Friday, January 08, 2021

Closing One Door, Opening Another

If you look back at previous posts here, you will see that on December 21st I wrote, "Trump is planning a 'wild' demonstration in Washington DC on January 6th, the day when the Electoral College vote count is finalized and the results are certified by Congress." That was three weeks before Trump's attempted coup, which took law enforcement entirely by surprise. How did I know that was going to happen? Everybody knew that. Trump had announced it. The social media were all full of talk about it, with lefties agreeing among themselves that it was a good day not to counterprotest -- and in fact there was no counterprotest or liberal presence as far as I saw -- and the radical right licking their chops and planning what to wear on the Big Day (Proud Boys decided on a black ensemble).

And yet, you saw it -- rightwing radicals walked right past the understaffed police, into the Capitol building. Smashed windows, broke things, wandered the halls, stole stuff. A few of them died, one shot by cops, but then after a few hours they walked right back out of the building; some of them paused to pose for selfies with the cops. Almost no arrests. Maryland's Governor Hogan says he offered the Maryland National Guard to help, and was delayed by the Defense Department while rioters looted and vandalized the Capitol; the federal government told him no thanks, not right now -- I will be interested to learn about coordination between the Trump crime syndicate and the Pentagon in this attempted revolution.

Many of the rioters were armed and at least one man in military fatigues who was moving together with several others was carrying a handful of expensive twist ties that are used by police for handcuffs, as if he planned to take hostages; there appears to have been at least one team on a mission inside the Capitol. Work is ongoing to identify the violators, and it appears there are a number of military and police personnel among them. We'll see. The Pentagon agreed to provide 300 unarmed troops, mostly to help oversee traffic checkpoints and Metro subway stations. That's it. They are pretending to have been totally taken by surprise here.

Maybe the puny police presence calls to mind any of a great number of recent scenes of police by the hundreds, armed to the teeth, teargassing and beating peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters, running over them with their cars, putting their eyes out with rubber bullets. The contrast is clear. Trump had been promoting this "wild" (as he called it) event for weeks. I have seen two social-media videos of people bragging that they were preparing to come to DC "to occupy the Capitol." Nobody was surprised this happened. It appears that the attempted coup was coordinated between Trump's people, the Pentagon and Capitol Police, and underground rightwing militias and mercenaries; the story will come out but I speculate that intended kidnapping and hostage-taking was interrupted by armed Secret Service officers protecting Mike Pence. Otherwise, you have to agree, the plan went very well.

Trump needs to be removed, either by 25th Amendment or impeachment. Nuff said there. It's time for him to go.

A new team is coming in, with a new tone. Today's poisonous Republican rhetoric has been simmering for several decades and it is time to undercut it and establish a kinder, fairer America. We have real problems and do not need to be making up my-inaugural-crowd-was-bigger and I-did-not-say-that-thing-you-heard-me-say fake controversies for people to take sides on. I have previously talked about several concrete steps that could be taken, all of which were implemented in the past and which could take us back to happier days. And how progressive does that sound?

For one, Citizens United was a 2010 court ruling that overturned 100 years of previous law. With a President and both houses of Congress, the Democrats can quickly and effectively write legislation to un-do that terrible decision, which gives unlimited power to corporations that have unlimited financial resources. They didn't used-ta could do that, and it would be good if they couldn't do that again. The ruling had assumed that corporations would be transparent and not corrupt, and those assumptions have been proven wrong. Put some reasonable limits on what people can donate while you're at it. (I suppose taxing political churches would be too much?) We have billionaires and huge companies who could buy the United States of America, cash on the barrelhead, if they wanted to. Let's make it so us little guys have a share in it too, how about that?

Second thing. In 1987 the all-Republican-appointed FCC eliminated the Fairness Doctrine. This was the rule that said licensed broadcast media -- radio and TV -- had to present controversial issues of public importance and they had to make it honest, equitable, and balanced. "Too much government regulation," those 80's Republicans said, and then they changed the law, allowing rich investors to influence programming so their message would prevail on radio and TV. The result today: one-sided, fact-free propaganda blasting into American family homes day and night. Beyond the point of endorsing an opinion, some of the shows present fiction as news, claiming that news is a form of entertainment. Bring that law back. I get tired of the same "panel of experts" every night anyway, what if we had news that was news? Is that idea too old-fashioned? They should be accountable for their facts and coverage.

Finally, the Voting Rights Act was, you know, awkward. I appreciate that a lot of people wanted to get rid of it. But people we do have a problem. This year Black people were motivated after four years of Trump's overt racism, and they stood in line for hours, in a pandemic, to vote, and they changed history. This week's results in Georgia, you know what that was? A: Black folks. Many states -- you might find that most states -- make it harder for Black people to vote. Latinos, too. Native Americans have real problems, just getting to a ballot-box. Even poor rural whites. We don't need different rules for Southern states at this point, we just need some federal standards for voting. How many locations should there be per thousand people? What is the maximum distance someone should have to travel to vote? What is a reasonable time to wait? What kinds of ID can be required? Mail voting -- if it's okay then let the law reflect that, at the federal level. How will mail-in deadlines work, if the mail is slow? How will signatures be handled? These should be guidelines that the states have to follow. They don't have to offer mail voting, for instance, but it is all right if they do, and these will be the necessary conditions. Like, maybe they can start counting them before election day, is that unreasonable? Today's voting environment is engineered to give the minority party the advantage; the Democrats have a shot now at making voting a fair process that works equally well for all populations.

Sure I want the $2,000, actually I think universal basic income sounds like a good idea, especially now, in the pandemic, but I'll take the two grand. That isn't why we elected Joe and Kamala. America needs a real change. We need to be kind to people who are suffering and who need help, and we need to be fair to everyone. You and I expect fair treatment, and it should be something all Americans can expect from their government.

I want to see the door slam shut on these Trump criminals. The greed and corruption should be punished to the full extent of every applicable law, and this latest violent coup attempt should send a lot of people to prison -- not just local Second-Amendment-Bubbas but also the leaders who lied to them. All of them, the whole Trump family, their lawyers, their donors, the crooked people who work for them. We cannot shrug and move on, we need to slam the door. And I am picturing a tall door, on rollers, made of steel bars. We need to shut the door on this embarrassing chapter of American criminal leadership and open the door to a way of life that benefits everyone. We need to beat the virus, we need to get back to work, our kids need to be in school -- we need live music!

201 Comments:

Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"Maybe the puny police presence calls to mind any of a great number of recent scenes of police by the hundreds, armed to the teeth, teargassing and beating peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters, running over them with their cars, putting their eyes out with rubber bullets. The contrast is clear."

Jim, I was with with you in your first three paragraphs, up to this point. Will discuss later tonight.

But you're right. Trump needs to leave now. He should resign.

Impeachment is appealing but will take too long. It would also bar him from running again but the process might tear the country apart. He'll never have enough support to win again after this. Too bad about the required length of time, because his actions Wednesday were clearly impeachable and to see him sitting next to Biden on the inauguration stand will be an abomination.

The problem with the 25th is it only applies to physical or mental incapacity, not moral failure. You could stretch its meaning but enough damage has already been done that way.

Probably the best solution, other than an unexpected resignation for the good of the country, is for Pence and the major players to stay around and marginalize him. Should be doable, especially now. What can he do? Take 'em to court?

January 08, 2021 10:52 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Jim said "We need to shut the door on this embarrassing chapter of American criminal leadership and open the door to a way of life that benefits everyone."

But not harmless gays according to bigots Wyatt and Regina Hardiman. Innocent lgbt pepole have a moral right to a society that seeks to benefit them as well as everyone else.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "The problem with the 25th is it only applies to physical or mental incapacity, not moral failure".

Trump is clearly mentally incapacitated, he's a danger to himself and others, there's no reason he cannot be 25thed but yet again Republicans refuse to hold the would be dictator accountable. Cowards Betsy Devos and Elizabeth Chao resigned from cabinet to escape the pressure to do what's right, this was no principled stand by them. If they really rejected
Trump they would have stayed and pushed to 25th him.

January 08, 2021 11:03 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "So, cowardly and corrupt Elaine Chao and Betsy Devos have resigned from Trump's cabinet so they don't have to carry out their duty to impeach him."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "the Secretary of Education and the Secretary of Transportation don't have the power to impeach any one maybe you should stick to subjects you know something about".

I put impeach by mistake when I meant 25th amendment him. An honest person would have responded to what I obviously meant instead of pretending they didn't know what I was talking about.

I said "They're pretending to be above Trump and ethical when they are anything but."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "actually, they both behaved both ethically and competently".

There's nothing ethical about doing everything possible to destroy the public education system and deprive poor people of the ability to educate their children. There's nothing ethical about running away and letting a mad man continue to be an existential threat to the country.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Chao's husband refused to go along with Trump's scheme yesterday today, the Washington Post said it was to his "lasting credit"".

Like you, McConnell appeased and enabled Trump every step along the way, even going so far as to announce he would violate his oath to do fair and impartial justice in the Trump Impeachment trial. Republicans didn't even allow any evidence to be presented! You and McConnell don't get any credit for condemning Trump at the very last minute when you did everything in your power to bring him to attempting insurrection.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "DeVos spent the last four years championing the right of minority students to leave their failing local public schools and get a decent education".

Destroying public schools and forcing everyone to pay for their children's education will prevent poor minority students from getting any education - Devos is down right evil, her attacks on the public school system are just another act of white supremacy. If Republicans really wanted to do something to improve schools they'd provide equal funding instead of letting schools be funded by property taxes that leaves poor black neighbourhoods sorely lacking in funds while white schools luxuriate in every possible way.

January 08, 2021 11:22 AM  
Anonymous They're talking about you, Wyatt/Regina said...

Florida Paper: Are You Happy Now, Trump Supporters?


From the editorial board of the Orlando Sentinel:

We’ve never seen the likes of it before in American history. A mob, incited by a president, stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday as the House and Senate convened to read, debate and certify the election of a new president. Decked out in their Donald Trump gear and waving Trump flags, the mob pushed its way past undermanned police guarding the building, rushed onto the steps of the Capitol and broke inside.

Members of Congress, and the vice president, were forced to end the proceedings and flee, halting their constitutionally mandated duty. Are you happy now, Trump supporters? Is this what you wanted? Or are you feigning surprise or trying to find someone else to blame? Maybe Antifa. You did this. You supported and voted for a man who never really bothered to disguise his fondness for tyrants and how they were able to run things.

Read the full editorial.

January 08, 2021 11:27 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Make no mistake about it, Wyatt and Regina Hardiman and their fellow evangelical christians are responsible for Trump's attempted coup. They enabled, encouraged, and defended him every step along the way that brought the nation to this crisis. Hell, they're even still defending all his corrupt acts and dictatorial ways other than calling for the march on the capitol.

Wyatt and Regina and evangelical christians haven't changed, they'll be fully behind the next Republican dictator wannabe and if he's a little smarter and more covert than Trump they'll ride him all the way to the crushing of American democracy. Make no mistake about it, if Trump had coerced enough people to go along with faking the vote count in swing states there would have been no objection from Wyatt and Regina and evangelical christians. They're only condemning Trump now because he was too open and clumsy in his latest attempted coup.

January 08, 2021 11:32 AM  
Anonymous The stunning hypocrisy of Republicans said...

Ted Cruz Desperately Tries To Distance From Trump


Houston’s ABC News affiliate reports:

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who is facing intense calls for his resignation, told ABC13 exclusively that his intent to oppose Joe Biden’s electoral win was based on legality and to fight voter fraud.

In his first interview since the U.S. Capitol was under unprecedented siege by President Donald Trump’s supporters, Cruz also insisted that he did not agree and has never agreed with the sitting president’s rhetoric that fired up the chaos and left four people dead on Wednesday.

“The president’s language and rhetoric often goes too far. I think, yesterday in particular, the president’s language and rhetoric crossed the line and it was reckless. I disagree with it, and I have disagreed with the president’s language and rhetoric for the last four years,” Cruz said.

Ted Cruz actually just had the nerve to say, “I have disagreed with the president’s language and rhetoric the last four years.”

You have got to be kidding me.

January 08, 2021 11:37 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

There were over 4000 COVID deaths Thurday thanks to Trump's inaction on COVID and active attempts to make it worse by turning half the country against mask wearing and other mitigation measures.

And Wyatt and Regina Hardiman are trying to pretend, at the last minute, they are taking a principled stand against Trump when they still defend his every corrupt action and monumental failures prior to the riot on the Capitol.

You can't now say you're now taking a principled stand when you didn't stop supporting Trump immediately after he said “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total. That's the way it's got to be.”

That should have immediately disqualified Trump from having your continued support. That showed the massive character flaw that made him obviously unfit to be president and yet you looked the other way and continued to minimize and defend. You let that go, you helped bring about the march on the Capitol.

January 08, 2021 11:49 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I mean, really, Trump previously says “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total. That's the way it's got to be.” and now when he tells his supporters to march on the capitol you claim you would have needed magic to see that coming???

Give me a break! How about full honesty for a change instead of just a little wee bit? Admit you were wrong to continue supporting Trump after he made that remark. You know full well if Obama had said that you would have been screaming that he was unfit to be president. Admit now that you should have stopped supporting Trump then so the healing and working for a better future can start.

January 08, 2021 11:57 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Now at a moment of crisis Republicans delay yet again on impeaching or 25thing Trump, putting him above the law yet again where there will be no consequences for his dictatorial acts. This just ensures some Republicans will repeat Trumpism and take it even farther next time and there will be no democracy the next time they are in power.

January 08, 2021 12:10 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Susan Collins on Trump's Senate acquittal after Republicans refused to allow the presentation of any evidence, "I think he's learned his lesson."

We said then that with no consequences it would embolden Trump and threaten democracy and now Republicans want to let him go after what they admit was a grave failing. Again they want to send the message that there are no consequences to assaulting American democracy, that if you're president you can do anything you want.

If you want rogue Republicans to learn a lesson there have to be consequences! Get rid of Trump now!

January 08, 2021 12:22 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Randy, it's simple: you're pathetic. So glad you're a foreigner.

Democrats were rushing to begin the expedited proceeding two days after the president rallied his supporters near the White House, urging them to go to the Capitol to protest his election defeat, then continuing to stoke their grievances as they stormed the edifice — with Mr. Pence and the entire Congress meeting inside to formalize President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory — in a rampage that left an officer and a member of the mob dead. (Three others died, including one woman who was crushed in the crowd, and two others who had medical emergencies on the Capitol grounds.)

The prospect of forcing Mr. Trump from office in less than two weeks appeared remote given the logistical and political challenges involved, given that a two-thirds majority in the Senate would be required. But the push unfolded amid a sense of national crisis following the Capitol siege, as White House resignations piled up and some Republicans appeared newly open to the possibility, which could also disqualify Mr. Trump from holding political office in the future.

Senator Ben Sasse, Republican of Nebraska, a frequent critic of Mr. Trump, said he would “definitely consider whatever articles they might move, because I believe the president has disregarded his oath of office.”

“He swore an oath to the American people to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution — he acted against that,” Mr. Sasse said on CBS. “What he did was wicked.”

The House is next scheduled to be in session on Monday, meaning that articles of impeachment could not be introduced until then. On Friday, Ms. Clark said on Twitter that Democrats were working to find “the quickest path to hold Trump accountable,” but added that they faced “obstruction and attempts to delay us by the G.O.P. defenders.”

January 08, 2021 1:23 PM  
Anonymous Rumplandia's days are numbered, thank GOD! said...


What's simple is that GOPers claim to be Americans but proved themselves to be totally wiling to support rump and his bogus claims and to bring insurrection to the US Capitol.

January 08, 2021 2:07 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous posted "Ms. Clark said on Twitter that Democrats were working to find “the quickest path to hold Trump accountable,” but added that they faced “obstruction and attempts to delay us by the G.O.P. defenders.”

That's exactly what I said, even though Republicans now acknowledge the grave failings of Trump they are going to refuse to hold him accountable yet again.

Republicans said before Trump's Senate trial they would violate their oath to do fair and impartial justice and would just go along with Trump's claim that the Constitution says he can do anything he wants. Now they're again sending the signal that there are no repercussions for violating the rule of law and destroying norms. They're just inviting any corrupt and ambitious person to repeat Trump's attack on democracy because Republicans will let it happen and even cheer it on if it isn't too brazen.

January 08, 2021 2:27 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

The bigot Tony Perkins said "It’s what happens when God is ejected from schools, courts, politics, and polite conversation..."


Far more plausible than that is, this is what happens when you teach everyone humans are so evil, depraved, and completely worthless they deserve to be eternally tortured for their finite actions. When you teach children that humans are insignificant and that only a god has worth its no surprise when those children become adults who see no value to human life or concern over the loss of it.

January 08, 2021 2:36 PM  
Anonymous Ninja0980 said...

The Jesus Tony wants is a vile and hateful person. Think of how much worse it would be if he was in school.

January 08, 2021 2:39 PM  
Anonymous RoyalScribe said...

John Wayne Gacy, the Killer Clown, was raised in a strict religious household, went to private Christian schools, and almost became a priest. Murdered at least 33 teenagers over a six year period.

January 08, 2021 2:41 PM  
Anonymous Friday's_cat said...

That's an odd statement coming from Tony Perkins considering White Evangelical Bible Supremacists support Trump.

January 08, 2021 2:44 PM  
Anonymous Tawreos said...

I'm sorry,what were you saying Mr. Perkins you a*hole?

January 08, 2021 2:46 PM  
Anonymous @AndrewLSeidel said...

The religious mind is primed to accept lies. Presented with an extraordinary claim, it does not demand extraordinary evidence, but instead engages faith to overcome skepticism. Their religion has taught evangelicals to accept, rather than question. Trump's constant waterfall of outright lies landed on amenable minds. His support was greater among regular churchgoers than among lukewarm believers. The greater the faith, the more subordinate healthy skepticism becomes. So the Biblical fetish for totalitarians may have helped America elect its first.

The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is Un-American

January 08, 2021 2:51 PM  
Anonymous Now that is LAW AND ORDER said...

WASHINGTON ― A right-wing West Virginia lawmaker who stormed the U.S. Capitol during an insurrectionist attack in support of President Donald Trump’s losing reelection campaign will face charges, a federal official said Friday.

Derrick Evans, a member of the West Virginia House of Delegates who livestreamed himself invading the U.S. Capitol but claims he “committed no criminal act,” will face charges, an official with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia said. The case was expected to appear on a court docket on Friday.

The charge was an indication that federal officials would use social media posts and other evidence to go after the insurrectionists even though they were allowed to leave the Capitol Building without being arrested and processed.

Also charged was Richard Barnett, who posed for photos inside House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office and gave an interview identifying himself. Another defendant who had 11 Molotov cocktails in a truck with Alabama license plates will also face charges, officials said.

Ken Kohl, the No. 2 official in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, said the investigation was the highest priority for the Justice Department. “We literally have hundreds of prosecutors and agents working from three command centers on what is really a 24-7 operation,” he said. “It is active, it is fluid, it is evolving.”

Steven D’Antuono, the assistant director in charge of the FBI’s Washington field office, said the bureau was “far from done” and that the rioting and destruction “would not be tolerated” by the FBI.

“I want to stress this: Just because you’ve left the D.C. region, you can still expect a knock on the door if we find out that you were part of the criminal activity at the Capitol,” D’Antuono said.

Federal officials said they appreciated the tips they’d received from the public, and that hundreds of federal law enforcement officials were working around the clock to identify and charge as many of the insurrectionists as possible.

January 08, 2021 2:53 PM  
Anonymous Sen. Jack Danforth said...

The political mentor of Sen. Josh Hawley (Mo.) told a local newspaper on Thursday that backing the freshman Republican’s bids for office was “the worst mistake I ever made in my life,” calling Hawley’s attempts to undermine confidence in the election of President-elect Joe Biden “dangerous.”

Jack Danforth, a former senator and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations who is considered the dean of Missouri Republican politics, played a key role in elevating Hawley ahead of the latter man’s race against Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill in 2018.

“Supporting Josh and trying so hard to get him elected to the Senate was the worst mistake I ever made in my life,” Danforth told St. Louis Post-Dispatch columnist Tony Messenger. “Yesterday was the physical culmination of the long attempt (by Hawley and others) to foment a lack of public confidence in our democratic system. It is very dangerous to America to continue pushing this idea that government doesn’t work and that voting was fraudulent.”

Danforth’s comments starkly display the gap between many retired Republican officials and a new generation of Republicans who grew of political age during the Trump era and are far more willing to indulge constituents who believe in conspiracy theories.

Danforth helped Hawley, a University of Missouri law professor who had just become the state’s attorney general, clear the field of major competition during the Republican primary ahead of his successful bid against McCaskill.

Other Republicans in the Senate, including Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, have criticized Hawley’s objections to counting electoral votes cast for Biden, arguing the effort was doomed from the start, encouraged Wednesday’s violence and set a dangerous precedent.

Danforth, who was considered a moderate during his time in the Senate, agreed.

“This guy is doing real harm,” he said. “What he’s doing to his party is one thing. What he’s doing to the country is much worse.”

January 08, 2021 3:42 PM  
Anonymous It's Time for Martian Law said...

The country is not very well, but irony is healthy AF.

Woman parades around Capitol insurgency with "Don't Tread on Me" flag, is trampled to death by Trump lovers.

Georgia Woman Trampled to Death in Capitol Riot was Obsessed with pro-Trump Conspiracies

January 08, 2021 5:16 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Capitol Rioters Plotted To Find And Hang Mike Pence



Mediaite reports:

Supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed and invaded the Capitol on Wednesday reportedly intended to find and execute Vice President Mike Pence.

Reuters News Pictures Editor Jim Bourg revealed in a Twitter post that he heard “at least 3 different rioters at the Capitol say they hoped to find Vice President Mike Pence and execute him by hanging him from a Capitol Hill tree as a traitor.”

“It was a common line being repeated,” he added. “Many more were just talking about how the VP should be executed.” A Twitter user later responded to the report, sharing a video of rioters chanting, “Hang Mike Pence!”

"I heard at least 3 different rioters at the Capitol say that they hoped to find Vice President Mike Pence and execute him by hanging him from a Capitol Hill tree as a traitor. It was a common line being repeated. Many more were just talking about how the VP should be executed." - Jim Bourg

January 08, 2021 5:34 PM  
Anonymous Most evangelical christians are still behind Trump said...

Christian Site Celebrates DC Riot By “Patriotic Army”


Pastor Caleb Cooper writes for Charisma News:

As I stepped on the soil of our great nation’s Capitol, I could see and hear the sound of a patriotic army marching to the declarations of “Stop the steal,” “USA,” “God bless America” and “Say no to communism.” Jericho marches were happening around the Capitol.

I entered the south side as prayer and worship were taking place on the lawn. Slowly the lawn began to fill up with born-again believers in Jesus Christ, patriots who love this great country.

The people moved past the barriers into the courtyard of the Capitol, continuing up the stairs as law enforcement were moved back by the mental intensity and determination of the American people’s passion to get to the truth concerning the allegations of election fraud.

The patriots were innumerable. They filled the top platform of the Capitol, with a sea of people extending down the stairs and into the courtyard and beyond.

Over the crowd, I saw American flags, Trump flags and Appeal to Heaven flags being carried past the barriers and making their way to the top as the crowd began to sing the National Anthem and shout “USA.”

January 08, 2021 5:57 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

They just need more Jesus.

