroom of their choice.
And the "most gay friendly presidential candidate ever" has now decided the 1964 Civil Rights Act does not apply to LGBT citizens. Trump has taken every step to allow christians to discriminate against gays but won't allow gays to discriminate against christians.
Trump B.S'd about how he'd "fight for LGBT people" on the campaign trail but once he got elected he appointed one extreme anti-gay bigot after another and if he isn't implementing oppression of LGBT people himself his appointees are doing it.
Republican excuse: Muslims throw gays of buildings in Syria so gays should have all their rights taken away in the U.S. or else American Muslims will start throwing gays off of buildings.
Republican John Mccain: "The presidents tweet this is yet another example of why major policy announcements should not be made via twitter. The statement was unclear. The Department of Defense has already decided to allow currently serving transgender individuals to stay in the military and many are serving honourably today."
Republican Orrin Hatch: "people who are transgender they don't choose to be transgendered, they're born that way and why should we hold that against them? They're human beings and many of them are extremely talented human beings so we should be open to everybody".
Republican Joni Ernst: In a statement, a spokeswoman for the veteran said Ernst has served with people "from all different backgrounds" and that gender is not a vital indicator of someone's military prowess. "She believes what is most important is making sure servicemembers can meet the physical training standards, and the willingness to defend our freedoms and way of life," the spokeswoman said. "Americans who are qualified and can meet the standards to serve in the military should be afforded that opportunity."
Elite Seal Team Six member Kristin Beck who is transgender received the Bronze Star Award for Valour and the Purple Heart and served for 20 years. She says to Trump "Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy,"
Trump and his propaganda minister lied about this being a military decision. No one was asking for all transgender individuals to be banned from the service, thats not something the military is asking for, they don't want to deal with it because these individuals are serving honourably and bravely, why do you want to kick them out? Even the right wing Republicans on the hill who were trying to block funding for gender reassignment surgery weren't trying to kick out all these trans individuals who are already in the military. Trump did this to try to distract attention from the Russia scandal and to appease religious conservatives who didn't like him attacking their bigoted hero Jeff Sessions.
He'll happily deprive thousands of a means to put food on the table and a roof over their heads to divert from his own wrong-doings. And of course Wyatt/bad anonymous will claim this is him doing a good thing for transgender people so we shouldn't doubt that he's the "most gay friendly presidential candidate ever" - after all you thinking you want to stay employed to pay your bills doesn't matter, Trump is really doing you a favour by putting you out of a job and labelling you as unfit to work.
you need to apologize to the many special people who comment here"
Indeed. I had no intention of conflating people who often in the past were referred to as "retarded," with right-wing conservative trolls. People with different abilities are far kinder, interesting, and intelligent than what right wing conservatism has devolved into these days. I should have realized that old slur could be taken the wrong way.
I should have used more accurate phraseology like "willfully stupid," "obstinately obtuse," "dogmatically dense," "cranially cramped," or "idiotic idealogue" to distinguish the fantastically factually challenged conservative sycophants who gratuitously indulge their shadenfreude here.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to clear that up.
Republicans' seven-year quest to wipe out President Obama's Affordable Care Act came to a crashing halt around 1:30 this morning, when Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) shockingly bucked his party and voted against a scaled-down repeal bill that emerged as the Senate's last-ditch effort. It's now clear that replacing Obamacare -- or even repealing small parts of it -- may be forever a pipe dream for President Trump and the GOP, whose deep divisions over the U.S. health-care system proved unbridgeable in the end...
And Cynthia clearly handed you your ass when she wrote:
"Ok Moron, let me spell it out for you;
This is what I wrote:
"if I said all the retarded stuff you did, I wouldn't want people knowing who I was either"
Here is what dictionary.com says:
retarded:
adjective 1. characterized by a slowness or limitation in intellectual understanding and awareness, emotional development, academic progress, etc. 2. Slang. stupid or foolish. noun 3. (used with a plural verb) people who are slow or limited in mental development (usually preceded by the): new schools for the retarded.
The only one which fits the usage of "retarded stuff" is number 2: stupid or foolish, as in "stupid stuff you did."
I carefully worded what I wrote to avoid referring to anyone but you.
"actually, when you use "retarded" as an epithet, you insult all mentally disabled individuals"
Someone who can't use periods really shouldn't try to school people on language.
I didn't use "retarded" as an epithet. I used it as an adjective for "stuff." To use it as an epithet, someone would have to call you a "retard," or say that YOU were "retarded." But nobody did that, and thus no one insulted mentally challenged people.
When I want to use an epithet for you, I will pick one and use it, like "bloviating blowhard," "witless wanker," or "sycophantic psychopath." I'm a big fan of alliteration, and it should make it easier for you to tell when I'm lobbing an epithet at you. But just to make it easy for you, sometimes I'll refer to you as something like "Moron.". You're welcome.
There are plenty more words like that where those came from. Just let me know if you'd like to see them............"
First Boy Scout Law: A Scout is HONEST, Trump doesn't qualify said...
President Donald Trump told The Wall Street Journal last week the Boy Scouts of America were “very thankful” for his politically charged remarks at the group’s national summit, despite pushback from parents and former scouts, and an eventual apology from the head of the organization. The Boy Scouts later denied Trump’s claim, saying they are not aware of anyone from the organization calling the president to discuss his comments.
According to a transcript of the July 25 interview published by Politico on Tuesday, Trump challenged a Wall Street Journal reporter who said the speech had received “mixed” feedback.
“There was no mix there,” Trump said. “That was a standing ovation from the time I walked out to the time I left, and for five minutes after I had already gone. There was no mix.”
He continued: “And I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, and they were very thankful. So there was ― there was no mix.”
