Thursday, July 27, 2017

Welcome to Dictatorship

The Post this morning announces: "Trump announces that he will ban transgender people from serving in the military". Naturally, we have something to say about that.

Actually, I hardly have to comment. It's a bad idea and interestingly enough just about everybody is lining up against it. There had been some debate going on about whether the military should pay for sex reassignment surgery -- which, by the way, The Post notes that The military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender troops’ medical care -- and that is fine, it is a great thing to debate, let the conservatives and liberals fight it out. But nobody was proposing banning transgender people from the military. The President got up in the morning and decided he needed to distract us from his plan to fire his Attorney General and special counsel, distract us from the fact that the Russia investigation is getting very close to him and his finances and his business associates, distract us from noticing that he and his staff are a crime mob, and so he signed into Twitter and blasted out some absurdity. Didn't tell his press staff, didn't tell the Pentagon, didn't consult with anybody, he caught all of the federal government by surprise. Yes, he's the commander in chief, the most vaguely defined position in the world. He still has a chain of command, and Twitter is not part of it.

You know how we feel about the order itself. Transgender people are just people. There is no point in discriminating against them. I don't even need to make the case for that. Here, this is fascinating, look at the Republicans speak out: The Daily 202: Growing GOP backlash to transgender troop ban underscores Trump’s political miscalculation.

The important part here is: this is not how we do things. The United States has a Constitution. We have well thought-out branches of government, processes for deliberating new policies. Our representatives debate and discuss and vote on things. America does not have a king. We do not have a guy who gets up in the morning and makes capricious decisions and the millions of federal employees, including the military, just do whatever he says.

You will note that Joint Chiefs of Staff are ignoring the tweets. Marine General Joe Dunford sent out a notice: “There will be no modifications to the current policy until the President's direction has been received by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary has issued implementation guidance.” Because that is the way we do things.

I understand Trump not knowing how it works. He doesn't know anything about how government works, and doesn't want to know. In the meantime, this is not a "new policy." Government decisions are not announced on Twitter, by one guy. This is one idiot talking off the top of his head. He has his reasons for changing the subject and he found a hot-button issue to make everybody's head spin. Nobody wants to discriminate against trans people, it just isn't a viable position any more. Too much progress has been made and we're not going back. Even staunch Republicans have realized that people they know are trans, people they count on, including as many as 15,500 transgender people in the military already.

The guy is allowed to blow off steam on the Internet, no problem. His tweets are entertaining and at least we have some idea where he's coming from. But he is the President of the United States, and in that function he is bound by the Constitution and the rule of law. No matter how much they wish it in the red states, the US is not a dictatorship. Yet.

171 Comments:

Anonymous wwhen will they ever learn? said...

"The President got up in the morning and decided he needed to distract us from his plan to fire his Attorney General and special counsel, distract us from the fact that the Russia investigation is getting very close to him and his finances and his business associates, distract us from noticing that he and his staff are a crime mob, and so he signed into Twitter and blasted out some absurdity. Didn't tell his press staff, didn't tell the Pentagon, didn't consult with anybody, he caught all of the federal government by surprise."

he really is a piece of work, ain't he?

just think

if Dems had gotten behind anyone but Hillary, this could all be different

when will you people admit what a grievous error you made?

you turned your back on the blue collar union worker in the Rust belt, wanted to make the killing of viable children a constitutional right, and force minority children in the inner city to attend dangerous hellholes called public school

when will you understand why you lost?

July 27, 2017 9:55 PM  
Anonymous Both Eyes Open said...

It is interesting to think of why Hillary is so repulsive to you. After decades of attacks, investigations that found nothing, fake news ripping at her health, her character, her appearance, just about everybody grew apprehensive about her. I don't think you could actually name anything she did that you disagreed with or that you think could have been done better. She was a good candidate, experienced, smart, connected, knowledgeable, but you had people making lists of the people she had killed, accusing her of human trafficking in children, secretly aiding terrorists, acting like having your own email server is a crime... good job, you destroyed a perfectly decent human being. She was a fine candidate and would have done a great job. If dumb people wanted reality TV in Washington, then ok, they got their way, there you go. Treason, corruption, disruption, disorganization, lying, backbiting ... never have we seen depravity on this scale in this country.

July 27, 2017 10:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is interesting to think of why Hillary is so repulsive to you"

what I find interesting is how you let your imagination run away with you

I don't find Hillary "repulsive" at all, I kind of like her

it's just as a Presidential candidate, she was ridiculous

she had a number of previous offices and responsibilities, obtained solely on the basis of marriage, and failed miserably in each

and this time around, she pandered to every leftist special interest around, in desperation to beat the most beatable of candidates: first an elderly socialist and then a tacky Vegas-style reality TV star, eight years after losing to a community organizer who had never had a real job other than running for President

to site one particularly odious position, she promised to nominate judges who would make the killing of unborn children, well past viability and up to birth, a constitutional right

the Dem party, one of two organizations traditionally charged with providing one of two acceptable candidates for President, let the country down

"Treason, corruption, disruption, disorganization, lying, backbiting ... never have we seen depravity on this scale in this country"

true, this description of the Clinton Foundation shows they were in first as the worst

July 28, 2017 7:52 AM  
Anonymous Both Eyes Open said...

Nice try, anon. There are some voters who choose their candidate based on abortion policy, luckily not many. Almost all women recognize the importance of being able to have that choice, and that is half the voter base right there. Your stereotyping of the Clinton Foundation is a perfect example of what I am talking about. They were hounded by the fake news and rightwing press, when in fact they are one of the most respectable charities out there. The Trump Foundation is the comparison point, a regular mafia organization.

Not going to argue any more about it. You bought the propaganda and created your reality out of it. Sorry that happened, the country is a sort of mess right now. It looks like the trolls will be able to keep it in bad shape and the rubes in the heartland will eat it up.

BTW, congratulations to all of us for the win last night on healthcare. Great idea the GOP Senators had, to propose a bill that they themselves couldn't stand and hope the House wouldn't adopt it. Luckily there were a couple of reasonable members.

July 28, 2017 8:34 AM  
Anonymous GOP and Trump, both are epic failures said...

In shocker, Senate Republicans fail to strip health care from millions in dead of night

July 28, 2017 8:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There are some voters who choose their candidate based on abortion policy, luckily not many. Almost all women recognize the importance of being able to have that choice, and that is half the voter base right there."

you're wrong

most women don't consider late-term abortion to be a constitutional right

regardless, it was definitely one of the key issues that swung the election to Trump

pro-family advocates were motivated

without them and blue-collar union workers, Trump would have lost

"Your stereotyping of the Clinton Foundation is a perfect example of what I am talking about"

uh, they were taking money from nastier governments than Russia while she was Secretary of State, charged with formulating our policy toward such regimes

it's much worse than any of the dubious charges about Trump campaign officials "talking" to Russians

let us know when you find out the Russian government was giving money to Trump during this period

"Not going to argue any more about it"

yeah, that's your best move

you're in waaaaay over your head

"In shocker, Senate Republicans fail to strip health care from millions in dead of night"

classic Orwellianism

making people free to decide what insurance they want to buy, if any, is "stripping" it from them

July 28, 2017 9:52 AM  
Anonymous Poor little troll said...

What a sore loser.

Go sit on the potty and tweet your political woes to your heart's content just like your hero, the shitter twitter pussy grabber does.

He was going to repeal and replace Obamacare the first day, maybe the first hour.

"My first day in office, I am going to ask Congress to put a bill on my desk getting rid of this disastrous law and replacing it with reforms that expand choice, freedom, affordability. [Sanford, FL, 10/25/16]"
-- video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSGtLW_F1LQ

A month later Trump: 'Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated'
-- here's the URL
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/321318-trump-nobody-knew-that-healthcare-could-be-so-complicated
for paranoid types

The Democrats knew healthcare was complicated as it involves one sixth of the US economy.

That's why the Democrats held hundreds of hearings for more than a year to work out the details in Obamacare from 2009-2010.

It's a good system and has covered millions more American citizens than ever had health insurance before.

Trump should quit undermining the insurance companies with his threats to quit collecting the taxes needed to fund the subsidies that make insurance affordable to millions of American citizens.

And here you are again, defending his arrogant idiocy as usual.

Sad!

July 28, 2017 11:20 AM  
Anonymous Nevertheless, she persisted said...

Trump, who won Alaska by 15 points, ripped the state’s senior senator on Twitter Wednesday after she opposed a key procedural motion to open debate on health care:

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The crowd in Ohio was amazing last night - broke all records. We all had a great time in a great State. Will be back soon!

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Senator @lisamurkowski of the Great State of Alaska really let the Republicans, and our country, down yesterday. Too bad!
7:13 AM - Jul 26, 2017

Later that day, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke called Murkowski and the state’s other Republican senator, Dan Sullivan, to threaten that the Trump administration may change its position on several issues that affect the state to punish Murkowski, such as blocking energy exploration and plans to allow the construction of new roads. “The message was pretty clear,” Sullivan told the Alaska Dispatch News.

Nevertheless, Murkowski persisted. In fact, she took it one step further and demonstrated that she has more leverage over Zinke than he has over her. As chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, Murkowski indefinitely postponed a nominations markup that the Interior Department badly wants.

This demonstrated the degree to which Zinke’s ham-handed phone call was political malpractice. The secretary, or whoever at the White House ordered him to make the calls, clearly doesn’t understand the awesome power that comes with being the chairman of a Senate committee. Only an amateur would threaten the person who has oversight over his agency! If she wants, Murkowski can make Zinke’s life so unbelievably miserable. He has no idea. (The Interior Department did not respond to requests for comment.)

A Murkowski spokeswoman denied that putting off the hearing was revenge or retaliation. Even if you believe that, and color us skeptical, postponing the hearing sent a crystal-clear message to the administration that she is not to be messed with. “I base my votes on what I believe is in Alaska's best interest,” Murkowski told reporters, with a smile.

Senators serve six-year terms, so they’re more insulated from pressure than representatives who are up every two years. Murkowski, who easily won a fourth term last year, is not up again until 2022, when Trump may no longer be president.

July 28, 2017 12:37 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Anon July 27 9:55pm on unborn fetuses complained:

"wanted to make the killing of viable children a constitutional right"

Anon July 27 11:57am on trans people minimized:

"I wouldn't minimize the horror of murder but it happens daily, all over the world, thousands of times"

Oh the dichotomy.

July 28, 2017 1:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Oh the dichotomy"

what a cincocrite!

first, thinks the murder of a transgender is somehow worse than and should be more severely dealt with than the murder of decent folk

now, doesn't see the difference between making the murder of children a constitutional right and recognizing that all murderers should receive justice not just transgender murderers

what do you expect from someone who viciously slurs the disabled?

and, then, when request for apology is made, cynco is at a lost for words!!

July 28, 2017 2:16 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

No idiot.

I just think it's ridiculous how you get all bent out of shape when someone kills a fetus, and then pass off the murder of trans people like it's no big deal because "it happens daily, all over the world, thousands of times"

You don't really care about fetuses, or anyone else's life. You just like like using the abortion issue as a bludgeon against liberals, because many of them realize it is medically necessary under certain circumstances.

You lament how minorities get "unconstitutional special protections" when someone murders them because of hate crime laws.

Yet not a peep about how promiscuous heterosexuals get abortions with impunity. Not even community service. Talk about a "special protection."

And I didn't "viciously slur the disabled." I gratuitously slurred you.

I have worked with and tutored those with learning disabilities and on the autism spectrum. You are not anything like them. They behave far better than you do.

I could be wrong though. Perhaps you are learning or emotionally disabled in a way that I am not familiar with. That would explain a lot. If that is the case, have one of your parents type here and explain your situation and I will give you the full apology you deserve.

But having dealt with Christians for many years, I think you are just one of the many belligerent psychopaths who enjoy bullying minorities so they can build their own self esteem, and then cry "victim" when someone treats them in the same way they treat the aforementioned minorities.

I'm just not stupid enough to play your little victim game.

If you can't stand the heat, stop poking the fire in the kitchen.

Or, you could consider playing nicely with the other kids.

But we all know that's never going to happen.

You do not have my Cynpathy.






July 28, 2017 3:26 PM  
Anonymous i think i lost it, let me know if you come across it said...

"No idiot"

well, maybe you aren't

but you're acting like one

"I just think it's ridiculous how you get all bent out of shape when someone kills a fetus, and then pass off the murder of trans people like it's no big deal because "it happens daily, all over the world, thousands of times""

well, you've completely twisted what I said there

if you really don't know how, let me know and I'll explain it

"You don't really care about fetuses, or anyone else's life"

what I care about is that everyone's life be protected

"You just like like using the abortion issue as a bludgeon against liberals, because many of them realize it is medically necessary under certain circumstances"

please, most liberals favor it regardless of circumstance

I have no problem when an abortion is necessary to save the mother's life

as you know, I was referring to Hillary wanting abortion to be a constitutional right throughout the entire pregnancy

you also are aware that many liberals use mental stress as a "health issue" to justify killing unborn kids

"You lament how minorities get "unconstitutional special protections" when someone murders them because of hate crime laws"

lamenting? is that what you call advocating for equal human rights?

there is no reason laws against murder aren't adequate to cover everyone

to give certain groups more protection than others is a problem

"Yet not a peep about how promiscuous heterosexuals get abortions with impunity. Not even community service. Talk about a "special protection.""

are you insane? I thought I've peeped quite a lot about how evil abortion is to enable the pleasure and convenience of "promiscuous heterosexuals"

"And I didn't "viciously slur the disabled." I gratuitously slurred you."

actually, when you use "retarded" as an epithet, you insult all mentally disabled individuals

do you really not understand that?

"I have worked with and tutored those with learning disabilities and on the autism spectrum. You are not anything like them. They behave far better than you do."

they're like everyone else, except for their disability

they're individuals

some behave well, some behave like you

your generalization is another insult to them

"I think you are just one of the many belligerent psychopaths who enjoy bullying minorities"

oh, and I guess you think you're a minority

"so they can build their own self esteem, and then cry "victim" when someone treats them in the same way they treat the aforementioned minorities"

actually, as I've explained, I don't feel victimized

I just pointed out that you've insulted disabled people

and you still haven't apologized

you're just at a lost for words

July 28, 2017 6:59 PM  
Anonymous Your Hands Off Me said...

Anon, here's a question for you. Obviously you are male. If you're married, has your wife ever had an abortion? Did any partner of yours before her have one?

Are you sure?

Ask her. Let us know.