January 08, 2021 5:58 PM  
Anonymous Elizabeth from Knoxville Tennessee said...

"We're storming the capitol, it's a revolution!"

January 08, 2021 6:03 PM  
Anonymous Evangelical christians still trying to gaslight America said...

Evangelist Falsely Claims None of the Capitol Rioters “Were Trump Supporters”

Christian evangelist Mario Murillo, who has fought Satan over control of a California highway and claimed God sent Donald Trump to “save” people from Democrats, is trying very hard to distance fellow Christians from the riots at the Capitol on Wednesday.

On the night of the siege, Murillo said he knew with absolute certainty that the MAGA cultists who invaded the Capitol included no Trump supporters. Somehow.

… What we’ve seen today is the people are going to speak. We the people are speaking, and the politicians need to be afraid of us. And I think — I know for a fact that none of those rioters that invaded the buildings were Trump supporters. They certainly weren’t patriots. But I know this: I know that there is a spirit in the land that wants to take away our Christian rights and our freedoms, and today, we demonstrated to them we are not going to let this happen. And anyone that thinks that it ends tonight is totally mistaken. This is not the end. This is the very beginning.

So no Trumpists were rioters — even though pictures of the attack show flags and hats and giant banners with Trump’s name — and while those supporters weren’t there, the politicians still need to be afraid because “we demonstrated to them we are not going to let this happen.”

A pretzel doesn’t have as many twists as Murillo’s logic.

The attack was staged by MAGA cultists. They included Christians who bragged about their participation. They are domestic terrorists. And it’s clear the only thing that bothers some Christian evangelists is that the mob didn’t win. So Murillo and his allies will keep spreading lies about how Christians are under attack when reality is that Christians are the ones attacking everyone else.

Hemant Mehta

January 08, 2021 6:15 PM  
Anonymous And Wyatt and Regina lie and say christians are responsible with COVID said...

Liberty Counsel: We Condemn The Riot But God Can Still Intervene For A Miraculous Victory So Send Money

Via email from hate group leader Mat Staver:

Throngs of concerned marchers filled Washington, DC as members of Congress began the House and Senate sessions objecting to the electoral certification of Arizona.

The shocking events we all witnessed do not change the facts concerning the 2020 general election. The fraud has not changed, and neither has our mission to shine light on that fraud.

Liberty Counsel condemns the violence that broke out and offers our prayers for those who suffered the consequences of that violence.

The country is at a tipping point. But there is hope! Our research and legal staff have been deeply engaged in stopping the steal of our 2020 elections.

As I have written for months, the sheer volume of credible, unmistakable evidence of election fraud that occurred is shocking.

But we know God can intervene and turn what looks like a hopeless cause into a miraculous victory!

We are also preparing for the battles ahead, including defending the freedom to choose whether to be vaccinated or not. That battle is looming.

January 08, 2021 6:21 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

"But we know God can intervene and turn what looks like a hopeless cause into a miraculous victory!"

What happened to the imperative that god give people free will????

Remember? That was your excuse for an all powerful and all knowing god allowing people to do evil.

January 08, 2021 6:23 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

So, hypocritical christians who call themselves "intercessors for America" singled out Chief Justice John Roberts and prayed to God that he “bow to You,” and if he doesn’t, then there needs to be a battle."

In their traitorous statement they said "we pray that Chief Justice John Roberts would uphold the Constitution in all things....Let him rule in every decision as You desire him
to rule.". which is a demand that would itself violate the U.S. Constitution.

January 08, 2021 6:29 PM  
Anonymous how sick are TTFers? said...

"John Wayne Gacy, the Killer Clown, was raised in a strict religious household, went to private Christian schools, and almost became a priest. Murdered at least 33 teenagers over a six year period."

Gacy, who was one of the most famous homosexuals of the twentieth century, was from a Roman Catholic family but they weren't particularly religious. In addition to being homosexual, he was also very involved in Democratic politics, serving as a precinct captain in Iowa. There are pictures of him with Rosalynn Carter.

I've never heard he considered he considered the priesthood but that is a popular route for homosexuals to hide their sexual perversions.

January 08, 2021 6:31 PM  
Anonymous It's Time for Martian Law said...

Irony had a good day yesterday.

One person who died of a "heart attack" in the insurgency was Kevin Greeson, from Athens, Alabama. The Washington Post described him in a quote as "a wonderful father and husband who loved life. He loved to ride motorcycles, he loved his job and his coworkers, and he loved his dogs." Pictures on Parler show him displaying a bunch of weapons and bragging about his eagerness to kill liberals.

The late Kevin Greeson posing with his Christmas tree

According to reports, he stormed the Capitol yesterday with a taser concealed in his pants. He was in the process of stealing a portrait of Tip O’Neill when he accidentally & repeatedly discharged the taser. He tased himself in the balls until he suffered a fatal heart attack.

January 08, 2021 6:44 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Gacy, was from a Roman Catholic family but they weren't particularly religious.".

No, they were very religious and he had a strict religious upbringing. That's why he considered becoming a priest.

Just shows you that religion doesn't make people good. If anything it makes them bad because you teach children humans are so evil and utterly depraved they deserve to be eternally tortured for finite crimes. No wonder Gacy had no respect for human life, that's what conservative christians teach.

January 08, 2021 6:59 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

You don't send your child to a private christian school if you're not devout. Make no mistake about it, christianity messed with Gacy's mind, particularly its evil positions on gays.

January 08, 2021 7:04 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

A recent study has shown that "people of faith" are more likely to be murderers than atheists.

January 08, 2021 7:14 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

The Twitter competitor Parler favoured by conservatives was used to help plan the attack on the Capitol. There are now open calls on Parler for the murder of police officers and planning for violence on January 20th. Good thing they're not godless liberals, eh?

The Apple has threatened to remove Parler from its App store if the owners don't moderate the comments. CEO John Matze has is defiant in refusing to do so.

January 08, 2021 7:55 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

High religiosity in a society is positively correlated with higher social dysfunction like crime, teen pregnancy, high infant death rates and so on. Its true in the States as well where the deeply religious south is at or near the bottom of all measures of social well being in the United States.

January 08, 2021 8:05 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

So, the traitor Mitch McConnll has said that if the House impeaches Trump he won't hold a Senate trial until Jan. 19th the very last day before Biden is sworn in.

McConnell pretended to defend democracy after the storming of the capitol, but when push comes to shove he's still enabling Trump and refusing to hold him accountable. Republican leadership is not about to clean up its act any time soon.

January 08, 2021 9:22 PM  
Anonymous Eric Lach said...

If you can put a Supreme Court justice on the bench in a week you can impeach and convict in a week.

January 08, 2021 11:35 PM  
Anonymous gender has consequences said...

"High religiosity in a society is positively correlated with higher social dysfunction like crime, teen pregnancy, high infant death rates and so on."

Homosexuality is positive correlated with fake priests, pedophilia, and serial killers

John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, hundreds of fake priests

"So, the traitor Mitch McConnll"

falsely calling people "traitor" and misspelling is also common of the mob that stormed the Capitol

Randy the hardcore psycho has a lot in common with those extremists

"has said that if the House impeaches Trump he won't hold a Senate trial until Jan. 19th the very last day before Biden is sworn in."

if he does, it will never finish that day and the new Senate can convict Trump

then, trump won't be able to hold office again, lose his post-presidential perks, lose his library...

"McConnell pretended to defend democracy after the storming of the capitol, but when push comes to shove he's still enabling Trump and refusing to hold him accountable. Republican leadership is not about to clean up its act any time soon."

based on your incivility since midnight on NY Eve, neither are you

"If you can put a Supreme Court justice on the bench in a week you can impeach and convict in a week."

probably not

Trump to call witnesses

if we turn into the Wild West and start lynching people without a trial, then the mob will have succeeded in destroying us

which has always been pathetic Randy's wish, as well

sorry, Randy, our justice system survives

and we've gotten Merrick Garland off the courts and on the other side of the bench where Amy Coney Barret can overrule him eight days a week and twice on Sundays!

January 09, 2021 12:07 AM  
Anonymous Kyle Griffin said...

If impeaching Trump would "further divide the country," as Republicans claim, then what did the GOP think challenging Biden's election would do?

January 09, 2021 1:30 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "gender has consequences"

What they mean by that is that they think they have the right to dictate how others live their lives.

I posted "High religiosity in a society is positively correlated with higher social dysfunction like crime, teen pregnancy, high infant death rates and so on."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "H*sexuality is positive correlated with fake priests, pedophilia, and serial killers".
Gays are sincere about being priests, the priesthood turns some of them into predators. Pedophiles are almost always heterosexual males, gay males are statistically the least likely people to be pedophiles. Serial killers are overwhelmingly white christina heterosexuals.

I said "So, the traitor Mitch McConnll has said that if the House impeaches Trump he won't hold a Senate trial until Jan. 19th the very last day before Biden is sworn in."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "falsely calling people "traitor" and misspelling is also common of the mob that stormed the Capitol".

Anyone who still doesn't want to remove Trump from power is a traitor to american democracy. It was only religious conservative Trump supporters storming the capitol - people like you, not me.

Randy the hardcore psycho has a lot in common with those extremists

I said "has said that if the House impeaches Trump he won't hold a Senate trial until Jan. 19th the very last day before Biden is sworn in."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "if he does, it will never finish that day and the new Senate can convict Trump".

The whole point is to start it on the 19th so it can't be finished. If Republicans won't hold Trump accountable now they certainly aren't going to start doing it with the new Senate.

January 09, 2021 1:47 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "based on your incivility since midnight on NY Eve, neither are you".

What incivility? You keep accusing me of this and you never have any examples. I'll tell you what's incivil, is constantly repeating the lie that gays are responsible for all AIDS deaths when most of them are heterosexual and then being opposed to doing anything to lower the HIV rate. Calling me a gangrene on socieyt is incivil, lying and claiming I had a mental breakdown and blamed it on you is incivil. YOU are the incivil one, not me.

I said "If you can put a Supreme Court justice on the bench in a week you can impeach and convict in a week."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "probably not Trump to call witnesses if we turn into the Wild West and start lynching people without a trial, then the mob will have succeeded in destroying us".

It can certainly be done, corrupt Republicans obviously don't want to do it. You had no problem with the Republican Senate acquitting trump without a trial, no evidence, no witnesses, you effing hypocrite.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "and we've gotten Merrick Garland off the courts and on the other side of the bench where Amy Coney Barret can overrule him eight days a week and twice on Sundays!".

Republicans chastised Democrats for not picking someone like Merrick Garland to appoint to the Supreme court. Then when Obama did they blocked him like the hypocrites they are. Amy Barrett has announced that she will violate the First Amendment in her rulings by saying she sees her job as a judge to be about "bringing about the kingdom of god". Its no surprise you're thrilled by someone who is just as corrupt as you. Research shows trolls like you are sadists. You don't believe in making the world a better place, you seek pleasure in harming others.

January 09, 2021 1:48 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

A recent study has shown that "people of faith" are more likely to be murderers than atheists.

January 09, 2021 1:56 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"If impeaching Trump would "further divide the country," as Republicans claim, then what did the GOP think challenging Biden's election would do?"

I agree with you, Kyle, that impeaching Trump is the right thing to do, if nothing else, for the sake of historical precedent

no future President should think he could get away with something like this without consequences

"What they mean by that is that they think they have the right to dictate how others live their lives."

if by "they", you mean me, I don't want to dictate how others live their lives at all

I'm a libertarian

you may say I'm a dreamer

but I'm not the only one

hope someday you'll join us

and the world can live as one

what Randy means is that everyone most validate his delusion and, if they don't, the government should impose such validation

otherwise, you're dictating how he lives his life

"Gays are sincere about being priests, the priesthood turns some of them into predators."

this is completely ignorant

homosexuals choose the priesthood because the vow of celibacy is a good excuse for their suspicious disinterest in females

in their role as priests, they often have authority over young males and take advantage of them

it's not complicated

"Pedophiles are almost always heterosexual males, gay males are statistically the least likely people to be pedophiles."

you guys brought up John Wayne Gacy, for some strange reason

he was homosexual and a dedicated and involved Democrat

"Serial killers are overwhelmingly white christina heterosexuals."

they aren't, by definition

"Anyone who still doesn't want to remove Trump from power is a traitor to american democracy."

everyone wants him removed after his crimes on Wednesday

people have different opinions on how best to accomplish that

"It was only religious conservative Trump supporters storming the capitol - people like you, not me."

actually, those people are exactly like you

they think anyone who doesn't agree with them is a liar and a traitor

so do you

as I said, we're all so glad you are a foreigner who will never step foot in America again

"Randy the hardcore psycho has a lot in common with those extremists"

I agree with you

"The whole point is to start it on the 19th so it can't be finished."

if Dems are in such a rush

if it's so important

why didn't they stick around and pass articles of impeachment Friday night or Saturday?

oh, that's right

Pelosi needs to fly to San Francisco and have her hair done at some salon closed because of COVID lockdowns

"If Republicans won't hold Trump accountable now they certainly aren't going to start doing it with the new Senate."

Republicans don't control the new Senate, idiot

January 09, 2021 7:14 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...


"What incivility? You keep accusing me of this and you never have any examples."

you are fully aware of how to be civil

stop acting like the mob at the Capitol

"I'll tell you what's incivil, is constantly repeating the lie that gays are responsible for all AIDS deaths when most of them are heterosexual"

the chief means of AIDS transmission, since the 80s and continuing to this day, is homosexual activity

facts are facts

"and then being opposed to doing anything to lower the HIV rate."

we could start by not trying to get the government to impose the idea that homosexuality is normal

so, it's more stop doing something rather than doing soemthing

"Calling me a gangrene on socieyt is incivil,"

I've called a sexist and deluded idea, transgenderism, a societal gangrene

again, facts are facts

"lying and claiming I had a mental breakdown and blamed it on you is incivil."

again, facts are facts

if you're going to make claims like that, no one is going to talk to you

"It can certainly be done, corrupt Republicans obviously don't want to do it. You had no problem with the Republican Senate acquitting trump without a trial, no evidence, no witnesses, you effing hypocrite."

it's called presumption of innocence, you ignorant fool

again, you have no clue how the American system if justice works

it's the burden of the accuser to make a case

the accused doesn't have to

"Republicans chastised Democrats for not picking someone like Merrick Garland to appoint to the Supreme court."

he doesn't belong in the judiciary

he belongs in the executive branch so Amy Coney Barrett can overrule him

Republicans were right

Garland is where he belongs now

"Amy Barrett has announced that she will violate the First Amendment in her rulings by saying she sees her job as a judge to be about "bringing about the kingdom of god"."

she hasn't voiced any opposition to the First Amendment

she's an origionalist

"Its no surprise you're thrilled by someone who is just as corrupt as you. Research shows trolls like you are sadists."

sure, Randy

everyone's a sadist who doesn't favor allowing you to impose your views

"You don't believe in making the world a better place, you seek pleasure in harming others."

everyone delights is seeing self-righteous hypocrites like you get your comeuppance

that's not sadism

I'd actually prefer you learn to be civil

"A recent study has shown that "people of faith" are more likely to be murderers than atheists."

sure, Randy

there are many studies "proving" that your biases are right

i only everyone would listen to you, what a wunnerful woryuld it would be!

January 09, 2021 7:14 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Japan proves lockdowns don't work.

"When the Diamond Princess, a cruise ship suffering from an outbreak of covid-19, arrived in Japan in February, it seemed like a stroke of bad luck. A small floating petri dish threatened to turn the Japanese archipelago into a big one. In retrospect, however, the early exposure taught the authorities lessons that have helped make Japan’s epidemic the mildest among the world’s big economies, despite a recent surge in infections. In total 2,487 people have died of the coronavirus in Japan, fewer people than on a single day in America several times over the past week. Japan has suffered just 18 deaths per million people, by far the lowest in the g7, a club of big, industrialised democracies. (Germany comes in second, at 239.) Most strikingly, Japan has achieved this success without strict lockdowns or mass testing—the main weapons in the battle against covid-19 elsewhere."

January 09, 2021 7:20 AM  
Anonymous Super Spreader President said...

At Trump’s rally that preceded the assault at the Capitol, his supporters urged the crowd to “turn to the person next to you and give them a hug” – creating a “mass-spreader event.” That same day, the United States experienced its most deadly day of the pandemic so far: More than 3,900 deaths and 255,000 new cases were reported on January 6. And neither Trump nor his Republican allies have indicated any concern about the ongoing severity of the pandemic or that their failures and misdeeds have further exacerbated it.

On January 3, two days after the U.S. surpassed the milestone of 20,000,000 total reported COVID-19 cases, Trump tweeted that the number of cases and deaths due to the “China Virus is far exaggerated” because of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) “ridiculous method of determination.” Both Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert, and Dr. Jerome Adams, the U.S. Surgeon General, pushed back against Trump’s claims within a matter of hours.
More of the Trump administration’s vaccine rollout failures came to light this week: Despite Operation Warp Speed chief advisor Dr. Moncef Slaoui’s promise last December that 20 million people would be vaccinated before the end of 2020, only 5 million Americans had received their first dose as of January 6. Only 30 percent of the 17 million distributed vaccine doses have been administered so far. Public health experts warn that delays in distributing and administering the vaccine could cause hundreds of thousands more COVID-19 deaths, and the CDC forecast that the overall toll of the virus in the U.S. could exceed 430,000 by the end of January.
Trump’s private club in Florida, Mar-a-Lago, violated the area’s coronavirus safety restrictions during multiple holiday events, including a New Year’s Eve party that was widely maskless. A state representative has since called for the club to be shut down for flouting the mask order in Palm Beach County.
Further details of the Trump administration’s extensive campaign to exert influence over the CDC’s medical expertise continue to emerge. In late December, the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus released documents detailing Trump political appointees’ attempts to “alter or block” information in at least 13 reports on the use of masks, the virus’s spread among children, its transmission during the Wisconsin primary in April, and other key morbidity and mortality data.
Top Trump enabler Mitch McConnell objected to the extension of the paid leave mandate for U.S. workers in the coronavirus relief legislation passed in late December. McConnell’s earlier obstruction has also resulted in the allocated state aid coming too late to help the earliest rollout of the vaccine during the latest surge.
Despite the ongoing devastation, Trump and his federal allies continue to obstruct the orderly transition of coronavirus information to the Biden-Harris administration’s incoming team of public health experts. During a pandemic, every day can make a life-or-death difference. Trump’s callous indifference to protecting the American people has already taken a needlessly tragic toll on the country.

Trump’s failure to lead us through the pandemic will be among the greatest failures of his presidency. And although he will soon lack any governing power, the impact of his failures will continue to hurt the American people. President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris have outlined their extensive plans to combat the virus and speed up the production and dispersal of COVID-19 vaccines – and their leadership couldn’t come soon enough.

January 09, 2021 7:39 AM  
Anonymous The Inside Story of How Sweden Botched Its Coronavirus Response said...

One month after declaring the coronavirus a “socially dangerous” disease in February, the Swedish Public Health Agency essentially threw up its hands and chose to seek herd immunity rather than take serious steps to mitigate the virus’s spread, confidential internal documents show. That fateful—and fatalistic—early decision shaped Sweden’s entire response to the pandemic, from a refusal to mandate masks to a haphazard testing regime.

Sweden’s botched coronavirus response is no longer news: Even the country’s king, Carl XVI Gustaf, admitted in his annual Christmas address that the Swedish government had “failed.” But private emails seen by Foreign Policy, some of which have been previously reported in the Swedish press, reveal that Sweden’s health authorities were resigned to mass infections—so called herd immunity—all along, and no matter the costs. Throughout the pandemic, Sweden’s health authorities have said one thing publicly and something different in private about nearly every aspect of their management of the crisis. There were repeated public denials from the government that it deliberately sought to achieve herd immunity, even though that was the strategy pursued behind closed doors. There were misleading statements on the availability of testing. There was even continued public denial (despite private acknowledgement) of how the virus spreads, part of a pattern of apparent official obfuscation that’s lasted the whole pandemic.

And the result has been deadly. While countries such as the United States, Brazil, and India have made headlines for recording the highest number of coronavirus-related fatalities, Sweden’s death rate of over 80 per 100,000 people is among Europe’s highest and is around 10 times as great as those of Norway and Finland, and over four times Denmark’s. COVID-19 hospitalizations are now rising faster there than in most European countries, and Sweden is caring for more patients in hospital now than it did at the height of its first wave. By Dec. 21, Sweden had surpassed the United States and all major European countries in its daily confirmed cases per million. Things have gotten so out of control in Sweden that neighboring Norway, for the first time since World War II, put troops on the border to prevent Swedes from crossing over.

The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s Nov. 19 report concluded that Sweden fared worst among 35 European countries in multiple coronavirus management metrics including lowering the spread of infection, reducing people’s mobility, and discharging patients from intensive care units.

Sweden’s true handling of the pandemic matters, and not just because of how it has impacted its population of just over 10 million. Around much of Europe, and especially in the United States, Sweden’s hands-off approach to a deadly pandemic was, for some, a model to emulate. U.S. President Donald Trump’s coronavirus advisor Scott Atlas, for example, publicly hailed Sweden’s approach as a model, even as its catastrophic performance—especially when compared to its neighbors—becomes ever clearer.

Read all about it: https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/22/sweden-coronavirus-covid-response/

January 09, 2021 8:19 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...


Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Gender has its consequences".

I said "What they mean by that is that they think they have the right to dictate how others live their lives."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "if by "they", you mean me, I don't want to dictate how others live their lives at all".

You most certainly do. You called for trans school children to be assaulted for using the bathroom they want. You said you wanted to force gayness into "society's shadows". I could go on all day about how you try to force others to live their lives.

I said "Gays are sincere about being priests, the priesthood turns some of them into predators."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said"this is completely ignorant h*sexuals choose the priesthood because the vow of celibacy is a good excuse for their suspicious disinterest in females in their role as priests, they often have authority over young males and take advantage of them it's not complicated"

Its true that some gays go into the priesthood for this reason. They wouldn't be doing this if bigots hadn't drilled into their heads that its immoral to have a monogamous relationship with an adult male - its the church's own bigotry that brings gay men into the priesthood and encourages them to assault young males in order to hide their orientation. If Catholics don't want this to happen they need to let priests marry.

I said "Pedophiles are almost always heterosexual males, gay males are statistically the least likely people to be pedophiles."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said ":you guys brought up John Wayne Gacy, for some strange reason he was h*sexual and a dedicated and involved Democrat"

He was gay and his devout christian father was very anti-gay and said if he'd have known Gacy was gay he would have killed him. The demonization of him for a harmless trait he couldn't change messed with his mind and turned him into a monster. Same thing happens with some gay priests.

January 09, 2021 11:24 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "Serial killers are overwhelmingly white christian heterosexuals."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "they aren't, by definition".

Oh, the "no true Scotsman" logical fallacy, lol! That's a typical response for a liar like you.

I said"Anyone who still doesn't want to remove Trump from power is a traitor to american democracy."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "everyone wants him removed after his crimes on Wednesday".

An obvious lie. Trump has 20% or so of the American population in his pocket, they most certainly don't want him removed from power.

I said "It was only religious conservative Trump supporters storming the capitol - people like you, not me."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "actually, those people are exactly like you they think anyone who doesn't agree with them is a liar and a traitor so do you".