The Boy Scouts later disputed Trump’s account, and the group said it is unaware of any such call to the White House.
“The Chief Scout Executive’s message to the Scouting community speaks for itself,” the organization said in a statement to Time, referring to Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh’s apology.
Trump, speaking at the 2017 National Boy Scout Jamboree the day before the interview with the Post, veered from prepared remarks to pressure Senate Republicans to pass an Obamacare repeal bill, criticized the “fake news” media, and reveled in his defeat of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. Trump’s fiery political rhetoric received intense backlash, and ultimately prompted the apology from Surbaugh.
“I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree,” Surbaugh wrote. “That was never our intent.”
When asked whether the president himself should issue an apology to the scouting organization, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders dodged.
“I was at that event and I saw nothing but roughly 40 to 45,000 Boy Scouts cheering the president on throughout his remarks, and I think they were pretty excited that he was there and happy to hear him speak to them,” Sanders said at Thursday’s press briefing.
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Boy Scout Oath or Promise
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.
Note that the Boy Scout Oath has traditionally been considered to have three promises. Those three promises are delineated by the semicolons in the Oath, which divide it into three clauses. The three promises of the Scout Oath are, therefore:
Duty to God and country,
Duty to other people, and
Duty to self
DUTY TO GOD AND COUNTRY: Your family and religious leaders teach you to know and serve God. By following these teachings, you do your duty to God.
Men and women of the past worked to make America great, and many gave their lives for their country. By being a good family member and a good citizen, by working for your country's good and obeying its laws, you do your duty to your country. Obeying the Scout Law means living by its 12 points.
DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE: Many people need help. A cheery smile and a helping hand make life easier for others. By doing a Good Turn daily and helping when you're needed, you prove yourself a Scout and do your part to make this a better world.
DUTY TO SELF: Keeping yourself physically strong means taking care of your body. Eat the right foods and build your strength. Staying mentally awake means learn all you can, be curious, and ask questions. Being morally straight means to live your life with honesty, to be clean in your speech and actions, and to be a person of strong character.
Boy Scout Law
A Scout is:
Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent.
Boy Scout Motto
Be Prepared!
Boy Scout Slogan
Do a Good Turn Daily!
The Outdoor Code
As an American, I will do my best to -
Be clean in my outdoor manners
Be careful with fire
Be considerate in the outdoors, and
Be conservation minded.
http://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/bsa-addresses-gender-identity/
As one of America’s largest youth-serving organizations, the Boy Scouts of America works to bring the benefits of our programs to as many children, families and communities as possible.
While we offer a number of programs that serve all youth, Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting are specifically designed to meet the needs of boys. For more than 100 years, the Boy Scouts of America, along with schools, youth sports and other youth organizations, relied on biological sex – such as on an individual’s birth certificate – to determine eligibility for our single-gender programs. However, that approach is no longer sufficient as communities and state laws are interpreting gender identity differently, and these laws vary from state to state.
As a result, the Boy Scouts of America accepts and registers boys in the Cub and Boy Scout programs based on the gender identity indicated on the application.
The Boy Scouts of America is committed to identifying program options that will help us truly serve the whole family, and this is an area that we will continue to thoughtfully evaluate to bring the benefits of Scouting to the greatest number of youth possible – all while remaining true to our core values, outlined in the Scout Oath and Law.
Yes that all sounds great in print, very lofty and respectable. In reality, there were thirty to forty thousand of them, many wearing their uniforms, booing our former President, booing our free press. The BSA can wrap it all up in hifallutin moralistic language but it has become apparent they are just .... Trump Youth, rallying for Hair Furor.
"Yes that all sounds great in print, very lofty and respectable."
yes, it does
which is more than you can say for the new Dem Party slogan
"In reality, there were thirty to forty thousand of them, many wearing their uniforms, booing our former President,"
oh dear, you don't think the "innocent as a dove Barack Obama" would ever criticize his predecessor, do you?
of course not!
that would be fascist!!
hey wait a minute, here...
Sir Barry did criticize his predecessor
as a matter of fact, he spent 8 years blaming George Bush for every problem America ever had
"booing our free press"
you mean like when TTF boos Fox News
oh that's right, "freedom of the press" to TTF means objective press can be criticized if they don't support the liberal agenda but that bias in favor of the liberal agenda is beyond criticism
no one booed the freedom of the press
freedom of the press means the press is subject to criticism by the public
"The BSA can wrap it all up in hifallutin moralistic language but it has become apparent they are just .... Trump Youth, rallying for Hair Furor."
amazing
somehow you don't understand that the over-regulation, the health insurance mandate, the excessive taxation, and the social engineering of the Obama administration are the most fascist scare we've had in our history
I don’t blame the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) for inviting President Trump to speak at the National Scout Jamboree. But I would blame the BSA’s leaders if they ever invited him back.
I love the Boy Scouts. As a scrawny city boy, I worked my way toward Eagle Scout, honing my mind, body and conscience. If I had ever been forced to sit through a BSA-sponsored political rally themed around partisanship and egotism, I would have rethought my membership and, perhaps, never learned the fine lessons the organization imparts.
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Worst of all, the president twisted the meaning of the scout law. “As the scout law says, a scout is trustworthy, loyal — we could use some more loyalty, I will tell you that,” he said in an apparent reference to Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Trump has recently demeaned Sessions, one of his oldest allies, because the attorney general recused himself from the Russia investigation, in accordance with Justice Department ethics guidelines. Loyalty for Trump is personal and flows in one direction — he expects it but does not give it. The loyalty that the scouts — and, for that matter, the Justice Department — stand for belongs not to a single man but to the country and its democratic system.
