Stupid Is As Stupid Does
The pussy-grabbing Christian morality of the Family Research Council, the National Rifle Association, and Ted Nugent has prevailed. The Republicans now hold the Presidency, the House, and the Senate. Okay, this is what can happen when you let the people vote. President Trump has four years to show that his approach works. That's how the Founding Fathers set it up.
You can stay or you can leave. If you stay then you have an obligation to make it better.
You can stay or you can leave. If you stay then you have an obligation to make it better.
posted by JimK at 10:16 AM
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Leaving may be difficult - the Canadian immigration website crashed during the vote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37921376
"Canada's immigration website has suffered an intermittent fault that made it inaccessible to visitors during the US election vote.
Officials have confirmed that the cause was a higher than normal level of traffic.
It has been suggested this may have been caused by US citizens exploring their options following Donald Trump's victory.
The tycoon confounded polls predicting he would lose to Hillary Clinton.
"The Government of Canada is committed to secure and reliable IT infrastructure to ensure high-quality services to all users," a spokeswoman told the BBC.
"The Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship website became temporarily inaccessible to users as a result of a significant increase in the volume of traffic.
"Shared Services Canada worked through the night and continues to work to resolve the issue to ensure that the website is available for users as soon as possible."
The problem was widely commented about on social media."
Mexico may just start building that wall - to keep all the gringos out.
Its scary how much the rise of Trump parallels that of Hitler.
This will be very bad for the U.S. and perhaps the world.
Good luck my American friends.
"The @#$Q%$@-grabbing Christian morality of the Family Research Council,"
Jim, no one in the evangelical community was unrevulsed by that tape
still, many chose to not make it their sole reason for their decision
I can assure, all things being equal, they would greatly prefer someone who is not a creep
but he has promised to appoint judges who believe in maintaining the original intent of the Founding Fathers in writing the Constitution
the effect of allowing Hillary Clinton to change our Constitution would have been lasting
she started out her campaign suggesting she would convene a Constitutional convention to overturn SCOTUS rulings liberals didn't like and later change to say she'd only appoint judges to agree ahead of time to make certain rulings
I think this was the big cause for those evangelicals who chose to vote for him
btw, you'll probably wind up liking Trump more than most unDems
he's actually a moderate like Nixon, Rockefeller and Eisenhower
not my cup of tea either but preferable to Hillary
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Trump has promised to appoint supreme court justices who will overturn the right of gays to marry and supports so called "religious freedom" laws that allow christians to discriminate against gays but not vice versa.
Some say Trump will be a puppet and Pence will be actually running things but Pence is even more anti-gay than Trump
With both Pence and Trump being virulently anti-gay its going to be open season on LGBT people in the U.S.
We welcome you in Canada if you're able to make the move. We'll hope for the best for you if you can't.
btw, TTFers, I know you're always obsessed with what I read, watch and listen to
I actually flip between all the news channels, including Al-Jazeera and RT
last night, I have to say, surprisingly, I thought MSNBC had the best coverage
Chris Matthews has become more thoughtful and less of an Obama stooge, Rachel Maddow is always great even if her views are warped, Brian Williams lends an air of gravitas, and I liked the guy who was their version of CNN's obnoxious John King
Trump Win a Victory for Anti-Semitism
Donald Trump’s near-universal support among white supremacists, who view Jews as at least as bad as blacks and other dark-skinned people (and sometimes even worse), strongly suggests that Haaretz and the ADL are right to say that his win is a victory for anti-Jewish hatred.
Tuesday’s election marked a stunning victory for Donald Trump. And, in the background, something else as well. The election marked the greatest victory and validation for anti-Semitism in America since 1941.
We all saw it coming, those who supported Trump and those who opposed him. We knew it early on. And we couldn’t stop it. Because Trump’s own people – in particular his closest and most senior Jewish advisors, among them his son-in-law Jared Kushner – let it fester and grow, unfettered, unopposed, unacknowledged. Free.
To the direct benefit of anti-Semites and those who, like Trump, have coddled them and turned a blind eye to them and, in the end, leveraged them to their own advantage, the renaissance of Jew-hate in America has effectively split the Jewish community between an overwhelmingly liberal majority and the pro-Trump minority.