You lie. I don't think disagreeing with me makes one a traitor, supporting an obvious threat to democracy does, as you've done up until the very last minute. The rioters are your religious conservative brothers, they are nothing like me.

I said "The whole point [of McConnel's plan for impeachment] is to start it on the 19th so it can't be finished."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "if Democrats are in such a rush if it's so important why didn't they stick around and pass articles of impeachment Friday night or Saturday?".

One of the Republican congressman made a motion that prevented that. This is all on the Republicans, as always, they don't want to hold Trump accountable.

January 09, 2021 11:25 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "If they don't get it finished on the 19th the new Senate can finish it."

I said "If Republicans won't hold Trump accountable now they certainly aren't going to start doing it with the new Senate."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Republicans don't control the new Senate, idiot".

It still takes Republicans being willing to convict, which they aren't, you idiot.king of 2021 said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous accused me of being "uncivl".

I said "What incivility? You keep accusing me of this and you never have any examples."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "you are fully aware of how to be civil stop acting like the mob at the Capitol".

Like the mental child you are ou've given no examples where I've been incivil or acted like Trump's mob at the capitol. Bigots like you find telling the truth to be uncivil, that I'm not going to stop

I said "I'll tell you what's uncivil, is constantly repeating the lie that gays are responsible for all AIDS deaths when most of them are heterosexual"

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "the chief means of AIDS transmission, since the 80s and continuing to this day, is h*sexual activity".

That's a lie. Most HIV is transmitted heterosexually. That you keep repeating it and support gay marriage bans that make it worse is proof of your evil intentions.

January 09, 2021 11:26 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...


I said "[Wyatt and Regina demonize gays over AIDS]and then being opposed to doing anything to lower the HIV rate."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous aid "we could start by not trying to get the government to impose the idea that h*sexuality is normal".

Research shows discrimination against gays increases HIV transmission, just as it does in the black community. But of course you don't hear Wyatt/Regina demanding that the goverment teach that being black is not normal. The government refusing to implement your desire to make gays second class citizens doesn't impose any idea on you.

I said "Calling me a gangrene on society is uncivil,"

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "I've called a sexist and deluded idea, transgenderism, a societal gangrene".

Calling a core part of who I am a gangrene is calling me a gangrene. Me living as a woman and society treating me as a woman harms no one, you lie and you're uncivil.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "again, facts are facts".

You mean your lies are lies. Me living as a woman and society treating me as a woman harms no one. You demonizing innocent transwomen like me is immoral.

"I said "What's uncivil is Wyatt/Regina lying and claiming I had a mental breakdown and blamed it on you is uncivil."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "again, facts are facts".

You're unable to provide a quote of me saying that because you're lying. There's something fundamentally evil about a person who can justify to themselves repeatedly telling a lie like this.

January 09, 2021 11:28 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "It can certainly be done, corrupt Republicans obviously don't want to do it. You had no problem with the Republican Senate acquitting trump without a trial, no evidence, no witnesses, you effing hypocrite."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said it's called presumption of innocence, you ignorant fool again, you have no clue how the American system if justice works it's the burden of the accuser to make a case the accused doesn't have to".

I never said there wasn't a presumption of innocence you liar. The point is that its hypocritical for you now to worry about process when last January Republicans totally ignored and violated procedure and their oath to do fair and impartial justice when they announced before the trial they were just going to take Trump's positon on his alleged innocence from the start, allowing no evidence and no witnesses.

I said "Republicans chastised Democrats for not picking someone like Merrick Garland to appoint to the Supreme court."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "he doesn't belong in the judiciary".

That's not what Republicans were saying when they were chastizing Democrats for not nominating someone like him to the supreme court. You people are hypocrites.

I said "Amy Barrett has announced that she will violate the First Amendment in her rulings by saying she sees her job as a judge to be about "bringing about the kingdom of god"."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "she hasn't voiced any opposition to the First Amendment she's an origionalist".

Her announcing she sees her job as a judge to "bring about the kingdom of god" is voicing opposition to the First Amendment, fool. Originalism is a fake doctrine of legal judgment. The founding fathers themselves said they weren't wise enough to predict the requirements of the future and so they designed the constitution as a living document for future generations to intepret with their increased wisdom. The founding fathers were against the entire concept of originalism. Putting that aside, Barrett is no originalist as she has announced her intention to violate the separation of church and state in the First amendment.

January 09, 2021 11:29 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "Its no surprise you're thrilled by someone who is just as corrupt as you. Research shows trolls like you are sadists."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "everyone's a sadist who doesn't favor allowing you to impose your views".

Having the goverment treat LGBT people equally doesn't impose a view on anyone. You trying to make the government discriminate against harmless lgbt people IS imposing an anti-gay view on the public.

I said "You don't believe in making the world a better place, you seek pleasure in harming others."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "everyone delights is seeing self-righteous hypocrites like you get your comeuppance that's not sadism".

What comeuppance? I've been destroying your evil and dishonest arguments left and right. You calling for harmless lgbt people to be assaulted, imprisoned, and executed is sadism. You spreading the lie that society is better off without gays is sadism.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "I'd actually prefer you learn to be civil".

Child, you have repeatedly failed to point out where I've been uncivil. Me countering your lies isn't being uncivil, you constantly lying is. Grow up.

January 09, 2021 11:30 AM  
Anonymous This is what Rump calls "good people on both sides" said...

Amid the Rampage at the U.S. Capitol, a Sweatshirt Stirs Troubling Memories

For those who survived the Nazi death camp, pictures of a man wearing a “Camp Auschwitz” sweatshirt were painful.

https://twitter.com/BeschlossDC/status/1346971421134741505

And here is The Auschwitz Memorial's reply:

Auschwitz Memorial
@AuschwitzMuseum
"Camp Auschwitz"

Here is a lesson about its history. http://lekcja.auschwitz.org/en_1/

“It started with words, and it ended in terrible places. We know where it ended.”
Auschwitz survivor Max Eisen.

Image of train lines to Auschwitz

12:22 AM · Jan 7, 2021

January 09, 2021 11:45 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous keeps repeating this lie that gays are responsible for 36 million HIV deaths.

The truth is that most HIV is transmitted heterosexually.

"Worldwide, the majority of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infections result from heterosexual transmission.1"

Good people don't constantly repeat claims they know are false. Wyatt and Regina Hardiman do. They are not good people.

LGBT people are nearly four times more likely than non-LGBT people to experience violent victimization.

This is due to bigots like Wyatt and Regina demonizing harmless lgbt people. They take delight in knowing they're causing more violent victimization of innocent lgbt people. No surprise there, research shows internet trolls like them are sadists

"Online trolling correlates with sadism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism."

You can sure see the Machiavellianism in Wyatt and Regina, with their constantly blaming gays for all AIDS deaths while giving promiscuous heterosexuals a pass.

January 09, 2021 11:57 AM  
Anonymous How soon he forgets said...

Donald J Trump
@real Donald Trump

7/27/20

Anarchists, Agitators or Protesters who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any federal buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently enacted Statues and Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don't do it! @DHSgov

January 09, 2021 12:28 PM  
Anonymous They're talking about Trump and conservatives here said...


Research has suggested that people who exhibit psychopathic traits are likely to ignore lockdown restrictions.

Other “dark triad” personality attributes such as narcissism and Machiavellianism could also impact people’s willingness to comply with social distancing rules, a study suggested.

The research hinted that people with such traits may even have played a larger part in the spread of the virus, by ignoring restrictions such as social distancing, said Dr Pavel Blagov of Whitman College in Walla Walla, Washington.

Blagov’s study suggests that people with psychopathic personality traits such as meanness are less likely to comply with lockdown restrictions.

Those with psychopathic traits such as poor impulse control were more likely to boast of behaviours that put others at risk, Blagov told Psypost.

January 09, 2021 1:28 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

At Crismas Wyatt and Regina were trying to tell me what a good idea it would be for me to debate a pastor.

Not surprising they would recommend a destructive course of action for me given their hatred of lgbt people.
Research Shows Religious Counseling Associated With Higher LGB Suicide Risk

Lesbian, gay, and bisexual people who sought mental health counseling from a religious or spiritual adviser were more likely to subsequently attempt suicide than those who sought no treatment at all, says a study from the Williams Institute.

January 09, 2021 1:30 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

The Evangelicals Who Boosted Trump for Years Think Prayer Will Undo the Damage

Roughly 81% of white evangelical Protestants voted for Donald Trump in 2020, roughly the same percentage he got from that group in 2016. That means, despite all the damage Trump did during his time in office — the child separation, the bigotry, the racism, the exposed lies about his taxes, etc. — white evangelicals were never willing to leave his side.

They traded whatever positive reputation they had for a bunch of right-wing judges and constant lip service about their religion.

After Wednesday’s Capitol siege, you would think an organization representing a huge swath of those Protestants would do some serious reflection on their role in supporting him. Maybe they’d come up with a plan of action to make sure white evangelicals never again back a wannabe tyrant.

Instead, the National Association of Evangelicals — representing “45,000 local churches from 40 different denominations and [serving] a constituency of millions” — did to the country what Trump always did to them: They offered mild concern about the damage they’ve caused and suggested a solution that will help absolutely no one.

The group’s statement “denounces the violence” at the Capitol, which is really the bare minimum, and notes that “Some images from the protests demonstrate a disturbing conflation of Christianity and a nationalist ideology that is far from the way of Jesus.”

Are they only learning about that overlap now? Because it’s not news to the rest of us. White evangelicals and Christian Nationalists hell-bent on using the government to achieve their religious goals are by and large the same group. Books have been written about it. If they were shocked by what they saw, they stand alone in that.

They also claim the “insurrection epitomizes the rancor and polarization present in our country” — as if both sides are responsible for the Trump cultists who sieged the Capitol.

The NAE bluntly admitted some of this… before offering up a punchline:

The mob at the Capitol was provoked by leaders, including President Trump, who have employed lies and conspiracy theories for political gain. Evangelicals are people who are committed to truth and should reject untruths.

The evangelicals who spread objective lies about abortion, evolution, LGBTQ people, sex, atheists, the dangers of COVID, and saying “Merry Christmas” are in no position to pretend like they care about telling the truth.

January 09, 2021 5:10 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

But the kicker is what the NAE plans to do about this: Rather than making requests of their member churches to do anything of substance, they just want people to put their hands together and not eat for a little while.

"We call for a Weekend of Prayer and Fasting for the Healing of the Nation beginning January 8. We encourage our communities to pray for a peaceful transfer of power and for healing and peace in our country and world".

The people who caused our current crisis think prayer and fasting will get them out of it.

They’re delusional.

Without the same evangelicals issuing public apologies to their congregations for spreading election lies, or promising to stick to sermons about Jesus instead of culture war issues, or trying to understand why the rest of the country sees them as bigots, they’re just offering a perfunctory statement and sticking their heads back into the ground.

They mildly criticized Trump while doing nothing to disassociate white evangelical Christianity from Trumpism. The same hateful pastors who treat the pulpit like a political soapbox are going to keep doing it because no one’s telling them it’s unacceptable.

The NAE isn’t the Vatican. They can’t order churches to do anything. But apparently they’re too cowardly to even request that church leaders take actionable steps to stop their members from falling into the MAGA cult.

Nothing the NAE said in its statement will do a damn thing to prevent more riots or more Christian involvement in those riots. Which is exactly why they shouldn’t be surprised when the conservatives who sit with them in the pews have no ability to tell truth from fiction and end up joining a terrorist mob. Unless trusted leaders or loved ones talk sense into them, white evangelical churches will continue being part of the problem instead of the solution.

By Hemant Mehta

January 09, 2021 5:11 PM  
Anonymous @ladadri34 said...

Republicans wouldn't be talking about unity right now if Trump was reelected. Nor would they be talking about unity had McConnell not lost his majority. Show no mercy Democrats. Make me proud.

January 09, 2021 10:32 PM  
Anonymous Charles Booker said...

Impeachment is about accountability, not unity. The unity comes after accountability, deep reconciliation, and hard work, not before.

Reminds me exactly why we say no justice, no peace.

January 09, 2021 10:35 PM  
Anonymous Reality.Bites said...

The ones who admit he's unfit and unhinged, but pretend he wasn't that way till recently are claiming he was driven insane by losing the election.

Talk about your easily triggered snowflakes.

But we all know that he was never fit to be President. When you're talking about Republicans it's just a greater or lesser degree of treason. Every single one of them, even Romney, betrayed their country and continues to every day.

January 09, 2021 10:36 PM  
Anonymous Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said...

Let's be very clear.

The officials urging for no serious consequences after Wednesday's attack on our country - including the impeachment, removal, expulsion, and/or indictment of officials who aided, abetted, or incited the attack - are opening the door for it to happen again.

January 10, 2021 1:31 AM  
Anonymous Everything about the Trump insurrection was planned ... except failing said...

On Wednesday, supporters of Donald Trump pushed through police lines, stormed the U.S. Capitol, smashed windows, broke open doors, and went prowling through the halls with flexi-cuffs seeking congressional hostages. In the following hours and days, Republicans have expressed shock at this totally unexpected event, and Trump-appointed Pentagon officials have stated that the violence was “beyond their wildest dreams.” But Republicans have had over four years to understand exactly who Donald Trump is, what he is capable of doing, and who his followers are. Law enforcement officials at every level had not only a very good idea of the scale of this event, but the amount of violence it would bring.

The nation may be shocked by the visuals of what happened on Wednesday. People wearing horned helmets, T-shirts with Nazi slogans, and waving Confederate banners through the halls of Congress, made some draw parallels to the sacking of Rome by barbarian hordes. However, two days after this spontaneous event, the thing that’s become most clear is that it wasn’t spontaneous at all. It’s not just the culmination of everything Republicans have been doing for decades, it’s also an event that was launched, intentionally, as an insurrection against the United States.

Trump has been laying the groundwork for this moment from the beginning
Trump’s encouragement of violence from his followers goes back to before he began occupying the White House. That includes encouraging people to beat up protesters at his rallies, calling for and then deploying active military forces to face immigrants seeking asylum, praising Nazi marchers at Charlottesville who were complicit in the murder of a peaceful protester, and repeatedly making threats of violence against Black Lives Matter protesters and others. Trump has made it absolutely clear to his followers that violence—including deadly force—is perfectly acceptable, even encouraged.

Even if Trump had lost in 2016, he had already prepared his supporters to use violence as a means of overturning the results of the election. The same claims of election fraud and polling fraud had already been laid then, because Trump expected to lose. And the same calls for his supporters to carry out violent response and “monitor” the polls with armed poll-watchers had prompted the nation for widespread violence that was only halted by Trump’s surprising win.

Trump positioned officials to clear the way for violence in Washington, D.C.
Immediately after the election, Donald Trump began replacing Pentagon officials—and not just any officials. Trump explicitly replaced those officials who were directly responsible for the deployment and disposition of forces that protect the capital. Included in his targeting were those who had objected to the use of active military to attack peaceful protests over the summer.

January 10, 2021 9:16 AM  
Anonymous Everything about the Trump insurrection was planned ... except failing said...

Over the summer, Trump brought in unidentified forces including riot squads from the Bureau of Prisons and U.S. Marshals—none of them trained in dealing with civilian protests—to push back against peaceful marchers from Black Lives Matter following the police murder of George Floyd. In addition, Trump officials lead the Park Police, Secret Service, and others in what was frequently referred to as massive overresponse to small numbers of nonviolent protesters. All the while, Trump equated violence with “law and order” and used claims about shadowy antifa forces to justify going into cities over the objections of mayors and governors.

Through his time in the White House, Trump has tested the boundaries of using military forces—active military, National Guard, and irregular forces—to control civilian populations. It’s clear that he understands exactly where the controls for that power are located and exactly how requests for assistance can be met, or thwarted.

Trump’s November moves at the Pentagon now look like express preparation for exactly the moment that came on Wednesday.

Trump planned Wednesday’s event expressly to intimidate Congress
The placement of the event on Jan. 6 was, without any doubt, meant to intimidate representatives and senators during the count of the Electoral College vote. Trump meant this event to encourage objections to that vote—he said as much during the rally just before the assault. It’s clear from phone calls made by Rudy Giuliani that Trump wanted his supporters in Congress to object over and over, generating the maximum possible delay. And it’s clear from Trump’s own statements that he hoped to force Mike Pence into taking action beyond the law, forcing the ceremonial count to end without declaring Joe Biden the winner and pushing the next steps back into the courts.

The howling mob Trump unleashed was terrorism in its purest sense. They were meant to cause terror. To Congress. To interfere with the transition of power.

The event in Washington was designed to be violent, and it was funded by dark money
Trump was pleased with the numbers of attendees at his rally on Wednesday, and he certainly wasn’t turning away his normal crowd of racists, xenophobes, nationalists, and christianists. But this event was expressly built to attract those who Trump had already told to “Stand by,” including the Proud Boys and other Nazi groups who were invited to Washington, D.C. for a “wild” event.

January 10, 2021 9:16 AM  
Anonymous Everything about the Trump insurrection was planned ... except failing said...

One day after Proud Boys and other white supremacists invaded Washington for a violent demonstration, Trump made it clear he wanted them back. "Big protest in DC on January 6th,” tweeted Trump. “Be there, will be wild!"

Despite the roughly $500 million that Trump has raked directly into his own pocket through fundraising over false claims of election fraud, Trump didn’t actually pay for or organize the rally that launched the insurrection at the Capitol. Instead, that money came from … Republican attorneys general.

The Rule of Law Defense Fund (RLDF), a 501(c)(4) arm of the Republican Attorneys General Association (RAGA), helped organize the protest preceding the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol that took place on January 6, 2021.
Those who broke into the Capitol were not harmless clowns
While there were certainly plenty of people dressed in ridiculous costumes among the hundreds who invaded the Capitol building and the thousands who stood on the steps outside, none of them were harmless. Or funny. Included in the group were genuine Nazis, skinheads, militia members … and Republican officials.

And they made it clear that they were not there for a symbolic romp through the halls of Congress. They were there for Congress. Here are the words of one of those who invaded the House and Senate:

“Today the cowards ran as we took back the Capitol. They have it back now only because we left. It wasn’t the building that we wanted … It was them!”

How serious were they about capturing members of Congress and holding them hostage? Some of them were extremely serious.

This same crowd also constructed a gallows on the law outside, complete with steps and a ready noose.

This was not a spontaneous event, it was a failed coup
Planned for months, supported by new officials at the Pentagon, supported by big-money Republican donors, and cheered on by Trump supporters in Congress … this was not a spontaneous or unexpected event. It was a purposely staged event meant to disrupt the final stage of a U.S. election, throw the nation into chaos, and perhaps end with the televised murder of members of Congress.

As it was unfolding, Trump’s family was treating this exactly like what it was: something they welcomed and celebrated. The image of a gallows raised in front of the Capitol is on screen as Kimberly Guilfoyle dances.

They weren’t watching this event with disgust and shock. They were loving it. They were waiting for that moment when Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer might be hauled out to the roars of the crowd. They were waiting for blood. They were cheering for America to fall.

The only thing that wasn’t planned at this event … was failing.

January 10, 2021 9:17 AM  
Anonymous Republicans aren't the solution. Republicans are the problem. said...

An insurrection without consequences is just... training.

January 10, 2021 10:45 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Trump attempts a coup and now Republicans refuse to hold him accountable yet again. Who knows what kind of crazy crap he will try next and Republicans are happy to let him try.

History will remember when democracy was on the line Republicans continued to enable the fascist Trump and his right wing authoritarian supporters by refusing to hold Trump accountable.

As good anonymous said "An insurrection without consequences is just... training."


January 10, 2021 11:57 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

The message McConnell and Republicans are sending to any future Republican candidate for president is "You can do whatever you want, you are above the law.".

How long does American democracy last after the next time there is a Republican president?

January 10, 2021 12:15 PM  
Anonymous Adam Schiff said...

We can fortify the defences of the Capitol.

We can reinforce doors and put up fences.

But we cannot guard our democracy against those who walk the halls of the Capitol, have taken an oath to uphold our Constitution, but refuse to do so.

January 10, 2021 3:19 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"History will remember when democracy was on the line Republicans continued to enable the fascist Trump and his right wing authoritarian supporters by refusing to hold Trump accountable."

unfortunately for you, the loser you just vociferously advocated for President of a country you are not a citizen of, agrees with the Republicans

very unfortunate for you, you jackass

January 10, 2021 3:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha ha GOPer jackass

Enjoy being in the minority.

January 10, 2021 3:38 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

The U.S. just passed a record 278,920 COVID cases in one day. Now watch as soon as Biden is in power Wyatt and Regina will start condemning him for the out of control COVID Trump and conservatives put on this path. And then year after year they'll deceitfully say Biden was a bad president because at the start of his presidency COVID greatly increased.

They did the same thing with the Bush financial collapse. Bush crashed the economy and it took Obama a year to turn it around. Ever since then Wyatt and Regina have made the false claim that Obama did a bad job because unemployment rose and was very high at the start of his presidency.

Always the same pattern, a Republican president causes the catastrophe at the end of his term and Wyatt and Regina blame the incoming Democratic president for it for the rest of their lives.

January 10, 2021 3:57 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "unfortunately for you, the loser[!] you just vociferously advocated for President of a country you are not a citizen of, agrees with the Republicans".

Day after day, year after year I've seen Wyatt and Regina approach the news of the day in a way that maximally distorts reality, that paints things as the exact opposite of what they really are. This is a classic example, calling the winner of the 2020 election "the loser".

Of course Biden doesn't want to be spend time on this when Republicans are going to oppose it and drag it out. Biden would be happen to let congress do their job if Republicans would do theirs and send a message that Republican presidents aren't above the law.

With what should be automatic support for any moral person, Republicans could support this and it would be done in a couple of days. Its not Democrats sending the message that you can break any law you want, its the Republicans, the one that hypocritically claims to be the "law and order" party.

January 10, 2021 4:07 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Humouring Trump is what led to the attack on the Capitol in the first place. Trump's right wing authoritarian followers were planning another attack for Jan. 20th when Twitter cut them off and their right wing alternative Parler is also going off the air.

There was a high percentage of off duty cops at the riot. Republicans are letting authoritarianism gain ever more ground by letting it go without consequence.

Its time Republicans of goodwill did the right thing. 25th amendment Trump!

You want unity, unify around law and order with Democrats.

January 10, 2021 4:14 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I forgot one point I wanted to make about Wyatt and Regina's constant maximal distortion of reality [ex. Biden=loser].

This is bad faith argumentation they steadily rely on in promoting punitive Republican policies and yet they constantly suggest they're morally superior to a gay couple in a monogamous relationship. They are grotesquely dishonest day in and day out. No moral person can justify behaving that way as a normal course of their behaviour. This is proof of their sadistic personalities.

They say society would be better off without gayness and "transgenderism". How short and easy a hop it is from that to believing society is better off without gays and transwomen and trying to bring that about.

All I ask is that we treat each other fairly and try to better everyone's lives in an equal and fair way. Some people are strongly opposed to fairness and we need to expose those people for who they are and encourage them to live by the social contract.

January 10, 2021 4:26 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Just another example of Wyatt/Regina's bad faith argumentation and calling up down and black white:

On January 06, 2021 4:20 AM they said "no one has ever suggested the government discriminate against h*sexuals".

This is a preposterous lie, they want the government to ban gay marriage, to ban gays adopting, they don't want to let schools teach that its wrong to bully gays, they don't want schools to teach that gayness is natural, normal, and healthy variant of human sexuality for a minority of the population. They demand that gays be excluded from the protection of anti-discrimination laws but not christians.