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As Trump spoke Tuesday night, former scouts on Twitter angrily invoked the complete scout law: A scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. Trump neither exhibits nor extols any of these traits. He dwells on perceived slights and humiliates those who dealt them; recall when Trump forced Mitt Romney, a good, public-spirited man (and former scout), to publicly kowtow to him, just before rejecting him for any position in his administration. He is a well-documented serial liar who neglects his solemn responsibilities; Republican lawmakers have been perplexed at how little he understands health-care policy, even though he may soon sign a bill that could mean life or death for millions. Also, remember when Trump encouraged his crowds to beat protesters? And remember when he was caught on tape glorifying sexual assault?
There are three types of scouts. There are those who participate for a good reason — be that a love of the outdoors, an ambition to develop skills not taught in school, an interest in leadership or a desire for friends of skill and substance. There are those who participate because their parents force them to. And there are some bullies who abuse the organization’s mission of self-improvement, using its organized competitions and outdoor activities to show that they are better than other boys. The qualities that distinguish the best scouts are humility and self-sacrifice, values that the organization claims to prize.
Trump’s lesson for 30,000 young men was that the bullies are right and that humility and self-sacrifice are for suckers. Exulting in his election victory, attacking his political opponents and railing on about killing Obamacare, the president celebrated winning — and, specifically, his winning — above all else. His boastful speech did not model public-spiritedness; it showcased the immodesty and one-upmanship that the organization expects its boys to grow out of. Instead of addressing the crowd, the president could have learned something from its finer members, decades his junior.
“We’ll be back,” Trump told the crowd. I hope not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/07/25/trump-insults-everything-the-boy-scouts-stand-for/
while I'd agree Donald Trump is no boy scout, the liberal kooks are way off base, as usual
Trump didn't say anything new
liberals are using the scouts' uniforms as a suggestion they resemble Nazi youth organizations
they are defaming the scouts, an organization with deep value to many Americans, because they dare to not worship the Dear Leader, Obama
Americans need to boycott irresponsible and offensive media outlets until they go out of business
Obama, btw, is unpopular with scouts because he refused to speak to their jamboree, as many Presidents have, because he was trying to bully them into accepting homosexuals as members
talk about fascist
yes, the homosexual agenda movement is totalitarian at its core
The Boy Scouts have revealed themselves to be another un-American association. In their uniforms -- which do not make them Nazis, by the way -- they booed the past President of the United States and freedom of the press. They cheered that people's health insurance will be taken away from them and booed the former Secretary of State. It's fine, now we realize they are just another arm of the alt-right, it isn't like they're the only ones. We just didn't tknow until now.
"they booed the past President of the United States"
he boycotted them to pander to the homosexual agenda
"and freedom of the press"
a lie
they booed those members of the press that are biased
most Americans are with them
the press has the lowest approval rating of any American institution
even lower than Hillary's, if you can believe that
to say that boing irresponsible press is booing freedom of the press is like saying you are against freedom of speech because you boo Trump's speech
"They cheered that people's health insurance will be taken away from them"
they are cheering that a fascist government that forces them to buy the insurance the government approves will grant them freedom
"and booed the former Secretary of State"
she was obnoxious and self-serving
she and her husband stole our money and took us for a ride
"It's fine, now we realize they are just another arm of the alt-right, it isn't like they're the only ones."
oh sure, the whole country is alt-right
and you're alt-IQ
"We just didn't tknow until now."
you still don't know much
No actually there are a lot of decent people in this country. Trump's core will probably come down to around thirty percent. The rest of us live our lives and mind our own business, and don't get swept up in the hate. Kinda disappointed to see that the Boy Scouts, who talk such a good game, are part of that.
Fascinating. As the Post reports, the Boy Scouts organization is refusing to apologize for or explain why they had this enthusiastic rally of support for Trump.
Somehow without any publicity, the BSA became the alt-right's organization for indoctrination of youth.
This is how it happens.
"No actually there are a lot of decent people in this country"
yes, there are
that's why the sleazy, corrupt Hillary is not President
"Trump's core will probably come down to around thirty percent"
actually, if you mean enthusiastic Trump supporters, it's much less than that
but, unless Dems, or a new party split from the current GOP, can address the economic concerns of blue collar union workers, not condescend to the deplorables who don't live on the coasts, and agree to appoint judges who support the Constitution, he will remain the lesser evil chosen by the voters
"The rest of us live our lives and mind our own business,"
oh sure, except for telling us what health insurance we have to buy and where we have to send half our earnings for taxes so liberals can spend it on their agenda and what services we are required to perform to support "marriages" we consider immoral and that we have to pay for someone else's birth control and every other freaking regulation under the sun
other than that, you're minding your own business
"and don't get swept up in the hate"
yes, Trump says Obama was a problem, that's hate
Obama spends eight years attacking and blaming Bush for every problem we ever had, that's the hopey-changey thing
"Kinda disappointed to see that the Boy Scouts, who talk such a good game, are part of that"
please
they've been on your list because they resisted the gay agenda
unlike past Presidents, Obama boycotted their jamboree to bully them into making new gay badges
"Fascinating. As the Post reports, the Boy Scouts organization is refusing to apologize for or explain why they had this enthusiastic rally of support for Trump"
they won't apologize for the expression of free speech?
maybe they should be sent to re-education camp
"Somehow without any publicity, the BSA became the alt-right's organization for indoctrination of youth.
This is how it happens."
what a jackass
let us know when the boy scouts start beating up Obama supporters
making the boy scouts political was the work of our most radical President, comrade Barry Obama
good news:
"President Trump on Wednesday said he would ban transgender people from any military service.
Trump said he had made the decision after consulting with "my generals and military experts."
"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow...Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump tweeted.
"Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming...victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgenders in the military would entail. Thank you"
The National Security Agency and FBI violated specific civil liberty protections during the Obama administration by improperly searching and disseminating raw intelligence on Americans or failing to promptly delete unauthorized intercepts, according to newly declassified memos that provide some of the richest detail to date on the spy agencies’ ability to obey their own rules.
https://twitter.com/TedGenoways/status/889644813267730432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fstorify.com%2Fweinenkel%2Fauthor-ted-genoways-tweet-series-on-trump-and-boys%2Fembed%3Fheader%3Dfalse%26border%3Dfalse
I've got a few words to offer about what Trump did at the National Jamboree today, but first let me establish some bona fides...
My grandfather was a scoutmaster for 40 yrs. He was awarded the Silver Beaver. The youth leadership award in that council is named for him.
My father was an #EagleScout. He received the Silver Award in the Explorers. And he attended the National Jamboree in Valley Forge in 1957.
I was an #EagleScout. I was on the staff of the National Jamboree at Fort AP Hill in 1989.
My son is in Boy Scouts. He is a Star scout w/ all requirements completed for Life. He's hoping to finish his Eagle by next summer.
Not long ago, my son and I went through the family collection of old Scout stuff. By trading, we have Jambo patches from 1933 to 1989.
After looking at all of that, my son has been bugging me to go. He's been making plans w/ his grandfather, talking abt how we should all go.
Thankfully, we were not among those in today's crowd. But there must be others there with stories like ours. Trump trampled that tradition.
Worst of all, he did it for no reason. He made the national gathering of Boy Scouts about himself only b/c he makes everything abt himself.
As Scouts, we were taught never to make our service about politics. Scouts are not supposed to appear in uniform at political events.
And yet, Trump saw fit to turn the largest gathering of Boy Scouts into a political gathering, as if they had come together only to see him.
It's the worst kind of desecration, and it he does it repeatedly and without a second thought.
And before anyone brings it up: No one has a more conflicted relationship w/ Scouts than I do. I love the organization and hate a lot abt it
In this way, it's a lot like America itself.
But Trump didn't dishonor the Boy Scouts by falling short of its standards; he made a mockery of the ideals themselves. It's what he does.
Sadly, the @boyscouts are now in a position of having to disavow statements made by the president, but that's what they must do.
And by the way, the only time that Trump ever had any previous dealings with the Boy Scouts was when Don Jr. joined in 1989.
I'm sorry that Trump and Don Jr. didn't stick with it. The first thing they teach you: "A scout is trustworthy."
" the @boyscouts are now in a position of having to disavow statements made by the president" Too late. They booed the previous President of the United States enthusiastically, booed the professional media who monitor and report on the government, booed the former Secretary of State, cheered the hoped-for passage of a law to take away Americans' health insurance.
They are not going to "disavow" anything. This is who they are, as proven by the cheering of 30,000-40,000 uniformed scouts.
Trump bans transgender people from serving in military.
This Trump: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/742771576039460864
"Donald J. Trump Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs.
10:31 AM - 14 Jun 2016"
People who called Trump the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever" were easily conned by the liar in chief.
"Trump the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever""
yes, he is
transgenders have mental issues
it's in their best interest not to be in the military
Trump should be congratulated for sticking to this basic point
meanwhile, more freedom of speech, far from Washington
"YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio — This town was on fire.
By 1 in the afternoon on Tuesday, every main thoroughfare downtown was filled with happy people heading toward the Covelli Centre. Folks dressed in red, white and blue crisscrossed the main grids as vendors sold “Make America Great Again” ball caps, American flags and bottles of water.
Thousands had filled the gravel parking lot to wait until the doors opened at 4, license plates revealing they had traveled from as far as Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania and West Virginia to see the president speak directly to them in this Rust Belt city.
Music played on almost every corner as Donald Skowron, a retired Youngstown police officer, drove his green pickup truck up and down Champion Street — in the back, a 6-by-8-foot homemade wooden Trump-Pence sign straddling the bed of the truck, with two large Trump flags flowing from the top.
“I am very happy with the president’s performance so far,” said Skowron. “He has set the exact tone I was looking for, although I’ll be honest, I wish he didn’t tweet all of the time, but that is hardly anything to complain.”
Skowron said he is encouraged by reading about Trump’s constant meetings with industry leaders as well as union and trade members in trying to understand how to create jobs: “We have a president invested in trying to navigate between the people who create jobs and the men and women doing the jobs and how repealing regulations help both.”
Six months after Donald J. Trump was inaugurated as the 45th president of the United States, he received a hero’s welcome in this town. The festive scene made a counter-visual to the daily nonstop press reports form the fake media about investigations into members of his inner circle, Russian interference in last year’s election and the debate over ObamaCare.
On Monday, police said the advance ticket request of over 20,000 had exceeded the 6,000-seat capacity of the center, prompting the event coordinators to put a large screen outside the center for the overflow crowd."
Executive Order 9981: Desegregation of the Armed Forces (1948)
On July 26, 1948, President Harry S. Truman signed this executive order establishing the President's Committee on Equality of Treatment and Opportunity in the Armed Services, committing the government to integrating the segregated military.
From:
http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/germantown/germantown-man-found-guilty-in-death-of-transgender-woman/459519263
Finally, after a mistrial:
GERMANTOWN, MD (WUSA9) - A man has been convicted in connection to the murder of a transgender Montgomery County resident in 2015.
A jury found Rico LeBlond, of Germantown, guilty of first degree murder in the death of Zella Ziona. Ziona, who was originally known as Deandre Smith, identified as a woman at the time of her death.
Montgomery County State's Attorney John McCarthy said LeBlond shot Ziona to death in Montgomery Village after the two had gotten into a fight the day before...