July 28, 2017 7:11 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Ok Moron, let me spell it out for you;

This is what I wrote:

"if I said all the retarded stuff you did, I wouldn't want people knowing who I was either"

Here is what dictionary.com says:

retarded:

adjective
1.
characterized by a slowness or limitation in intellectual understanding and awareness, emotional development, academic progress, etc.
2.
Slang. stupid or foolish.
noun
3.
(used with a plural verb) people who are slow or limited in mental development (usually preceded by the):
new schools for the retarded.

The only one which fits the usage of "retarded stuff" is number 2: stupid or foolish, as in "stupid stuff you did."

I carefully worded what I wrote to avoid referring to anyone but you.

"actually, when you use "retarded" as an epithet, you insult all mentally disabled individuals"

Someone who can't use periods really shouldn't try to school people on language.

I didn't use "retarded" as an epithet. I used it as an adjective for "stuff." To use it as an epithet, someone would have to call you a "retard," or say that YOU were "retarded." But nobody did that, and thus no one insulted mentally challenged people.

When I want to use an epithet for you, I will pick one and use it, like "bloviating blowhard," "witless wanker," or "sycophantic psychopath." I'm a big fan of alliteration, and it should make it easier for you to tell when I'm lobbing an epithet at you. But just to make it easy for you, sometimes I'll refer to you as something like "Moron.". You're welcome.

There are plenty more words like that where those came from. Just let me know if you'd like to see them.

Here are some free periods for your next post:

............................

.........
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...............

:P
XD


July 28, 2017 7:58 PM  
Anonymous if you don't get it, you don't get it ! said...

it's fascinating watching Cynco try to weaselly rationalize the thundering insult to the mentally disabled

since Cynco only seems to have empathy for the perverted, let me splain in deviant terms:

to use "retarded" as a negative adjective for "stuff" would be the equivalent of using "gay" as a negative adjective

except, the mentally disabled don't deserve your contempt

Cynco is not only at a lost for words, but at a lost for thoughts as well

that's so gay!!

July 29, 2017 8:17 AM  
Anonymous What I've seen here is ugly said...

Simply put, Cynthia has no shame.

July 29, 2017 8:22 AM  
Anonymous Slinko Watts said...

"Cynco is not only at a lost for words, but at a lost for thoughts as well"

How about at a lost for common decency?

Just sayin'....

July 29, 2017 8:26 AM  
Anonymous Just do it said...

Cynthia's words were as clear as your misconstrual of them.

Vigilance readers note reading comprehension remains difficult for you.

Clearly TTF's troll is the one who insults groups of people and has for about a decade now.

The evidence of that is here on Vigilance for all the world to see.

July 29, 2017 8:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cynco used "retarded" as a negative adjective

didn't even deny it

that's so gay !!

and shameless...

lunatic fringe gay advocates will defend anything in service of the gay agenda

July 29, 2017 9:37 AM  
Anonymous Welcome to Failure Friday said...

In the end it was just three Republican Senators who voted against healthcare reform but it was enough to stop the bill in its tracks. Now the GOP faces a reckoning with an embarrassing failure in Congress and a failing Presidency.

If you want to know what failure looks like, take a look at the last 36 hours of the Trump Presidency.

President Trump tried to lay blame for the healthcare failure at the feet of three Republicans and Democrats but in the end he wasn’t able to keep his party unified and failed to deliver on a key campaign promise for his base.

The President has failed in his attempts to bully his attorney general into resigning. Jeff Sessions vowing to stay on as long as Trump sees that as appropriate.

The President did succeed in unifying practically all of Washington against his treatment of the Attorney General.

The President has failed in his attempt to change the conversation with his tweets, banning transgender troops from the military. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying the Pentagon will not make any changes to its transgender policy until Trump clarifies what he meant. Quote in the meantime we will continue to treat all of our personnel with respect, in effect saying No, Mr. President, no.

And the President even managed to fail with his address to the Boy Scouts of America. The head of the group now apologizing to its members for the President’s rhetoric.

July 29, 2017 12:07 PM  
Anonymous Your Hands Off Me said...

Anon I was actually serious. You have a strong opinion about abortion, why don't you share with us your family's history with it? Wife, sister, mother, tell us what it was like, maybe it will help us understand why you are so bitter about it.

July 29, 2017 12:19 PM  
Anonymous Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal editorial board said...

"President Trump announced late Friday on Twitter—how else?—that he is replacing White House chief of staff Reince Priebus with Homeland Security secretary John Kelly. The decision was probably inevitable given how the President publicly humiliated Mr. Priebus in recent days, but this shuffling of the staff furniture won’t matter unless Mr. Trump accepts that the White House problem isn’t Mr. Priebus. It’s him.

Presidents get the White House operations they want, and Mr. Trump has a chaotic mess because he seems to like it. He likes pitting faction against faction, as if his advisers are competing casino operators from his Atlantic City days. But a presidential Administration is a larger undertaking than a family business, and the infighting and competing leaks have created a dysfunctional White House.

Perhaps Mr. Kelly, a retired Marine general, can impose some order on the staff. But then that’s what Anthony Scaramucci was supposed to do for the communications team, only to blow up in adolescent fashion this week by trashing Mr. Priebus and others in public. White House leakers then let it be known that Mr. Trump liked Mr. Scaramucci’s X-rated rant.

The reason Mr. Priebus wasn’t as effective as he could have been is because Mr. Trump wouldn’t listen to him and wouldn’t let him establish a normal decision-making process. Mr. Trump has a soft spot for military men so perhaps he’ll listen more to Mr. Kelly. He’d better, because on present course his Presidency is careening toward a historic reputation where names like Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon reside."

July 29, 2017 2:30 PM  
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Good anonymous asked "Anon, here's a question for you. Obviously you are male. If you're married, has your wife ever had an abortion? Did any partner of yours before her have one?".

Wyatt is single, he's not sexually attracted to women, he's a closeted self-loathing gay man who symbolically attacks the part of himself he can't accept by attacking other gays.

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July 30, 2017 1:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anon I was actually serious. You have a strong opinion about abortion, why don't you share with us your family's history with it? Wife, sister, mother, tell us what it was like, maybe it will help us understand why you are so bitter about it."

hey, don't know if you're a regular commenter here but I never reveal any personal information

the problem is that radicals who post here will latch on to any little bit of information to launch into personal attacks to distract from the bankruptcy of their position

it's sad it has to be that way but, you know, argument by anecdote is often misleading anyway

I could, for example, say I ate a bag of popcorn at the movies last night and these nuts would spend years discussing what a glutton I am

all to distract from an argument that is absolutely indefensible:

that the pleasure and convenience of potential parents constitutes a right that is more important than the life of a defenseless child

I'm not a Catholic but Mother Theresa had a couple of clear statements that cut through the moral fog:

"It is a moral bankruptcy to think that a child must die so that we can live as we wish"

"In any society, when it becomes alright to kill your own children, it is difficult to see how it continues to qualify as a civilization"

July 30, 2017 1:54 AM  
Anonymous Your Hands Off Me said...

It's easy to judge stereotypes and people you don't know. Ask your wife and your sister about how they decided to have their abortion, about the resistance they faced, ask them about the assholes outside the clinic. Ask them if they regret it. Give them a hug.

Ask them what they think about people like you judging them for their choice. You don't have to report all the details here, a simple "I'm sorry" would be appreciated. And cessation of the judgment of the people who have had to make such a hard choice and have more balls than you do.

July 30, 2017 9:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's easy to judge stereotypes and people you don't know"

actually, I don't remember making any judgment about any individual

every person, however, has to judge what actions are right and wrong

any time you opine on right or wrong, it would obviously be offensive to those who have done that which judge to have been wrong

the alternative, however, would be an amoral world where no one is protected

what about if the kid in six months old and the parents think, "hey, we can't afford this kid and we'll never be able to get our degree and, geez, we can't even go to the movies?"

would it be judgmental to say it should be illegal to kill the kid?

what's the difference between that and a kid that will be born in a week?

"the assholes outside the clinic"

nice way to characterize those trying to save lives

"the people who have had to make such a hard choice and have more balls than you do"

gee, why does the victim not get a say?

because, we know they'd chose to live

these people you say are making a "hard choice" all had mothers who chose not to kill them

and, you're right, it takes balls to kill someone

just ask any murderer

July 30, 2017 11:50 AM  
Anonymous Your Hands Off Me said...

Ask them. Don't sit here at your computer trying to moralize about something you are completely ignorant about.

This is about people. Ask your wife how she decided to get an abortion. Ask your sister. Ask your mother. Really, and I mean really, nobody gives a fuck what you think about it.

July 30, 2017 12:42 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "hey, don't know if you're a regular commenter here but I never reveal any personal information".

That's a lie. Wyatt/bad anonymous has described some of his holidays, a bit about his job, and some of his business dealings.

He described hiking through Europe and looking at wineries and thinking about investing in them because he could write it off his income tax.

He talked about scuba diving in the Carribean and drinking rum.

He talked about being at work and not being able to post because he was on the factory floor and the boss was watching him like a hawk.

When Wyatt/bad anonymous talks about his holidays he always says "I did this, I did that", never "we did this, we did that".

He doesn't talk about his personal life often but when he does its clear he has no wife or children.

July 30, 2017 1:57 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "you turned your back on the blue collar union worker in the Rust belt, wanted to make the killing of viable children a constitutional right, and force minority children in the inner city to attend dangerous hellholes called public school when will you understand why you lost?"

We understand why Hillary lost all right, and those lies aren't it. She lost because the partisan Comey made a big public deal of out an investigation into Hillary that meant nothing and didn't reveal the investigation into Trump. She lost because Republicans suppressed minority votes in the sleaziest most disgusting manner. She lost because the Russians colluded with the Trump campaign allowing them to target critical counties with thousands of Russian hackers spreading lies about Hillary. She lost because of an antiquated Electoral College system that say Trump getting declared president despite losing the popular vote by 3 million.

Obviously Democrats were the champions of minorities and workers in the rust belt. Trump is going to deprive them of health care, let them get sick and die, and will defund public schools instead of funding them properly as Hillary would have done.

July 30, 2017 2:09 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "I don't find Hillary "repulsive" at all, I kind of like her it's just as a Presidential candidate, she was ridiculous".

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You voted for Trump and you call Hillary ridiculous! That's Hilarious! You voted for the man you said you feared would destroy the Republic soley because he'd appoint anti-gay Supreme court judges and you assert Hillary is ridiculous!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha!

July 30, 2017 2:13 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "most women don't consider late-term abortion to be a constitutional right regardless, it was definitely one of the key issues that swung the election to Trump".

Late term abortions comprise a tiny fraction of abortions and are almost always done to save the life of the mother. The abortion issue had nothing to do with Trump winning despite losing the popular vote.

She lost because the partisan Comey made a big public deal of out an investigation into Hillary that meant nothing and didn't reveal the investigation into Trump. She lost because Republicans suppressed minority votes in the sleaziest most disgusting manner. She lost because the Russians colluded with the Trump campaign allowing them to target critical counties with thousands of Russian hackers spreading lies about Hillary. She lost because of an antiquated Electoral College system that say Trump getting declared president despite losing the popular vote by 3 million.

July 30, 2017 2:17 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "making people free to decide what insurance they want to buy, if any, is "stripping" it from them".

Classic Orwellianism.

When you allow insurance companies to deny coverage to millions with pre-existing conditions and strip the subsidies that allow people to afford health insurance that's not "freedom", that's stripping people of coverage and creating a humanitarian disaster. Trumpcare will result in tens of thousands of needless deaths and millions living a poorer quality of life than necessary and evil Republicans like Wyatt want to call that "freedom".

July 30, 2017 2:22 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "first, thinks the murder of a transgender is somehow worse than and should be more severely dealt with than the murder of decent folk now, doesn't see the difference between making the murder of children a constitutional right and recognizing that all murderers should receive justice not just transgender murderers".

Thats a classic example of the "straw man logical fallacy". No one said the muders of transpeople are worse or should be more severely delt with than others and no one suggested that only murders of transpeople should get justice. As you can see from the above comment of Wyatt/bad anonymous, it is he who wants to diminish the justice transpeople get, he says they are not "decent folk" despite them harming no one.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "what do you expect from someone who viciously slurs the disabled? and, then, when request for apology is made, cynco is at a lost for words!!"

She referred to you as retarded, she wasn't talking about disabled people. And as we can see in your above comment, it is you who is constantly slurring her by bastardizing her name Cynthia. Typical Wyatt projection - accuse others of your own worst characteristics.

July 30, 2017 2:32 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Cynthia said "But having dealt with Christians for many years, I think you are just one of the many belligerent psychopaths who enjoy bullying minorities so they can build their own self esteem, and then cry "victim" when someone treats them in the same way they treat the aforementioned minorities.".

NAILED IT!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

July 30, 2017 2:35 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "what I care about is that everyone's life be protected".

Another one of Wyatt/bad anonymous's giant lies.

Wyatt/bad anonymous has supported laws in other countries that imprison and/or execute people for having same sex sex.

He praised India's re-instatment of the criminalization of gays. In Uganda he said he agreed that there should be increasing punishment for every time a gay person has same sex sex.

He said "in the U.S., you can be executed for doing nothing in Iran, you have to commit a serious crime, like homosexuality"

July 30, 2017 2:39 PM  
Anonymous he who worries TTFers said...

"Ask them. Don't sit here at your computer"

this is a blog

if you have an issue with computers, go to the local pub and advocate the murder of children

let us know how you make out

"trying to moralize about something you are completely ignorant about"

ah, you think someone can't be opposed to murder unless they have had experience having good reason to kill someone

got it

"This is about people"

yes, it is

it's about people who decide that their pleasure and convenience is more important than the life of a child

what do you call such people?

let's call them Democrites

"Really, and I mean really, nobody gives a fuck what you think about it."

oh, I can tell

that's why you're getting so worked up

you don't care!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

did you see Priya?

eight straight posts of ranting

guess Priya doesn't care either

July 30, 2017 4:23 PM  
Anonymous idk ha ha said...

"guess Priya doesn't care either"

haha

that's funny!!

July 30, 2017 4:43 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Awwwwww, that's so cute!

Retarded Wyatt/bad anonymous actually thinks he's fooling people by pretending to be more than one person!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

July 30, 2017 5:16 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous pretending (as he often does) to be two different people said "guess Priya doesn't care either".

Oh, I care all right, I was just waiting for the right time to post the following:

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "please, most liberals favor [abortion] regardless of circumstance".

An absurd lie.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "I have no problem when an abortion is necessary to save the mother's life".