There are now just two kinds of Jews in America. And one of them voted for Trump…
“The spike in hate we’ve seen online this election cycle is extremely troubling and unlike anything we have seen in modern politics,” ADL CEO Jonathan A. Greenblatt said at the time. “A half century ago, the KKK burned crosses. Today, extremists are burning up Twitter.” An ADL statement said: “These aggressors are disproportionately likely to self-identify as Donald Trump supporters, conservatives, or part of the ‘alt-right,’ a loosely connected group of extremists, some of whom are white supremacists.”
Pretty much anyone not white and European must now live in even more fear than they usually do in this country. The targets on their back just became bigger and brighter. I have no doubt we will see a big increase in the number of hate crimes; that’s already begun. An emboldened white supremacist movements is feeling their oats and they aren’t know for being fluffy and nice. It’s going to get very ugly. Many Trump voters no doubt would find that horrifying, but they can’t escape their share of the blame for it. They helped it happen.
Potential Trump Cabinet Members Are Terrifying
Names are already leaking out of those who are on short lists for cabinet positions in the Trump administration. They’ve made a list of three people for each position and you have to look really closely to find a name that isn’t shiver-inducing.
Still, some of the potential picks have been reported, including some before Trump clinched the White House: Secretary of State Newt Gingrich, for one. Tennessee senator Bob Corker, the current chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and brief Trump vice-presidential contender, may also be up for the job of top diplomat (or even potentially Treasury secretary). President Bush’s controversial former United Nations ambassador John Bolton has also been considered for the job, per Politico; Bolton has said in the past that he would “consider” such a post.
When the most palatable name on any list is Newt Gingrich, that’s a frightening list. Bolton is the worst imaginable pick. He’s a lot like Lindsey Graham, he just wants to invade every other country, probably in alphabetical order.
And speaking of the judiciary, NBC reported earlier this week that former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani could likely fill the attorney-general spot. Giuliani served as the high-profile U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York more than 25 years ago. His appointment there would likely mean New Jersey governor and early endorser Chris Christie would miss out on being the top prosecutor, as has long been speculated.
Giuliani as AG? *shudder*
Another candidate reportedly floated for DHS secretary: David Clarke, a conservative sheriff of Milwaukee County. Clarke, who is African-American, has publicly rallied against Black Lives Matter and encouraged citizens to arm themselves, reports the Los Angeles Times.
Clarke? Why not Arpaio? A stupid, racism-denying *sshole sheriff who wears a cowboy hat in freaking Milwaukee to show what an *ss kicker he is (which means, as Carlin points out, that he walks around in a costume every day) to run DHS? What would a job as a county sheriff possibly do to prepare you for that job?
Other private-sector people who might make their way into a Trump administration, per Politico: 74-year-old Forrest Lucas, founder of Lucas Oil, as secretary of the Interior; 78-year-old billionaire investor Wilbur Ross or Dan DiMicco, a former steel CEO, as Commerce secretary; 70-year-old oil and gas billionaire Harold Hamm as Energy secretary.
Energy industry CEOs to run the Department of Energy? I hope you like drinking water that is half coal ash and half carcinogens.
Others not to count out: Texas agriculture commissioner Sid Miller for secretary of Agriculture; he’s defended the right to deep fryers and referred to Clinton as a “c*nt” in the run-up to the election. Dr. Ben Carson might be tapped to be secretary of Health and Human Services, or Education secretary — if that position exists in a Trump administration. Climate-change denier Myron Ebell, who is leading Trump’s EPA transition team, will probably be tapped to head that agency — and then gut it.
If this list doesn’t scare you, nothing will.
With Donald Trump in the White House and Republican control of both houses of Congress, the implications for the environment are nothing short of wide-ranging and absolutely terrifying.
Here are just a few of the things that might well happen now:
1. Withdrawal from the Paris accords and all other American involvement in actions on global warming, which means the total collapse of international cooperation on the matter. This is a virtual certainty.
2. The end of all new EPA regulations on air and water pollution, including carbon limits and efforts to prevent the dumping of coal ash and other toxic pollutants into our waterways. This is also a virtual certainty, as Trump can order that without even asking Congress.