Every time there is a law being discussed that can be used to discriminate against harmless lgbt people Wyatt and Regina are demanding it be re-written to do so. And then they've got the disgusting, heinous nerve to hypocritically post "no one has ever suggested the government discriminate against h*sexuals"?!

In another example of their wild distortion of reality they tried to claim the rioters at the Capitol were like me and not them. The rioters asserted against all evidence to the contrary that Trump had won the election. That's exactly like Wyatt and Regina asserting against all evidence they "don't know what you mean by "oppose" gays."

These two really couldn't be any more dishonest than they are and yet they hypocritically try to say monogamous gays are the problem.


January 10, 2021 4:51 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Sickening how Wyatt and Regina have hypocritically slipped from saying two days ago "his actions Wednesday were clearly impeachable" and "everyone wants him removed after his crimes on Wednesday" to now backing off and defending Mitch McConnell's corrupt plan to not take up the impeachment until June 19th so it cannot be completed.

I guarantee if enough Republicans were willing to do the right thing and convict Trump Joe Biden will not oppose it.

January 10, 2021 5:18 PM  
Anonymous Fired Trump Official’s Ominous Warning: ‘There Will Be More Bloodshed’ Before Inauguration said...

Chris Krebs, the fired former chief of U.S. cybersecurity, warned Friday there will be more bloodshed from supporters of President Donald Trump in the run-up to President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20.

Krebs said there had been no question in his mind that violence would erupt on Wednesday, when a mob of pro-Trump rioters — incited by the president and his allies ― stormed the U.S. Capitol in disgraceful scenes that shocked the world.

And Krebs cautioned:

There’s going to be more violence. There is going to be violence in the run-up to the inauguration. This is not over. There will be more. There are steps that can be taken by various individuals, and I hate using the passive voice there, so I’m just going to call it out. The president has to declare that this was a free and fair election. He lost. He still has time to do what’s right. It has to happen. There will be more bloodshed.

Trump fired Krebs, a lifelong Republican whom he appointed to lead the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in 2018, via tweet in November after his agency publicly debunked the president’s bogus claims of election fraud.

Krebs lamented the scenes that unfurled in Washington on Wednesday, saying this is “not an America that I recognize.”

“Call it what it is, this is insurrection,” he added, asking “what kind of example” it set to other countries seeking to escape dictatorships.

Watch the interview here: https://twitter.com/CNNTonight/status/1347752938568097792

January 10, 2021 6:27 PM  
Anonymous And Republicans do nothing to hold Trump accountable said...

Extremists Ramp Up Plans For Another DC Assault


The Washington Post reports:

The desire to prevent a repeat of Wednesday’s attack helped drive Twitter’s decision to suspend Trump’s account after years in which he challenged the company’s policies against hate speech and inciting violence. Concerns about more violent incidents appear to be well-founded.

Calls for widespread protests on the days leading up to the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden have been rampant online for weeks.

These demonstrations are scheduled to culminate with what organizers have dubbed a “Million Militia March” on Jan. 20 as Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala D. Harris are to be sworn in on the same Capitol grounds that rioters overran on Wednesday.

Read the full article.

The Capitol siege was planned online. Trump supporters now planning the next one - Amy B Wang

January 10, 2021 7:01 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Cultist Pastor: Rioters Were Part Of “Kingdom Of Satan”

January 10, 2021 Christianists, Trump cultists

“We’ve got to acknowledge that what happened Wednesday at the Capitol was not only a crime, it was a sin against God. The people who stormed that Capitol, the people who killed that police officer, were not a part of the kingdom of God, as some people claimed; they were a part of the kingdom of Satan.” – Cultist megachurch Pastor Robert Jeffress, who goes on to scream about not going after people who supported the attempted coup because that would be “cancel culture.”

January 10, 2021 7:03 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

EU Warns DC Riots Are Wake-Up Call For Democracies

Reuters reports:

The European Union’s top diplomat said on Sunday that last week’s siege of the U.S. Capitol exposed the dangers of allowing the degradation of democratic values to go unchecked and disinformation to spread on social media.

“What we saw on Wednesday was only the climax of very worrying developments happening globally in recent years. It must be a wake-up call for all democracy advocates,” EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a blog post.

“Everybody needs to understand that if we accept setbacks after setbacks, even if they seem minor, democracy and its values and institutions can eventually and irreversibly perish,” said Borrell, who speaks on behalf of the 27 EU member states.

January 10, 2021 7:05 PM  
Anonymous Val Wilde said...


Update: Woman Who Made Homophobic Bomb Threat Pleads Guilty to Hate Crime

A California woman now faces hard time for a federal crime after pleading guilty to a hate-motivated attack against students at the United States’ oldest Catholic school for girls.

Last January, Sonia Tabizada pleaded not guilty to federal charges after threatening violence against students at Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School in Washington, D.C. In a voicemail message to the school, Tabizada threatened to “f**king kill your kids” unless they reversed position on their alumni magazine’s editorial decision to include same-sex marriage announcements. She even claimed that bombing the school would be “a mission from God” for which she would bear no guilt.

It seems that Tabizada has changed her tune. Last week she pleaded guilty to “intentionally obstructing persons in the enjoyment of their free exercise of religious beliefs,” presumably in exchange for the charges related specifically to transmitting bomb threats.

Even with reduced charges, though, her crime carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison plus three years’ supervised release, and may also include a fine as great as $250,000. It is a devastating sentence that sends a clear message: Religious terrorism, even the threat of it, will not be tolerated.

Too often, “free exercise of religious beliefs” has been used as a cudgel for an evangelical Christian power bloc in the American political landscape to maintain supremacy over those of other religions or no religion. It attacks efforts at inclusion and attempts to create space for discrimination as long as it can be connected to “a sincere religious belief.”

But, contrary to the arguments often made within conservative Christian circles, the decision to accept and embrace members of the LGBTQ community can also be a form of protected religious expression. The decision to focus on the civil rights aspect of this case makes it a solid counter-example against such a misapplication of the concept of religious freedom.

January 10, 2021 7:11 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"Ha ha GOPer jackass

Enjoy being in the minority."

actually, I'm always in the minority here

TTF stands for teach the fiction and I counter with the truth

most people who are correct about anything begin in the minority

January 10, 2021 8:20 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

"This is telling: There has not been a press conference by a federal agency, YET.

D.C.'s mayor held a news conference. That's it.

I've covered multiple domestic terror attacks and almost always there was a briefing by local or federal authorities within 2 hours of the incident." - Dave Begnaud

"One thing that disturbs me a lot in the wake of the deadly terrorist coup attempt: four days later we STILL have not had a single public briefing by federal security officials. Not the FBI, not DOJ, not Homeland Security, not Capitol Police, not the military..." - E Huffman

January 10, 2021 10:22 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "TTF stands for teach the fiction and I counter with the truth".

Riight, like "no one has ever suggested the government discriminate against gays" or "I don't know what you mean, "oppose gays"."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "most people who are correct about anything begin in the minority.

*Citation required, lol!

January 10, 2021 10:27 PM  
Anonymous the king 0f 2021 said...

"the decision to accept and embrace members of the LGBTQ community can also be a form of protected religious expression"

yes, it can

I've pointed that out many times here

most homosexual and transgender assertions are metaphysical and beyond empirical proof

and, as such, they are religious

and everyone has a right not assent to this homosexual religion

January 10, 2021 10:46 PM  
Anonymous Be on the lookout for Republicans to steal the election again said...

"and, as such, they are religious"

Glad you agree that they (LGBT people) deserve the same religious protection laws that the religious get in this country.


January 10, 2021 11:10 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

I always have agreed with that

I've actually brought it up here several times

TTFers usually go ballistic at the very mention of the idea

as a religion, public schools will no longer be able to advocate for homosexuality

btw, atheism is a religion too

January 10, 2021 11:23 PM  
Anonymous Munching on popcorn while watching Republicans destroy themselves while they try to destroy the country said...

"as a religion, public schools will no longer be able to advocate for homosexuality"

Then the same would have to be said for heterosexuality.

And we'd have kids growing up completely ignorant of sexuality.

That conforms to your plan of keeping people ignorant.

At least you're consistent about something.

January 11, 2021 2:36 AM  
Anonymous Learn why Evangelical voters are delusional and support Trump - and why logic and reason will always fail with them said...



Let Me Explain Why Trump’s Core White Supporters Won't EVER Turn Against Him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTARAarSZlQ

January 11, 2021 3:47 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"Then the same would have to be said for heterosexuality."

you mistakenly believe there is an equivalence between heterosexuality and homosexuality

heterosexuality has an empirically observable purpose, to sustain life

homosexuality can be taught about as well

but only the facts, not advocacy

"That conforms to your plan of keeping people ignorant."

well, we shouldn't let them be ignorant of the facts that homosexual practices spread a disease in Western societies that has killed 36 million globally and that, if you engage in these practices there is no way to know if you partner has the disease

and that all societies, regardless of the religious beliefs that predominate in those societies, have traditionally discouraged homosexuality

all facts, and we need to make sure the kids know about them

January 11, 2021 5:58 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"have hypocritically slipped from saying two days ago "his actions Wednesday were clearly impeachable" and "everyone wants him removed after his crimes on Wednesday" to now backing off and defending Mitch McConnell's corrupt plan to not take up the impeachment until June 19th so it cannot be completed."

there is sufficient cause to believe Trump's actions are impeachable

but the case would need to built against him and he would be entitled to a defense

conviction would not be a slam dunk, unless "smoking gun" tapes could be found

he could say he was speaking metaphorically and didn't intend for the crowd to do what it did

"I guarantee if enough Republicans were willing to do the right thing and convict Trump Joe Biden will not oppose it."

at the end of the process, if the Senate voted to convict, yes, Biden would assent

but he is opposed to having that process

I think it can continue after Biden is sworn in because there are issues such as pension, post-presidential travel perks, presidential library

personally, I'm in favor of the House impeaching, to protect our democracy

but, Biden has his point as well

the problem with Randy, and he is like the mob that stormed the Capitol, is that he never thinks there is ever any room for varied opinion

and he thinks a justice system that recognizes constitutional rights is a technicality

the mob thought the election was stolen and if the courts don't agree with them, they should take matters in their own hands, ignoring the law

similarly, Randy has decided that getting Trump out is so important that we should shortcut our system of justice and convict him without a fair trial

both Randy and the mob believe in mob rule

the only difference is they back different mobs

January 11, 2021 6:21 AM  
Anonymous Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said...

Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger compared the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol to the Nazis and called President Donald Trump a failed leader who “will go down in history as the worst president ever.”

The Republican said in a video he released on social media on Sunday that “Wednesday was the Night of Broken Glass right here in the United States.” In 1938, Nazis in Germany and Austria vandalized Jewish homes, schools and businesses during an attack that became known as Kristallnacht or “the Night of Broken Glass.”

“The broken glass was in the windows of the United States Capitol. But the mob did not just shatter the windows of the Capitol, they shattered the ideas we took for granted,” he said. “They trampled the very principles on which our country was founded.”

Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, compared the Proud Boys — a far-right American extremist group — to the Nazis. Some Proud Boys leaders were arrested in the nation’s capital, before and after Wednesday’s riots.

“President Trump sought to overturn the results of the election — and of a fair election,” Schwarzenegger said in the video. “He sought a coup by misleading people with lies.”

Schwarzenegger called Trump a failed leader and said he took solace that Trump’s presidency was coming to an end and “would soon be as irrelevant as an old tweet.”

He called for national unity and vowed his support for President-elect Joe Biden after mobs loyal to Trump broke into the U.S. Capitol, causing a temporary suspension of the electoral count. Members of Congress later returned and certified the results.

Five people died, including a Capitol police officer. Scores of rioters have been arrested and many more are being sought after the brazen attack.

“And to those who think they can overturn the United States Constitution, know this: You will never win,” Schwarzenegger said.

“I believe, as shaken as we are about the events of recent days, we will come out stronger because we now understand what can be lost,” he said, adding that those behind Wednesday’s riots — and those that fomented them — will be held accountable.

January 11, 2021 7:50 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

the Kristallnacht analogy is flawed

the Nazis were trying to intimidate Jews by smashing shop windows

the mob on Thursday only broke glass so they could break in and destroy election ballots

January 11, 2021 9:42 AM  
Anonymous Munching on popcorn while watching Republicans destroy themselves while they try to destroy the country said...

You are so full of it.

How then do you explain what they were yelling about Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi?

The gallows and noose that was constructed outside the building?

The guys running through the Capitol building with with flex cuffs?

The Confederate flags?

The bombs that had to be diffused?

The fact that the ransacked a number of offices, stole Nancy's podium, but never even saw the ballots?

Your fanciful explanations make for amusing fiction.

January 11, 2021 9:54 AM  
Anonymous The GOP's circular firing squad continues firing said...

The day before a pro-Trump mob stormed the U.S. Capitol, an arm of the Republican Attorneys General Association sent out robocalls urging supporters to come to D.C. to “fight” Congress over President Trump’s baseless election fraud claims.

“At 1 p.m. we will march to the Capitol building and call on Congress to stop the steal,” said the message first reported by the watchdog group Documented. “We’re hoping patriots like you will join us to continue to fight to protect the integrity of our elections.”

After the attempted insurrection on Wednesday left a police officer and four others dead, several GOP attorneys general have distanced themselves from the robocalls, insisting they didn’t know about the campaign. Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall, the chairman of the Rule of Law Defense Fund, the nonprofit that sent out the calls, blamed the group’s staffers.

“I was unaware of unauthorized decisions made by RLDF staff with regard to this week’s rally,” he said in a statement to the Montgomery Advertiser. “It is unacceptable that I was neither consulted about nor informed of those decisions. I have directed an internal review of the matter.”

Those claims fell short for Marshall’s Democratic counterparts, who pointed to the number of GOP officials who have repeated the president’s unfounded election fraud claims.

“RLDF — and the Republican [attorneys general] who blindly take their support — have no legal or moral ground on which to stand here,” said a statement issued from the Democratic Attorneys General Association’s co-chairs, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey and Nevada Attorney General Aaron Ford.

The robocalls are the latest incident leaving GOP officials fending off criticism over their culpability in Wednesday’s riots. While Republicans have roundly criticized the violence, many have stopped short of condemning Trump for his role in inciting it or for insisting on political repercussions.

The calls were sent out by the Rule of Law Defense Fund, a 501(c)(4) nonprofit, which are often called a “dark money groups” by critics because they are not required to reveal donors. The group works to elect GOP attorneys general, Documented reported.

January 11, 2021 11:04 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"You are so full of it.

How then do you explain what they were yelling about Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi?

The gallows and noose that was constructed outside the building?

The guys running through the Capitol building with with flex cuffs?

The Confederate flags?

The bombs that had to be diffused?

The fact that the ransacked a number of offices, stole Nancy's podium, but never even saw the ballots?

Your fanciful explanations make for amusing fiction."

well, perhaps there were some who had malicious motives along those lines

heck, maybe they a lot of them did

no one really knows except lunatic fringe liberals, who likely have a scientific study proving just that

still, this was a far cry from Kristallnacht, under even the worst assumptions

the whole idea is ridiculous

those Terminator movies were amusing though

so, thank you for sharing, Arnold

January 11, 2021 11:38 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Hemant Mehta said"the decision to accept and embrace members of the LGBTQ community can also be a form of protected religious expression"

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "most h*sexual and transgender assertions are metaphysical and beyond empirical proof and, as such, they are religious.

False. You can easily test for the presence of same sex attractions with penile plethysmographs. You can test for a trans identity with questionares and reaction time. Both have been empiracly proved.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "and everyone has a right not assent to this h*sexual religion".

You do not have a moral right to oppose harmless gays. You do not have a right to a government that discriminates against gays. Gays have a constitutional right to equal treatment under the law.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "as a religion, public schools will no longer be able to advocate for h*sexuality".

Schools are obligated by the constitution to teach that its wrong to bully kids for being lgbt.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said Èbtw, atheism is a religion too".

Right, in the same way that "off" is a TV channel and "bald" is a hair colour. Moron.

I said "Wyatt and Regina have hypocritically slipped from saying two days ago "his actions Wednesday were clearly impeachable" and "everyone wants him removed after his crimes on Wednesday" to now backing off and defending Mitch McConnell's corrupt plan to not take up the impeachment until June 19th so it cannot be completed."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said ""there is sufficient cause to believe Trump's actions are impeachable but the case would need to built against him and he would be entitled to a defens conviction would not be a slam dunk, unless "smoking gun" tapes could be found he could say he was speaking metaphorically and didn't intend for the crowd to do what it did".

Just like I said, they've gone from "clearly impeachable" to "maybe impeachable". These hypocrites acknowledged Trump's obvious guilt and now they're slipping back into defending the indefensible. By next year they'll be claiming Trump was completely innocent and "all presidents do that". Traitors.

January 11, 2021 11:44 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "I guarantee if enough Republicans were willing to do the right thing and convict Trump Joe Biden will not oppose it."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "at the end of the process, if the Senate voted to convict, yes, Biden would assent but he is opposed to having that process".

Biden is only opposed because Republicans are unwilling to hold Trump accountable. Again, this is all about Republicans refusing to hold Trump accountable.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "I think it can continue after Biden is sworn in because there are issues such as pension, post-presidential travel perks, presidential library"

If Trump should be impeached then it should be done now, there's no valid reason to put it off until the next congress to allow Trump to incite another riot. Republicans refusing to hold Trump accountable are the problem.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "personally, I'm in favor of the House impeaching, to protect our democracy".

You're support for that is half-hearted at best, you were just defending Trump and making excuses for him.


Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "the problem with Priya, and she is like the mob that stormed the Capitol, is that she never thinks there is ever any room for varied opinion".

I am nothing like the mob, they are YOUR people. They want the minority to rule the majority, they want to harm innocent lgbt people, they are sexist and anti-woman, they want to harm the environment, force women to give birth, etc.
You're the one that doesn't want school children to hear that gayness is a normal, natural and healthy variant of human sexuality for a minority of people. YOU try to prevent the expression of varied opinion.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "and she thinks a justice system that recognizes constitutional rights is a technicality".

That's a lie, I never said any such thing. It is Wyatt and Regina who oppose the First and 14th Amendments and want the government to promote anti-gay religion and make gays second class citizens.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "the mob thought the election was stolen and if the courts don't agree with them, they should take matters in their own hands, ignoring the law similarly, Priya has decided that getting Trump out is so important that we should shortcut our system of justice and convict him without a fair trial".

You mean a "fair" trial like in January of last year when Republicans said they would violate their oath to do fair and impartial justice and they wouldn't allow any witnesses or evidence to be presented. You were all in on ignoring the law back then, you can't pretend to care about it now.

January 11, 2021 11:45 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

The Netherlands have reduced their aids transmission rates by 55% since they instituted gay marriage, source: the Dutch Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport.

Although the HIV/AIDS epidemic in San Francisco is mostly a phenomenon of men who have sex with men (the CDC's term: MSM), unlike Maryland, DC and Virginia, the epi profile for SF reported that the incidence of new infections among gay men was @1% in SF, as opposed to, for example 8% in Baltimore. An interesting fact, and worth exploring for our own communities.

Where being gay is more accepted, gay people are less likely to contract HIV.

SO WHY DO WYATT AND REGINA RANT ABOUT GAYS AND AIDS AND THEN OPPOSE POLICIES THAT MAKE IT BETTER????

Because they're evil sadists who don't care about making the world a better place.

January 11, 2021 11:52 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "still, this was a far cry from Kristallnacht, under even the worst assumptions

the whole idea is ridiculous".

There they go again, defending and minimizing the riot. And then they've got the nerve to say I'm like the rioting Trump supporters and not them. HYPOCRITES!

January 11, 2021 11:54 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Criminalizing gayness leads to people not being able to talk to their health professionals about their sex life, not receiving safe sex education and support, and not engaging in testing. It also leads to lower rates of commitment and higher rates of anonymous sex as more personal relationships bring higher risk of detection and penalty. So to claim that anti-gay laws help to combat HIV/AIDS is completely wrong and opposing these laws is 100% in line with our foreign policy goals around combating HIV/AIDS.


Wyatt and Regina condemn gays for heteosexuals getting HIV but they're the ones insisting gay men marry women and try to suppress their same sex attractions. Inevitably that's an unrealistic boundary many cross and they have promiscuous anonymous sex outside their ill-advised marriage to fulfill their needs.

IT IS EXACTLY THE POLICIES WYATT AND REGINA ADVOCATE THAT LEAD TO GAY MEN TRANSMITTING HIV TO HETEROSEXUAL WOMEN.

If they really care about people getting HIV why don't they encourage gay men to enter monogamous marriages????

January 11, 2021 12:00 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Anti-gay people die younger than those who are accepting

Research shows people who espouse anti-gay views die younger than those who don't.

"Anti-gay prejudice is associated with elevated mortality risk among heterosexuals, over and above multiple established risk factors for mortality," wrote the researchers, led by Mark L. Hatzenbuehler of Columbia University.

In fact, those who were not highly prejudiced against gay people lived an average of 2.5 years longer than those who were.

The respondents included in the study were 20,226 heterosexuals who participated in GSS interviews between 1988 and 2008, 4,216 of whom had died by the end of the study period.

The researchers wanted to make sure they were really seeing a link between earlier death and anti-gay prejudice — not something else that might be associated with being anti-gay — so they controlled for variables that could have confounded the results, including age, income, education, marital status, gender, religiosity, and even racial prejudice.

After implementing all of those controls, the researchers found a "2.5-year life expectancy difference between individuals with high versus low levels of anti-gay prejudice." Specifically, they wrote, anti-gay prejudice was "associated with increased risk of cardiovascular-related causes of death."
Why anti-gay people die younger

While the study was not designed to determine why people with anti-gay attitudes might die younger than their less prejudiced peers, the authors offered some educated guesses.

Anger is an integral part of anti-gay prejudice, especially among heterosexual men. "Physiological changes associated with anger, such as increased cardiac responses, have been linked to the development of hypertension and to coronary heart disease," wrote the authors.

In other words: People who get angry every time they see a gay wedding in the newspaper or a same-sex couple at the grocery store may actually have a higher risk of heart disease.

Further still, earlier research on racial discrimination has found that when people are prejudiced, interacting with those they are prejudiced against is stressful. And chronic stress is terrible for overall health. The researchers note that if stress responses "are continually activated, prejudiced individuals may ultimately be at elevated risk for long-term disease outcomes, as well as mortality."

The good news? Anti-gay prejudice is on the decline, and the new study indicates that this cultural shift may have positive implications for public health.

Sure, a more liberal attitude toward LGBT people won't boost lifespan the way quitting smoking or exercising will — but the researchers' preliminary evidence indicates that it can't hurt.

"It's a very good thing that Americans' attitudes toward gayness have been moving in the direction of tolerance and acceptance in recent years," writes Tom Jacobs, of Pacific Standard. "This research suggests such a shift may produce a major, unexpected side benefit: longer lives."

January 11, 2021 12:05 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

This lie that Wyatt and Regina are now telling that the rioters are like me and not them is a typical example of their constant bad faith argumentation, them once again claiming the situation is 100% opposite of what it really is. This is their standard approach to every debate, its just 100% dishonest through and through.

And then, obviously driven by a desire to harm others regardless of the destruction it does to society, they want to claim they're morally superior to two men in a monogamous marriage.