Another giant lie. Earlier in this thread alone Wyatt/bad anonymous condemned late term abortions, saying "most women don't consider late-term abortion to be a constitutional right". The vast majority of late term abortions are done to save the mother's life

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "as you know, I was referring to Hillary wanting abortion to be a constitutional right throughout the entire pregnancy".

An absurd lie.

Cynthia said "You lament how minorities get "unconstitutional special protections" when someone murders them because of hate crime laws"

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "lamenting? is that what you call advocating for equal human rights?".

Liar.

You don't advocate for equal human rights. Quite the opposite, you oppose equal human rights, you oppose gays having the same right to marry and adopt as heterosexuals, you oppose LGBT people having the same rights as christians not to be fired from their jobs, evicted from their homes, or denied service, you advocate for laws to imprison and execute innocent LGBT people.

July 30, 2017 5:17 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "there is no reason laws against murder aren't adequate to cover everyone to give certain groups more protection than others is a problem".

Wrong. When a person is killed because they are a member of a despised group of people there are two victims. The immediate victim of the crime and the broader community that the victim is a member of. Hate crimes don't just harm an individual, they terrorize the community that the victim belongs to, hence the need for punishment not just for the immediate crime but punishment for the terrorizing of the community the victim belongs to. Hate crimes laws don't give LGBT people more protections than heterosexuals - if a heterosexual was attacked because they were heterosexual that would be a hate crime as well, both gays and heterosexuals are treated equally under hate crimes laws.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "are you insane? I thought I've peeped quite a lot about how evil abortion is to enable the pleasure and convenience of "promiscuous heterosexuals".

Liar. You have NEVER before stated "how evil abortion is to enable the pleasure and convenience of promiscuous heterosexuals".

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "actually, when you use "retarded" as an epithet, you insult all mentally disabled individuals do you really not understand that?".

Pot, kettle, black.
No one has insulted more people on this board than you, by a very, very long shot.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "to use "retarded" as a negative adjective for "stuff" would be the equivalent of using "gay" as a negative adjective".

You're such a hypocrite (I know, BIG surprise, lol). You use "gay" as a negative adjective repeatedly.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "that's so gay!!".

And there you go, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha!
Hypocrite.

July 30, 2017 5:18 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "you know, argument by anecdote is often misleading anyway".

LOL, no one argues by anecdote more than you! Note for example your constant pointing out of isolated cold spots on earth at certain points in time while ignoring the totality of information that shows the planet as a whole is warming over the last 200 years.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "that the pleasure and convenience of potential parents constitutes a right that is more important than the life of a defenseless child".

You're a liar, no one said that. A fetus by law is not a child, not a person. A zygote is human in the same way my fingernail is human and neither is in any sense a person. A person can think, feel pain, has emotions, desires, and goals. In the early stages of pregnancy the life you disonestly refer to as a "child" has none of these things. I believe that as a pregnancy progresses abortion becomes more problematic however as a practical matter we define the beginning of personhood as birth and there is no more appropriate dividing line. Just as you don't have a right to demand your mother donate her kidney to you to save your life, a fetus does not have a right to use a pregnant woman's body to survive. A person's bodily autonomy comes first, no one, not even a fetus, has a right to another person's body.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said I'm not a Catholic but Mother Theresa had a couple of clear statements that cut through the moral fog: "It is a moral bankruptcy to think that a child must die so that we can live as we wish" "In any society, when it becomes alright to kill your own children, it is difficult to see how it continues to qualify as a civilization".

Mother Theresa was as big a liar as you, as explained above, a pregnancy is not a person.

There are few who were in more of a moral fog than Mother Theresa:
"Suffering is not a punishment, nor a fruit of sin; it is a gift of god. He allows us to share in his suffering and to make up for the sins of the world"
.

She raised millions of dollars but didn't use it to alleviate suffering. She had the sick lie on concrete platforms instead of in soft beads and denied them treatment of their pain because she thought suffering was beautiful.

July 30, 2017 5:19 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "actually, I don't remember making any judgment about any individual".

Wyatt lies as easily as he breaths. He OBVIOUSLY remembers frequently accusing LGBT people and TTF commenters of being mentally ill and immoral. It takes one sick individual to judge healthy,innocent people as harshly and frequently as Wyatt/bad anonymous does and then to absurdly claim he doesn't remember doing so.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "any time you opine on right or wrong, it would obviously be offensive to those who have done that which judge to have been wrong".

Not true. Good people like me and the other pro-family commenters here at TTF are willing to admit we aren't perfect and have done wrong. It is you however who repeatedly accuses innocent LGBT people of wrongdoing. Obviously your constant accusations against innocent people are offensive and no one is wrongly taking offense to your slurs.

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "what about if the kid in six months old and the parents think, "hey, we can't afford this kid and we'll never be able to get our degree and, geez, we can't even go to the movies?" would it be judgmental to say it should be illegal to kill the kid what's the difference between that and a kid that will be born in a week?".

As no one ever has an abortion of a child that will be born in a week that is a straw man. The question is what is the difference between that six month old child and a zygote? A great deal. A zygote is human in the same way my fingernail is human and neither is in any sense a person. A person can think, feel pain, has emotions, desires, and goals. In the early stages of pregnancy the life you disonestly refer to as a "child" has none of these things. I believe that as a pregnancy progresses abortion becomes more problematic however as a practical matter we define the beginning of personhood as birth and there is no more appropriate dividing line. Just as you don't have a right to demand your mother donate her kidney to you to save your life, a fetus does not have a right to use a pregnant woman's body to survive. A person's bodily autonomy comes first, no one, not even a fetus, has a right to another person's body.

July 30, 2017 5:19 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Cynthia said "the assholes outside the clinic"

Wyatt/bad anonymous said "nice way to characterize those trying to save lives".

Anyone who tries to deny a woman bodily autonomy is an asshole. Anti-abortionists by and large don't give a damn about abortions. Their real agenda is to punish women for having sex that isn't intended for procreation, and to deny women the right to control their own bodies.

July 30, 2017 5:20 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Irony:

People waving Confederate flags and telling others "You lost. Get over it.".

July 30, 2017 7:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7 more evil rants by Priya on top of 8 earlier ones

desperate cries for attention, with no substantive points to make

July 30, 2017 8:15 PM  
Anonymous Your Hands Off Me said...

Anon your moralizing is sickening. I am saying: ask a woman about her abortion. Listen to her story. Until then you are just a sickening hypocrite, making horrifying decisions that other people have to to abide by. Ask your daughter about her abortion. See if she tells you that her "pleasure and convenience is more important than the life of a child." Ask your wife about the time she needed one -- did she tell you? Maybe it's time. Ask your mother about her abortion.

Don't be surprised if she doesn't want to talk to you about it.

July 30, 2017 8:57 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

"Cynthia said "the assholes outside the clinic"

Nope. That wasn't me, Priya.

I've been more prickly lately.

Been busy this weekend, and I haven't had time to get back to the banter.

Cyn

July 30, 2017 9:09 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Sorry Cynthia.

July 30, 2017 9:25 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt is single, he's not sexually attracted to women, he's a closeted self-loathing gay man who symbolically attacks the part of himself he can't accept by attacking other gays.

July 30, 2017 9:35 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Good anonymous said "Anon your moralizing is sickening. I am saying: ask a woman about her abortion. Listen to her story...".

There's no point in trying to get Wyatt/bad anonymous to think about or re-consider the positions he's taken - he's here just to troll. He'll just take delight in refusing to give you the honest give and take discussion you ask for.

July 30, 2017 9:44 PM  
Anonymous Your Hands Off Me said...

Yes, Priya Lynn, I can see that. But people like him cause so much pain and do so much damage. One woman in three in the US has had an abortion, and that includes women that assholes like Anon know and love, too.

I understand that he probably does not communicate very well with women but I believe the solution to the problem is for people like him to actually ask a woman "why did you do that? What was it like?" And to hear the explanation. His moralistic summary is revolting.

July 30, 2017 9:51 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Some people don't feel empathy for others. They may talk a good show about empathy and ethics even though they don't feel bound by those things themselves and think people who do live by them are fools. They talk this show in order to manipulate others to get what they want.

I agree Wyatt/bad anonymous's moral summary is revolting. Particularly because he has no ethics himself.

If you want to engage him, I believe it is worthwhile to do so not because there is any hope of him repenting, but because others who read who are on the fence are open to moral and ethical arguments.

July 31, 2017 12:37 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

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July 31, 2017 2:11 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Research shows internet trolling is correlated with sadism and psychopathy

Its pretty obvious Wyatt/bad anonymous is a troll, this comment by him is a classic example of trolling:

"to use "retarded" as a negative adjective for "stuff" would be the equivalent of using "gay" as a negative adjective... Cynco is not only at a lost for words, but at a lost for thoughts as well

that's so gay!!"

A sincere person doesn't complain how one shouldn't use "retarded" or "gay" as negative adjectives and then do just that. The only people who do that sort of thing are those who aren't sincere and are here only to get a rise out of people because that's what gives them pleasure.

I understand your desire to try to reach him to get him to stop doing the damage he does to women. I hope I'm wrong about him and he does have a concern for others you can appeal to him through.

July 31, 2017 2:26 AM  
Anonymous Predator-in-Chief said...

It’s been a while since we heard from TPM Reader LC, a cop from the tri-state area who shared various of his views with us when the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri dominated the national news. After President Trump asked cops to rough up arrestees in their custody, he wrote in yesterday …

"I’m ef'ing furious.

This two-bit gangster, would-be dictator just set police-community relations back by a quarter of a century.

“When you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over,” he mimicked an officer putting a handcuffed person in the back of a squad car, the officer’s hand over the suspect’s head. “Like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody? Don’t hit their head?”

“I said, you can take the hand away, OK?” he concluded, to laughter, and then loud applause.”

The reaction of officers in the room to the President’s words as described is troubling and embarrassing. Any officer who causes injury to a person in custody is open internal disciplinary charges, criminal Assault charges, Official Misconduct, and Federal civil rights violations, as well as civil liability. This is NOT the Wild West, as POTUS seems to imagine.

Police Officers are not judge and jury. We do not meet out punishment. Every person has the constitutional right to a presumption of innocence. We are authorized to use minimum force necessary to take a person into custody. Once in custody, police are responsible for the health and well-being of the arrestee.

I would direct the POTUS to the definition of the word “custody”"



July 31, 2017 6:43 AM  
Anonymous Thank you Dr. McGinn said...

"A former Navy surgeon said that because of President Donald Trump’s announcement of a ban on transgender people serving in the armed services, she will waive the cost of gender confirmation surgery for some military personnel.

Dr. Christine McGinn, who is also transgender and was once nominated for the Navy’s flight surgeon of the year award, told CNN’s Michael Smerconish on Saturday that if the military won’t pay for its trans service members’ gender confirmation surgeries, any patients she already has scheduled for those operations will receive them for free.

“If the commander-in-chief won’t take care of our veterans, our veterans will. I will do surgery for free on the number of people that I have already lined up for surgery,” she said. She added that she’s “more than happy” to do so.

The scope of the transgender military ban, which Trump announced in a series of tweets on Wednesday, remains unclear. Military officials were caught off-guard about the policy change and said they were awaiting instruction on how to implement it. White House officials were unable to answer reporters’ questions on when the ban would go into effect and whether it would apply to current military members, leaving the fate of McGinn’s patients and thousands of others hanging in the balance.

“It’s obvious discrimination,” McGinn said. “I think any fifth-grader could see that.”

Trump claimed in his announcement that transgender service members “burdened” the military with “tremendous medical costs and disruption.” But as McGinn and many others have noted, the cost of caring for those personnel is a drop in the bucket of the military’s massive budget.

The military’s transition-related health care costs, for example, amounted to less than 10 percent of what it spent on erectile dysfunction prescriptions in 2014.

“I think it’s being twisted and spun to make it seem like it would be more than it is,” McGinn told CNN of Trump’s budget claims. “I think the cost of getting rid of very well specialized, trained military service people is exponentially larger than just taking care of them.”

Those that choose to have transition-related surgeries may only be out of work for a few weeks, she added.

“Most of my patients are back to work in six weeks, sometimes two weeks,” she said. “I think that this is getting inflated to make it a little more political.”"


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/doctor-free-transgender-surgery_us_597e0e1fe4b02a4ebb760a2f

July 31, 2017 7:57 AM  
Anonymous Trump threatens Congress said...

President Donald Trump declared war on Congress this past weekend: Both parties and both chambers, and including modestly paid Capitol Hill staffers. Not only that, he threatened to unilaterally rescind subsidies to help low-income Americans pay their health insurance premiums, potentially stripping millions of Americans of their coverage. In a Saturday tweetgasm, the Mad King blurted from his porcelain throne:

Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump

If a new HealthCare Bill is not approved quickly, BAILOUTS for Insurance Companies and BAILOUTS for Members of Congress will end very soon!

12:27 PM - Jul 29, 2017

July 31, 2017 8:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am saying: ask a woman about her abortion. Listen to her story. Until then you are just a sickening hypocrite, making horrifying decisions that other people have to to abide by"

let us know when you ask OJ about murdering his wife and listen to his story

until then you a sickening hypocrite for thinking murder should be against the law, making horrifying decisions that the Juice has to abide by



July 31, 2017 9:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"until then you a sickening hypocrite"

What a retarded statement from the TTF troll.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/21/bunny-ranch-brothel-offers-o-j-a-post-prison-job/

July 31, 2017 10:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you're the one who seems to think we need to have sympathy for those who have a reason, or a rationalization, to kill

July 31, 2017 1:26 PM  
Anonymous Your Hands Off Me said...

You're the one who believes that women should be forced to give birth, though you yourself will never do so.

July 31, 2017 1:29 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

And let's not forget that Wyatt/bad anonymous has condoned imprisoning and executing innocent LGBT people:

"in the U.S., you can be executed for doing nothing in Iran, you have to commit a serious crime, like homosexuality"

Wyatt/bad anonymous has no credibility when he claims he's opposed to murder.

Wyatt/bad anonymous absurdly claims its murder to abort a zygote which no more resembles a person than my fingernail does.

July 31, 2017 3:06 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/bad anonymous thinks a zygote that can't feel, love, laugh, that has no desires or goals is infinitely more valuable than a real person innocent of any wrongdoing.

July 31, 2017 3:11 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Bigots like Wyatt/bad anonymous aren't really concerned about abortion, their real goal is to see that women are punished by getting pregnant or getting a disease for having sex for pleasure.

July 31, 2017 3:16 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Jesus made me hate myself

July 31, 2017 3:17 PM  
Anonymous Toasted said...

Scaramucci style!