3. Greater use of coal and the end of all federal tax breaks, subsidies or research on renewable energy sources. Again, a virtual certainly. Trump promised to do that only a week or so ago.
4. The end of restrictions on fracking.
5. Possibly even the elimination of the EPA completely. The far right has salivated over this for a long time and they may well have the votes to pull it off, at least in the House. The Senate seems less likely.
6. The end of all drilling restrictions for oil, from the arctic to our seaboards.
Do I really need to spell out the damage these things would do?
This May Be the End for Reproductive Rights
The election of Donald Trump is quite likely to mean the end of Roe v Wade and constitutional protection of the right of women to control their own reproduction.
It’s a new era in America, and Republican Donald Trump is now the going to be the next president of the United States. Plus, with Republican majorities in the House, the Senate, and in two-thirds of the state governors’ mansions, Trump will likely be able to enact his agenda with almost no resistance from Democratic lawmakers.
And yes, that could well mean the end of safe, legal abortion in the country.
The anti-abortion movement faced some of its darkest hours following the death of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. The sudden loss of the most conservative member of the Court threw a wrench in a decade of intricate planning to pass a number of abortion restrictions in state legislatures with the hope that they would be challenged by abortion providers and eventually make it to the Supreme Court, where justices could rule to overturn Roe v. Wade. The 5–3 decision in Whole Women’s Health v. Hellerstedt made it clear that without a new socially conservative justice, the quest to end abortion through the court system was on hold.
Many Republican senators endangered their reelection chances by refusing to allow President Barack Obama to fill the vacant seat, but it’s a gambit that paid off. Only one Republican incumbent lost his race at this point, with just one Senate race still too close to call, and that means when Trump is sworn into office this January, he will be able to appoint someone from his short list of judges “very much in the mold of Scalia.” That new judge will once again make moderate Justice Anthony Kennedy — who is an inconsistent supporter of abortion rights at best — the swing vote on the court. Meanwhile there will be a number of laws geared toward testing his complicated feelings around the “life of the unborn” working their way up the docket.
But it’s scarier than that. At present, there’s still a 5-4 majority to uphold Roe, even after they replace Scalia with another conservative. But who are the next most likely justices to leave the bench? Ruth Bader Ginsburg, most obviously. She’s in her mid-80s and has already fought pancreatic cancer twice. The second most likely is probably Stephen Breyer. And Kennedy, the shakiest of the pro-choice justices, is next. If Ginsburg or Breyer is replaced by a conservative, Roe is dead in the water. And with Republican control of 2/3 of the states, it will be dead in the water in most states as well. The clock will have been turned back nearly 50 years. Women will die as a result.
Russian Diplomat: We Conferred With Trump Campaign
The Washington Post reports:
Russian government officials had contacts with members of Donald Trump’s campaign team, a senior Russian diplomat said Thursday, in a disclosure that could reopen scrutiny over the Kremlin’s role in the president-elect’s bitter race against Hillary Clinton.
Facing questions about his ties to Moscow because of statements interpreted as lauding Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump repeatedly denied having any contact with the Russian government.
After the latest statement by the Russian diplomat, the spokeswoman for the Trump campaign, Hope Hicks, denied there were interactions between Russia and the Trump team before Tuesday’s election.
“The campaign had no contact with Russian officials,” she said in an email. But Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, in an interview with the state-run Interfax news agency, said that “there were contacts” with the Trump team.
“Obviously, we know most of the people from his entourage,” Rybakov said. “Those people have always been in the limelight in the United States and have occupied high-ranking positions. I cannot say that all of them but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives.”
“We have just begun to consider ways of building dialogue with the future Donald Trump administration and channels we will be using for those purposes,” Ryabkov was quoted as saying.
Panic
Trump’s scattered views on equality, his courting of Christian conservatives, and his bigoted veep mean LGBTQ people should be worried.
Those wondering how actively President-Elect Donald Trump wants to pursue the rolling back of LGBTQ rights and equality received an early disturbing signal on Wednesday afternoon.
The New York Times reported that one of Trump’s first priorities, with America and the world still in shock at his presidential victory, was to select a conservative nominee for the Supreme Court vacancy, as he had promised while campaigning.