January 11, 2021 12:14 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"There they go again, defending and minimizing the riot."

I'm not minimizing anything

you have a redneck mentality without nuance or comprehension

you're just like the Capitol mob

"Criminalizing gayness"

no one here has ever suggested criminalizing homosexuality

your extremist views and assumptions and just like the Capitol mob, and frankly, as I've said before, much like Trump

January 11, 2021 12:18 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

If what Republicans did in the last impeachment was proper then they need to apply the same rules to this impeachment - ram it through, no witnesses, no evidence, just a summary of the cases and A straight up and down vote. It can be done in a couple days.

You know it would be pointless for Biden to hold a Senate Trial if Republicans aren't firmly behind convicting Trump. If Republicans won't do it now when its more critical they obviously won't do it under Biden later. The only way justice gets done and extremism gets reined in is if you unite with the Democratic Congress and get this done. Don't let future Republican presidents keep pushing this lawlessness farther and farther - experts on authoritarianism have been warning for several months the things Trump and his supporters in Congress have been doing are how democracies die.

January 11, 2021 12:22 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "no one here has ever suggested criminalizing h*sexualy".

There's that constant dishonesty again, insisting the situation is 100% the opposite of reality:

You frequently pretend to be against criminalizing same sex sex, but you can't help but let the truth that you're in favour of criminalization slip out from time to time

In this thread:


I said "Bad anonymous left out one situation where the Uganda law called for the death penalty - if the person was a repeat "offender".
That meant if you had sex with more than one same sex partner, or more than once with the same partner they proposed putting you to death."


Bad anonymous responded at December 11, 2009 3:55 PM: "yes, Robert said that too I didn't leave it out on purpose, I didn't know about it. Of course, penalties should increase with repeated offenses but the death penalty would be wrong".

And inthis thread: at December 11, 2013 2:10 PM Wyatt/Regina/Bad anonymous expresses support for India recriminalizing gay sex:

"here's a fun story: India's Supreme Court on Wednesday reinstated a ban on gay sex in the world's largest democracy"

January 11, 2021 12:30 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "your extremist views and assumptions and just like the Capitol mob, and frankly, as I've said before, much like Trump".

So, treating gays fairly and trying to reduce HIV in the gay community is an "extremist" view - gotchya.

That's them yet again claiming the situation is 100% the opposite of what it is. Trump has told over 20,000 false or misleading statements and Wyatt and Regina take the same approach with their poltics, they've told at least as many false or misleading statements as Trump.

Take the dozens of times they've posted about how gays should be locked down due to the 36 million AIDS death globally in all of history.

Its dishonest because Worldwide, the majority of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infections result from heterosexual transmission.1

Its dishonest because they want to ban gay marriage which makes the HIV rate worse

That kind of constant dishonesty from Wyatt and Regina is extremism, not any position I've taken and its exactly what Trump has been doing all along. Wyatt and Regina Hardiman are exactly like Trump while I do my best to tell the truth, I am nothing like Trump.

January 11, 2021 12:44 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

And let's not forget this "joke" from Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous in this thread at September 22, 2011 3:10 PM

"in the U.S., you can be executed for doing nothing in Iran, you have to commit a serious crime, like homosexuality"

And more recently at December 28, 2020 6:32 AM:

"the elimination of homosexual behavior would be in society's best interest"

How short a step it is from eliminating "gay behaviour" to eliminating gays. You can never get rid of the gays, they've been in every society throughout all of human history, they're obviously a core part of humanities genetic heritage. The christian bible does say gays should be put to death. And you can see Wyatt and Regina are not exactly opposed to killing gays - they are the extremists.

January 11, 2021 1:01 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Experts on authoritarianism have been warning for decades that the things liberal tech billionaires have been doing are how democracies die.

Hugo Black, Supreme Court justce he wrote in 1957 one of the concurring opinions that defined liberalism's defense of free speech for more than a half century.

"Doubtlessly, dictators have to stamp out causes and beliefs which they deem subversive to their evil regimes. But governmental suppression of causes and beliefs seems to me to be the very antithesis of what our Constitution stands for," Black wrote in the landmark case Yates vs. United States, in which the justices ruled 6-1 that revolting and reactionary speech was protected by the First Amendment unless it incited a "clear and present danger."

"The First Amendment," Black added, "provides the only kind of security system that can preserve a free government — one that leaves the way wide open for people to favor, discuss, advocate, or incite causes and doctrines however obnoxious and antagonistic such views may be to the rest of us."

Black's sentiments that speech, no matter how offensive or even inaccurate, was protected except when it incited imminent danger or harm became the rallying cry for generations of liberals. Scions of Yale and Harvard and the American Civil Liberties Union used Yates and other derivative Supreme Court rulings to argue that flag-burning, possession of obscene materials in one's home, and other offensive expression were protected by the Constitution.

"If the First Amendment means anything, it means that a state has no business telling a man, sitting alone in his own house, what books he may read or what films he may watch," the iconic liberal Justice Thurgood Marshall wrote in 1969. "Our whole constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds."

But a funny thing happened midway through the Trump era: Liberals suddenly embraced the tools of censorship. Bypassing First Amendment protections from government speech controls and instead privatizing sweeping speech and information controls, social media and tech giants purged from the dominating speech forums of our day — Facebook, Twitter and YouTube — content deemed offensive, inaccurate or politically incorrect. The rallying cry for censorship was "conspiracy theories."

Shortly before the efforts proliferated, the ACLU made a last-gasp defense of the First Amendment, worried that Facebook's early censorship efforts in 2018 might also constrain minority or liberal causes, like Black Lives Matter or repressed minorities around the world.

"What's at stake here is the ability of one platform that serves as a forum for the speech of billions of people to use its enormous power to censor speech on the basis of its own determinations of what is true, what is hateful, and what is offensive," wrote ACLU staff attorney Vera Eidelman in a July 2018 article entitled "Facebook Shouldn't Censor Offensive Speech." "Given Facebook's nearly unparalleled status as a forum for political speech and debate, it should not take down anything but unlawful speech, like incitement to violence."

Soon, the dam would break. Conservative conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones or audacious Trump allies like Roger Stone were censored or muted. The president's own tweets were labeled or disputed. Even bona fide news stories were blocked. Twitter, for instance, banned for days before the 2020 election accurate stories from the New York Post about contents of a hard drive turned over to the FBI agents investigating Hunter Biden, only to declare it a mistake after the election when it was confirmed Hunter Biden was under investigation.

January 11, 2021 1:11 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...


Suddenly, liberals like Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey were the deans of censorship, and conservatives who once fought flag-burning were championing free speech.

The legal status of these fights remains uncertain, in part because social media companies are privately owned, but at the same time they enjoy federal immunity under the Section 230 legal doctrine.

Trump's speech this past week before the Capitol riots, legal experts say, also may fall close to the line of Black's definition of incitement.

But much of the other censorship going on in America today, legal experts worry, seems antithetical to the long-held liberal doctrine that speech, no matter how offensive, inaccurate or despicable, must be protected.

In America, "you have to be willing to support the free speech of your enemies," the famed Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz told me recently as he decried a "mob rule" mentality and "cancel culture movement" sweeping America.

"The cancel culture is a direct frontal attack not only on freedom of speech ... it cancels due process," he warned. "It doesn't matter if you are innocent or guilty."

While in the most famous cases of censorship the Supreme Court has focused on government actions, a group of lawyers has begun to privately discuss whether a lawsuit could be brought on the theory that internet companies rely on federal immunity and public assets, like public spectrum and cable wires traversing public space, and therefore should be held to a similar First Amendment standard, according to interviews.

In addition, conservative activists have begun organizing behind the scenes to impose an economic penalty on the investors of Facebook, Twitter and Google, seeking to organize a mass exodus from those platforms to free-speech-friendly forums like Rumble, CloutHub and Parler while putting together funds to build a conservative infrastructure of mass data servers, new news media organizations and new social tools that fall beyond the reach of liberal censorship activists.

"We're just beginning, but the long-term solution to this for conservative is to build their own ecosystem that one day can rival what the left enjoys with Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Amazon," said one major donor to conservative causes.

Whatever transpires with those efforts, an inevitable political seesaw is under way with liberals embracing new forms of censorship and conservatives decrying. The change in sentiments was on full display Saturday when convsertaive Nikki Haley compared Donald Trump's ejection from Twitter to the acts of Chinese Communists.

January 11, 2021 1:12 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "and that all societies, regardless of the religious beliefs that predominate in those societies, have traditionally discouraged h*sexuality".

That is a gross distortion of reality, as is your standard argumentation tactic.

Religious oppression of harmless lgbt people is a recent phenomenon in terms of our evolutionary history. Hinduism is much older than christianity/islam and and it is not an anti-gay religion. Going back to the times of the Roman Empire, gayness was generally accepted for the most part as well. Anti-gay religion is a relatively new thing.

Going back to the earliest human societies, of those hunter-gatherer societies which haven't had contact with the modern outside world, I have not heard of one that was not accepting of gayness and that did not consider gays as honoured members of the tribe just like anyone else.

Modern humans have existed for 200,000, perhaps 300,000 years. Its only in the last few thousand that anti-gay religions have arisen. Gayness is present in thousands of animal species, it is deeply embedded in the evolutionary history of not just humans but of all animal life. Read more here about why gayness can never be eliminated from society or even reduced. Trying to pretend we can and acting that way is destructive for everyone, it makes the HIV transmission rate worse.

January 11, 2021 1:14 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

MEXICO CITY -- Mexico’s president on Thursday condemned the decision by social media platforms to block the accounts of U.S. President Donald Trump.

President Andrés Manuel López Obrador was quick to criticize what he called the censorship of the U.S. president.

“I don't like anybody being censored or taking away from the the right to post a message on Twitter or Face(book). I don't agree with that, I don't accept that,” López Obrador said.

“How can you censor someone: 'Let's see, I, as the judge of the Holy Inquisition, will punish you because I think what you're saying is harmful,'” López Obrador said in an extensive, unprompted discourse on the subject. “Where is the law, where is the regulation, what are the norms? This is an issue of government, this is not an issue for private companies.”

Presidential spokesman Jesús Ramírez doubled down later in the day, writing in his Twitter account that “Facebook’s decision to silence the current leader of the United States calls for a debate on freedom of expression, the free exchange of information on the web, democracy and the role of the companies that administer (social) networks."

January 11, 2021 1:15 PM  
Anonymous Just stating the obvious said...

Those are private companies running private servers with rule they design and administer themselves.

Republicans and libertarians believe governments should stay out of needless job-killing regulations for corporations, and the government oversight infringes on their freedoms.

January 11, 2021 1:24 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Experts on authoritarianism have been warning for decades that the things liberal tech billionaires have been doing are how democracies die.".

Trump just incited a coup attempt. He's made one authoritarian power grab after another during his term. American democracy is in crisis and banning Trump from Twitter and other social media is a prudent step in defence of democracy. Traitors want to allow Trump to use social media to incite another riot and have the coup succeed. What happened to your demand that business be free to discriminate against whomever it wants? Clearly its okay for businesses to discriminate against gays but not against would be dictators breaking the law.

If Trump wants to talk to the people he can hold a press conference or call into Fox or any one of dozens of right wing authoritarian media companies that would love to have him. Twitter and other social media businesses have a legal right to choose who can use their platforms.

January 11, 2021 1:26 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

There go Wyatt and Regina again, minimizing Trump's assault on democracy and the threat he presents. How far they've come from "No one wants Trump to remain in power" and "Trump's actions were clearly impeachable".

Again the pursuit of political power at all costs is what's driving evangelicals and Republicans. Upholding the rule of law and putting up a boundary for future presidents doesn't matter to them.

January 11, 2021 1:30 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

they've monopolized the information technology and, yesterday, move in unison to destroy a weaker competitor

funny how you think private companies should be free to do as they please and then you want government to lock down every business until politicians decide it's safe for citizens to assemble together

science has told these blue state governors that lockdowns are harmful but they won't listen to facts

currently, two of the places that have had the strictest lockdowns are the epicenters of the pandemic - California and London

that oughta put the nail in the coffin of the lockdown mania

January 11, 2021 1:33 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

The lockdowns would have had the virus under control if it weren't for conservatives opposing mask wearing and all COVID mitigation measures.

Look at Trump setting the example, mocking mask wearing, holding one large gathering after another with no social distancing or mask wearing. You didn't see any masks at Trump's rally or at the riot at the Capitol that Trump incited.


Trump and Wyatt/Regina told us only 60,000 would die and months ago that it would soon no longer be a pandemic. Instead almost 400,000 are dead that number is going to continue to grow exponentially until Covid vaccinations have been widely delivered. That's another thing Trump has botched with only few million vaccinated to this point when it was supposed to be 20 million.

If you're looking for someone to blame its obviously the conservatives and Trump who are at fault for the explosion of COVID.

January 11, 2021 2:10 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "they've monopolized the information technology and, yesterday, move in unison to destroy a weaker competitor"

Parler was full of people making death threats in support of Trump and planning another attack on democracy on January 17th and January 20th. Once again Wyatt and Regina Hardiman are defending the extremists who want to use violence and mob rule to keep Trump in power.

Google, Apple, etc. have a legal right not to sell the parler app and its advocacy of violence and tolerance of death threats. Amazon has no obligation to support an application that supported a violent attack on democracy.

It is just prudent responsible behaviour to refuse to associate with the mob at Parler and its operators.

Yet again, we see it is Wyatt and Regina who are in support of mob rule while they deceitfully accuse others of it.

January 11, 2021 2:15 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Randy, you want to deny defendant Trump a fair trial and anyone who supports a fair trial you call a traitor.

You are an extremist and have the same disregard for justice and democracy and the Constitution that the Capitol mob has.

You're just like them.

January 11, 2021 2:21 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Gayness evolved hundreds of millions of years ago as a way to relieve the pressure of sexual demands and pregnancy on animals including humans. Gay individuals play a role in mediating the sexual relationships of men and women resulting in a more varied natural selection process that enhances genetic diversity and creates more individuals with niche capabilities that enhance the tribe's survivability.

Gayness is deeply embedded in ancient evolutionary history and every human society throughout history because its made species more fit to survive. It can no more be removed from humanity than our nature of cooperation can be removed. Read more about it here

January 11, 2021 2:23 PM  
Anonymous The Right Wing Lunatics Aren't Done Yet said...

Federal authorities are warning state and local and law enforcement about threats of possible violence by right-wing extremists at a series of protests planned for later this month in Washington and other state capitols, according to an FBI document obtained by Yahoo News.

The situational information report produced by the Minneapolis field office of the FBI is based on information provided by what it describes as “collaborative sources,” and was issued the week before a mob of Trump supporters violently stormed the U.S. Capitol. It addresses concerns about rallies that the Boogaloos, a right-wing movement, plan to hold in cities across the country on Jan. 17.

The Dec. 29 report warns that “some followers indicated willingness to commit violence in support of their ideology, created contingency plans in the event violence occured at the events, and identified law enforcement security measures and possible countermeasures.” Specifically, the report describes evidence of credible threats related to events planned for Jan. 17 at the state capitol buildings in Michigan and Minnesota.

Those rallies are part of what members of the violent far-right and libertarian boogaloo movement are hoping will be a nationwide “armed march” on Capitol Hill and all 50 state capitols next Sunday. Though it’s not totally clear how many people are expected to participate in the boogaloo-backed protests, the Jan. 17 events appear to be the next major organizing effort by extremist groups following last week’s riots at the U.S. Capitol, which left 5 people dead, including a U.S. capitol police officer.

The FBI’s warnings about possible violence at Jan. 17 protests carry new weight in light of the apparent failures by federal law enforcement to adequately prepare for the violence in Washington last week. The FBI and an intelligence unit within the Department of Homeland Security DHS did not issue a threat assessment for the Jan. 6 protests, despite an abundance of evidence on social media in the weeks before showing that pro-Trump rioters had planned to storm the Capitol, according to the Wall Street Journal.

According to the Dec. 29 FBI report, earlier in December, some Minnesota-based followers of the Boogaloo attended other protests at the state capitol in Saint Paul “to perform reconnaissance to identify escape points and defensible positions in the event violence occurred” at the January 17 rally. These individuals reportedly “scouted general law enforcement presence” at the earlier rallies, and “also identified law enforcement sniper locations and considered breaking into federal buildings for use as firing locations, if fighting occurred.”

January 11, 2021 2:23 PM  
Anonymous The Right Wing Lunatics Aren't Done Yet said...

“One Boogaloo movement follower indicated the building with the snipers would need to be blown up in order to protect Boogaloo fighters in the event of a gun battle during the event,” the report states. Another planned to “put colored duct tape on the back of his body armor to appear as law enforcement and cause confusion.”

Though the report notes that these Minnesota-based Boogaloos did not mention any specific plots for an attack on the 17th, it says they planned to use violence if fighting occurred at the rally, and “At least one follower expressed his willingness to die for the boogaloo movement.”

Meanwhile, in Michigan, another follower of the Boogaloo movement “suggested the idea of using a gasoline-based device with a tripwire in Lansing, Michigan to cause a distraction while other individuals ‘take’ the capitol,” according to the same FBI alert. This individual “considered himself at war with the government, particularly with politicians and federal agents, and wanted to make a statement with the actions.”

Public affairs officers for the FBI Minneapolis Field Office and the FBI’s national headquarters did not respond to multiple requests for comment, nor did a spokespersons for D.C. Metropolitan police and U.S. Capitol police.

In an email to Yahoo News on Monday, a spokesperson for the Michigan State police wrote that “In general, we don’t discuss security measures, but I can confirm that we will be increasing our visible presence at the Capitol for the next couple of weeks starting this morning.”

A spokesperson for the Minnesota State Patrol referred Yahoo News to a statement issued within hours of the attack on the U.S. Capitol last week announcing that there “an increased presence of State Patrol troopers at the Minnesota Capitol in light of recent protests here and in Washington, D.C.

Over the last two years, the term “boogaloo” has evolved from a fringe internet joke referring to a second civil war to an extremist rallying cry that has been linked to a growing number of violent incidents and plots. Though the term has also been appropriated by some accelerationist factions of the white supremacist movement, it is most closely associated with a disparate network of anti-government extremists and paramilitary groups united by a fervent opposition to gun control and desire to bring about the violent overthrow of what they view to be a tyrannical government.

“Boogaloo movement supporters believe an impending insurgency against the government is forthcoming and some believe they should accelerate the timeline with armed, anti-government actions leading to a civil war,” explained the alert issued by the FBI Minneapolis field office in December.

January 11, 2021 2:25 PM  
Anonymous The Right Wing Lunatics Aren't Done Yet said...

Since the beginning of 2019, proponents of the more accelerationist wing of the boogaloo movement have seized on moments of civil unrest as an opportunity to incite violence and fuel chaos. Often heavily armed and sporting Hawaiian shirts and igloo patches, so-called “Boogaloo Boys” have been easily spotted at gun rights rallies, protests against lockdown measures aimed at stopping the spread of the coronavirus pandemic, and the nationwide demonstrations against police brutality and racial injustice sparked by the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis in May. A number of them have also been arrested for violent acts or plots related to those protests, including an Air Force sergeant who was charged with fatally shooting a Santa Cruz County deputy and a federal security officer during a protest over Floyd’s death in Oakland, Ca., and three men who were arrested in June for allegedly plotting to use firebombs and explosives to incite riots at a Black Lives Matter protest in Las Vegas.

The anti-government militia members arrested in October for allegedly plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer are also believed to have been tied to the boogaloo movement.

Recently, members of the boogaloo movement have begun organizing their own events.

Jared Holt, a visiting research fellow with the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, where he tracks extremist online activity, said he first started seeing chatter about a nation-wide pro-gun rally in the boogaloo forums he monitors in late November.

“The idea behind it was to have a huge showing of firearms and...for it to take place all across the U.S.,” Holt told Yahoo News, adding that “this is among the first major national events that has come out of the boogaloo movement.”

Around the middle of December, Holt said that boogaloo organizers seemed to be trying to generate interest in the Jan. 17 protests from Trump supporters and other far-right groups by using hashtags like #StoptheSteal to promote the events on platforms like Parler. This effort has only escalated since Jan. 6.

“This is a boogaloo movement organized call to arms that’s been spreading with increasing velocity outside of its usual communities,” said Holt, noting that he’s recently observed flyers for the Jan. 17th rallies circulating among many militia groups online, as well as “some run-of-the-mill Trump supporting groups and, interestingly enough, re-open protest.”

“I definitely think that if it continues the way that we’ve been seeing, it could potentially and very quickly become an active threat,” said Holt.

January 11, 2021 2:28 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "you want to deny defendant Trump a fair trial and anyone who supports a fair trial you call a traitor."

I want the Republicans to be consistent for once in their lives. They rammed through the acquittal of Trump in January of 2020 with no witnesses and no evidence presented. If that was okay to do then, its okay to do now. You can't have it both ways and say it was fine then and wrong now.

Republicans don't want a fair trial, they don't want any trial, that's why they're delaying as much as possible. They hypocritically condemned Trump's attempted coup and now when they are in a position to do something about it they refuse to hold him accountable yet again!

Republicans who don't want to convict Trump after he incited this riot ARE traitors.

January 11, 2021 2:31 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

If you can ram through a Supreme Court Justice in a week with opposition from Democrats you can easily convict Trump in a week with Democrats on side with that.

Its been one dictatorial action after another with this president and Republicans have refused to hold him accountable which has only emboldened him and future Republican presidents.

Republicans are betraying democracy.

January 11, 2021 3:15 PM  
Anonymous Just like Wyatt/Regina and evangelical christians said...

Man Arrested in Capitol Siege Asked God For Guidance First: “I Never Heard a No”


This is what happens when right-wing politics mixes with religious delusion. No one in this man’s life ever taught him God doesn’t speak to people. God doesn’t offer advice. God doesn’t respond because God doesn’t exist. Those are just voices in your head. You need a better foundation for your ethics.

Instead, they told him consulting with God was a perfectly normal thing to do, and he eventually used that as justification to join in the Capitol siege. This attempted coup could not have happened without the active participation of Christian Nationalists who have been brainwashed into thinking they’re victims of persecution by pastors who will never admit their role in this tragedy.

The multitude of evangelical christians who said Trump was chosen and endorsed by their god helped build this attack on democracy.

January 11, 2021 3:22 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"I want the Republicans to be consistent for once in their lives. They rammed through the acquittal of Trump in January of 2020 with no witnesses and no evidence presented. If that was okay to do then, its okay to do now. You can't have it both ways and say it was fine then and wrong now."

Randy, sometimes I almost feel sorry for you. The defendant has a right to bring witnesses if he thinks he will help his case. It's not an obligation. Trump was acquitted because there was evidence of crimes or misdemeanors that the Senators felt warranted removal from office. It was clear the constituents of the Senators felt the same since Trump's approval ratings went up during the trial.

"Republicans don't want a fair trial, they don't want any trial, that's why they're delaying as much as possible. They hypocritically condemned Trump's attempted coup and now when they are in a position to do something about it they refuse to hold him accountable yet again!"

it doesn't matter what Republicans "want". a defendant has a right to a fair trial and the prosecution has to properly prepare for it. removing him from office within a week is not doable unless the Senate conducts a kangaroo court

"Republicans who don't want to convict Trump after he incited this riot ARE traitors."

that's what the Capitol mob said about people who didn't want to decertify the vote

calling anyone who doesn't completely agree with them a "traitor" is part of their MO

it's part of your MO too!

you're just like them!