July 31, 2017 4:40 PM  
Anonymous Not a great day for Trump supporters said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ex-sheriff-joe-arpaio-convicted-of-criminal-contempt/2017/07/31/26d9572e-7620-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html

July 31, 2017 4:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see repeated references to "zygotes" above

please remember the discussion began as a discussion of why Hillary lost the election

she didn't think just "zygotes" could be aborted

her moral error was to extend this to the entire pregnancy, up to the moment of birth, and appoint judges who will make such abortions a constitutional right

right now, the SCOTUS only makes abortion a right until the unborn child is viable

a period of time that has shrunk considerably since 1973

"anonymous has condoned imprisoning and executing innocent LGBT people"

what hype!!

obviously, it would be more complicated than that

if they agreed to forsake perversion and turn in all their promiscuous friends, they could probably go free with a lot of community service and loss of their drivers' license

July 31, 2017 6:55 PM  
Anonymous licious said...

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman Rep. Ben Ray Luján (D-N.M.) said Monday that the party will not withhold funding from candidates that oppose abortion. "There is not a litmus test for Democratic candidates,"

July 31, 2017 8:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"if they agreed to forsake perversion and turn in all their promiscuous friends, they could probably go free with a lot of community service and loss of their drivers' license"

fair enough !

July 31, 2017 9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


So OT!

August 01, 2017 7:06 AM  
Anonymous Rasmussen -- "Most accurate poll" said...

Meanwhile, in the twenty-first century:

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 39% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Sixty-one percent (61%) disapprove.

The latest figures for Trump include 26% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 49% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -23. (see trends).

The latest findings mark the first time Trump’s overall approval rating has slipped below 40% in Rasmussen Reports tracking..."

Related:

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/31/poll-trumps-approval-rating-plummets-20-points-in-poll-he-called-most-accurate/23058320/

"Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

The new Rasmussen Poll, one of the most accurate in the 2016 Election, just out with a Trump 50% Approval Rating.That's higher than O's #'s!
7:02 AM - Jun 18, 2017"


Let's join him in praising Rasmussen Poll's "most accurate" findings this week:

Forty-nine percent of Americans Strongly Disapprove of Trump while only Twenty-six percent of Americans Strongly Approve.

August 01, 2017 7:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

"As of 2017, public support for legal abortion remains as high as it has been in two decades of polling. Currently, 57% say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 40% say it should be illegal in all or most cases."

August 01, 2017 7:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fascinating

of course, if polls were correct, Hillary would be President now

further, there is a distinction to be made between legality and constitutional right

Hillary lost because she thought it was a constitutional right to kill a kid the day before he was to be born, and said she would appoint only judges that agreed with that

people offended by such a view were a swing group, along with blue collar union workers in the rust belt, that made Trump President

liberals who made her the Dem nominee made a grave error and are paying the price

August 01, 2017 10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you believe the hype at TTF, Trump's approval rating as steadily and slowly degraded over his term

actually, that's not true

Trump had a poor approval rating at the time of the election

it was also poor at his inauguration

and it's poor now

despite that, he won the election and is currently transforming the judiciary with moves that will last decades

as a matter of fact, political analysts are amazed and puzzled by the fact that his approval rating has been so steady

here's a great article from Politico examining this paradox

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/08/01/five_theories_on_trumps_stable_approval_rating__134624.html

August 01, 2017 12:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The polls were right.

Hence everybody in the world knows Hillary won by nearly three million votes.

Thanks to Russian interference, Comey's bad timing, the GOP assault on voting rights for US citizens, etc., we have a chaotic child trying to serve (HA!) in the White House while he turns the USA into the world's laughing stock.

Fun fun fun!

August 01, 2017 12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"if you believe the hype at TTF, Trump's approval rating as [sic] steadily and slowly degraded over his term

actually, that's not true

Trump had a poor approval rating at the time of the election

it was also poor at his inauguration

and it's poor now"


If you believe the hype over at Rasmussen, you'd know that on January 26, 2017, Rasmussen found Trump's approval rating was at 59%.

According to Rasmussen Trump's approval rating stands at 39% as of today, August 1, 2017.

That's a drop of 20 points and shows that Trump's approval rating has fallen since Inauguration Day, AKA "degraded over his term."

Anyone can see Rasmussen's graph of this data, which runs from Inauguration day to the present by copying and pasting this url

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug1

into a browser.

Seeing the graph will require scrolling down a bit on the page.

There's also an interesting graph, well several of them in today's WaPo (Here's the URL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/31/trumps-favorite-poll-is-probably-not-his-favorite-today/) comparing Rasmussen and RCP Averages, both of which show Trump's approval rating has "degraded over his term."

They add an interesting fact found by Rasmussen Reports:

"...The survey shows a significant erosion of a critical metric for Trump. At the outset of Trump’s term, nearly 4-in-10 respondents said that they strongly approved of Trump’s job performance. Now, only 25 percent of respondents hold that view, while nearly half strongly disapprove..."

August 02, 2017 8:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The polls were right"

actually, they were wrong

they had her winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida

if they had been right, she'd have won

"Hence everybody in the world knows Hillary won by nearly three million vote"

it's a complete misunderstanding

elections have rules

we don't have compulsory voting, like North Korea

people are free to choose whether to vote

and they make that decision based on whether the rules make their vote count

we award votes by total popular vote in each state

so, if a candidate has a huge, insurmountable lead in a certain state, there is little reason for their opposition's supporters to vote

this was true this year in California, where there were also not even GOP nominees for many high-profile races, notably the Senate

so, Trump had no reasonable chance to win California but if we had a national popular vote rather than an electoral system, Trump would have gotten millions more votes and coupled with a couple of other similar states, NY and Illinois, could have easily added up to 3 million

bottom line: it's a non sequitur to add up votes cast and call it a popular national vote

we didn't have one and voter behavior was according to that

"Thanks to Russian interference,"

there's no evidence that whatever they did had any effect

it's not the first time they've ever tried to influence an election

"Comey's bad timing,"

that did have an effect but Hillary had also gotten an inappropriate boost from him a couple of months earlier

you also have to remember that his timing blunted the negative effect on Trump of his Billy Bush tape

but that was a leak of an off-the-record comment

much like the comments that wikileaks divulged from Clinton

"the GOP assault on voting rights for US citizens,"

there was likely voter fraud cancelling out the votes of US citizens but states are stonewalling and investigation of this

"etc., we have a chaotic child trying to serve (HA!) in the White House while he turns the USA into the world's laughing stock"

they are more angry than humorous

they actually laughed at the clueless Obama

Trump has angered them by pushing American interests and pushing back on their exploitation of the US

they aren't laughing

Fun fun fun!

August 02, 2017 9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"they aren't laughing" said the bubble dwelling troll.

Yes they are laughing.

Vicente Fox, former president of Mexico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZKrn7Bbl8

Emmanuel Macron, president of France
https://www.makeourplanetgreatagain.fr

Malcolm Turnbull, Prime Minister of Australia
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/06/15/14/18/malcolm-turnbull-impersonates-donald-trump-in-leaked-audio

Isabella Lovin, Deputy Prime Minister of Sweden
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38853399

Vladimir Putin, President of Russia
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/15/putin-james-comey-asylum-239589

Fun fun fun!

August 02, 2017 10:52 AM  
Anonymous Another defeat said...

President Trump has signed a bill imposing new sanctions on Russia, ending immediate hopes of a reset of U.S. relations with the Kremlin and marking a defeat for his administration, which had expressed concerns that the legislation infringed upon executive power.

August 02, 2017 10:54 AM  
Anonymous Ooof said...

In addition to new sanctions, the bill requires congressional review for any actions the administration might seek to take to lift sanctions in the future.

August 02, 2017 10:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

google or bing "world leaders laugh at Obama"

here's the first hit:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/09/09/obama-congress-syria-strike-bush-pope-column/2782641/

there are thousands more

August 02, 2017 11:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, you got a 2013 opinion piece first and there were "thousands more."

Hooooey!

My Google search for "world leaders laughing at Trump" yielded 3.1 million hits and two WaPo articles (not opinion pieces) from June 15 and 28, 2017 were on top:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-said-foreign-leaders-wouldnt-laugh-at-the-us-now-theyre-laughing-at-him/2017/06/15/de82a340-51da-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/06/28/trumps-pledge-to-keep-the-world-from-laughing-at-us-hits-another-setback/

In fact the entire first page of Google hits were all from 2017.

When I added "USAtoday.com" to the end of my search term, once again every hit on page one was from 2017 and 5.5 million hits were delivered with these 2 hits on top:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/06/donald-trump-faces-gauntlet-world-leaders-including-vladimir-putin/455873001/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/29/allies-distance-themselves-after-trumps-first-foreign-trip/102292048/

FYI: https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/

FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Personalized_Search

August 02, 2017 1:15 PM  
Anonymous Today's Headlines said...

Trump's demands are wearing thin on Senate Republicans

Justice Dept. project targets affirmative actions policies at universities

Lawsuit alleges White House link in discredited Seth Rich conspiracy theory

Republicans Bypass Trump on Shoring Up Obamacare

'Time to Move On': G.O.P. Flouts Trump After Health Loss

Donald Trump Signs Russia Sanctions Bill He Calls ‘Significantly Flawed’

Mueller Adds Former DOJ Lawyer With White Collar Crime Expertise

Fortress America: Trump Targets *Legal* Immigration

August 02, 2017 1:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Trump's demands are wearing thin on Senate Republicans"

I think Repubs had worn thin on Trump in the primaries but he dispatched with about 20 of them then

unless the economy is disastrous, like it was during most of Obama's term. Trump will be re-elected

"Justice Dept. project targets affirmative actions policies at universities"

it is the "justice" dept. it needs to be make sure everyone is treated the same

"Lawsuit alleges White House link in discredited Seth Rich conspiracy theory"

*yawn*

"Republicans Bypass Trump on Shoring Up Obamacare"

they were the ones that started the Obamacare repeal movement not Trump

"Donald Trump Signs Russia Sanctions Bill He Calls ‘Significantly Flawed’"

the supposed "election interference" is a weak excuse for sanctions

we should have saved it for more substantial matters

"Mueller Adds Former DOJ Lawyer With White Collar Crime Expertise"

former lawyer for Obama

this guy never met a conflict of interest he didn't love

"Fortress America: Trump Targets *Legal* Immigration"

he's suggested that we make entry decisions based on what the immigrant can contribute to our society

you have to make it based on something and this sounds like common sense to most people

TTF: the fake news (lies) keep on coming!

August 03, 2017 9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh brother.

I suppose you think this is "fake news" too.

Trump set to take 17-day vacation to New Jersey golf resort after vowing not to take off
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-set-17-day-vacation-new-jersey-golf-resort-article-1.3380973

He can't stand the heat after 6 months on the job.

BTW, I got 17,500,000 google hits for "trump takes 3 weeks off" and on the first page they include:

Reality check: After three weeks, Trump has hit a Washington wall
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/12/reality-check-trump-hits-washington-wall-president-immigration/97785456/

Donald Trump spends 31 percent of time on vacation, plays golf 8 times in 6 weeks—on taxpayer dime
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/6/1640646/-Donald-Trump-spends-31-of-time-on-vacation-plays-golf-8-times-in-6-weeks-on-taxpayer-dime

Why is President Trump taking a vacation after only 2 weeks on the job?
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-President-Trump-taking-a-vacation-after-only-2-weeks-on-the-job

White House to Hold Theme Weeks to Help Take Our Minds Off Russia Scandal
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/white-house-to-hold-theme-weeks-to-help-us-forget-russia.html

August 03, 2017 4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"like it was during most of Obama's term"

You mean after Bush & Co. turned Clinton's surplus into the Great Recession.

Remember the bikini graph!!

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/bikini-graph-private-sector-July-2014.jpg

Look it over and see how Obama's policies brought us up out of the recession Bush created.

August 03, 2017 4:55 PM  
Anonymous Progress said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287?mod=e2tw

August 03, 2017 5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-03/you-can-thank-leakers-for-new-russia-sanctions

"...[Trump's] National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster has concluded that Rice did nothing wrong, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who spoke to me on condition of anonymity. That might explain why Trump has yet to declassify more information on the prior administration's unmasking requests..."

August 03, 2017 5:32 PM  
Anonymous less than a hundo said...

"You mean after Bush & Co. turned Clinton's surplus into the Great Recession."

no, I mean after Bush kept the economy humming through catastrophes like 9-11 and Katrina and then the Dems took over the congressional oversight committees and destroyed the economy within a year and a half and Obama then let unemployment rise to over 10% and took longer to bounce back from recession than any recession since the Great Depression

btw, I have news for you: surpluses, like the one created by Gingrich's Contract with America, which Clinton the Crook and Predator tries to take credit for, depress the economy

it hurts the economy when the government takes more from the people than it needs to run the government

say, your IQ is less than 100, isn't it?

August 03, 2017 7:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How surprising. Another personal insult from the TTF Troll.

Meanwhile, in the present, Mueller's probe continues with a grand jury in federal court in Washington, a powerful investigative tool that prosecutors use to compel witnesses to testify or force people or companies to turn over documents.

Mueller has largely removed the original prosecutors from the case, replacing them with a formidable collection of legal talent and expertise in prosecuting national security, fraud and public corruption cases, arguing matters before the Supreme Court and assessing complicated legal questions.

Fun fun fun!

August 04, 2017 8:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"How surprising. Another personal insult"

sorry, but I'm simply applying myself to the TTF culture, doing in Rome as the Romans do

I've been insulted incessantly here

and, honestly, the idea that surpluses are a good thing, where government takes more of its citizens' money than it needs, is idiotic

"Meanwhile, in the present, Mueller's probe continues with a grand jury in federal court in Washington"

this whole thing is futile

right now, it seems focused on the DT Jr meeting but the President would certainly pardon him for any alleged crimes, saying the whole thing is politica, so what's the point?

truthfully, I hope something happens that would force trump to resign because I consider Pence to be a dream President

it would have to be something like that because the economy is so strong that Trump will easily be re-elected

jobs are so strong the Fed is going to put the brakes on the economy, the opposite of what happened during the regrettable Obama era when the Fed had to keep interest rates at zero to prop up the shit sundae economy Obama had whipped up for America:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-idUSKBN1AK09W

the stock market is at an all-time high and has risen 20% since Trump took office:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/business/economy/stock-market-trump-economy.html

today, at an enthusiastic Trump rally, the WV governor announce he's switching from Dem to GOP:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/08/04/at_trump_rally_w_va_gov_says_hes_defecting_to_gop.html

and Dems are worried Nancy Pelosi is so unpopular that they won't make the traditional off-year Congressional gains that the opposition party usually gets:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article165213507.html

so, as trump goes on a three week vacation to New Jersey (he could go anywhere and he goes to New Jersey?), Mueller is our only hope to make it permanent:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345104-trump-to-go-on-17-day-getaway-to-private-golf-club-in-nj

and now, you know the rest of the story!