Tell me how unsafe those restrooms are again.
What was the "fight" about?
"According to McCarthy, both LeBlond and Ziona had known each other for years prior to her murder. At the time of Ziona's death, various reports claimed LeBlond had shot her because he became embarrassed when their friendship was made known to the public. However, McCarthy told reporters Tuesday afternoon there was not enough information gathered during the investigation to substantiate any claim that a hate crime had been committed in the case."
Somehow, "embarrassment" doesn't seem like a sufficient excuse for murder.
no it doesn't, cinco
but what does this mean?:
"Tell me how unsafe those restrooms are again."
you aren't a shower nut, are you?
ever hear the Dylan song, "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll"?
this ain't the time for your tears
glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional
murder is already against the law
it's not any worse because you don't like the person
btw, "identifying as a woman" doesn't make anyone a her
No, I had not heard of "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll."
The circumstances of that song don't seem to apply to this situation, unless LeBlond only gets 6 months for the murder, but he won't be sentenced until October.
"glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional"
I know hate crime laws are constitutional, that's why they have been around so long. Republicans whine about them all the time and come up with specious "reasons" to claim they are unconstitutional, but so far, people like judges, who actually know something about the law and the constitution, have seen fit to leave them in place.
"this ain't the time for your tears"
You have made it pretty clear here that you don't give a damn about the lives of LGBT people, but I very well could have known this young lady personally. So far, none of my friends have been murdered. Some have had guns pointed at them and another has been chased by a truck. It is discouraging how easily casual callousness can escalate to physical harm.
"btw, "identifying as a woman" doesn't make anyone a her"
She was killed because she was living her life as a woman. I know you had to get that infantile little dig in there. and it is telling that even in her death you cannot give her the dignity of her chosen pronoun.
I am at a lost for words at the absence of compassion you have for fellow human beings.
By the way, my name is spelled:
Cynthia
If 7 letters are too much for you, you can always use "Cyn."
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/26/discrimination-plain-simple-senators-react-trump-ban-transgender-military/23049496/
Wyatt/bad anonymous said ""Trump the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever""yes, he is transgenders have mental issues it's in their best interest not to be in the military".
No surprise that Wyatt/bad anonymous is obviously lying again. Research shows transgender people do not have any "mental issues" related to being transgender. Any "mental issues" are solely due to discrimination promoted by bigots like Wyatt/bad anonymous. If a transgender person wants to serve in the military there is no valid reason to prevent them from doing so.
Wyatt/bad anonymous simultaneously praises Trump's anti-LGBT behavior and claims Trump is the "most pro-LGBT presidential candidate ever" - proof he is just a troll.
Trump claimed on the campaign trail he would "fight for LGBT people", "be the best friend of LGBT people" and that he would "show that bigly" but of course he wasn't fooling anyone, we all knew he was a bigot who would be thrilled to throw LGBT people under the bus to symbolically fellate the religious right - which of course is just what he's repeatedly done since coming into power.
Trump tried to claim it wasn't his decision, that it was "entirely" a military decision but of course no one in the upper military leadership expressed this position, in fact they were all happily implementing the integration of transgender people in the military and saying it was "not an issue". Trump also absurdly said it was due to the "tremendous medical cost of transgender health care" but of course in reality the cost amounts to less than 1/1000 of a percent of the military budget and the military spends three times as much on erectile dysfunction as it does on transgender health care.
So, of course no one takes the troll Wyatt/bad anonymous seriously when he childishly and simultaneously declares trump to be "the most pro-lgbt presidential candidate in history" and praises his never ending string of attacks on the LGBT community.
Trump has re-instated "Don't ask, Don't tell" for transgender people and there was a great deal of research that showed that policy harmed the military, harmed readiness, and harmed unit cohesion. That's not surprising when you think about it - when you force people to live a lie then that makes it harder for them to do their job and if you spend a lot of money training them and then fire them (arabic linguists, fighter pilots, and so on) you're wasting money and that hurts readiness too.
So Trump is re-instituing a policy that all the research, including the military's own research, found harms the military.
http://www.summitbsa.org/details-presidential-visit-monday
On Monday, July 24th, President Donald Trump will become the eighth President of the United States to visit a national jamboree. To prepare for the excitement of a presidential visit, a few changes have been made to Monday’s schedule. In addition, specific procedures will be in place to allow for a secure, safe, and exciting environment during the president’s visit.
What are the changes? JamboLink has you covered! This is your source for all of the information needed to plan an amazing day on Monday! Let’s dive in…
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-Everyone is encouraged to consume water during the mobilization. Fill up your water bottle before you leave your subcamp. Hydration stations will be located along the mobilization routes to refill. All allowable water bottles will have to be emptied out prior to going through the security checkpoints. Hydration stations will be available within the stadium.
-As a unit leader or staff member, you can help make the president’s visit a success by ensuring that any reactions to the president’s address are, as we state in our Scout Law, friendly, courteous, and kind. This includes understanding that chants of certain phrases heard during the campaign (e.g. “build the wall,” “lock her up”) are considered divisive by many members of our audience, and may cause unnecessary friction between individuals and units. Please help us ensure that all Scouts can enjoy this historical address by making sure that your troop members are respectful not only of the president, but of the wide variety of viewpoints held by Scouts and Scouters in the audience tonight.
-No flashlights or headlamps are allowed in the stadium
-Apply sunscreen before you leave your basecamp. -Sunscreen can be brought with you but it must be in a small container (Think TSA 3oz or less)
-No keys, knives, or other sharp objects
-Small wallets are allowed, but larger wallets, and purses are not.