"Gayness evolved hundreds of millions of years ago as a way to relieve the pressure of sexual demands and pregnancy on animals including humans."

homosexuals don't reproduce

there is no way for evolutionary forces to "evolve" homosexuality

"Gay individuals play a role in mediating the sexual relationships of men and women resulting in a more varied natural selection process that enhances genetic diversity and creates more individuals with niche capabilities that enhance the tribe's survivability."

give us an example

(this should be fuuuuny!)

"Gayness is deeply embedded in ancient evolutionary history and every human society throughout history because its made species more fit to survive."

would only work if it made the individual more fit to survive

"It can no more be removed from humanity than our nature of cooperation can be removed."

it'll always be around like laziness and slovenliness but that doesn't mean it's normal

January 11, 2021 3:33 PM  
Anonymous Modern technology has made life too easy - too many stupid people reach the age of reproduction said...

"would only work if it made the individual more fit to survive"

You have a very simplistic, incomplete, and incorrect understanding of evolution.

Traits also evolve that make the GROUP more fit to survive, rather than just the individual. That's how things like altruism, communication, and cooperation evolve in some species. Otherwise, all species would just evolve to the largest, strongest, most sexually active, and most belligerent individuals - these would all but guarantee that any other individuals would only pass their genes on at very low levels.

There have been a number of studies confirming the FBOE (Fraternal Birth Order Effect - i.e. the chances of a male child being homosexual increases with the number of older brothers) and it may be due to an immunological response, not a DNA response. This indicates that the best way to reduce the number of male homosexuals is to limit mothers to one male child - severely limiting the chances the mother's immunological response can interfere with the child's pre-birth brain development:

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2019.2907?af=R&

The fraternal birth order effect (FBOE) is the finding that older brothers increase the probability of homosexuality in later-born males,1 and the female fecundity effect (FFE) is the finding that the mothers of homosexual males produce more offspring than the mothers of heterosexual males.2 There is a considerable amount of empirical evidence for the reproducibility of the FBOE [2–5] and the FFE [6–8]. Each effect relates to a specific biological theory of the aetiology of homosexuality in males—an immunological theory, in the case of the FBOE [9,10], and a genetic theory, in the case of the FFE [11].

The maternal immune hypothesis (MIH) is the hypothesis that the FBOE reflects the progressive immunization of some mothers to male-specific antigens and the consequent effects of anti-male antibodies on sexual differentiation in the brain in male fetuses. According to this hypothesis, cells (or cell fragments) from male fetuses enter the maternal circulation during childbirth or perhaps earlier in pregnancy. These cells include substances that occur primarily on the surfaces of male brain cells, for example, the Y-linked membrane proteins NLGN4Y and PCDH11Y. The mother's immune system recognizes these male-specific molecules as foreign and produces antibodies to them. In subsequent male pregnancies, her antibodies cross the placental barrier and enter the fetal brain. Once in the brain, these antibodies bind to male-specific molecules on the surface of neurons and prevent these neurons from ‘wiring-up’ in a fully male-typical pattern. In consequence, the individual will later be attracted to men rather than to women. There has only been one laboratory test of the MIH, but its results were consistent with the hypothesis. This test found higher concentrations of anti-NLGN4Y antibody in the sera of mothers of homosexual men, especially those with older brothers, compared with the concentrations for mothers of heterosexual control subjects [10].

January 11, 2021 4:50 PM  
Anonymous Republicans aren't the solution. Republicans are the problem. said...

"calling anyone who doesn't completely agree with them a "traitor" is part of their MO
it's part of your MO too!
you're just like them!"

Not all. Priya never broke into a government building, ransacked it, and tried to steal a valid election because she naively believed a bunch of conspiracy theories.

There's a HUGE difference - it just takes not being an idiot to see it.

The rioters had their chance to prove the election was stolen in 5 dozen court cases - most of which were thrown out of court because they had no evidence.

After 60 failed attempts at trying to prove something and failing, most people would start to re-examine their position and start to question the validity of their original assumption.

Not Republicans. The just come up with a new, larger conspiracy theory that includes the courts as well.

We used to have insane asylums where we could keep the mentally ill safely away from the rest of society where they could harm other people.

Now they find each other on Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, Reddit, Parler and other social media sights and feed each other's psychosis until they form a mob that can do some real damage.

January 11, 2021 4:59 PM  
Anonymous Republicans aren't the solution. Republicans are the problem. said...

Correction - it should be "Not at all," not "Not all..."

January 11, 2021 5:03 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "It doesn't matter what Republicans "want". a defendant has a right to a fair trial and the prosecution has to properly prepare for it. removing him from office within a week is not doable unless the Senate conducts a kangaroo court".

Republican Senators insisted there be no witnesses and no evidence the last time Trump was impeached. If that was all fair and good its all fair and good to do the same this time. With Democrats onside Republicans could easily try, convict, and remove Trump from power in a couple of days. As in the past they don't want to hold him accountable for his dictatorial actions and they don't want to send the message that Republican presidents aren't above the law. Republicans are enemies of democracy just like Trump.

I posted "Gayness evolved hundreds of millions of years ago as a way to relieve the pressure of sexual demands and pregnancy on animals including humans. Gay individuals play a role in mediating the sexual relationships of men and women resulting in a more varied natural selection process that enhances genetic diversity and creates more individuals with niche capabilities that enhance the tribe's survivability."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "h*sexuals don't reproduct.[sic] there is no way for evolutionary forces to "evolve" h*sexuality"

Random mutations allowed gay males to develop millions of years ago. The presence of gays relieved excessive pressure of sexual demands and pregnancy on females that would otherwise run them ragged, this helped the tribe survive and the gay genes were selected for by that process. Obviously gayness wouldn't exist in virtually every animal species humans have looked for it in, nor in every human society throughout history if it weren't deeply embedded in our genes. Here's a detailed explanation of how this could work

January 11, 2021 6:07 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

I said "Gay individuals play a role in mediating the sexual relationships of men and women resulting in a more varied natural selection process that enhances genetic diversity and creates more individuals with niche capabilities that enhance the tribe's survivability."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "give us an example"

Gay males being socially comfortable with females and sexually involved with males can lead females to have sex with a male they otherwise wouldn't consider, one the gay male has found desirable traits in that she hasn't appreciated. By helping males that have valuable traits that wouldn't otherwise have a chance to mate do so gay males help select genetic traits that make the tribe more fit to survive as a whole.

Further, bisexual males who otherwise do not get a chance to mate with a female can sexually endear themselves to a male with a female mate. With the mated male keeping the bisexual male near, he gets a chance to mate with a female the "heterosexual" male otherwise would prevent. The "heteorosexual" male may encourge or allow his female mate to have sex with the bisexual male out of friendship. Again, the richer environment for selecting genetics in the offspring helps the tribe adapt better to their current ecosystem.

"Gayness is deeply embedded in ancient evolutionary history and every human society throughout history because its made species more fit to survive."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "[gayness]'ll always be around like laziness and slovenliness but that doesn't mean it's normal".
If its always around its obviously normal and natural for a minority of the population, just like being left-handed. It is immoral and destructive to society for you to oppose monogamous gay marriages.

January 11, 2021 6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The most plausible explanation for how male gayness is selected for is the following:

https://www.bipartisanalliance.com/2019/01/evolutionary-perspectives-on-male.html

The theory is that there are several alleles of a gene that determine a males position along a hyper-masculine/feminine continuum.
Inheritance of several such alleles produces gayness. Single alleles make for greater sensitivity, empathy, tendermindedness, and kindness. These traits make heterosexual carriers of the genes better fathers and more attractive mates and thus enhance reproductive success.

The typical male without gayness related genes may be too masculine for optimal reproductive success Ones who inherit none of these alleles are hyper-masculine and lacking in the sensitivity, kindness, empathy, and other traits that make them most attractive to females(such males might be very ruthless, selfish, cruel etc.)

As males at either end of the continuum have a negative impact on reproductive success nature tends to try and find an equilibrium. Males that are on either end of the spectrum continue to be selected for as well because variability is also key to reproductive success - humans were evolved to fit various niches and a variety of personality types do this best. Thus there over the millenium there continues to be a vascilation between femininity and hypermasculinity in males as traits are selected for that both balance reproductive success and the need to have a variety of personality types to fit in a variety of niches.

January 11, 2021 6:09 PM  
Anonymous The Loser Republican Lunatics Aren't Done Yet said...

The FBI has received information indicating "armed protests" are being planned at all 50 state capitols and the US Capitol in Washington, DC in the days leading up to President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration on January 20, according to an internal bulletin obtained by CNN.

"Armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitols from 16 January through at least 20 January, and at the US Capitol from 17 January through 20 January," it says.
The bulletin, which was circulated after rioters stormed the US Capitol last week, also suggests there are threats of an "uprising" if President Donald Trump is removed via the 25th Amendment before inauguration day.

"On 8 January, the FBI received information on an identified group calling for others to join them in 'storming' state, local and federal government courthouses and administrative buildings in the event POTUS is removed as President prior to Inauguration Day. This identified group is also planning to 'storm' government offices including in the District of Columbia and in every state, regardless of whether the states certified electoral votes for Biden or Trump, on 20 January," the bulletin adds.

Additionally, the FBI is tracking reports of "various threats to harm President-Elect Biden ahead of the presidential inauguration," the bulletin states.
"Additional reports indicate threats against VP-Elect Harris and Speaker Pelosi," it adds.

January 11, 2021 6:11 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Trump Supporters Vote For “Total War” In Poll

Right Wing Watch reports:

A prominent Proud Boys Telegram channel is “Proud Boys: Uncensored,” which is reportedly being operated by the leader of the New Hampshire chapter of the Proud Boys, Todd M. Clark. The fascism-promoting channel has continued to incite violence in the wake of the attack on the Capitol, claiming that “the difference between a patriot and a rebel depends on who wins the war.”

The channel also encouraged its followers to target politicians. It posted a clip of Sen. Lindsey Graham being harassed by an angry mob of Trump supporters at the airport with the caption, “They’re no longer safe in public. Never let these system agents known a moment of peace.” Shortly thereafter, the “Proud Boys: Uncensored” channel polled its followers on whether or not they wanted “total war.” More than 10,500 people voted in the poll, 75 percent of whom voted “yes.”

January 11, 2021 7:12 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Freshman GOP Rep: Another Rep Told Me He Voted To Overturn Election Result Because He Feared For Family’s Safety


Freshman GOP Rep. Peter Meijer writes:

Before the assault, Trump had addressed the crowd and urged his loyalists to march on the Capitol, “to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones … give them the pride and boldness they need to take back our country.”

They took something alright. Hours later, after the Capitol was cleared of insurrectionists, with windows shattered and the smell of tear gas lingering, the consequences of his dangerous lies became clear. As we moved to accept Arizona’s electors, a fellow freshman lingered near a voting terminal, voting card in hand.

My colleague told me that efforts to overturn the election were wrong, and that voting to certify was a constitutional duty. But my colleague feared for family members, and the danger the vote would put them in. Profoundly shaken, my colleague voted to overturn.

Read the full op-ed.

January 11, 2021 7:16 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Televangelist Gets Death Threats And “Vulgar” Emails After Apologizing For Prophesying Trump Would Win


Televangelist Jeremiah Johnson writes on Facebook:

Over the last 72 hours, I have received multiple death threats and thousands upon thousands of emails from Christians saying the nastiest and most vulgar things I have ever heard toward my family and ministry. I have been labeled a coward, sellout, a traitor to the Holy Spirit, and cussed out at least 500 times. We have lost ministry partners every hour and counting.

After publicly repenting on January 7th, I fully expected to be called a false prophet etc in some circles but I could have never dreamed in my wildest imagination that so much satanic attack and witchcraft would come from charismatic/prophetic people. I have been flabbergasted at the barrage of continued conspiracy theories being sent every minute our way and the pure hatred being unleashed.

To my great heartache, I’m convinced parts of the prophetic/charismatic movement are far SICKER than I could have ever dreamed of. I truthfully never realized how absolutely triggered and ballistic thousands and thousands of saints get about Donald Trump. It’s terrifying! It’s full of idolatry! If I helped to prop up this idealogy concerning him, I will need to repent again and stir up even more hell.

January 11, 2021 7:21 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

modern technology, Randy, and unplausible (assuming you're different people)

thanks for the explanation of how some theorize homosexuality can make it in the evolutionary pool

very interesting

"Not all. Priya never broke into a government building, ransacked it, and tried to steal a valid election because she naively believed a bunch of conspiracy theories.

There's a HUGE difference - it just takes not being an idiot to see it."

well, yeah, there's a big difference

Randy wants to convict a man without a fair trial and due process

actually, that's probably worse than trespassing in Nancy Pelosi's office and throwing her papers in the air

"The rioters had their chance to prove the election was stolen in 5 dozen court cases - most of which were thrown out of court because they had no evidence."

no argument there

but Randy makes wild assertions up all the time without evidence

"After 60 failed attempts at trying to prove something and failing, most people would start to re-examine their position and start to question the validity of their original assumption."

Randy fails to make his point regularly and keeps coming back for more

"We used to have insane asylums where we could keep the mentally ill safely away from the rest of society where they could harm other people."

then, they let Randy out

"Now they find each other on Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, Reddit, Parler and other social media sights and feed each other's psychosis until they form a mob that can do some real damage."

sounds a lot like Randy and TTF!

January 11, 2021 7:35 PM  
Anonymous The Loser Republican Lunatics Aren't Done Yet said...

"[Priya] wants to convict a man without a fair trial and due process"

No she doesn't.

There is plenty of evidence of Trump's lies and undermining of the public trust, confidence in the elections, compromising of the elections, the mail system, pressuring election officials to change the outcomes of elections in their states, and whipping is followers into a frenzy.

What we can see now is that Trump has spent the last year lying to the public by telling them the "only way he can lose is if the election is rigged," he's pressured VP Pence to unconstitutionally disregard the votes of some states, and told Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."

What he hasn't done in public on Twitter or in front of cameras has been revealed in tapes and transcripts. A number of potential victims of his undermining democracy were hiding under the Capitol building last Wednesday. They are all first-hand witnesses to his crimes.

It should take a court very long at all to convict him of the obvious.

January 11, 2021 10:20 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Priya wants to convict a man without a fair trial and due process".

No, I want Republicans to hold this Senate trial the same way they did the last one, no witnesses, no evidence. You and Republicans insisted on that last time, you can't say there's something wrong with it this time. Hypocrites!

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "actually, that's probably worse than trespassing in Nancy Pelosi's office and throwing her papers in the air.

Police officers were beaten and killed, they urinated and defecated all over the Capitol, they went around looking for Mike Pence and other Congress people to kill them. And you're trying to minimize it and defend it yet again.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "but Priya makes wild assertions up all the time without evidence".

Liar. You give no examples of this because there are none.

Good anonymous said "After 60 failed attempts at trying to prove something and failing, most people would start to re-examine their position and start to question the validity of their original assumption."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "Priya fails to make her point regularly and keeps coming back for more".

No, its you who fails to make your point, like where you blame all gays for all AIDS deaths when most HIV infections are transmitted heterosexually How many dozen's of times did you post that lie and call for a lockdown on gays when gay marriage bans raise the HIV rate? Too many to count. You are inherently dishonest and sadistic.

January 11, 2021 10:21 PM  
Anonymous This is your typical Trump aupporter, right wing authoritiarians, all of them. said...

In Video Full of Lies, Minnesota Pastor Urges Trump to “Enact Martial Law”

By Hemant Mehta


If you want a glimpse of how some MAGA cultist pastors are responding to last week’s Capitol siege, here’s Pastor Darryl Knappen of Minnesota’s Cornerstone Church spreading dangerous lie after dangerous lie after dangerous lie in a video released over the weekend.

I’m not posting the entire transcript because it’s 13 minutes of drivel, but in it, he says:

That Donald Trump must “enact martial law and the Insurrection Act, perhaps both in the next few days” (i.e. using the military against citizens).
That we are “seeing the deep state begin to fight back against this president.”
That there was election fraud that “leads all the way back to Barack Obama using agents in Italy and other nations as well.”
That Obama must therefore be “arrested and tried.”
That Mike Pence “will also be arrested for treason.”
That the entire mainstream media is “lying to you.”
That George Soros is funding the “armed camp” of Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
That he was seriously considering wearing his “black robe today and open it up and show my AR-15 underneath it.”

This is what Christian Nationalism looks like. This is why there were Christians (with “Jesus” banners and crosses) at the siege. This is what happens when right-wing extremism breaks your brain to the point where you wrongly believe you’re being persecuted without evidence.

Knappen, by the way, sued the state in August over its COVID restrictions because he claimed he had a religious right to ignore social distancing and face mask mandates. He foolishly thinks Christianity makes you immune to the virus and that the restrictions somehow affected him more than everyone else, even though the rules were applied fairly.

This is what happens when your religion overrides common sense. You become susceptible to the worst ideologies.

January 11, 2021 10:29 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"There is plenty of evidence of Trump's lies and undermining of the public trust, confidence in the elections, compromising of the elections, the mail system, pressuring election officials to change the outcomes of elections in their states, and whipping is followers into a frenzy."

interesting

presenting the evidence

allowing for cross and statements

allowing Trump to bring witnesses

it would all take more time than exists

the humorous part is that Randy rants about how the Senate decided how to vote at the first impeachment trial before the the trial and heard no evidence

but that exactly describes Randy now

but it's worse because Randy would like to deny the defendant's rights

Randy is as bad as the Capitol mob

"No, I want Republicans to hold this Senate trial the same way they did the last one, no witnesses, no evidence. You and Republicans insisted on that last time, you can't say there's something wrong with it this time. Hypocrites!"

again, if you make no distinction between defendant and prosecutor, you are as bad as the Capitol mob

"Police officers were beaten and killed, they urinated and defecated all over the Capitol, they went around looking for Mike Pence and other Congress people to kill them. And you're trying to minimize it and defend it yet again."

you want to deny due process and usurp legal procedures

you are just like the Capitol mob

"Liar. You give no examples of this because there are none."

I have given many examples in the past

one time, we had the Randy "lie of the day" for weeks

that's why you rant and post so many times consecutively

Randy fails to make his point regularly and keeps coming back for more

"No, its you who fails to make your point, like where you blame all gays for all AIDS deaths when most HIV infections are transmitted heterosexually How many dozen's of times did you post that lie and call for a lockdown on gays when gay marriage bans raise the HIV rate? Too many to count. You are inherently dishonest and sadistic."

hey, look!

it's a Randy rant aka a lie

I have never called for a lockdown on gays

"Hemant Mehta"

Hemant get professional help

you probably think there's no cure

but look at how much good it's done for Randy

LOL!

January 11, 2021 10:59 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

At January 09, 2021 7:14 AM Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "impeaching Trump is the right thing to do, if nothing else, for the sake of historical precedent no future President should think he could get away with something like this without consequences" and "everyone wants him removed after his crimes on Wednesday"

Clearly they no longer think that way and with McConnell saying he won't take up a trial until the same day it needs to be completed its obvious he and Republicans don't want Trump "removed after his crimes on Wednesday".

January 11, 2021 11:00 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said the humorous part is that Priya rants about how the Senate decided how to vote at the first impeachment trial before the the trial and heard no evidence but that exactly describes Priya now but it's worse because Priya would like to deny the defendant's rights Priya is as bad as the Capitol mob".

You were fully behind the Republican Senate's refusal to have witnesses and present evidence in 2020, why is that a problem now? Hypocrite.

"No, I want Republicans to hold this Senate trial the same way they did the last one, no witnesses, no evidence. You and Republicans insisted on that last time, you can't say there's something wrong with it this time. Hypocrites!"

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said ""but Priya makes wild assertions up all the time without evidence".

I said "Liar. You give no examples of this because there are none."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "I have given many examples in the past".

And yet somehow you have no examples now, lol! You're not fooling anyone.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "one time, we had the Randy "lie of the day" for weeks".

Examples? You keep making claims like this but can never show any examples. Its almost like you're inherently dishonest.

I said "No, its you who fails to make your point, like where you blame all gays for all AIDS deaths when most HIV infections are transmitted heterosexually How many dozen's of times did you post that lie and call for a lockdown on gays when gay marriage bans raise the HIV rate? Too many to count. You are inherently dishonest and sadistic."

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "hey, look! it's a Priya rant aka a lie I have never called for a lockdown on gays".

You make this too easy. In this thread you posted " how many will have to die before h*sexuality is shutdown to wait for a vaccine" and "35 million people have needlessly died from AIDS, it's time to shut down h*sexuality until a vaccine is found"

You repeated this dozens of times in multiple threads. As we see yet again, when Wyatt and Regina allege I've lied its a confession that they've lied repeatedly. What kind of psycho keeps telling lies like this that are so easily proven? Evil sadists, Wyatt and Regina, both of them. They think its morally acceptable to lie if you do it for Jesus. And anything that unfairly benefits them and hurts others is for Jesus.

January 11, 2021 11:22 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Randy, I've explained to you repeatedly that I don't want to shut down homosexual activity by government imposition. I was simply showing you the contrast between your position on COVID and your position on AIDS. You can't comprehend that because, frankly, you have clear mental problems.

Another bit of hypocrisy is your outrage about the Capitol mob when you adored the mobs of last summer that burned down a police station in Seattle, set up an anarchist zone there, destroyed statues and other Federal property around the country, and killed 30 people. When the Republicans passed a resolution condemning the violence and calling for peaceful protest, the Dems blocked it in Congress.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/10/flashback-just-months-ago-democrats-blocked-a-resolution-condemning-mob-violence/

Now, you continue to advocate for lawlessness and are going on a Randy rant demanding Trump be removed without a fair trial. Trump's impeachment will be tried with Dem control of the Senate and his conviction will be more likely then. The consequences will be significant. He can never run again, and will lose post-presidential perks such as pension, travel allowance, office expenses, and presidential library.

Just like the Capitol mob, you advocate breaking the law to get to a political end. And you condemn anyone who has a different opinion than you as a traitor.

You're just like them!

One difference: You'll never set foot in this country, much less get near the Capitol. As twisted as they are, they at least have a stake in what they are fighting for. They are citizens of the United States. You, on the other hand are a malicious foreign troll that doesn't wish America well.

January 12, 2021 6:48 AM  
Anonymous Rumpette fun said...

Feds investigating case of Florida manatee found with 'Trump' carved on its back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QLA4pcUxc

January 12, 2021 8:22 AM  
Anonymous Barbara Janik said...

We knitted "pussy hats". They built gallows.

January 12, 2021 7:08 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"We knitted "pussy hats". They built gallows."

could you define "we" and "they"?

January 12, 2021 10:26 PM  
Anonymous GOPers are deplorable racists, as are their supporters who ransacked the capitol said...

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday that the pro-Trump mob that stormed the Capitol Wednesday destroyed a display outside his office honoring the late congressman and civil rights leader John Lewis.

"While rioters shamefully destroyed this tribute to my brother John Lewis yesterday, let his words continue to echo in the halls of Congress and in our hearts," Hoyer tweeted. "Let us always stand up, speak up, and speak out against injustice and for our democracy."

The display pictured by Hoyer features a quote from the Georgia Democrat, "When you see something that is not right, not fair, not just; you have to stand up, speak up, speak out, and find a way to get in the way and get in trouble. Good trouble. Necessary trouble."