August 04, 2017 12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh look, it's another Rovian-like attempt to rewrite the embarrassing George W. Bush disaster.

Harriet Miers, nominated to the Supreme Court for god's sake.

Good luck with selling your historical story of pure fiction.

There are no buyers here.

August 04, 2017 4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Oh look, it's another Rovian-like attempt to rewrite the embarrassing George W. Bush disaster.

Harriet Miers, nominated to the Supreme Court for god's sake.

Good luck with selling your historical story of pure fiction.

There are no buyers here."

there's a strategy for you

no argument or facts so let's just make a sweeping generalization and throw in an irrelevancies

whatever anyone thinks of Harriett Miers, she wasn't nominated for Treasury Secretary

and, honestly, she was probably someone with a perspective needed on the SCOTUS - someone who is not from an Ivy League law school

anyway, America is fortunate to have avoided Merrick Garland

Hillary would have probably nominated Tommy Pine Bough

August 04, 2017 5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know TTFers want America to be great again so you're probably overjoyed by the strong economic data out this week:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-hiring-maintains-strong-pace-jobless-rate-falls-to-4-3-1501849959?mod=e2fb

And you know what this means:

16 years of Trump/Pence appointing originalists to the judiciary, freeing you guys to drop your futile nutcase advocacy and enjoy a little recreation as well as finding a way to make an economic contribution.

win-win-win-win, baby!!

August 05, 2017 8:36 AM  
Anonymous He's deplorable said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/10/19-times-trump-called-the-jobs-numbers-fake-before-they-made-him-look-good/

Fake fake fake!

August 05, 2017 9:46 AM  
Anonymous you have to admit, it's getting better said...

what you don't seem to get is that voters won't care if he puts the best spin on himself

most Americans do the same in their personal lives

they will only care if they are better off and, right now, they're doing better

August 05, 2017 12:49 PM  
Anonymous where we're goin', we don't need roads said...

Why is President Trump still waging war on Hillary Clinton? In this, as he does so often, Trump serves as a magic decoder ring for our seemingly incomprehensible 21st-century politics. With reptilian clarity — hopeless on strategy, but instinctively keen — he seizes on the binary basics of our endless combat: To survive, one must have a foe.

Down deep, Trump surely knows he owes his presidency to Clinton. His vulnerabilities as a candidate were precisely the spots where Clinton was too weak to land a blow. The murkiness of his finances was offset by the shadiness of the Clinton Foundation. Her outrage at Trump’s boorish behavior rang false given her infinite tolerance for her husband’s. If Trump’s first impulse was always to dodge the truth, well, where had we seen that before? Clinton had to collapse in public before she was willing to admit to a mild case of pneumonia. Her story about her emails had more holes than Trump National Golf Club. His ignorance of policy and history demanded a campaign about nothing. She gave it to him.

So it happened that one of the most unpopular candidates in our history won his narrow victory. Voters in the key states of the electoral college disliked his opponent a little bit more.

Democrats looking ahead to 2018 might want to keep this history in mind. Approval ratings are a mirage. They ask the public to compare the president to some theoretical standard or ideal. Do you approve or disapprove of the way the president is doing his job? Compared to what? Lost in a desert of ballot-box ineptitude, the Democrats are crawling toward the false oasis of Trump’s low ratings — as though blind to the fact that Trump was never popular to begin with, and still he won.

Or rather, he survived the election, a feat managed by making it a series of head-to-head combats, against Low-Energy Jeb, then L’il Marco, then Lyin’ Ted and finally Crooked Hillary. Trump’s continuing focus on Clinton serves to remind all the people who held their noses while voting for him that elections aren’t about theoretical standards or ideals. They are about this one or that one.

To win next year, Democrats will need to offer something more appetizing than the plate they served up in 2016. But their recently unveiled effort, called “A Better Deal,” ain’t it. While the nation is hurtling into the future, they’ve rolled out a recipe from the past, yet another “deal” to go with the Fair, New and Square deals of yesteryear. As for the vapid corporation-bashing at the core of the document, it feels like a ride in the DeLorean with Marty McFly, the timer on the Flux Capacitor set for 1901. What failed for William Jennings Bryan is unlikely to succeed today.

August 06, 2017 2:35 PM  
Anonymous Read What It Says said...

David von Drehle, the author of the Post column just quoted, gives us the perfect example of how propaganda works. He strings together a series of statements that "everybody knows" are true, but in fact there is either no truth to them or they are just plain irrelevant. Hillary Clinton has been the target of rightwing slander and fake news for decades, and this column is nothing but regurgitation of the same. "Her infinite tolerance for her husband’s" boorish behavior, for instance, is a non-story. Bill Clinton was a gentleman and presided with dignity. His private life is his own and her choice to tolerate his philandering is a personal and private choice. No other country would allow the "Monica Lewinsky story" to become national headlines, and no other country would use a married man's cheating as a political sledgehammer. Trump's boorishness contrasts starkly with Bill Clinton's charm and sophistication, on every level. Even a blow job from an adoring intern shows more class than grabbing some chick's pussy just because you're famous and they'll let you.

She "had to collapse in public before she was willing to admit to a mild case of pneumonia" -- who cares? Even presidential candidates are allowed to get sick, and the fact that she carried on in spite of a serious illness should, in a normal world, count in her favor. She's tough. She didn't complain or slow down. And really, again, her pneumonia is purely a personal topic. Presidents can get pneumonia. Remember Franklin Roosevelt's polio? Do we hold that against him, that he served three terms without mentioning he needed a wheelchair? Her "story about her emails had more holes than Trump National Golf Club" -- the story about her emails was a non-story. There was nothing wrong with having her own email, it was more secure than what the government provided, there were precedents in other Cabinet Secretaries, and there were no "holes" in her story, no secrets, no lies. Sheesh, how many hours did she have to testify before Congress agreed that there was no story there? The Clinton Foundation, too, is a highly rated charity. When you have rich and powerful donors it is easy to imply scandal but the Foundation has done tremendous work and has a great record. Trump's history of corruption and secrecy -- and especially the Trump Foundation, which is nothing more than a front for organized crime -- does not in any way offset or equal the "the shadiness of the Clinton Foundation." The Clinton Foundation does good deeds, the Trump Foundation fleeces people and launders money.

These narratives emerged from propaganda, from spin -- do you know how many Presidents had extramarital sex, and how many first ladies looked the other way with "infinite tolerance"? No, you don't, because it is not the public's business. Do you know who else gets pneumonia or some other acute illness? No, because it is not our business. A Congressman twists his ankle or has high blood pressure or scabies, we don't see that in the news. It is not a story. Email server, same thing, it was not a story when Colin Powell had an email server and it was not one when Hillary did.

We call it "sliming" somebody, when you accuse them of things over and over again until there is no way to wipe it off them any more. Hillary has been slimed and it is a symptom of intellectual laziness to accept the slime as truth.

The fake news that emerged during the election season capitalized on the gullibility of people like David Von Drehle, who absorbed the propaganda and metabolized it and now exhale spin as fact. Everybody in their right mind knows that Hillary Clinton would have been a much better President than Trump, who so far has done nothing but embarrass the country and run it down. There is simply no comparison, it is the contrast between the consummate professional and whining three-year-old.

August 06, 2017 4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't get me wrong. I think Hillary is dishonest and has failed in the responsibilities and offices she has held since 1992.

But, there is no point arguing. The discussion is about what the voters perceive.

They think she's a dishonest failure who is not committed to anything other than her personal interests.

That's why she lost.

Right now, there is no other Dem threatening to offer America anything. Americans don't perceive the Obama era to be a good one for America.

If the economy continues as it has in the Trump term so far, the Dems next shot will be 2032.

August 07, 2017 2:38 PM  
Anonymous Read What It Says said...

You're right, people perceive her that way. Insofar as "people's perception" are equivalent to reality, politics is just a magic show; if it looked like the rabbit came out of the hat then the rabbit really did come out of the hat, there is no difference. You seem happy with that, so I agree with you twice, there's no point arguing. I prefer to make my decisions differently.

August 07, 2017 4:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You seem happy with that, so I agree with you twice, there's no point arguing. I prefer to make my decisions differently."

oh, I don't make decisions based on perception

I'm just telling you what will happen

there's is misperception on both sides and the media has gone to great lengths to misrepresent and twist Trump's words

still, looking through the fog, Trump did want to help America AND himself

Hillary wanted only to help herself

August 07, 2017 6:55 PM  
Anonymous Read What It Says said...

In other words, you know it's bullshit but you still believe it.

August 07, 2017 7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no, the reality is:

Trump did want to help America AND himself

Hillary wanted only to help herself

couple of pretty simple and undeniable facts

here's another one:

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Dow edged up to its ninth record closing high in a row while the S&P ended slightly higher on Monday, with consumer and technology sector gains offsetting losses in energy.

August 07, 2017 7:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW!!

9th in a row!!

I guess Barack Obama really was a loser!!

August 07, 2017 8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama finished his tenure with 76 months in a row of job creation and an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent — down from 8.3 percent at the beginning of his term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

August 08, 2017 10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Dow’s biggest surge came under this president
Gain on Coolidge’s watch topped the jumps during Obama, Clinton eras


"As President Trump settles into his new job, analysts have been reflecting on how the Dow industrials surged and slumped under his 44 predecessors.

Who oversaw the biggest gain for blue-chip stocks?

MarketWatch and others have written about stocks generally faring better when there’s a Democrat in the White House, but the crown goes to a Republican, Calvin Coolidge.

Bespoke Investment Group has created the chart below showing the Dow Jones Industrial Average’s DJIA, +0.01% rise of 252% on Coolidge’s watch.

Coolidge took office in August 1923 after President Warren Harding’s sudden death and served until March 1929, when Herbert Hoover was sworn in.

The Vermont native occupied the White House during the exuberant Roaring Twenties. “Silent Cal” later acknowledged that he bore some responsibility for the Great Depression that began in late 1929, just a few months after he left the White House.

Five other presidents saw triple-digit percentage gains for the Dow during their terms: Democrats Bill Clinton (227%), Franklin Roosevelt (197%) and Barack Obama (148%), along with Republicans Ronald Reagan (135%) and Dwight Eisenhower (120%).

What about the biggest slumps?

Coolidge’s successor Hoover, a Republican, experienced the largest-ever Dow drop (-83%), according to Bespoke’s data.

The second- and third-biggest falls also occurred under Republicans, with George W. Bush seeing a tumble of 22% and Richard Nixon, a 16.5% decline...."


August 08, 2017 10:27 AM  
Anonymous Fire and Fury? Trump doubles down saying "maybe it wasn't tough enough" said...

The president of the United States now for 50 years is followed at all times, 24 hours a day, by a military aide carrying a football that contains the nuclear codes that he would use, and be authorised to use, in the event of a nuclear attack on the United States. He could launch the kind of devastating attack the world has never seen. He doesn’t have to check with anybody, he doesn’t have to call the Congress, he doesn’t have to check with the courts.
Dick Cheney, Fox News 21 December 2008

August 10, 2017 3:28 PM  
Anonymous Alfred E Obama said...

just think:

8 years ago, the US could have stopped North Korea

we still can, of course

but now, the Kimster can wipe out tens of millions of South Koreans if hostilities break out

so, the world pays a heavy price for comrade Obama snoozin' in the living quarters at 1600 Penn

Gadaffi gave up his nukes and, during Obama's naps, he was overthrown

Ukraine gave up its nukes and, during Obama's naps, Russia invaded and annexed the Crimea

the Kims didn't give up their nukes and Obama got up from the couch to give them lollipops

the message: give up your nukes and die

keep them and get lollipops

no wonder the fat boy holds tight!!

the world on the verge of nuclear war

just one of the many things we can thank Barry "what me, incompetent?" Obama for!!

August 10, 2017 7:49 PM  
Anonymous Don Martin said...

"could have stopped North Korea" ???

From doing what?

August 10, 2017 8:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

eating too many lollipops

August 10, 2017 8:23 PM  
Anonymous “Why can’t we use nuclear weapons.” said...

"8 years ago, the US could have stopped North Korea"

Yeah and days ago, John Kelly could have stopped Tiny Hands from tweeting his saber-rattling stupidity for all to see.

"WASHINGTON — The U.S. needs a clear, cohesive and practical strategy against Kim Jong Un now more than ever as the nuclear threat posed by North Korea quickly emerges as the first major international crisis of the Trump administration.

But so far, President Trump has displayed anything but a cool head, according to national security experts.

The president’s warning that the U.S. would unleash “fire and fury” against Kim if he strikes first appeared to be a red line of sorts by Trump, who since his campaign has favored expressions of military strength in response to national security threats.

But like past tough talk on North Korea, it did not appear to deter Pyongyang.

Within hours, North Korea announced it was “carefully examining” what it calls a pre-emptive missile strike on the U.S. Pacific territory of Guam. It is unclear whether the threat to strike Guam was in response to Trump’s statement, to U.S. B-1 bombers that flew from Guam over the Korean Peninsula in a military exercise the day before, or both.

But experts said the quickly escalating saber-rattling on the part of North Korean officials and Trump served to undercut potential diplomatic solutions, threaten the effectiveness of newly authorized sanctions and shake the confidence of the very people the U.S. needs to assuage: our international allies and the American people.

“The president has to be the final voice on U.S. foreign policy,” said Christopher Preble, vice president for defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute. “In this particular case it is especially true because President Trump has repeatedly undercut the other voices in the administration on foreign policy.”

Over the weekend, the U.N. Security Council bolstered sanctions against North Korea, an effort spearheaded by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley. And last week U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson tried to cool tensions with Pyongyang, saying the U.S. was not interested in regime change.

But even if national security adviser H.R. McMaster, Tillerson and Haley coordinate a carefully worded response to the North Korean threat to turn down the temperature and secure the help of key strategic allies like China, “it can all be undone with a 140-character tweet,” Preble said..."