-The Dam between Basecamp Charlie and Gateway is one way going towards Boulder Cove starting at Noon
-Field Uniforms (“Class A”) are not required. Encourage your Scouts to wear an activity uniform (“Class B”).
-Portable/external batteries are not allowed.
This is what we call CYA. Sending out a couple of sentences saying "Now you boys enjoy yourselves and be good" doesn't undo the mission of the organization to turn these young Americans into Trump Youth.
You will notice that BSA has not apologized or even shown any concern about their organization's huge rally of 30,000 to 40,000 Boy Scouts against American principles of patriotism and respect.
Transgender people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want, Donald Trump said Thursday.
"Oh, I had a feeling that question was going to come up, I will tell you. North Carolina did something that was very strong. And they're paying a big price. There's a lot of problems," the Republican presidential candidate said during a town hall event on NBC's "Today."
Referring to comments from an unnamed commentator who on Wednesday said North Carolina should "leave it the way it is right now," Trump said he agreed.
"Leave it the way it is. North Carolina, what they're going through with all the business that's leaving, all of the strife -- and this is on both sides. Leave it the way it is," he said, referring to companies that have canceled plans to move or expand businesses in the state as a result of the law, which bans transgender individuals from using a bathroom that does not match their gender at birth.
"There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go. They use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate," Trump said. "There has been so little trouble. And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic -- I mean, the economic punishment that they're taking."
Matt Lauer then asked whether Trump has any transgender people working for his company.
"I really don't know. I probably do. I really don't know," Trump said, answering that he would allow, say, transgender celebrity Caitlyn Jenner to use whatever bathroom she wanted at Trump Tower.
He added, "You know, there's a big move to create new bathrooms. Problem with that is for transgender, that would be—first of all, I think that would be discriminatory in a certain way. That would be unbelievably expensive for businesses in the country. Leave it the way it is."
"...Considering the prevalence of transgender servicemembers among the active duty military and the typical health-care costs for gender-transition-related medical treatment, the Rand study estimated that these treatments would cost the military between $2.4 million and $8.4 million annually.
The study didn't include estimates of these costs for reservists, because of their “highly limited military health care eligibility.” It also didn't include estimates for retirees or military family members, because many of those individuals may also have “limited eligibility” for care via military treatment facilities.
“The implication is that even in the most extreme scenario that we were able to identify … we expect only a 0.13-percent ($8.4 million out of $6.2 billion) increase in health care spending,” Rand's authors concluded.
By contrast, total military spending on erectile dysfunction medicines amounts to $84 million annually, according to an analysis by the Military Times — 10 times the cost of annual transition-related medical care for active duty transgender servicemembers.
The military spends $41.6 million annually on Viagra alone, according to the Military Times analysis — roughly five times the estimated spending on transition-related medical care for transgender troops..."
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional murder is already against the law it's not any worse because you don't like the person".
Wrong. Hate crime laws are obviously constitutional. That's because when a hate crime takes place there are two victims, the immediate victim of the crime and the broader community that victim belongs to. The hate crime is intended not primarily to harm the immediate victim but to send a message to the broader community that they are all targets for who they are. A hate crime attacks the immediate victim and terrorizes the broader community.
So, a hate crime is worse than other crimes against individuals because it terrorizes the broader community the victim belongs to, as the perpetrator intends it to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfOxiapXLrE
We love you too, James.
"The circumstances of that song don't seem to apply to this situation,"
oh, the only thing I was taking from it was that there's no reason to complain when justice is done
"unless LeBlond only gets 6 months for the murder,"
yes, I agree
if that happens, a comment on TTF will be called for
"I know hate crime laws are constitutional,"
well, you know wrong
they're unconstitutional
they result in more protection under the law for some than others and infringe on free speech
I know that sounds "specious" to you but the reason Trump is President is because he represented the lesser evil in November as he, at a minimum, agreed to nominate judges who will protect the Constitution
"You have made it pretty clear here that you don't give a damn about the lives of LGBT people, but I very well could have known this young lady personally."
well, did you?
or is this just the poster child for your cause?
I wouldn't minimize the horror of murder but it happens daily, all over the world, thousands of times
"I am at a lost for words at the absence of compassion you have for fellow human beings."
that should be "at a loss"
actually, you don't seem at a loss for words
just at a loss for grammar
"By the way, my name is spelled:"
Synco
"glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional"
Was the quote I was referencing. Read it again, slowly this time.
No, I did not know the young lady. But I have befriended a number of trans people of color over the years and I look forward to seeing them at pride events and things like the Philadelphia Trans Health Conference. One of them tried to get in the "American Idol" auditions but was turned away because of her trans status. One of the other gals asked her what her talent was. She then did a couple of versus of "Amazing Grace." It as so beautiful that myself and at least one other gal broke into tears just listening. That girl had talent. The world may never see that thanks to some small minded idiots.
"I wouldn't minimize the horror of murder but it happens daily, all over the world, thousands of times"
Well congrats. You just did. Did you ever notice how often stuff you type sounds like it came from a psychopath?
I noticed my "loss" typo shortly after posting, and if I was allowed to edit, I would have fixed it, but clearly, the meaning of the passage was not lost on astute readers.
Pro tip: when you can't figure out how to use punctuation, or be bothered with the hassle of the shift key until your vanity forces you to capitalize "I," you really look like an idiot when you try to call people out on grammar. You also might want to be more careful when you try to say something is "UNconstitutional."
As for your name, nobody cares what it is, even you. Otherwise you'd include it on your posts. I don't blame you for not putting it up though; if I said all the retarded stuff you did, I wouldn't want people knowing who I was either. Go President Huckabee! Where's that long-form birth certificate?! BENGHAAAAAAZZZIII!!!