The late Lewis frequently used "good trouble" as a term for civil disobedience and activism for social change.

Lewis, who died in July, was frequently invoked earlier this week after Democratic Sens.-elect Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff won a pair of runoff elections in his home state, cementing a 50-50 split in the Senate. Warnock is the first Black senator ever elected from Georgia.

The breach of the Capitol Wednesday cut short a joint session of Congress to certify President-elect Joe Biden's Electoral College victory and forced a lockdown of the facility. Participants in the pro-Trump riot also vandalized Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) office and left trash around the door of Hoyer's.

January 13, 2021 9:06 AM  
Anonymous They will be held accountable, every last one of them said...

Rep. Mikie Sherrill (D-N.J.) a former Navy helicopter pilot, described seeing “members of Congress who had groups coming through the Capitol that I saw on Jan. 5 for reconnaissance for the next day.”

“I’m going see that they’re held accountable,” Sherrill added.

Sherrill did not specifically identify which lawmakers she saw leading groups through the Capitol. Her office did not immediately respond to a message from The Washington Post late Tuesday. The FBI and the U.S. Capitol Police also did not immediately respond to messages about whether the agencies are investigating the claim.

Sherrill aired her claims the same night that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said she feared that GOP colleagues sympathetic to the rioters might give her up to the mob. Critics have also taken aim at one freshman GOP lawmaker who tweeted out the location of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) during the chaos.

Several Capitol Police officers have also been suspended and more than a dozen others are being investigated for suspected ties to rioters or for showing inappropriate support for last week’s attempted insurrection.

Sherrill, a second-term lawmaker who represents northern New Jersey, spent nearly 10 years on active duty as a helicopter pilot flying missions across Europe and the Middle East.

On Tuesday, she took to Facebook Live to give her account of the Capitol attack, which left one police officer dead and more than 50 injured. One rioter was fatally shot by U.S. Capitol Police, and three Trump supporters died of medical emergencies.

That afternoon, Sherrill recounted, she learned from messages on her phone that Vice President Pence had been escorted to safety. Shortly after that, she said, Pelosi was rushed to a secure location.

Sherrill accused President Trump of inciting the attack to “ensure that we could not have a peaceful transfer of power.” She also blamed GOP lawmakers who “abetted” Trump, and “those members of Congress who incited the violent crowd, those members of Congress that attempted to help our president undermine our democracy.”

Sherrill, who voted in favor of a resolution Tuesday urging Pence to remove Trump through the 25th Amendment, vowed to hold accountable Republicans who backed the president’s false election fraud claims.

“We can’t have a democracy if members of Congress are actively helping the president overturn the election results,” she said.

January 13, 2021 9:14 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle warned his party against impeaching President Donald Trump for inciting the mob attack on the Capitol, arguing that even a delayed Senate trial risks impeding urgent action President-elect Joe Biden must take to bolster the economy and combat the Covid-19 pandemic.

Daschle, who led Senate Democrats the last time the chamber was evenly divided, was joined by Trent Lott, who led Senate Republicans at the time, in urging Congress instead to formally censure the president. The two men were also their parties’ Senate leaders during President Bill Clinton’s 1999 impeachment trial.

Daschle called impeachment at a moment that party control of the Senate is so tenuous a “mistake,” saying it would first “galvanize” Trump’s supporters and then delay work on crucial issues. Incoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has favored proceeding, even with the coming 50-50 split in the chamber.

“An impeachment mechanism is just not the right course at all if they want to hold the president accountable,” Daschle said at a forum Monday with Lott held by the Bipartsian Policy Center.

Dasche said a censure vote is “the most appropriate approach,” adding that “it’s definitive, it’s final, it doesn’t send the whole matter to the Senate and require another trial.”

January 13, 2021 3:47 PM  
Anonymous House said...

The Resolution to Impeach has passed.

January 13, 2021 4:26 PM  
Anonymous Digby said...

A Historic Loser

The first line of Trump’s obituary has been written: “Donald Trump, the onlypresident in history to be impeached twice, died today…”

Ten Republicans voted with the Democrats to impeach him making it the most bipartisan impeachment vote in history, including Liz Cheney, a member of the House leadership. Now it goes to the Senate and while Mitch McConnell won’t take up the trial before the leadership changes on January 20th, he has said he hasn’t made up his mind about whether to convict.

The Republicans who want to purge Trump, and I’m sure quite a few of them do, are happy to pass the ball to the Democrats and let them do their dirty work. As usual.

And after Trump there is a whole lot of clean up to be done.

January 13, 2021 5:15 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Dems, as part of their never-ending Trump Derangement Syndrome, think the distinction of being impeached twice is some kind of ultimate disgrace

but the truth is that you can only be impeached twice if you were found innocent once

the first impeachment was a kangaroo court and Trump's popularity rose during it

that disgrace belongs to the Dems

this impeachment is on very solid grounds and the real disgrace is that he may be the first President convicted in an impeachment

he should be

as for this pathetic comment:

"The Republicans who want to purge Trump, and I’m sure quite a few of them do, are happy to pass the ball to the Democrats and let them do their dirty work. As usual."

there is no way to have a fair trial in the time left in this Congress so it's voters who have passed the ball, not Repubs

if you want Trump convicted without due process, you're like the Capitol mob

they don't care about adhering to the law either

January 13, 2021 5:29 PM  
Anonymous Brace yourselves said...

Hey, GOPers pushed through Barrett in no time flat, Sept. 6 - Oct. 31 and it was done.

On January 6, the videotapes of those maga-hatted rump-flag wavers in the Capitol smashing windows, ransacking offices, and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" are all the evidence we need.

We all saw what they were doing and who they were doing it for.

It was an attempted coup.

It looks like more is expected:

About 20,000 National Guardsmen could arrive in Washington, officials say, in swelling inauguration security effort

January 13, 2021 8:10 PM  
Anonymous Bipartisan impeachment said...

10 Republicans support the unprecedented indictment

January 13, 2021 8:51 PM  
Anonymous the king 0f 2021 said...

"Hey, GOPers pushed through Barrett in no time flat, Sept. 6 - Oct. 31 and it was done."

that was not a criminal trial

in our system of justice, the accused has a presumption of innocence and the right to answer his accusers

the rioters believed they could circumvent the law to achieve their political goals

don't be like them

"On January 6, the videotapes of those maga-hatted rump-flag wavers in the Capitol smashing windows, ransacking offices, and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" are all the evidence we need.

We all saw what they were doing and who they were doing it for.

It was an attempted coup."

those people have been arrested and are being arrested and tried

more difficult will be proving the President intended this to happen

don't get me wrong, I think, based on what is now known, he should be convicted

but there needs to be a fair trial

and he needs to be given an opportunity to defend himself

otherwise, the rioters have won and we've become just like them

January 14, 2021 9:19 AM  
Anonymous How soon they forget said...

You are them.

You voted for Rump.

January 14, 2021 1:47 PM  
Anonymous Our racist leader's choices laid bare -- attack the blacks and coddle the whit said...

On Jan. 6, several hundred supporters of President Trump charged inside the Capitol to overturn an election the president had repeatedly and falsely claimed was stolen. They were mostly White, and they roamed freely through the halls, taking selfies and stealing souvenirs, smashing doors and defacing statues, amid sporadic calls to “Hang Mike Pence!” Many shoved and beat officers, one of whom later died.

On June 1, 2020, a crowd of similar size gathered outside the White House to protest after the police killing of George Floyd. They were a diverse group who called for an end to police brutality and racial inequity, and an army of federal agents, assembled after Trump demanded a show of domination, sent them running with chemical agents and rubber bullets.

These two demonstrations, at the most prominent symbols of democracy in the nation’s capital, will define Trump’s legacy, highlighting the divisions he has stoked and the disparate treatment of Black and White people in America by law enforcement.

The forceful clearing of Lafayette Square on June 1 last year was one of the most controversial confrontations during nationwide protests after Floyd’s death.

The three days that preceded it were largely peaceful by day and pocked by violence and destruction at night, with law enforcement chasing rioters through the capital’s streets. Trump grew more insistent that if local leaders couldn’t reclaim the city, he would. His administration ordered up an outsize and militarized response, with law enforcement swelling from a host of federal agencies, some with no identifying insignia, and National Guard from the District and 12 states.

In the early evening, shield-bearing riot officers and mounted Park Police brutally routed those gathered, apparently without provocation or audible warning as required by law. Shortly after, Trump strode through the cleared park with military leaders at his side to pose at a church whose leaders didn’t want him there.

At the massive Stop the Steal rally on Jan. 6, only one agency was initially on hand to protect senators and representatives and their staff: the Capitol Police. Their chief had requested reinforcements days before, he said, only to be rebuffed by Senate and House security officials.

The few hundred Capitol Police stationed outside the complex were joined by hundreds of hastily summoned D.C. police, but the officers were quickly overpowered when several hundred rioters pushed through low crowd-control stands and surged up the stone stairs.

It took hours for all the 1,100 D.C. National Guard troops to arrive.

Even though Trump supporters openly plotted an assault online, and police and FBI intelligence privately warned of attempted insurrection, and the president escalated his lies about election results, the law enforcement partners of summer failed to make a coordinated plan for Jan. 6.

January 14, 2021 1:56 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"You are them.

You voted for Rump."

no, I am not them

I don't believe in achieving political ends by lawless means

that's what's distinctive about them, not that they voted for Trump

there are some TTFers who want to convict Trump without a fair trial

that's lawless

the policies Trump espouse remain preferable to those espoused by the Dems

but they have to be pursued lawfully

right now, there are Dems that think we should impeach any member of Congress that says there was election fraud

when it becomes illegal to say there is election fraud, we really are in trouble

those Dems want to criminalize free speech

that's lawless

of course, inciting people to riot because you think there is election fraud is impeachable

but not merely voting for Trump

"On Jan. 6, several hundred supporters of President Trump charged inside the Capitol to overturn an election the president had repeatedly and falsely claimed was stolen. They were mostly White, and they roamed freely through the halls, taking selfies and stealing souvenirs, smashing doors and defacing statues, amid sporadic calls to “Hang Mike Pence!” Many shoved and beat officers, one of whom later died.

On June 1, 2020, a crowd of similar size gathered outside the White House to protest after the police killing of George Floyd. They were a diverse group who called for an end to police brutality and racial inequity, and an army of federal agents, assembled after Trump demanded a show of domination, sent them running with chemical agents and rubber bullets.

These two demonstrations, at the most prominent symbols of democracy in the nation’s capital, will define Trump’s legacy, highlighting the divisions he has stoked and the disparate treatment of Black and White people in America by law enforcement.

The forceful clearing of Lafayette Square on June 1 last year was one of the most controversial confrontations during nationwide protests after Floyd’s death."

The three days that preceded it were largely peaceful by day and pocked by violence and destruction at night, with law enforcement chasing rioters through the capital’s streets."

so, it took three days to clear Lafayette Square, and only three hours to clear the Capitol

sounds like the police preferences went to BLM

we all remember those three days

looters smashed windows a block from the White House and police just stood watching

on June 1, I went to Layayette Square and walked around

few of the protesters were black

they were mostly white college kids giddy for an excuse to escape lockdown

and most of the cops were black

liberals need to stop making everything a race issue

January 14, 2021 3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We knitted "pussy hats". They built gallows."

"could you define "we" and "they"?"

We = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March#Pussyhat_Project

"...The name refers to the resemblance of the top corners of the hats to cat ears and attempts to reclaim the derogatory term "pussy", a play on Trump's widely reported 2005 remarks that women would let him "grab them by the pussy"..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March

"...a worldwide protest on January 21, 2017, the day after the inauguration of President Donald Trump. Tensions rose due to his statements, considered by many as anti-women or otherwise offensive....The crowds were peaceful: no arrests were made in D.C., Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, or Seattle, where a combined total of about two million people marched...."

They = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol

"...After marching to the Capitol and overwhelming police barricades, many protesters became violent. They assaulted Capitol Police officers and reporters; erected a gallows on the Capitol grounds; and attempted to locate lawmakers to take hostage and harm. They chanted "Hang Mike Pence", apparently due to his resistance to unconstitutionally rejecting the electoral vote count...By the end of the day, police had arrested 61 people for "unrest-related" offenses, with about half of these arrests occurring on the Capitol grounds..."

January 14, 2021 4:53 PM  
Anonymous Christians to start whining about "cancel culture" and "freedom of speech" in 3... 2... 1 said...

PayPal is cutting ties with Christian crowdfunding site GiveSendGo following the January 6 US Capitol siege.

The site, which the far-right extremist Proud Boys group has used for fundraising, calls itself the "#1 free Christian fundraising site," and it was used to raise funds for pro-Trump rioters who attended last week's violent siege.

"The account in question was closed due to a violation of our Acceptable Use Policy," a PayPal spokesperson told CNN Business. "PayPal carefully reviews accounts to ensure our services are used in line with our long-standing policy, taking action when we deem that individuals or organizations have violated this policy."

PayPal doesn't allow its services to be used to "promote hate, violence or other forms of intolerance," the spokesperson said.

The company took a similar stance in 2017 in response to the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia. "If we become aware of a website or organization using our services that may violate our policies, our highly trained team of experts addresses each case individually and carefully evaluates the website itself, any associated organizations, and their adherence to our policy," PayPal said in a blog post after the attack.

Crowdfunding site GoFundMe took similar action following the Capitol Hill riot. The company said it would no longer allow users to fundraise for travel expenses to engage in potentially violent political events after pro-Trump protesters used the platform ahead of storming the US Capitol.

Many companies are halting political donations following last week's unrest. Airbnb, Amazon and American Express are among a long list of companies that are suspending donations to all of the legislators who were involved in contesting certification of the electoral results. And some companies, including Bank of America, Facebook and Google, are cutting off all political donations, regardless of party.

January 14, 2021 6:23 PM  
Anonymous Minority Report - from the Pre-Crime Division of the Republican Party said...

As President Donald Trump was impeached Wednesday for a second time, a U.S. Representative from Georgia is looking to impeach his successor.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene says she wants impeach President-elect Joe Biden.

The Republican congresswoman said that she'll move forward with the matter one day after Inauguration Day and on Biden's first full day in office.

She wrote in a tweet, "On January 21st, I'm filing Articles of Impeachment on President-elect @JoeBiden."

Greene added, "I'm proud to be the voice of Republican voters who have been ignored."

The congresswoman wrote she will be filing articles of impeachment for alleged abuse of power.

Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸
@mtgreenee
Jan 13
On January 21st, I’m filing Articles of Impeachment on President-elect
@JoeBiden

75 million Americans are fed up with inaction.

It’s time to take a stand.

I’m proud to be the voice of Republican voters who have been ignored.

#ImpeachBiden
#QuidProJoe
#BidenCrimeFamily

Greene made the announcement on the far-right, conservative cable news channel Newsmax.

Greene spoke Wednesday during heated exchanges over Trump's impending impeachment in the House. She slammed Democrats for their second impeachment.

"Democrats' impeachment of President Trump today has now set the standard that they should be removed for their support of violence against the American people," she said.

Greene won her house seat in November and represents Georgia's 14th Congressional District, which includes almost all of the northwestern part of the state.

But she has also been known for espousing bigoted and conspiratorial views, including those promoted by fringe conspiracy group QAnon.

The QAnon conspiracy theory is centered on the baseless belief that Trump is waging a secret campaign against enemies in the "deep state" and a child sex trafficking ring run by satanic pedophiles and cannibals.

In a series of videos unearthed just after Greene placed first in the initial June 9 Republican primary, she complains of an "Islamic invasion" into government offices, claims Black and Hispanic men are held back by "gangs and dealing drugs," and pushes an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that billionaire philanthropist George Soros, who is Jewish, collaborated with the Nazis.

The president came in support of Greene prior to her securing her seat in Congress.

January 14, 2021 9:12 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/13/a-short-history-of-how-anthony-fauci-has-kept-failing-up-since-1984/

history of failures by Anthony Fauci, the 80-year-old who isn't a virologist and should have retired long ago

note: his political maneuvering cost many lives during the early days of the AIDS pandemic

January 15, 2021 5:03 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

Pelosi is in no rush. She waited a week before bringing up impeachment in the House and has now still not transmitted the articles to the Senate.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The timing of President Donald Trump's impeachment trial could come into clearer focus on Friday when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is expected to take questions about her next steps at a morning news conference at the U.S. Capitol.

The Democratic-led House of Representatives voted 232-197 on Wednesday to impeach Trump on a charge of incitement one week after his supporters rampaged in the Capitol following a speech in which the outgoing Republican president urged them to fight Democrat Joe Biden's Nov. 3 election victory.

Trump, now the first president in U.S. history to be impeached twice, falsely claims he lost due to widespread voting fraud. He will likely be the first president to face an impeachment trial after leaving office.

Ten Republicans joined Democrats in supporting impeachment, while others argued Trump's remarks were protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which defends free speech.

His trial in the Senate cannot begin until the charge has been formally transmitted to that chamber. So far, Pelosi, a Democrat, has stayed mum on when she will do so.

Representative Diana DeGette, one of nine Democratic impeachment managers who will argue the House's case against Trump, said on Thursday that Pelosi was working with Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on when to transmit the article of impeachment to the Senate and trigger the start of the trial.

According to Senate rules, the trial would start the day after the charge is sent over by the House. The last time the House voted to impeach Trump, in December 2019, Pelosi did not transmit the charges to the Senate for weeks.

The earlier charges related to abuse of power and obstruction of Congress stemming from Trump's request that Ukraine investigate Biden and his son Hunter. The Senate in February 2020 voted to acquit Trump, keeping him in office.

The Senate is scheduled to return to Washington on Tuesday, the day before Biden's inauguration.

Some House Democrats say they favor Pelosi waiting to send the newest charge to the Senate, even as long as 100 days. But others want quick action to get the trial started.

Biden has urged lawmakers not to allow Trump's impeachment trial to interfere with other priorities in his early days in office, such as approval of his Cabinet and proposed legislation. On Thursday, the president-elect unveiled a $1.9 trillion stimulus proposal designed to jump-start the economy and speed up the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic

January 15, 2021 6:25 AM  
Anonymous President Trump bears responsibility for the attack and should be removed from office and disqualified from serving again said...

Even as the findings are sharply partisan, over half of Americans — and 1 in 8 Republicans — say Trump should be criminally charged for his role in the attacks.

The president also comes in for broad criticism over his repeated and baseless assertions that the November election was rigged and tainted by widespread fraud. By a margin of more than 2 to 1, Americans say the president has acted irresponsibly in his statements and actions since the election.

Nonetheless, the president continues to enjoy strong support from Republicans, among whom a clear majority agree with his false claims about what happened in November, oppose his removal from office and believe Republican elected officials should continue to follow his lead in the future.

GOPer eat rump's lies up and GOPer evangelicals put their faith in him.

January 15, 2021 7:21 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"Even as the findings are sharply partisan, over half of Americans — and 1 in 8 Republicans — say Trump should be criminally charged for his role in the attacks."

I agree he should be charged. But you do have to realize the difficulty you will have in proving he intended to incite a riot. The whole idea of charging people with that crime was greatly watered down when the Nixon administration used it against people like Tom Hayden and Angela Davis in the early 70s to fight protests. There is a thin line where such a charge can violate the right to free speech. Sadly, the right to free speech is increasingly becoming considered a technicality by the left. Sad- and scary. But the Supreme Court will continue to support the Bill of Rights.

"The president also comes in for broad criticism over his repeated and baseless assertions that the November election was rigged and tainted by widespread fraud. By a margin of more than 2 to 1, Americans say the president has acted irresponsibly in his statements and actions since the election."

yes, he has

but that's not indictable

election fraud is not an excuse for armed insurrection when there are legal ways to seek redress

"Nonetheless, the president continues to enjoy strong support from Republicans, among whom a clear majority agree with his false claims about what happened in November, oppose his removal from office and believe Republican elected officials should continue to follow his lead in the future."

do they agree there as enough election fraud to reverse the election fraud? I doubt it. the problem with these polls is that they are conducted by biased parties and can made misleading by the way the question is framed

"GOPer eat rump's lies up and GOPer evangelicals put their faith in him."

no evangelicals "put their faith in him"

he kept his campaign promises so they appreciated it

but last Wednesday crossed a line

January 15, 2021 11:09 AM  
Anonymous Republicans aren't the solution. Republicans are the problem. said...

"do they agree there as enough election fraud to reverse the election fraud? I doubt it."

Wake up.

147 Republican members of Congress voted to overturn the election results just hours after the attack on the Capitol.

Trump encouraged the crowd to march to the Capitol and overturn the election results.

Trump encouraged legislators to overturn the election results.

Trump called election officials in Georgia (and probably other states) to overturn the election results.

Trump hired Oozy Rudy to go in front of 60 courts to try and overturn the election results.

Trump's guy at the head of the post office slowed down mail delivery to try and weigh the election results in his favor.

Republican legislators in some states reduced the number of polling locations in Democratic cities to weigh the results in his favor.

Trump claimed "the only way he could lose this election is if it is rigged" over a year ago.

Trump knows how to play the media and he planted the seeds for his fraud claim months in advance and kept feeding it to his base. Republicans from the ones who voted for him, to those who stormed the Capitol, and those legislators who voted to overturn the will of the voters believe there was enough fraud to overturn the election.

Frankly, his efforts to disrupt the election and make it come out in his favor show (by far) the most organization and planning of ANY action to come from his administration.

Fortunately for America, Trump fails at many of the tasks he tries to accomplish.

January 15, 2021 1:13 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"147 Republican members of Congress voted to overturn the election results just hours after the attack on the Capitol."

I think we were discussing Republicans, not Republican Congressmen. The problem with politicians is they want to make everyone happy so, if they can do it without cost, they will cater to the nutso crowd since it really didn't matter how they voted. Biden would win anyway.

January 15, 2021 1:50 PM  
Anonymous Republicans aren't the solution. Republicans are the problem. said...

Who do you think put those Republican Congressmen into office?

Many of the same Republicans who voted Trump into office.

If I recall correctly, there were 16 other Republican candidates for Republicans to choose from that year - most of them less deplorable, and all of them more competent.

Over the past 20 years Republicans have gone farther over the deep end, and now the conspiracy theorist wing is driving the Republican narrative rather than tagging along for the ride.


January 15, 2021 3:12 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"Who do you think put those Republican Congressmen into office?

Many of the same Republicans who voted Trump into office."

you keep shifting what you are arguing

all I'm saying is that I don't think most Republicans in America think enough fraud took place, or at least there is not enough proof of it, to change the outcome of the election

that being said, voting by mail risks fraud and shouldn't be used in the future except for individuals with a a valid reason

"If I recall correctly, there were 16 other Republican candidates for Republicans to choose from that year - most of them less deplorable, and all of them more competent."

yes, well, the media would only focus on Trump

"Over the past 20 years Republicans have gone farther over the deep end, and now the conspiracy theorist wing is driving the Republican narrative rather than tagging along for the ride."

there are as many extremists among Dems

the Republican agenda will make for a better society

as big as the crowd was on Wednesday, they are still a fringe

January 15, 2021 3:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"as big as the crowd was on Wednesday, they are still a fringe"

So is ISIS.

January 15, 2021 4:22 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

thanks for the continuing non sequiturs

always an amusing way to division and misunderstanding

January 15, 2021 4:27 PM  
Anonymous Rumper Jenna Ryan said...