As The Daily Beast’s Jay Michaelson has written, the Supreme Court will become Trump’s prime vehicle to advance a socially conservative agenda, including a possible renewed effort to scupper marriage equality.
The grief, anger, and fear of many LGBTQ people on social media after Trump’s presidential election victory was immediate, sharp, and keenly felt. Many people writing about their fears invoked other groups that Trump has targeted: Muslims, immigrants, and women.
There were tweets to call friends and loved ones to check in on them; vows to fight whatever attacks on LGBTQ rights will happen under a Trump administration; promises to support one another; and overarching it all, shock and nervousness.
As Michaelson wrote a few weeks ago, an administration led by Trump includes now-Vice President-Elect Mike Pence, “one of the most anti-gay governors in the nation,” most notorious for his steadfast support for Indiana’s Religious "Freedom" Restoration Act (RFRA) and his backing of “conversion therapy” for LGBTQ people.
To have an administration with an avowedly anti-equality agenda, acting with the backing of a Republican-controlled House and Senate, may mean a very dark era for LGBTQ equality.
Jay Brown, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), told The Daily Beast: “Everybody is a little stunned right now. We know there are several threats coming at us, and we spent many months warning voters about the anti-LGBTQ platform of Donald Trump and Mike Pence. Now we’re confronted by that.”
Brown said HRC and the wider LGBTQ movements had faced setbacks and fought long and hard battles before, and would do so again “with determination.”
Visitors to the HRC website Wednesday were most concerned about the threat to marriage equality, Brown said; Trump said he would “strongly consider” overturning the law, having shaped the Supreme Court in the way he wanted.
The HRC was concerned, Brown said, about the cases heading the Supreme Court’s way focused on transgender issues.
At the end of last month, SCOTUS announced it would decide whether transgender boy Gavin Grimm could use the boys’ bathroom in a Virginia high school.
Trump and Pence had also intimated that they would move to make it more difficult for LGBTQ people to serve openly in the military, said Brown.
There was also the composition of a potential Trump Cabinet: Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, and Chris Christie all have anti-LGBTQ records, Brown said. “We’ll be looking to see if there are directives and guidances issued against our community,” he said.
That would include the Department of Education’s guidance, published in May, to support and protect trans students.
Brown was also concerned about the instances and bills centered around refusing services to LGBTQ people because of the provider’s religious "conscience" or "belief".
The intended dismantling of Obamacare would also have a significant impact on LGBTQ people’s access to health care.
Of the lack of policy specifics from Trump, Rachel B. Tiven, CEO of Lambda Legal, noted that it was “hard to critique something that has no plan. There is no domestic agenda. There is no detail of any kind about anything.”
Tiven said her organization—the nation’s oldest and largest legal organization working for the civil rights of LGBTQ people, and those with HIV/AIDS—had spent its history educating schools, parents, and teachers, how wrong bullying was, “only to wake up this morning to find that our fellow Americans had elected a bully for president.
“It is particularly bitter. His election stands as a total repudiation of what the LGBTQ rights movement has been fighting for: pride in yourself and others, pride in who you are, being different. This feels like an attack.”
Like Brown, Tiven was concerned by Trump’s intention to appoint homophobes to influential public office.
The author and veteran activist Michelangelo Signorile, Sirius XM host and editor-at-large of Huffington Post’s Queer Voices section, told The Daily Beast: “We should be very worried about LGBT rights. Trump kept it under the radar during the campaign. His foghorn was immigration, and his dog-whistle to Christian conservative groups was LGBT rights.
“He promised things quietly to them around religious "liberty" laws. What he said publicly shouldn’t be seen as a reflection of how homophobic his actions might be. He convinced these people to vote for him in massive numbers. Now he has to give them things.”
Signorile, author most recently of the book It’s Not Over, said he wasn’t sure that a newly appointed conservative justice on the Supreme Court could overturn marriage equality, but he was concerned that Trump could pass laws to make “gay marriage into second-class marriage.”
Trump has already pledged to sign into law the First Amendment "Defense" Act (FADA), which would give employers, businesses, and landlords the right to discriminate against LGBTQ people in accordance with their "religious beliefs".