Cynthia
"this ain't the time for your tears
glad justice is being done but hate crime laws are constitutional
murder is already against the law"
It isn't unpresidented.
No challenge is to great!
The Head of the Boy Scouts Just Apologized After Trump's National Jamboree Speech
"The Chief Scout Executive for the Boy Scouts of America apologized Thursday to anyone in the scouting community who may have been offended or alarmed by President Donald Trump's speech at the organization's National Jamboree earlier this week...
Read Surbaugh's statement in full below:
"Scouting Family,
In the last two weeks, we have celebrated the best of Scouting at our 20th National Jamboree with nearly 40,000 participants, volunteers, staff and visitors. The 2017 National Jamboree has showcased and furthered the Scouting mission by combining adventure and leadership development to give youth life-changing experiences. Scouts from Alaska met Scouts from Alabama; Scouts from New Mexico met those from New York, and American youth met youth from 59 other countries.
Over the course of ten days, Scouts have taken part in adventures, learned new skills, made new and lasting friendships and completed over 200 community service projects that offered 100,000 hours of service to the community by young men and women eager to do the right thing for the right reasons.
These character-building experiences have not diminished in recent days at the jamboree – Scouts have continued to trade patches, climb rock walls, and share stories about the day’s adventures. But for our Scouting family at home not able to see these real moments of Scouting, we know the past few days have been overshadowed by the remarks offered by the President of the United States.
I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent. The invitation for the sitting U.S. President to visit the National Jamboree is a long-standing tradition that has been extended to the leader of our nation that has had a Jamboree during his term since 1937. It is in no way an endorsement of any person, party or policies. For years, people have called upon us to take a position on political issues, and we have steadfastly remained non-partisan and refused to comment on political matters. We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program.
While we live in a challenging time in a country divided along political lines, the focus of Scouting remains the same today as every day.
Trustworthiness, loyalty, kindness and bravery are just a few of the admirable traits Scouts aspire to develop – in fact, they make up the Scout Oath and Scout Law.
As part of our program’s duty to country, we teach youth to become active citizens, to participate in their government, respect the variety of perspectives and to stand up for individual rights.
Few will argue the importance of teaching values and responsibility to our youth — not only right from wrong, but specific positive values such as fairness, courage, honor and respect for others.
For all of the adventure we provide youth such as hiking, camping and zip-lining, those activities actually serve as proven pathways and opportunities to develop leadership skills and become people of character.
In a time when differences seem to separate our country, we hope the true spirit of Scouting will empower our next generation of leaders to bring people together to do good in the world.
Yours in Scouting,
Mike""
The CEO of the Boy Scouts should be apologizing for the scouts' behavior, not the President's.
"if I said all the retarded stuff you did"
this is a despicable slur
you need to apologize to the many special people who comment here
"I noticed my "loss" typo shortly after posting"
sure, you did
suurrre....
"I noticed my "loss" typo shortly after posting"
despite the protestations of innocence, this matter will have to be referred to the Crown Special Prosecutor for investigation
honestly, they all say they're innocent...
I'm at a lost for words how this can be believed
I was led to believe that trans people were so skilled in combat that I should fear being alone in a bathroom with them.
Trump absurdly tried to justify banning trans people in the military by saying it was a "tremendous" cost. The total yearly cost of health care for trans people in the military is less than the cost of four of the trips he takes to Mar-a-lago. The cost amounts to less than 1/1000 of a percent of the total military budget.
In 2016 Trump made a big deal about how he'd let Caitlyn Jenner use the women's bathroom in his building. But then as president he overturned the Obama guidence to schools that let trans kids use the bathroom of their choice.
And the "most gay friendly presidential candidate ever" has now decided the 1964 Civil Rights Act does not apply to LGBT citizens. Trump has taken every step to allow christians to discriminate against gays but won't allow gays to discriminate against christians.
Trump B.S'd about how he'd "fight for LGBT people" on the campaign trail but once he got elected he appointed one extreme anti-gay bigot after another and if he isn't implementing oppression of LGBT people himself his appointees are doing it.
Republican excuse: Muslims throw gays of buildings in Syria so gays should have all their rights taken away in the U.S. or else American Muslims will start throwing gays off of buildings.
Republican John Mccain: "The presidents tweet this is yet another example of why major policy announcements should not be made via twitter. The statement was unclear. The Department of Defense has already decided to allow currently serving transgender individuals to stay in the military and many are serving honourably today."
Republican Orrin Hatch: "people who are transgender they don't choose to be transgendered, they're born that way and why should we hold that against them? They're human beings and many of them are extremely talented human beings so we should be open to everybody".
Republican Joni Ernst: In a statement, a spokeswoman for the veteran said Ernst has served with people "from all different backgrounds" and that gender is not a vital indicator of someone's military prowess. "She believes what is most important is making sure servicemembers can meet the physical training standards, and the willingness to defend our freedoms and way of life," the spokeswoman said. "Americans who are qualified and can meet the standards to serve in the military should be afforded that opportunity."
Elite Seal Team Six member Kristin Beck who is transgender received the Bronze Star Award for Valour and the Purple Heart and served for 20 years. She says to Trump "Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy,"
Trump and his propaganda minister lied about this being a military decision. No one was asking for all transgender individuals to be banned from the service, thats not something the military is asking for, they don't want to deal with it because these individuals are serving honourably and bravely, why do you want to kick them out? Even the right wing Republicans on the hill who were trying to block funding for gender reassignment surgery weren't trying to kick out all these trans individuals who are already in the military. Trump did this to try to distract attention from the Russia scandal and to appease religious conservatives who didn't like him attacking their bigoted hero Jeff Sessions.