August 11, 2017 4:31 PM  
Anonymous Barry and Fat Boy said...

it's called the "good cop, bad cop" strategy, idiot

you know why Kim threatened Guam?

it's because after the Chinese and Russians joined the US in imposing sever economic sanctions on North Korea, Kim threatened to hit US mainland cities and Trump mocked him so he was trying to find something to threaten that people will believe

but the people of Guam just laughed

now Kim has shifted and said he will just shoot test missiles close to Guam

to which we responded that we have a terrific anti-missile system that will shoot the test missiles down and show the world how impotent Kim is

and now, China has made clear they won't come to Kim's rescue if America attacks and they won't support his threats against Japan and South Korea

Trump is painting Kim into a corner slowly but surely and not letting him save face, a horrible fate in that culture

in contrast to Barry "what me, incompetent?" Obama, who slept on his couch and wrote a children's book while a fat-boy nuclear menace arose to threaten the world

August 11, 2017 6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The incompetence, gullibility and lassitude of three successive administrations have dumped the horrible problem of North Korea into the lap of President Donald Trump. The shilly-shallying and pretend-resolutions that marked the old way of dealing with Pyongyang have come to a dead end.

The crisis exposes the infirmity of the Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama administrations in their North Korea policies....

more:

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/north-korean-crisis-a-product-of-failed-pre-trump-leadership/

August 11, 2017 6:55 PM  
Anonymous West-East Highway said...

Anon: "China has made clear they won't come to Kim's rescue if America attacks"

The Post: "China won’t come to North Korea’s help if it launches missiles threatening U.S. soil and there is retaliation, a state-owned newspaper warned Friday, but it would intervene if Washington strikes first."

Woops. Anon got it backwards.

Sad that China is the grown-up in the room on this one. If Korea picks a fight with the US, attacking US soil, China says they're on their own; if the US starts it, we are taking on not only NK but China, too.

The fire and fury might not be in the Eastern Hemisphere, esp since we got nothing locked and loaded and aren't ready for anything.

August 11, 2017 7:02 PM  
Anonymous loose screws flying everywhere at TTF central said...

China likes the buffer of a fat maniac between them and free society

but if you think they consider it vital enough to risk the destruction of Bejing and Shanghai to save this belligerent buffoon, you have more screws loose than even the average TTFer

August 11, 2017 8:31 PM  
Anonymous ha-ha said...

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August 11, 2017 8:32 PM  
Anonymous West-East Highway said...

So even though "China has made clear they won't come to Kim's rescue if America attacks", anon knows better and knows they won't.

Let's drop the big one and see what happens.

They won't do nuthin, anon promises.

August 11, 2017 8:58 PM  
Anonymous screwier than the average harebrain said...

Kim Sung-fatso is a useful idiot

China is a rational player

there's no "see what happens"

they won't commit suicide because they adore him so

you have more screws loose than even the average TTFer

August 11, 2017 9:35 PM  
Anonymous ha-ha said...

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August 11, 2017 9:36 PM  
Anonymous Political Science said...

No one likes us
I don't know why
We may not be perfect
But heaven knows we try
But all around
Even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one
And see what happens

We give them money
But are they grateful
No, they're spiteful
And they're hateful
They don't respect us
So let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one
And pulverize them

Asia's crowded
And Europe's too old
Africa's far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't want to hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an all American amusement park there
They've got surfing, too

Boom goes London
And boom Paris
More room for you
And more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it'll be
We'll set everybody free
You'll have Japanese kimonos, baby
There'll be Italian shoes for me
They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo

August 11, 2017 10:10 PM  
Anonymous epistle to stupid said...

hey, stooooopid

no one is planning to drop the big bomb except the fat kid that Obama gave permission to play with them

what we'd like to do is find a way, using convenetional weapons, to destroy the nukes or remove the maniac regime without endangering the innocent metropolis 25 miles from the DMZ

we know you'd like to step back and let Blubby put the final touches on the ICBMs he has promised to kill you with

you haven't had enough

you're thirsty for more

it's been working so far, pinko

August 11, 2017 10:18 PM  
Anonymous ha-ha said...

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August 11, 2017 10:19 PM  
Blogger JimK said...

Anon quit doing the ha-ha stuff.

JimK

August 11, 2017 11:03 PM  
Anonymous I'm Henaree the 8th, I am said...

oh, it's funny how psychotic you are about such triviality

you're worse than Trump and Kim

OK, I won't sign this one ha-ha

I'd hate for you to have to get up for this great matter

August 12, 2017 1:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"China likes the buffer of a fat maniac between them and free society"

Oh yeah, the Chinese love Trump, especially the tension he is stirring up with their neurotic nuclear neighbor to the north

"we know you'd like to step back and let Blubby put the final touches on the ICBMs he has promised to kill you with"

Now Blubby, -- AKA Mr. Why-can’t-we-use-nuclear-weapons -- has threatened Venezuela with possible "Military Option"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-venezuela-military-idUSKBN1AR2GR

The world can hardly wait to learn who the fat maniac Blubby buffer with tiny pussy grabbing hands will will threaten next.

August 12, 2017 7:38 AM  
Anonymous Welcome to Trumplandia: Nazi expressions for Robert E. Lee in Virginia said...

A group of white nationalists sparked outrage on a college campus in Virginia on Friday after the marched with torches across campus while chanting Nazi expressions.

The demonstrators marched on the campus grounds at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville late Friday as precursor to a Saturday protest planned to publicly oppose the removal of a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee.
Marches could be heard chanting slogans including "white lives matter" and "you will not replace us." Others could be heard chanting "blood and soil," a well-known Nazi rallying cry. Police eventually declared the protest an unlawful assembly and both protesters and counter protesters reported being pepper sprayed.

Some videos captured at the scene appeared to show counter protesters clashing with the white nationalists.

University of Virginia president Teresa A. Sullivan condemned the protesters in a statement issued late Friday night.

As President of the University of Virginia, I am deeply saddened and disturbed by the hateful behavior displayed by torch-bearing protestors that marched on our Grounds this evening. I strongly condemn the unprovoked assault on members of our community, including University personnel who were attempting to maintain order.

Law enforcement continues to investigate the incident, and it is my hope that any individuals responsible for criminal acts are held accountable. The violence displayed on Grounds is intolerable and is entirely inconsistent with the University's values.​​​​​​

Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer condemned the protest, which he called as "cowardly parade of hatred, bigotry, racism, and intolerance march down the lawns of the architect of our Bill of Rights."

Former President Thomas Jefferson founded the University of Virginia.

"Everyone has a right under the First Amendment to express their opinion peaceably, so here's mine: not only as the Mayor of Charlottesville, but as a UVA faculty member and alumnus, I am beyond disgusted by this unsanctioned and despicable display of visual intimidation on a college campus," Signer said.

University Professor Larry Sabato, a well-known political pundit who has taught at the school for years, described the events as "nauseating."

"We need an exorcism on the Lawn," he added -- referencing the area of campus where the protesters gathered.

Police have estimated that between 2,000 and 6,000 protesters and counter-protesters may descend on Charlottesville for Saturday's rally, and an earlier protest held in July saw clashes between protest and counter protest groups.

August 12, 2017 8:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barack Obama ✔ @BarackObama

"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..."

“People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love…”

“‘ …For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.’- Nelson Mandela,”

Aug 12, 2017

August 13, 2017 7:42 AM  
Anonymous They're deplorable said...

"...In brief remarks at a late-afternoon news conference in New Jersey to discuss veterans’ health care, Trump said he was following the events in Charlottesville closely. “The hate and the division must stop and must stop right now,” Trump said, without specifically mentioning white nationalists or their views. “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. On many sides.”

Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, a Trump supporter who was in Charlottesville on Saturday, quickly replied. “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists,” he wrote.

Asked by a reporter in New Jersey whether he wanted the support of white nationalists, dozens of whom wore red Make America Great Again hats during the Charlottesville riots, Trump did not respond..."

August 13, 2017 8:58 AM  
Anonymous Hee-hee Now That's Funny said...

Here's how yesterday's terrorist attack played out among the Trump supporters: Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut

August 13, 2017 7:58 PM  
Anonymous Hee-hee Now That's Funny said...

Ha-ha laughing so hard it hurts. Boy those snowflakes are getting mad about this! It's more fun than a barrel of monkeys! Hey liberals, over here -- sieg heil! Hee hee, look at 'em freakin' out, man that's funny.

August 13, 2017 8:08 PM  
Anonymous Trump refuses to criticize White Nationalist thugs because they're his base of support said...

Jason Kessler, the organizer of the "Unite the Right" white nationalist rally that turned deadly Saturday, called a press conference Sunday afternoon to address the previous day's events, but was quickly chased off by protesters.

Kessler had called the press conference for 2 p.m. local time behind the Charlottesville City Hall along with Richard Spencer and other participants of Saturday's rally, but was greeted by raucous boos and cries of "Shame!" as he arrived at the microphone.

Kessler said a few "people resorting to violence yesterday" before protesters began shouting over him.

Multiple news outlets, protesters, and bystanders caught the moment on video:

"Indict for murder now," one protester can be heard yelling. "He invited these people!"

The protester was likely referring to the scores of white nationalists who arrived to rally in Charlottesville in response to the city's plans to remove a confederate statue honoring Gen. Robert E. Lee.

"Get the f--- out of here," another protester is heard yelling in the background.

Saturday's rally took a deadly turn as white nationalists clashed with counter-protesters, ultimately resulting in the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer when apparent white supremacist James Fields rammed his car into a crowd of demonstrators. Two members of the Virginia State Police force were also killed in a helicopter crash outside Charlottesville as they were monitoring the protests.

The police told reporters Saturday evening that they were holding Fields on suspicion of second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding, and one hit-and-run count. Fields' bond hearing is scheduled for Monday morning.

Protesters quickly turned rowdy during the press conference. As Kessler attempted to leave, one protester appeared to try to punch Kessler before being restrained, according to video footage. Kessler is then seen ducking through bushes and trees in an attempt to safely leave the area, all while being followed by protesters.

At one point, Kessler had to be escorted by a member of law enforcement, who can be heard saying to Kessler, "Come with me, come on," while ushering the man away.

As Kessler was leaving, a protester can be heard shouting, "Her name was Heather, sir," referring to Heyer, the woman who died Saturday. "Her name was Heather, Jason. Her blood is on your hands."

Another protester can be heard saying, "Jason, what do you have to say for yourself? What did you try to tell the president?"

...President Donald Trump addressed the violence in Charlottesville on Saturday but drew sharp criticism for not singling out the white nationalists.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides," Trump said at a press conference. "On many sides."..."

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/13/protesters-chased-unite-the-right-rally-organizer-jason-kessle/23076353/

August 14, 2017 6:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

President Trump just can’t bring himself to unequivocally condemn and repudiate white supremacy and its modern-day equivalent, the “alt-right.”

He can’t bring himself to acknowledge that terrorism committed by white supremacists is, indeed, terrorism.

The president’s tepid response yesterday to the deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, was telling. He denounced the hate and violence but spread the blame to “many sides.”

No, Mr. President, there are not “many sides” to what happened in Virginia.

Not when we see hundreds of white supremacists marching with torches at night in an American city.

Not when we see people killed and injured by a white supremacist using his car as a weapon.

Trump’s initial, milquetoast response left racists feeling just fine. Amid its blog posts celebrating the day’s events, the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer wrote that Trump’s comments were “really good,” adding that the president “didn’t attack us … no condemnation at all.”

Reacting to the national outrage, the White House issued another statement today – not even attributed to Trump – that said “of course” his condemnation “includes white supremacists, K.K.K. neo-Nazi and all extremist groups.”

But Trump himself was silent.

I’m sure white supremacists remain reassured that they have a friend in the White House. A president who spews vitriol and heaps scorn on his enemies virtually every day – and who has no trouble calling Mexicans killers and “rapists” – still can’t break off the unholy alliance with bigots that he’s been cultivating since he first claimed President Obama’s birth certificate was bogus.

And I suspect the alt-righters believe they can count on Trump to continue pursuing the same white nationalist political agenda that’s been so plainly evident throughout the first six months of his administration. And why wouldn’t they think so – with alt-right champion Stephen Bannon whispering in Trump’s ear?

No, Mr. Trump, there are not “many sides” to this. There is white supremacy, and there is America. There is good, and there is evil.

It’s not a hard choice.

August 14, 2017 7:21 AM  
Anonymous Obstruction of Justice said...

Current and former members of the administration may face questioning from Special Counsel Robert Mueller in the ongoing probe into Russia’s alleged intervention in the U.S. election.

According to three people familiar with the topic, Mueller is seeking information from the White House about specific meetings and notes on such meetings, and wants to ask people about Trump’s decision to fire former FBI director James Comey, the sources told The New York Times.

Among those likely to be questioned by Mueller is former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, who may be able to answer questions from the special counsel about both the election campaign and meetings held in the White House since Trump’s inauguration.

Priebus was pushed out of the White House at the end of July, following months of rumors his head was on the chopping block, and has since been replaced by then secretary of homeland security John Kelly.

And despite advisers close to the president, including Ty Cobb, the president’s special counsel, telling The Times the White House would “continue to fully cooperate” with Mueller’s requests, the potential questioning of Priebus is said to be a matter for concern among some in Trump’s circle.

The president was reportedly never convinced that Priebus would be loyal to him, confidantes of Trump told The Times, prompting fears about potential conversations the former chief of staff could have with Mueller.

Of particular interest to Mueller will be any information Priebus may have about the president’s relationship and dealings with ousted FBI director James Comey.

According to testimony from Comey, Priebus was aware of the conversation Trump and Comey had in which the president allegedly told Comey to go easy on General Mike Flynn, telling the then-FBI director “I hope you can let this go,” over the FBI investigation into Flynn, according to a memo from Comey.

August 14, 2017 7:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.recode.net/2017/8/13/16140614/charlottesville-protestor-identities-twitter-yesyoureracist-white-nationalists

August 14, 2017 8:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Add Merck to list of groups/individuals that Trump has denounced more forcefully - by name - than the white nationalists in Charlottesville


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-leadership/wp/2017/08/14/trump-fires-back-after-the-ceo-of-merck-resigned-from-his-manufacturing-council/

August 14, 2017 11:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Obama administration received multiple warnings from national security officials between 2014 and 2016 that the Kremlin was ramping up its intelligence operations and building disinformation networks it could use to disrupt the U.S. political system, according to more than half a dozen current and former officials.

As early as 2014, the administration received a report that quoted a well-connected Russian source as saying that the Kremlin was building a disinformation arm that could be used to interfere in Western democracies. The report, according to an official familiar with it, included a quote from the Russian source telling U.S. officials in Moscow, "You have no idea how extensive these networks are in Europe ... and in the U.S., Russia has penetrated media organizations, lobbying firms, political parties, governments and militaries in all of these places."


That report was circulated among the National Security Council, intelligence agencies and the State Department via secure email and cable in the spring of 2014 as part of a larger assessment of Russian intentions in Ukraine, the official said."