Trump’s election also meant, predicted Signorile, that the Equality Act was “dead in the water.” The act, introduced in 2015 to the House of Representatives and the Senate, “establishes explicit, permanent protections against discrimination based on an individual’s sexual orientation or gender identity in matters of employment, housing, access to public places, federal funding, credit, education and jury service,” says the HRC. “In addition, it would prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex in federal funding and access to public places.”
The Republican’s response to the Orlando LGBTQ club massacre sought to pit LGBTQ people against Muslims.
“Whatever Trump feels personally about LGBTQ people, he has made his bed with Christian conservatives. His campaign was full of confusion and mixed messages. Maybe he has gay friends. Maybe he really doesn’t care what bathroom a transgender person uses. But for his election he needed the religious right, and he has made a pact with these people.”
Signorile said he had seen Trump and Pence court this constituency at the Values Voter Summit, noting that on Tuesday Trump received more evangelical votes than George W. Bush.
“If he wants re-election he will need to give them a few things,” Signorile said. “ At the RNC, Trump said he would protect us from a ‘hateful foreign ideology.’ What about the hateful domestic ideology that he now seems so happy to help put in place?”
For those LGBTQ people concerned or worried, Tiven recommended people visiting Lambda Legal and other organizations’ websites, and getting in touch and reporting any instances of discrimination they are aware of.
LGBTQ people needed to be aware of their rights, and to fight for their preservation if necessary, she added.
In a statement, Chad Griffin, HRC president, said: “To every LGBTQ person across this nation feeling stunned and disheartened, and questioning if they have a place in our country today, I say this: You do. Don’t ever let anybody tell you otherwise. Be bold, be strong, and continue to stand up for the principles that have always made America great.”
Omarosa: Donald Trump Has Kept An Enemies List And Every Critic Must Now Bow Down To Him [VIDEO]
Troll Wyatt/bad anonymous tries to provoke reactions by saying Trump is "gay-friendly". Here's an honest reaction of a gay person to Donald Trump becoming president:
(name withheld) • a day ago
"I just wanted to say I'm gone.
I will not be back for a very long time. im not sure if i will be back ever.
I almost was forced into a pshych ward last night. I may yet still end up there.
I wish you all well... I cant live with any of this anymore."
As research shows trolls like Wyatt/bad anonymous are sadists he'll get a kick out of the above.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Jim, you'll probably wind up liking Trump more than most unDems he's actually a moderate like Nixon, Rockefeller and Eisenhower. he has promised to appoint judges who believe in maintaining the original intent of the Founding Fathers in writing the Constitution".
Typical absurd Wyatt/bad anonymous comment. Trump is no moderate, he's a neo-nazi who promised to appoint supreme court justices like Scalia who was profoundly anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-women, increased the tyranny of businesses over individuals and made rulings to turn the U.S. into a theocracy.
The U.S. supreme court will have more of an effect than Trump for decades to come and Trump is going to appoint extremist right-wing fascists like Scalia to the supreme court.
Trump's U.S. is going to be a nightmare for freedom loving Americans. He will be the worst thing that's ever happened to the U.S. since slavery. In fact he'll implement a form of slavery with individuals under the jack boot of business and religion.
Two weeks ago Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Trump will be the next president let's hope our Republic survives".
Now he's trying to tell us Trump will be a moderate and we're going to like him.
Typical Wyatt/bad anonymous, he'll say anything as long as it serves his immediate unhinged purposes even if it contradicts what he previously said.
The U.S. supreme court will have more of an effect than Trump for decades to come and Trump is going to appoint constitutional scholars like Scalia to the supreme court.
There's that sadist coming out again.
Scalia was a right wing fascist. Trump will turn the U.S. into a theocracy where individuals slaves to religion and business.
And so much for Wyatt/bad anonymous's promise that he wasn't going to respond to any of my posts.
Two weeks ago Wyatt/bad anonymous said "Trump will be the next president let's hope our Republic survives".
Now he's trying to tell us Trump will be a moderate and we're going to like him.
Typical Wyatt/bad anonymous, he'll say anything as long as it serves his immediate unhinged purposes even if it contradicts what he previously said.