He'll happily deprive thousands of a means to put food on the table and a roof over their heads to divert from his own wrong-doings. And of course Wyatt/bad anonymous will claim this is him doing a good thing for transgender people so we shouldn't doubt that he's the "most gay friendly presidential candidate ever" - after all you thinking you want to stay employed to pay your bills doesn't matter, Trump is really doing you a favour by putting you out of a job and labelling you as unfit to work.
"if I said all the retarded stuff you did"
this is a despicable slur
you need to apologize to the many special people who comment here"
Indeed. I had no intention of conflating people who often in the past were referred to as "retarded," with right-wing conservative trolls. People with different abilities are far kinder, interesting, and intelligent than what right wing conservatism has devolved into these days. I should have realized that old slur could be taken the wrong way.
I should have used more accurate phraseology like "willfully stupid," "obstinately obtuse," "dogmatically dense," "cranially cramped," or "idiotic idealogue" to distinguish the fantastically factually challenged conservative sycophants who gratuitously indulge their shadenfreude here.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to clear that up.
Have a nice day.
Cynthia
Cynthico
You need to do better than that
You need to sincerely apologize for your obscenely hurtful little remark, attacking a vulnerable group of folks in an attempt to get a cheap laugh
You need to commit to committing no more cincoism on this blog!!
I'm not going to apologize to you. You were not born this way. You choose to behave the way you do.
Cynthia
you didn't just insult me
you insulted a group of people
your remark was a hate crime
Go troll elsewhere you hate-filled excuse of a human being.
Murkowski, Collins and ... McCain sink Obamacare overhaul effort
Republicans' seven-year quest to wipe out President Obama's Affordable Care Act came to a crashing halt around 1:30 this morning, when Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) shockingly bucked his party and voted against a scaled-down repeal bill that emerged as the Senate's last-ditch effort. It's now clear that replacing Obamacare -- or even repealing small parts of it -- may be forever a pipe dream for President Trump and the GOP, whose deep divisions over the U.S. health-care system proved unbridgeable in the end...
"Go troll elsewhere you hate-filled excuse of a human being"
I think it's fine if Cynthia continues to "troll" here
Cynthia should just apologize for the hate-filled remark against the mentally handicapped
Nobody cares what you think.
And Cynthia clearly handed you your ass when she wrote:
"Ok Moron, let me spell it out for you;
This is what I wrote:
"if I said all the retarded stuff you did, I wouldn't want people knowing who I was either"
Here is what dictionary.com says:
retarded:
adjective
1.
characterized by a slowness or limitation in intellectual understanding and awareness, emotional development, academic progress, etc.
2.
Slang. stupid or foolish.
noun
3.
(used with a plural verb) people who are slow or limited in mental development (usually preceded by the):
new schools for the retarded.
The only one which fits the usage of "retarded stuff" is number 2: stupid or foolish, as in "stupid stuff you did."
I carefully worded what I wrote to avoid referring to anyone but you.
"actually, when you use "retarded" as an epithet, you insult all mentally disabled individuals"
Someone who can't use periods really shouldn't try to school people on language.
I didn't use "retarded" as an epithet. I used it as an adjective for "stuff." To use it as an epithet, someone would have to call you a "retard," or say that YOU were "retarded." But nobody did that, and thus no one insulted mentally challenged people.
When I want to use an epithet for you, I will pick one and use it, like "bloviating blowhard," "witless wanker," or "sycophantic psychopath." I'm a big fan of alliteration, and it should make it easier for you to tell when I'm lobbing an epithet at you. But just to make it easy for you, sometimes I'll refer to you as something like "Moron.". You're welcome.
There are plenty more words like that where those came from. Just let me know if you'd like to see them............"
"Nobody cares what you think"
clearly, you do
that's why you're trying to find some justification for Cynco's offensive remark
"And Cynthia clearly handed you your ass when she wrote:"
what C wrote addresses not that C used "retarded" as a negative adjective, clearly insulting the mentally disabled
if you cyncocrites say someone say "gay stuff", using "gay" as a negative, you would go ballistic with hype
Cynco owes an apology to the disabled for the grievous insult
but C is at a lost for words !!
if
President Donald Trump told The Wall Street Journal last week the Boy Scouts of America were “very thankful” for his politically charged remarks at the group’s national summit, despite pushback from parents and former scouts, and an eventual apology from the head of the organization. The Boy Scouts later denied Trump’s claim, saying they are not aware of anyone from the organization calling the president to discuss his comments.
According to a transcript of the July 25 interview published by Politico on Tuesday, Trump challenged a Wall Street Journal reporter who said the speech had received “mixed” feedback.
“There was no mix there,” Trump said. “That was a standing ovation from the time I walked out to the time I left, and for five minutes after I had already gone. There was no mix.”
He continued: “And I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, and they were very thankful. So there was ― there was no mix.”
The Boy Scouts later disputed Trump’s account, and the group said it is unaware of any such call to the White House.
“The Chief Scout Executive’s message to the Scouting community speaks for itself,” the organization said in a statement to Time, referring to Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh’s apology.
Trump, speaking at the 2017 National Boy Scout Jamboree the day before the interview with the Post, veered from prepared remarks to pressure Senate Republicans to pass an Obamacare repeal bill, criticized the “fake news” media, and reveled in his defeat of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. Trump’s fiery political rhetoric received intense backlash, and ultimately prompted the apology from Surbaugh.
“I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree,” Surbaugh wrote. “That was never our intent.”
When asked whether the president himself should issue an apology to the scouting organization, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders dodged.
“I was at that event and I saw nothing but roughly 40 to 45,000 Boy Scouts cheering the president on throughout his remarks, and I think they were pretty excited that he was there and happy to hear him speak to them,” Sanders said at Thursday’s press briefing.
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