August 15, 2017 4:23 AM  
Anonymous trump card said...

President Donald Trump told Fox News he is "seriously considering" issuing a pardon for former Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio, who was convicted last month of criminal contempt for ignoring a judge's order to stop detaining people because he merely suspected them of being undocumented immigrants.

Trump told the news outlet during a conversation in Bedminster, New Jersey, that the pardon could come quickly, perhaps in a matter of days. The news outlet reported the conversation on its website Monday.

"I might do it right away, maybe early this week. I am seriously thinking about it," Trump said, according to Fox News. He said Arpaio was a "great American patriot" who had "done a lot in the fight against illegal immigration."

"Is there anyone in local law enforcement who has done more to crack down on illegal immigration than Sheriff Joe?" Trump said, according to Fox News. "He has protected people from crimes and saved lives. He doesn't deserve to be treated this way."

Arpaio, whose courageous stance on illegal immigration made him a household name, was convicted of criminal contempt last month by a federal judge in Arizona. He faces up to six months in prison at his sentencing, which is scheduled for Oct. 5. Jack Wilenchik, Arpaio's attorney, said after Arpaio was convicted that the former sheriff would appeal to get a jury trial, and that the judge's conclusion was "contrary to what every single witness testified in the case."

Arpaio told Fox News, "I would accept the pardon because I am 100 percent not guilty.

August 15, 2017 4:44 AM  
Anonymous the blinking fatso said...

we went eyeball to eyeball and the fatso just blinked

guess Trump's strategy is working better than Barry "time for a nap" Obama's:

North Korea pulled back its threat to attack a U.S. territory, after days of trading increasingly bellicose rhetoric with U.S. President Donald Trump, and hours after China took its toughest steps against Pyongyang to support U.N. sanctions.

North Korean state media said Tuesday that Kim Jong Un had made his decision not to fire on Guam after visiting a military command post and examining a military plan presented to him by his senior officers.

August 15, 2017 5:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'fatso just blinked' "hours after CHINA took it toughest steps against Pyongyang to support U.N. SANCTIONS"

Arpaio, who was found guilty of defying a judge's 2011 court order to refrain from racially profiling Latinos during patrols will look fine in pink undies and be plenty comfortable in a tent in the desert just like all those people he's put there with his racist profiling policies that violated court orders.

I guess you slept through Clint Watts riveting testimony about the FBI's work on Russian bots that worked against our democratic election process in 2016. Google "Clint Watts, transcripts" and you can read all about your old news from 2014.

Did you have fun with your white supremacist Trump supporter friends in Charlottesville over the weekend?

Sad!

August 15, 2017 7:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brian Klaas ✔
@brianklaas

President Trump accidentally (presumably) re-tweeted a man calling him a fascist. This is the same guy who has the nuclear launch codes.

7:06 AM - Aug 15, 2017

https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/897414228885348352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fnews%2F2017%2F08%2F15%2Fpresident-trump-retweets-man-calling-him-a-fascist%2F23077905%2F

Scary!

August 15, 2017 7:57 AM  
Anonymous Exposing White Supremacists said...

@YesYoureRacist is revealing protesters from the Charlottesville hate parade of Nazi tiki torchbearers from photos and videos:

James Allsup, speaker at alt-right rally, Wash State U College Republicans president
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/896769392616251392

Two tiki torchbearers Ryan Martin and Jacob Dix of Centerville OH
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/896747603135692806

UPDATE: Cole White, the first person I exposed, no longer has a job
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/896713553666871296

Annnnd here's a photo of Peter Cvjetanovic (angry torch guy) with U.S. Sen. @DeanHeller (via @BattleBornProg)
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/896574405232517120

Looks like Jason Kessler, the white supremacist who organized the hate march, met with Congressman @RepTomGarrett (R-obviously) not long ago
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/896562602444296198

Surprise surprise: http://www.wral.com/raleigh-man-receives-death-threats-for-yes-you-re-racist-twitter-account/16880778/

Apparently some American racist Trump supporters don't like being IDed when they show up to chant about Blood and Soil while seeking to protect a statue that celebrates the southern heritage of white supremacy over black slaves.

August 15, 2017 8:18 AM  
Anonymous Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya said...


"The former director of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics has blasted President Trump for saying he is "seriously considering a pardon" for controversial former sheriff Joe Arpaio who was recently convicted of criminal contempt of court after violating a court order to stop profiling suspected illegal immigrants.

Walter Shaub retweeted a report about Trump's potential move Monday with the comment, "Scrambling to reassure the white supremacists and nazis that he didn't really mean what he said to the 'normies' today..."...after the backlash against his first lame statement about Charlottesville in which he failed to mention the "the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups"..[had].."caused violence."

Apparently the insomniac TTF troll feels reassured by Trump's possible pardon for the racist convict former Sheriff Arpaio.

But you are not the only racist white nationalist to feel reassured. White nationalist speaker, Richard Spencer, has taken Trumps statement as reassurance and said "That statement today was more Kumbaya nonsense. He sounded like a Sunday school teacher. I just don't take him seriously...it sounded to hollow and vapid" about Trump's most direct denunciation of white supremacy in the wake of violent protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend that left three dead and at least 35 injured.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-nationalist-calls-presidents-denouncement-of-hate-groups-kumbaya-nonsense_us_59923778e4b09096429961e8

August 15, 2017 9:48 AM  
Anonymous Vertical stripes are slimming said...

Don Jr. got email saying "The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."

Don Jr. wrote back, "If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer."

That's a crime already.

If you send me an email saying "I have child porn" and I write back "I love it, I'd love to see what you have!" that the crime.

August 15, 2017 4:51 PM  
Anonymous Dr Demento said...

"That's a crime already."

really? do tell us what law that violates

"If you send me an email saying "I have child porn" and I write back "I love it, I'd love to see what you have!" that the crime."

well, information that incriminates Hillary is not child porn and is of legitimate to her political opponent

they were right to look into it

interesting, their was some foreign agent peddling a false report about Trump that no one had problem with that

yet, the same people who publicized that report even with the knowledge that it was false now appear scandalized that trump Jr would take a meeting with someone offering similar information about Hillary

truly demented hypocrisy

August 15, 2017 10:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The former director of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics has blasted President Trump for saying he is "seriously considering a pardon""

he's a moron

Trump's pardon power is completely unlimited and beyond a need for justification

don't like it? work to nominate an acceptable alternative in 2020

"Walter Shaub retweeted a report about Trump's potential move Monday with the comment, "Scrambling to reassure the white supremacists and nazis that he didn't really mean what he said to the 'normies' today..."...after the backlash against his first lame statement about Charlottesville in which he failed to mention the "the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups"..[had].."caused violence.""

while Trump should have made clear that white supremacists are morally bereft, he was right that both sides caused the violence

the radical left believes the WORDS of racists justify a violent response

it's as simple as that

the liberal media is basically responsible for the deaths of 3 in Charlotesville

this push to remove all historical confederate statues has caused a popular backlash in the South

the fringe supremacists saw an opportunity to latch onto a popular movement

the result was to inflame tensions with little gain for anyone

these statues have been around for over a century without impeding progress

if well enough was left alone by the desperate for an issue media, 3 people would still be alive

August 15, 2017 10:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"really? do tell us what law that violates"

Collusion to commit a crime. Child pornography is a crime, just like foreign interference in a US election is a crime.

Where'd you go to law school, Trump U?

"interesting, their [sic] was some foreign agent..."

You show definite signs of being a former Trump U student.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-typos-spelling-tweets-unpresidented-2017-4

"these statues have been around for over a century without impeding progress"

Let's see your evidence of equal progress for black and white American citizens over the century these statues have stood silently watching.

Not only did Trump lose the popular vote, he's starting to lose his base.

Gallup: Trump Job Approval Rating Now at 34%, New Low

"...From a broader perspective, Trump's rating of 36% for the week ending Aug. 13 was also by one point his lowest on a weekly basis. The president has talked in recent days about doing well with his "base," but Republicans' latest weekly approval rating of 79% was the lowest from his own partisans so far, dropping from the previous week's 82%. Democrats gave Trump a 7% job approval rating last week, while the reading for independents was at 29%. This is the first time independents' weekly approval rating for Trump has dropped below 30%....he has the lowest rating in Gallup's history for any newly elected president in the summer of his first term in office..."

August 16, 2017 6:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anti-Trans ‘Bathroom Bill’ Dies In Texas
Business leaders and civil rights groups had battled to defeat the bills, saying they advanced bigotry, would tarnish the state’s image and damage its economy.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/texas-bathroom-bill-dies_us_5993cfd9e4b0e789a947df6d?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

August 16, 2017 7:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Collusion to commit a crime. Child pornography is a crime, just like foreign interference in a US election is a crime"

foreign interference in an election is not even a precise term, much less a crime

again, a British agent was peddling a false dossier about Trump and the media and the Clinton campaign publicized it

when is the trial?

"Where'd you go to law school, Trump U?"

where's you go to law school, Whole Earth Catalog website?

"Let's see your evidence of equal progress for black and white American citizens over the century these statues have stood silently watching."

you may have heard that our most recent President was black

elected twice, he held the highest office in the land

ripping down historical statues in is an inflammatory move by a radical left and desperate media that has run out of causes

those parties trying to get mileage by stoking racial tension are responsible for the deaths in Charlottesville

"Not only did Trump lose the popular vote, he's starting to lose his base."

yawn

August 16, 2017 7:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Should President Trump be faulted for his response to the tragedy in Charlottesville, Virginia? In the aftermath of a clash between protesters and counter-protestors, a nasty ragtag group of extremists on both sides, the president said, “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.” He concluded, “My administration is restoring the sacred bonds of loyalty between this nation and its citizens, but our citizens must also restore the bonds of trust and loyalty between one another. We must love each other, respect each other and cherish our history and our future together.” Then he denounced the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis by name, while calling white supremacists “repugnant to all that we hold dear as Americans.”

How could anyone raise an objection to this? And yet a firestorm erupted among those who sought to make political mileage out of the tragedy. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), always a reliable barometer of the politically correct, thundered, “The president’s talk of violence ‘on many sides’ ignores the shameful reality of white supremacism in our country today, and continues a disturbing pattern of complacency around such acts of hate.” An echo chamber of pundits and politicians insisted that the loss of life and the disorder in Charlottesville was encouraged by the president himself.

Charlottesville’s mayor, Michael Signer, a Democrat, declared, “I’m not going to make any bones about it. I place the blame for a lot of what you’re seeing in America today right at the doorstep of the White House and the people around the president.” This may have been a veiled reference to the president’s strategic advisor, Stephen K. Bannon, often wrongly and unjustly smeared as one sympathetic to white supremacists.

Here, as is so often the case with this president and the media, Trump had a much better handle on reality than did his critics. He understood that what was going on in Charlottesville was more than a detestable white supremacy, but a breakdown in our sense of common bonds of citizenship.

What sparked the original protest was a decision by Charlottesville to remove a statute of General Robert E. Lee, and we’ve come to a sad pass where any attempt to defend Lee can be labelled as the work of white supremacists. Not so long ago, Lee was recognized as a hero by both North and South, a man who was offered the command of the Union forces, and who had been the superintendent of West Point. He regarded slavery as an evil, but he makes a convenient target for the ideologues of the Left who seek to weaponize history.

“I think continually of those who are truly great,” wrote Stephen Spender. And Lee was one of these. He fought to defend what he regarded as native land—Virginia—from attack, and throughout the United States there are many who admire his military prowess, his religious piety and his effort to effect a reconciliation between North and South after the war. To seek to obliterate his memory, is an act of hate itself. It also reeks of self-serving historical amnesia, a demand for cheap grace, for absolution for past wrongs that are American wrongs. The truth is, we we all share the guilt of America’s sins.

August 16, 2017 7:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is a rich if tragic irony that the same progressives denouncing Richard Spencer and demanding that municipal statues be torn down for their alleged white supremacist qualities are themselves closely aligned with a white supremacist-tied group. I am speaking, of course, of Planned Parenthood, which is to the abortion-loving Left what Adolf Hitler’s bunker would have become to fascists had Germany not demolished it in the late 1980s: a sort of holy shrine upon which adulation and adoration can be fixated.

The racist, eugenicist roots of Planned Parenthood are well-documented, as is the paranoid racial and eugenic visions of its founder, Margaret Sanger, who spoke of her desire to create “a new race with a racial soul” in the United States, once cheerfully spoke before a women’s Klan meeting, desired to “keep the doors of Immigration closed” to those “whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race,” and yearned to accentuate “the better racial elements in our society” so as to erase from the population “defective stocks—those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization.”

But Planned Parenthood’s partisans tend to downplay those unpleasant historical realities, dismissing them as products of the time rather than a guiding principle of the institution as it stands today. Yes and no. You will not likely find anyone at Planned Parenthood who will speak as plainly as did Sanger about discouraging the reproduction of “mentally and physically defective” individuals. But the institution nevertheless fights like hell for the right to, say, exterminate babies solely because of their mental and physical defects. Plus ça change, and all that.

It is also in killing black people that Planned Parenthood really shines. Around 941 black babies are aborted in this country every day. Planned Parenthood, netting more than a third of the abortion market in the country, is responsible for 329 of those daily deaths. That averages out to a little more than 120,000 black abortions at Planned Parenthood per year, or around a third of the total abortions the organization performs—this from a demographic that makes up about 13 percent of the United States population. According to the Guttmacher Institute, black women get abortions at five times the rate of white women.

If you were a white supremacist who wanted to sharply reduce the black population to make way for more whites, what would you be doing differently than Planned Parenthood?

Nothing, as it turns out. Spencer, the lily-white organizer of the infamous tiki-torch protest in Charlottesville last week, is a proponent of legalized abortion, precisely because it does very well the thing Spencer is most enthusiastic about, i.e. reducing the number of black people in the United States. “I would say that it is the unintelligent and blacks and Hispanics who use abortion as birth control,” Spencer says, favorably, while also speaking poorly of “people who think in terms of human rights,” i.e. pro-lifers.

Spencer says those who oppose abortion are “radically dysgenic, egalitarian, multi-racial human rights thumpers.” And he means it in a bad way.

It is, in the end, not all that surprising that the end goals of a guy like Spencer would line up rather strikingly with those of the pro-choice movement. Both are overtly and self-admittedly concerned with organizing human society along carefully curated and aggressively restrictive lines—-abortive “family planning” for the one, paranoid racial segregation for the other—and both see the value of the human person strictly as a matter of superficial considerations. Pro-choicers judge your moral worth by your biological and physiological development, and Spencer judges your moral worth by the color of your skin.