A Texas real estate agent who took a private jet to the Capitol last week and called it “one best days of my life” was charged Friday for participating in the violent insurrection.

Jenna Ryan, a Frisco, Texas real estate broker and life coach, has been charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building without lawful authorities and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds after documenting her two-day excursion to D.C. on social media.

Ryan went on a PR offensive after the riot, telling Spectrum News that she “answered the call of my president” and proudly stormed the Capitol because the election was rigged. “It’s not necessarily about taking over the Capitol, it’s about ‘we the people own this building,’” she said.

According to a criminal complaintfiled in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, Ryan diligently documented her participation in the mob—starting from her flight on a “small private aircraft” on Jan. 5.

The next day, she posted a bathroom mirror selfie on Facebook with the caption: “We’re gonna go down and storm the capitol. They’re down there right now and that’s why we came and so that’s what we are going to do. So wish me luck.” She added: “This is a prelude going to war.”

In one now-deleted video, she filmed herself in a crowd going into the Capitol through the Rotunda entrance. She walked past broken windows, up some stairs, and said, “We are going to fucking go in here. Life or death, it doesn’t matter. Here we go.”

Then, she turned to the camera and added, “Y’all know who to hire for your realtor. Jenna Ryan for your realtor.”

By the time Ryan made it to the door of a building “clearly desecrated, with broken glass windows shattered, and security alarms sounding,” she yelled “U-S-A! U-S-A!” and “Here we are, in the name of Jesus!

She also took photos of herself in front of a broken window with the caption, “Window at The capital [sic]. And if the news doesn’t stop lying about us we’re going to come after their studios next…’”

January 15, 2021 6:30 PM  
Anonymous Carol Kuruvilla said...

The pulpit of Robert Jones’ childhood church, a Southern Baptist congregation in Mississippi, was flanked by two flags ― an American flag and what’s called the “Christian flag,” with a blue canton and a red cross on a white field. During Vacation Bible School, a summer kids’ program, Jones remembers that he and other children were taught to recite three pledges of allegiance ― to the American flag, the Christian flag and the Bible.

Last week, an insurrectionist carried this Christian flag onto the Senate floor as rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol to interrupt a joint session of Congress and attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. As Jones watched the siege unfold on social media, he was disturbed to see this flag among the symbols the rioters were using ― but he wasn’t surprised.

There’s a potent mix of nationalism, Christianity and white supremacy at work in the U.S., and it’s not new. Jones, the CEO of the Public Religion Research Institute, says it has been part of Christianity in America from the very start.

Jones and other U.S. Christians are now piecing together what it means that their faith was so brazenly invoked during a deadly insurrection ― and what responsibility Christians have to address white supremacy and nationalism in their ranks.

“We are indeed at a moment of reckoning for white Christianity, which has been complicit in legitimizing and baptizing white supremacy throughout the entire American story,” Jones told HuffPost. “We white Christians need to speak out, not just for the sake of repairing the damage we have done to our Black and brown brothers and sisters, but for the sake of ourselves and our faith.”

Christian nationalism is a movement that seeks to affirm and codify America’s identity as an explicitly Christian country, by leveraging the religion’s influence in the public sphere. Many Christian nationalists believe the federal government should advocate for Christian values, allow prayer in public schools, and allow religious symbols to be displayed in public spaces, according to Andrew Whitehead, a sociologist at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis, and others working with him.

White conservatives don’t have a monopoly on Christianity, an incredibly diverse faith practiced worldwide. But in America, Christian nationalism has long been wrapped up in protecting whiteness. Many white evangelicals have grown anxious in recent years about America’s increasing racial diversity, and believe they are losing ground on culture-war issues.

January 15, 2021 10:17 PM  
Anonymous Carol Kuruvilla said...

Symbols of white Christian nationalism were present before and during the Jan. 6 insurrection. People carried crosses and Christian-themed flags. One sign declared “Jesus Saves.” An American flag bore the words “Jesus is my savior, Trump is my President.” Religious rituals and imagery were incorporated into events leading up to the riot, including communal prayers and “Jericho marches.”

The presence of these symbols highlights how Christian imagery has been co-opted by Christian nationalists, according to Whitehead.

“These powerful symbols serve to legitimate their goals and desires in the transcendent and by doing that, they can claim that the Christian God is on their side.”

Throughout American history, white supremacists have tried to use the Bible to justify their agenda of cruelty and oppression, Jemar Tisby, the president of the Witness, a Black Christian collective, told HuffPost. The insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol last week are also trying to “twist Scripture to fit their destructive ideology,” he said.

“White Christians have been such a big part of the problem of creating white supremacy and Christian Nationalism that they must also be part of the solution,” Tisby said.

Some Christian leaders have condemned the way their faith was misused on Jan. 6. Russell Moore, a prominent voice within the Southern Baptist Convention, America’s largest Protestant denomination, said he was “trembling with rage” as he watched rioters display Christian symbols at the Capitol. He insisted that “violent insurrection and the Gospel of Jesus Christ cannot coexist.”

Over 250 faculty and staff at Illinois’ evangelical Wheaton College have signed a statement condemning the “blasphemous abuses of Christian symbols” at the Capitol riot. They acknowledged that many Christian leaders “wittingly propagated lies, or were unduly silent” instead of speaking truth to President Donald Trump’s supporters, many of whom still believe his repeated false claims that he rightfully won the 2020 election.

“We repent of our own failures to speak and to act in accordance with justice, and we lament the failures of the Church to teach clearly and to exercise adequate church discipline in these areas,” the statement from Wheaton reads. “Moreover, we grieve over the inadequate level of discipleship that has made room for this type of behavior among those who self-identify as Christian.”

But this attitude of repentance has yet to manifest among the evangelical leaders who’ve been closest to Trump over the past four years. These leaders ― people like the evangelist Franklin Graham and Texas pastor Robert Jeffress ― have condemned the insurrection and called for healing. But many have not held Trump accountable for inciting it, or acknowledged the role of white Christian nationalists in the violence, or apologized for failing to decisively recognize President-elect Joe Biden’s victory sooner.

January 15, 2021 10:20 PM  
Anonymous Carol Kuruvilla said...

In the weeks leading up to Congress’ certification of Biden’s win, the president’s close evangelical allies were either actively promoting Trump’s debunked claims of election fraud or tacitly giving credence to that narrative with their silence. In some American evangelical circles, self-declared prophets with substantial social media followings held on to their prophecies that Trump would win, even long after the president’s election fraud lawsuits began to fail in the courts.

Election fraud narratives within evangelical circles are partly driven by a toxic view of masculinity, according to Kristin Kobes Du Mez, a history professor at Calvin University and the author of a book on the subject. By insisting that God made men to be warriors, conservative evangelicals have fueled a culture-war mentality that erodes trust and promotes an “us versus them” militancy, Du Mez said.

“Whether that fight is against communists, feminists, secular humanists, liberals, Democrats or radical Islam, the fate of the faith and the nation are always perceived to be hanging in the balance, and so the ends will always justify the means,” she said.

White conservative Christians’ willingness to entertain conspiracy theories could be a product of their close ties to the Republican Party and their loyalty to Trump, according to Elizabeth Neumann, who served as an assistant secretary of counterterrorism at the Department of Homeland Security under Trump until last April.

Neumann warned last year that the Trump administration wasn’t doing enough to counter violent extremism coming from the political right, even though right-wing domestic terrorism is more of a threat than left-wing violence.

Trump’s hard-line stances have made conservative Republicans “extremely vulnerable” to the grooming techniques of right-wing extremist groups, Neumann said. The outgoing president has sown “seeds of grievances” around white supremacist talking points, such as the idea that immigrants are stealing American jobs, or that the best way to handle terrorism is to keep Muslims out of the country. This has helped create a “common values system” between average Republicans and white supremacists, Neumann said.

Some of the rioters at last week’s insurrection were members of established far-right hate groups, like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, or vocal supporters of apocalyptic conspiracy theories such as QAnon. Neumann believes there were other people at the protest who didn’t have official ties to these groups, but who shared their conservative values and were led to believe misinformation about the election.

January 15, 2021 10:23 PM  
Anonymous Carol Kuruvilla said...

White supremacists know they need to attract a sizable percentage of white Americans in order to achieve their goal of a white nation, Neumann said. So they use sophisticated recruitment tactics to groom and recruit vulnerable groups ― primarily white adolescents ― online.

“It seems like you’re good friends because you have such a common worldview,” she said. “You would never know that that person is actually a neo-Nazi, or is actually a Boogaloo boy intent on overthrowing the U.S. government.”

This is how white conservative Christians can unwittingly be pulled into extremist circles, she suggested.

“The concern I have is not that by being a Christian, you would naturally think that white supremacy is a godly thing or that it’s part of the Bible, as much as it is some of the other political viewpoints that you have gotten into by being a Trump adherent,” she said. “You’ve created this toxic soup of conspiracy that makes people very vulnerable and susceptible to recruitment to other radicalized causes.”

Moore, the Southern Baptist leader, has been speaking up about the proliferation of conspiracy theories in evangelical circles. In a webinar for church leaders on Friday, he used biblical language to condemn conspiracy theories about QAnon, the COVID-19 pandemic and the political leanings of the insurrectionists.

Conspiracy theories use apocalyptic rhetoric to create a sense of desperation, Moore said, and people who don’t feel as if their lives have a purpose become addicted to the rush that these theories offer. Christians have a responsibility to speak truth about these conspiracy theories, he said ― and to separate the violent actions of the rioters from the message of Jesus.

Moore said he’s heard people claim that the problem with Christianity is that it’s become a “weak, ‘turn the other cheek’ sort of religion.” He pointed out that these kinds of statements explicitly contradict Jesus’ instructions in his famous teaching, the Sermon on the Mount.

“If the Sermon on the Mount is the problem with American Christianity in your view, then [you’re suggesting] Jesus Christ is the problem with American Christianity, which means what you’re holding on to is something else,” he said.

“There are people who don’t yet know who Christ is, who all they know about Jesus is seeing ‘Jesus saves’ in the hands of violent insurrectionists who are disobeying the clear commands of Scripture and the explicit words out of the mouth of Jesus himself,” he added. “That is blasphemy.”

January 15, 2021 10:26 PM  
Anonymous Carol Kuruvilla said...

Moore said Christians should reach out if they see loved ones being drawn into justifying violence ― and if pastors notice that members of their congregations have become vulnerable to that kind of ideology, they should call it out as un-biblical.

Neumann, who is a Christian herself, said church leaders can connect people who have fallen into the “QAnon rabbit hole” with resources to help them de-radicalize. Beyond that, she said, pastors should be willing to say there was no evidence of massive voter fraud in the 2020 election, and to remind their congregations to place their hopes in Christ, instead of on a specific political outcome.

This moment calls for repentance and accountability from white American Christian communities ― including among the prominent evangelical leaders who have “idolized” Trump over the past four years, Neumann said.

“It’s important to acknowledge what a challenging moment we have as a nation, but also the fact that there was an element of the Christian community that participated in what got us to this point,” she said. “We need to pause and take a moment and reflect, and if we have sinned, repent of it.”

She said her biggest fear is that people will rush to declare that this “sickness” within American Christianity has been cured.

“We’ve got to start acknowledging there’s a problem before we can get to starting to heal from it,” she said. “It took decades to get us to this point. It’s not going to be fixed with a Band-Aid and a platitude. We have to go deeper and understand why the church was able to be deceived, why an individual was able to be deceived, why a movement of conservatives was able to be deceived.”

January 15, 2021 10:27 PM  
Anonymous NRA said...

WE ARE BANKRUPT!

January 16, 2021 7:38 AM  
Anonymous ‘Trump said to do so’: Accounts of rioters who rushed Capitol could be pivotal testimony..... said...

....in proving Trump did indeed incite insurrection.

January 17, 2021 9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anna Schecter said...

Far-right extremists are now ‘recalibrating & planning’ on an app favored by ISIS

As DC officials are tightening security ahead of Wednesday's inauguration, NBC’s Anna Schecter reports that extremists are “recalibrating and planning for January 20th” even though their preferred app to plan, Parler, was shut down. She tells Ali Velshi that these extremists have found a workaround: “Telegram was the app favored by ISIS and now it’s really the place for far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists.”

Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bUmDw-Pugk

"they are still a fringe"




January 17, 2021 10:45 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

"‘Trump said to do so’: Accounts of rioters who rushed Capitol could be pivotal testimony..... said...
....in proving Trump did indeed incite insurrection."

well, they have a motive for saying that

if the head of the Executive Branch told them to go into the Capitol, that would excuse them from trespassing, which is the most are hit with

but, they will have trouble maintaining that claim when there is significant evidence the whole thing was planned in advance

which will exonerate Trump from the charge of incitement

by definition, you can't incite somebody for doing something they were already planning to do

my issue with Trump is, he could have stopped it

and he may have interfered with getting the National Guard out in time

once again, Dems manage to turn a slam dunk into an air ball

and they will be in charge for at least two years

it'll be "The Keystone Cops go to Congress"

January 17, 2021 7:46 PM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

The top Justice Department official in early 2017 overseeing the FBI‘s Russia probe testified he was briefed as many as six times on its status and was told there was no evidence of Trump campaign collusion, a newly released transcript shows.

The testimony of Dana J. Boente is significant because during this time the FBI took major steps to expand the probe.

And President Trump in May ended up firing then-FBI Director James Comey, a stunning move that led to the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller and two years of a White House under constant criminal scrutiny.

“There was no ‘there’ there,” said Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, who released Mr. Boente‘s June 22 closed testimony. “The investigation was pushed when it should have been stopped and the only logical explanation is that the investigators wanted an outcome because of their bias.”

Mr. Boente‘s unique position in the new Trump administration was this: Newly confirmed Attorney General Jeff Sessions recuse himself from the Russia probe, codenamed “Crossfire Hurricane” by the FBI. He had spoken to the Russian ambassador while a senator from Alabama.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein would not win Senate confirmation until late April.

That left Mr. Boente as acting deputy and in charge of Crossfire Hurricane in February, March and April. He asked to be briefed.

“I felt that it was important to know something about it,” said Mr. Boente, according to a transcript. “I don’t know if and when I was told that. I think—I recall being told at some point, maybe not February, between February and April, because thankfully my involvement ended in April, that there was no evidence of collusion with the Trump campaign.”

During this time, the FBI was ramping up the probe.

January 18, 2021 6:04 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

President-elect Joe Biden just unveiled his proposal for a $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief package. Democrats insist it is targeted to respond to the crisis and only full of “commonsense” measures and much-needed emergency spending.

Yet, even a cursory glance at the specifics of the package reveals that it’s a Trojan horse for a sweeping liberal agenda that Biden could never otherwise get passed.

Yes, the proposal does include billions for vaccine distribution, testing, school reopenings, and the like. But it also includes blatant partisan priorities, such as a federal $15 minimum wage.

Biden knows that this far-left, job-killing policy would never make it out of Congress in a straight up-down vote. The Democrat’s hope here is obviously that he can sneak a doubling of the federal minimum wage into an “emergency” package that lawmakers feel obligated to support. We should all hope this duplicity is unsuccessful.

A nationwide $15 minimum wage was too radical a proposal for even 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, hardly a fiscal conservative. And right now, small businesses are already struggling under the crushing weight of the pandemic. A huge spike to their wage bills would no doubt push many past the brink.

For workers, too, basic economics teaches us that such a spike in the minimum wage would hurt more than it would help. Here's a shocker: Artificially mandating higher prices for a service than what it’s worth on the market leads to businesses purchasing less of that service. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that a federal $15 minimum wage would kill approximately 1.3 million to 3.7 million jobs.

Similarly, the president-elect’s package earmarks $350 billion for state and local government bailouts in a nakedly partisan pander to badly managed blue states. Let’s be clear: Despite Biden’s rhetoric, municipal governments are not actually in a budget crisis.

“State and local tax revenues are rising nationwide, not falling,” Cato Institute economist Chris Edwards explained in December. “Sales tax revenues dipped in the second quarter of 2020 but bounced back in the third quarter. Individual income and property taxes did not fall — they rose in both the second and third quarters.”

Edwards concluded: “Some places such as New York City are in trouble from self‐inflicted wounds, but there is no nationwide government budget crisis."

In reality, this money is not some emergency relief to make sure first responders’ checks don’t start bouncing. It’s a massive redistribution scheme to put federal taxpayers on the hook for years of mismanagement in blue states, culminating in the horrible decision to maintain crushing lockdowns despite their ineffectiveness at containing COVID-19.

What these states really need is not a federal bailout but relief from their left-wing politicians.

Similarly, Biden’s proposal contains massive expansions of the welfare state, such as increasing unemployment benefits and extending that too-generous system through September. This is no longer some short-term emergency measure (the unemployment system was originally “temporarily” expanded in March 2020) but rather a large step toward the Nordic-style welfare state that Democrats increasingly want to bring to our shores.

Republicans shouldn’t feel guilty about vocally opposing Biden’s COVID-19 relief efforts. Conservative opposition isn’t an obstruction of a commonsense emergency response but a rejection of an imposition of a liberal economic agenda on the United States through a back door.

January 18, 2021 6:09 AM  
Anonymous Vocabulary lesson for the Rump U graduate said...

"by definition, you can't incite somebody for doing something they were already planning to do"

Definition of "incite"

-encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behavior): the offense of inciting racial hatred.
-urge or persuade (someone) to act in a violent or unlawful way: he incited loyal subjects to rebellion.

Rump encouraged and stirred up the mob of his "loyal subjects" that came to say goodbye to him and he sent them to the capitol to rebel against Congress that was there to certify the vote.

January 18, 2021 8:20 AM  
Anonymous D'oh said...

"by definition, you can't incite somebody for doing something they were already planning to do"

That's right.

The self-named king is confusing "incite" with "instigate -- bring about or initiate (an action or event): they instigated a reign of terror | instigating legal proceedings."

January 18, 2021 8:33 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

well, it can be reasonably argued that his words were meant to be metaphorical and didn't encourage behavior that would not have happened without his speech

remember, this charge has a history of being used against those speak against the status quo

read up on the Justice Department activities of the first term of the Nixon administration

what Trump is probably guilty off is not providing adequate protection from a well-known plan to attack the Capitol and interference in law enforcement on January 6

but Congress didn't impeach him for that

the Dems blow it again

January 18, 2021 8:48 AM  
Anonymous You should hide that stupidity, not publish it said...

"the Dems blow it again"

LMAO

We all know who is blowing it.

Welcome to the minority, troll.

January 18, 2021 9:04 AM  
Anonymous the king of 2021 said...

actually, I've always been in the minority

I'm a libertarian who believes in the original intent of the Constitution and that government's role in our lives should be limited

there is no majority for that position, and it wasn't represented by the recent RINO Trump administration

January 18, 2021 9:56 AM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

A perfect summary of the state and threat of where the Republican party has been going.

9 minute video.

Republicans in particular need to see this.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "the Democrats blow it again"


Another example of their constantly portraying reality as the exact opposite of what it is - Democrats have control of the presidency, the House and the Senate thanks to their savior Trump, picked by god himself the evangelical christians say, convincing Georgia voters the senate races there were rigged and Trump supporters shouldn't vote. So obviously its the Republicans who've blown it again and again.

Its just non-stop bad faith argument from Wyatt and Regina Hardiman. Dishonesty is the bedrock of their posts.

January 18, 2021 1:01 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "actually, I've always been in the minority".

A white christian heterosexual(?) in the United States "a minority"? Don't be absurd. You're firmly in the majority and centre of power in the United States. Stop with the fake persecution complex alreayd.

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "I'm a libertarian who believes in the original intent of the Constitution and that government's role in our lives should be limited".

Bullsh*t. Even the founding fathers said they weren't smart enough to account for how things would change in the future so the constitution should be a living document updated as more knowledge becomes available. The founders didn't believe the constitution should always be interpreted according to their original intent.

"The warmest friends to and the best supporters of the Constitution, do not contend that it is free from imperfections; but these were not to be avoided, and they are convinced if evils are likely to flow from them, that the remedy must come thereafter; because, in the present moment it is not to be obtained. And as there is a Constitutional door open for it, I think the people (for it is with them to judge) can, as they will have the aid of experience on their side, decide with as much propriety on the alterations and amendments which shall be found necessary, as ourselves; for I do not conceive that we are more inspired--have more wisdom--or possess more virtue than those who will come after us. The power under the Constitution will always be with the people."
-- G. Washington, to Bushrod Washington, Nov. 9, 1787

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said "there is no majority for that position, and it wasn't represented by the recent RINO Trump administration".

You stinking hypocrites! You defended, enabled and minimized Trump's every attack on democracy and now when he's out the door you want to pretend he didn't represent the core of your being?! Eff you!

January 18, 2021 1:10 PM  
Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Wyatt/Regina/bad anonymous said " I've explained to you repeatedly that I don't want to shut down h*sexual activity by government imposition."

You mean you've said that occasionally, far, far more often you've demanded gayness be shutdown by the government with statements like:

"how many will have to die before h*sexuality is shutdown to wait for a vaccine" and "35 million people have needlessly died from AIDS, it's time to shut down h*sexuality until a vaccine is found"

It is not moral to constantly demand gayness be shutdown to allegedly reduce HIV just because you occasionally deny that's your position - that's still a lie. That just proves dishonesty is at the core of who you two are.

January 18, 2021 1:25 PM  
Anonymous Boreal said...

REMINDER: Republicans never asked Trump to tone donw the rhetoric, unite the country, or put healing ahead of policy. But today they DEMAND all of this from Democrats.

January 18, 2021 1:29 PM  
Anonymous Hemant Mehta said...

There’s Video of Christian Terrorists Praying to God Inside the U.S. Capitol

One of the best videos we have of what took place inside the U.S. Capitol last week comes from the New Yorker‘s Luke Mogelson, who spent much of the year reporting on the right-wing extremism and got a front-row seat to the insurrection. His story about the riot is a must-read.

Today, the magazine published video he took inside the Capitol. It’s all kinds of disturbing, but I would draw your attention to this scene of the terrorists praying inside the House chambers:

In the midst of their rioting, while trying to take over the Capitol, the “QAnon Shaman” helped the mob thank Jesus for what they were doing.

These aren’t just terrorists. They’re Christian terrorists. The prayer they recited was one that wouldn’t be out of place at evangelical churches across the country.

I know this comparison isn’t new, but if Muslims invaded the Capitol and said a prayer in the name of their God, we know exactly what Christians would say about it, and we know exactly how right-wing media would cover it.

The 80% of white evangelicals voters who supported Trump for two elections have created an environment where terrorism in the name of their faith isn’t seen as hypocritical or out of place by the most fervent believers. It’s not that all evangelicals condone the actions of the men inside the chamber. It’s that their churches haven’t done enough to dissuade believers from supporting right-wing conspiracies and blatant lies and conservative cruelty — to the point where even outright terrorism is seen as perfectly in line with how these believers view God.

When pastors play into culture war rhetoric, act like Christians are constantly persecuted, and lie to their congregations about how the sky is falling when liberals have any kind of power, they can’t pretend like this scene is shocking.

It’s not surprising at all. There’s a reason so many Christian symbols were seen during the riot.

A bunch of Christians were among the terrorists. They believe God was on their side. Unless evangelical pastors address the beliefs they hold and the rhetoric they use — because that creates a foundation for terrorism like this to thrive — it’s not going to stop.

January 18, 2021 3:06 PM  

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