You can see there's no overriding principle or morality that guides Wyatt/bad anonymous's posts. The only thing that controls what he posts is "what will harm the innocent people I resent?"
That's why he contradicts himself so frequently and readily - consistency doesn't mater to him, only hurting others does.
Wyatt's a sadist.
The U.S. supreme court will have more of an effect than Trump for decades to come and Trump is going to appoint constitutional scholars like Scalia to the supreme court.
oh me oh my
I do like constitutional scholars
Scalia was no constitutional scholar. He frequently contradicted himself (just like you) in order to reach the pre-determined rulings he wanted that forced his Catholicism on Americans, and attacked women, non-christians, and LGBT people.
Tell us again how Trumps is going to be a moderate and we're going to like him.
Or is it that "Trump will be the next president let's hope our Republic survives"?
it's supreme correction time
back to the roots
the winners can do that
scholar it up, and lock it down
no more special privileges for whiners
Wyatt, remember when you tried to convince us you weren't a troll?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
for anyone not familiar with the site:
Priya Lynn is a troll who attacks the blog with incendiary comments
you can see above twenty-some posts desperately trying to provoke a response
just ignore it
the gay agenda is on the run
the Supreme Court has been saved
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "no more special privileges for whiners".
Agreed, whining christians should not have the special privilege of being able to discriminate against gays when gays don't have the same right to discriminate against christians. And gays should have the same right to marry the partner of their choosing just like heterosexuals have - no special rights for heterosexual whiners.
Now Wyatt/bad anonymous, break your promise to ignore me again by responding.
In this thread at October 12, 2016 10:21 PM Good anonymous said ""Thanks, Priya Lynn, and welcome back!"
Wyatt/bad anonymous responded "yes, you are welcome to mumble to yourself you continue to be subject to shunning"
Wyatt's previous comment where he said he was going to ignore my posts was deleted because he got "dispassionate" again LOL! Wyatt/bad anonymous can't resist responding to my posts.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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this is really funny:
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=71142728&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-reason_msg
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "the gay agenda is on the run".
Gee Wyatt, what happened? You've been repeatedly telling us for weeks now how Trump is gay friendly, has been a life long gay rights supporter, and on the night of the election how happy gays were that he was winning. Now here you are contradicting yourself again - its almost like you were just trolling us and claiming those things when they really weren't true just so you could provoke a response.
Obvious troll Wyatt/bad anonymous is obvious. Now go post another trollish comment Wyatt seeing as you're "ignoring" me.
You can see there's no overriding principle or morality that guides Wyatt/bad anonymous's posts. The only thing that controls what he posts is "what will antagonize the innocent people I resent?"
That's why he contradicts himself so frequently and readily - consistency doesn't mater to him, only hurting others does.
Wyatt's a troll. And a sadist.
The U.S. supreme court will have more of an effect than Trump for decades to come and Trump is going to appoint constitutional scholars like Scalia to the supreme court.
Scalia was no constitutional scholar. He frequently contradicted himself (just like you) in order to reach the pre-determined rulings he wanted that forced his Catholicism on Americans, and attacked women, non-christians, and LGBT people.
Tell us again how Trumps is going to be a moderate and we're going to like him.
Or is it that "Trump will be the next president let's hope our Republic survives"?
You can see there's no overriding principle or morality that guides Wyatt/bad anonymous's posts. The only thing that controls what he posts is "what will antagonize the innocent people I resent?"
That's why he contradicts himself so frequently and readily - consistency doesn't mater to him, only hurting others does.
Wyatt's a troll. And a sadist.
For someone who claims to be ignoring me Wyatt/bad anonymous sure posts a lot of trollish comments aimed at me.
Now go post another trollish comment Wyatt.
President Obama spoke with President-elect Donald J. Trump at the White House on Thursday to discuss the transition of power. President Obama said they had an "excellent" and "wide-ranging" conversation.
WASHINGTON — President Obama and Donald J. Trump made a public show on Thursday after a stunning election upset. The Oval Office meeting brought together a president with a gay-friendly President-elect. Trump discussed his plan to provide expanded government benefits for gays, such as free reparative therapy and help with fast-tracked procedures allowing gays to immigrate to other countries.