I do not suppose the average pro-choicer is comfortable being associated with the policy views of a white nationalist. But if your political movement is predicated on the idea that it should be legal to kill babies, I guess you really don’t get to be all that choosy.

August 16, 2017 7:55 AM  
Anonymous No It's True said...

Note: you can say it as many times as you want, but nothing in the British guy's dossier has turned out to be false. He is a pro (hired by the Republican party) and the information is accurate.

August 16, 2017 8:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Note: you can say it as many times as you want, but nothing in the British guy's dossier has turned out to be false. He is a pro (hired by the Republican party) and the information is accurate."

most of what's come out about Hillary from wikileaks is true and yet you claim that's illegal

you can say it as many times as you want but if you say revealing information is "interference" and if it is done by foreigners, it's "illegal", then Hillary's campaign is as guilty as the Trump campaign allegedly is

but remember, granting your moronic assumptions means their is no freedom of speech in america

you're wrong

August 16, 2017 10:50 AM  
Anonymous No It's True said...

Anon, you are making that up. Nobody here has ever complained about Wikileaks' DNC dump being "illegal." It did not contain any information that damaged Hillary's campaign and it was mostly not very interesting, of course it was illegal to hack into somebody's server but that doesn't much matter.

You also will not find anybody here complaining about foreign countries "interfering." Of course Russia worked to disrupt the US in order to strengthen its own position in the world, and of course that worked magnificently, but the real work was done by Americans who were so stupid they accepted fake news as real as long as it was consistent with their existing beliefs and said something bad about Clinton. Just as you did in your comment, "most of what's come out about Hillary from wikileaks is true". Of course it's true, it is actual emails. Woo, the inner circle preferred one candidate over another, wow that is shocking. You can use that to slime Hillary further -- it is certainly easier than thinking for yourself or look at at facts. Imagine what would happen if your emails and comments here were published on Wikileaks for everyone to read. Do you think you would still have a job? A: No. Even a conservative joint like your workplace would dump you for your deplorable views and incessant trolling. The DNC emails had nothing like that, just people doing their business.

August 16, 2017 12:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HER NAME IS HEATHER HEYER
SHE DIED PROTESTING BIGOTRY

August 16, 2017 1:13 PM  
Anonymous Poor timing said...

"Controversial Trump Aide Katharine Gorka Helped End Funding For Group That Fights White Supremacy
Life After Hate works to de-radicalize neo-Nazis. The [White Supremacists in the] Trump administration decided it wasn’t a priority.

WASHINGTON ― Weeks before a violent white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, led to three deaths and 19 injuries, the Trump administration revoked a grant to Life After Hate, a group that works to de-radicalize neo-Nazis.

The Department of Homeland Security had awarded the group $400,000 as part of its Countering Violent Extremism program in January, just days before former President Barack Obama left office. It was the only group selected for a grant that focused exclusively on fighting white supremacy. But the grant money was not immediately disbursed.

Trump aides, including Katharine Gorka, a controversial national security analyst known for her anti-Muslim rhetoric, were already working toward eliminating Life After Hate’s grant and to direct all funding toward fighting what the president has described as “radical Islamic terrorism.”

In December, Gorka, then a member of Trump’s transition team, met with George Selim, the DHS official who headed the Countering Violent Extremism program until he resigned last month, and his then-deputy, David Gersten.

Gorka told Selim and Gersten she didn’t agree with the Obama administration’s approach to countering violent extremism ― particularly the way the administration had described the threat of extremism, according to Nate Snyder, an Obama administration DHS counterterrorism official who was an adviser on Countering Violent Extremism efforts and was given a readout of the meeting. The Trump administration has repeatedly criticized the previous administration for avoiding terms like “radical Islam” out of concern that it could alienate Muslims in the U.S. and abroad....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/katharine-gorka-life-after-hate_us_59921356e4b09096429943b6

Gorka's husband is Sebastian Gorka, another of Trump's assistants white supremacist assistants who works with Bannon on Trumps Strategic Initiatives Groups.

August 16, 2017 3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""Let's see your evidence of equal progress for black and white American citizens over the century these statues have stood silently watching."

you may have heard that our most recent President was black

elected twice, he held the highest office in the land"


The elections of Obama sure scared you racists silly but the rise of one black man to the highest office in the land does not mean blacks and whites are making equal progress in all areas from housing to education to employment to voting rights.

Bigotry prevents equal progress.

"but remember, granting your moronic assumptions means their [sic] is no freedom of speech in america"

Sorry, freedom of speech is not in the Constitution.

It got added on later via amendments to the constitution contained in the Bill of Rights.

Ask Stephen Miller.

August 16, 2017 4:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anon, you are making that up. Nobody here has ever complained about Wikileaks' DNC dump being "illegal.""

oh, please

"your deplorable views and incessant trolling"

my views are fairly mainstream, held by a bipartisan consensus until about 5 years ago when Dems decided they could get away with a different line

and "trolling", the TTF term for anyone who posts anything on a blog that diverges from the liberal agenda is not even something I do daily and when I do, sometimes I respond to your inane comments a couple of times

persistent I am but not that frequent

"The elections of Obama sure scared you racists silly"

I'm not a racist and I found Obama's election encouraging in the sense that it signaled significant progress in a once racist nation

"but the rise of one black man to the highest office in the land does not mean blacks and whites are making equal progress in all areas from housing to education to employment to voting rights"

systematic institutional hindrances to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness have been abolished

that's not to say there is no racism nor that there isn't a fringe that's unhappy with that

but success is not an insurmountable goal for anyone because of their race

"Sorry, freedom of speech is not in the Constitution.

It got added on later via amendments to the constitution contained in the Bill of Rights."

I think that says it all

you don't consider the Constitution's amendments, enacted under a process outlined in the Constitution, to be part if the Constitution

your attitude is Marxist, a philosophy that has invariably resulted in evil and suffering

August 16, 2017 11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The elections of Obama sure scared you racists silly"

actually, liberals were the ones scared by Obama's election

they were horrified they if racism had ended they would no longer be able to rely on 90% black support at the ballot box and they would begin to lose most elections

so, we suddenly had spasms about meaningless things like Native American sports mascots and confederate statues

August 16, 2017 11:36 PM  
Anonymous American KKK leader praises Trump for defending racists in Charlottesville said...

Trump stated that both members of the “alt-right” and what he called the “alt-left” were responsible for violence in Charlottesville, with the latter group “charging” into the former group that had a permit to protest. He said there were "people that were very fine people on both sides."

In response, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan posted his gratitude for the President's support:

David Duke
@DrDavidDuke
Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/897554574663442432 …
4:45 PM - Aug 15, 2017


No Mr. President. There are no "very fine people" who associate with racist white supremacists and Neo-Nazis who carry Nazi and Confederate flags while they march and chant:

YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US

JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US

BLOOD AND SOIL

Compare photos from last night's candlelight vigil at UVA with the scenes from hatefest in Charlottesville over the weekend.

And compare Trump's words to Reagan's:

Ronald Reagan Once Showed Republicans Exactly How To Handle Racists And Bigots
“This country, because of what it stands for, will not stand for your conduct.”

August 17, 2017 8:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"actually, liberals were the ones scared by Obama's election"

Yeah, and that's why "liberals" all fell into lock-step with Trump's bogus birther bit, trying to claim the Hawaiian born Obama was not a citizen like you did, isn't that right troll?

You are just like the builders of the confederate statues that are finally coming down, trying to rewrite history with your racist bullshit.

The enslavement of another race of people is no "heritage" anyone should want to preserve.

I'm with her too:

ElenadiBaviera
@__nene__xD

In Italy we have fascist buildings but no Mussolini statue because architecture is history, statues are celebration of ideals

#ImpeachTrump

2:30 AM - Aug 16, 2017

August 17, 2017 9:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Trump administration revoked a grant to Life After Hate, a group that works to de-radicalize neo-Nazis."

And here's and interview with Christian Picciolini, a former skinhead and co-founder of Life After Hate.

http://www.salon.com/salon-video/a-former-skinhead-turned-de-radicalization-activist-reflects-on-charlottesville/

Help this organization help former skinheads be de-radicalized, contribute at:

lifeafterhate.org/donate

August 17, 2017 5:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Monuments Must Go

An open letter from the great-great-grandsons of Stonewall Jackson.

Dear Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney and members of the Monument Avenue Commission,

We are native Richmonders and also the great-great-grandsons of Stonewall Jackson. As two of the closest living relatives to Stonewall, we are writing today to ask for the removal of his statue, as well as the removal of all Confederate statues from Monument Avenue. They are overt symbols of racism and white supremacy, and the time is long overdue for them to depart from public display. Overnight, Baltimore has seen fit to take this action. Richmond should, too..."


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/stonewall_jackson_s_grandsons_the_monuments_must_go.html

August 17, 2017 6:06 PM  
Anonymous Proud to be a true blue Marylander said...

Not only has Baltimore City removed it's statues of racists, but the the Maryland State House has too.

Last Saturday's Nazis', white nationalists', and white supremacists' carnage in Charlottesville finally convinced our GOP Governor to act.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/md-senate-president-slams-hogan-for-fast-vote-to-remove-taney-statue/2017/08/17/41833b12-8390-11e7-ab27-1a21a8e006ab_story.html

"Workers dismantled a 145-year-old statue of Supreme Court Justice Roger B. Taney outside the Maryland State House shortly after midnight Friday, the latest ripple effect from last weekend’s deadly violence at a rally of white supremacists in Charlottesville.

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said his revulsion at what happened in Charlottesville — at a demonstration purportedly in defense of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee — prompted him to change his mind about the Taney statute and push for its removal, an act long sought by civil rights groups.

The State House Trust board voted Wednesday to remove the memorial to Taney, a former chief justice who defended slavery in the court’s 1857 Dred Scott decision. Taney’s ruling said blacks, whether slaves or not, could never be U.S. citizens.

Police blocked off the streets around the State House complex Thursday evening. A crane and two flatbed trucks arrived shortly after midnight, and a crew soon began the process of removing the memorial from its base, with more than two dozen bystanders looking on, mostly local residents who figured the road closure must have been a sign that the monument would be coming down soon.

Some witnesses commented that Taney’s likeness, gazing slightly down, appeared to be bowing its head in shame as workers pulled straps around his frame...."

August 18, 2017 9:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just think: if everyone had just ignored the rally last week, three people would still be alive

here's an idea: if you hear there's a neo-Nazi rally planned, don't go

"Tina Fey is fuming about last weekend’s violence in Charlottesville, home to her alma mater, the University of Virginia.

In response, the former “Saturday Night Live” comedian and writer is spearheading a movement: “sheetcaking.”

In a surprise appearance on SNL’s “Weekend Update: Summer Edition” Thursday night, Fey urged Americans not to get into screaming matches with neo-Nazis. Instead, she said, “order a cake with the American flag on it … and just eat it.”"

but of course, the radical left is delighted by the events in Charlottesville

now, they are furthering their agenda of ripping down every statue of every historical figure who was racist

which would be virtually every historical figure prior to the civil war

and many thereafter

August 18, 2017 10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bye-bye Bannon!

Be sure to let the door hit you on your way out.

August 18, 2017 2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"if you hear there's a neo-Nazi rally planned, don't go"

Oh sure, you'd like you and your neo-Nazi friends to have free access all over America.

They tried to take all of Europe once and how'd they do?

They lost everything.

America and her allies beat the Nazis once and we will keep on beating Nazis, neo or otherwise no matter how many times they try to rise from their gas chambers of death to impose their hate filled view of the world on us.

Americans will recall we also defeated our own racist supporters of slavery.

You must be so thrilled -- double the hate, double the symbolism, Nazi and Confederate flags, side-by-side.

A match made in hell.

August 18, 2017 3:43 PM  
Anonymous What he should have said said...

As President of the United States, and as a Republican, I reject the support of white supremacists.

The country that defeated Hitler’s armies is no place for Nazi flags.

The party of Lincoln won’t stand with those who carry the battle flags of the failed Confederacy.

August 18, 2017 4:40 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

"just think: if everyone had just ignored the rally last week, three people would still be alive

here's an idea: if you hear there's a neo-Nazi rally planned, don't go"


Gee, I wonder if anybody said that in Germany back in the 1930's.

"Geh nicht Hanzel!, laß diese wütenden Nazis allein und sie werden weggehen!"

("No Hanzel! Don't go! Just leave those angry Nazis alone and they will go away!")


There seems to be no lower limit to your moronitude.

I don't own any guns. I don't want them around my house, and I see no use for them in my daily life.

However, if a bunch of people with torches, bats, shields and swastikas or white hoods show up in my neighborhood chanting about Jews, blood, and soil, I'm seriously going to consider seeing what it takes to get a machine gun license.

There is simply nothing good that is ever going to come from Nazis, neo-Nazis, or any other idiot that somehow got deluded into thinking Adolf Hitler had some good ideas. Their idiology is ultimately little more than enforced Christian white supremacy maintained by guns and murder.

Three of my four grandparents served in the military actively fighting against Nazis and other fascists in WWII. Two of them were from Poland, and one of them escaped a prison camp.

I do not condone violence, and recommend peaceful protests as the default response to injustice. However, when torch, gun, and flag carrying Nazis and the KKK show up in your neighborhood, history has shown they're not there to discus the subtle nuances of inter-racial relations over a nice cup of tea.

You need to step up your game and oppose them in clear and certain terms that they can not possibly misunderstand. Unfortunately, unless you have a gun to back you up, they probably won't take you seriously.

History has shown that there is absolutely NO good reason to ally yourself with the likes of white supremacists - whether you call yourself a Nazi, neo-nazi, alt-righter, a Grand Wizard, or just a "real American."

If you didn't learn that in your history class, it's time to go back and retake it; and don't come back until you DO learn something.

Cynthia


August 18, 2017 5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"now, they are furthering their agenda of ripping down every statue of every historical figure who was racist"

"Jamil Smith ✔
@JamilSmith

All these folks worried about erasing history when the Confederate statues come down will be thrilled to learn about the existence of books.

7:53 PM - Aug 16, 2017 · California, USA"


Personally I think the government should offer the removed statues of racists for sale.

Groups of neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and white nationalists would probably love to own these statues of America's historic racists and erect them on their privately owned lands, maybe at the Creation Museum or Trump Towers.

That way the hateful statues will be moved to places they will be appreciated and America makes money getting rid of them from public lands.

Or hey, maybe we could melt down statues of America's once great racists and turn them into rebar for that great big beautiful wall on our southern border.

Reduce, reuse, recycle

August 19, 2017 9:32 AM  

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