“I want to emphasize to you, Mr. President-elect, that we now are going to want to do everything we can to help you succeed because if you succeed, then the country succeeds,” Mr. Obama told Mr. Trump as the two sat side-by-side after the roughly 90-minute meeting. The president called the session “excellent” and wide-ranging.
Mr. Trump, who said he had never met Mr. Obama before and expected the meeting to last only 10 or 15 minutes, said it had been a “great honor” to sit with the president.
“We discussed a lot of different situations, some wonderful and some difficulties. I very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future, including counsel,” Mr. Trump said.
It was an extraordinary show of cordiality and respect between two men who have are stylistic opposites — Mr. Trump a brash real estate executive and reality television star, and Mr. Obama, who thinks he's Mr.Cool.
Mr. Trump, whose election on Tuesday delighted the president and rocked the political establishment in Washington, arrived in the White House driveway on Thursday out of sight of the crowds of reporters and news media cameras assembled there. His staff had refused to arrange for journalists to document his movements, as is customary both for the president and the president-elect.
Mr. Obama said his wife, Michelle, met with Melania Trump while their husbands spoke in the Oval Office.
“We want to make sure that they feel welcome,” Mr. Obama said of the Trumps
The U.S. supreme court will have more of an effect than Trump for decades to come and Trump is going to appoint constitutional scholars like Scalia to the supreme court.
Scalia was no constitutional scholar. He frequently contradicted himself (just like you) in order to reach the pre-determined rulings he wanted that forced his Catholicism on Americans, and attacked women, non-christians, and LGBT people.
Tell us again how Trumps is going to be a moderate and we're going to like him.
Or is it that "Trump will be the next president let's hope our Republic survives"?
You can see there's no overriding principle or morality that guides Wyatt/bad anonymous's posts. The only thing that controls what he posts is "what will antagonize the innocent people I resent?"
That's why he contradicts himself so frequently and readily - consistency doesn't mater to him, only hurting others does.
Wyatt's a troll. And a sadist.
For someone who claims to be ignoring me Wyatt/bad anonymous sure posts a lot of trollish comments aimed at me.
Now go post another trollish comment Wyatt.
Wyatt/bad anonymous isn't big on imagination.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "the gay agenda is on the run".
Gee Wyatt, what happened? You've been repeatedly telling us for weeks now how Trump is gay friendly, has been a life long gay rights supporter, and on the night of the election how happy gays were that he was winning. Now here you are contradicting yourself again - its almost like you were just trolling us and claiming those things when they really weren't true just so you could provoke a response.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/11/09/another-way-trumps-bid-changed-politics/93565370/
The U.S. supreme court will have more of an effect than Trump for decades to come and Trump is going to appoint constitutional scholars like Scalia to the supreme court.
Yeah, the president-elect who shall not be named has been real consistent in doing things the Republicans wanted him to do and espousing their policies pretty much verbatim throughout his campaign. I'm sure his "never rock the boat" strategy will continue going forward.
Guess who already has an enemies list?
Wasn't someone saying something about Nixon recently?
Have a nice day,
Cynthia
"Guess who already has an enemies list?"
I know the Clintons do
seems like just yesterday when the media was filled with stories about how Trump supporters would take to the streets when he lost, rioting, starting fires, smashing windows, vandalizing property......glad we dodged that bullet
Protesters have good reasons to be protesting he who shall not be named...
The election was rigged. The Mango Mussolini said so himself, repeatedly. And if you can't believe him on that, why should we believe him on anything else?
Orange Tan Orangutan supporters are already behaving just like he inspired them to - women are getting groped, hijabs are being pulled off the heads of religious women, Latino kids are being told by their classmates that they're going back to Mexico, and black folks are being told to move to the back of the bus. Yes, America is going to be great again, for white racist perverts.
It really tells me a lot that the same folks who have spent years denigrating trans people by manufacturing a ridiculous bathroom fear, have now, with the aid of the alt-right white nationalists, put Groper Cleavand into the white house.
16 years ago, the press and the world was amazed at how peaceful the transfer of power was when Bush lost the popular vote and was installed by the Supreme Court. That resulted in a decade and a half of war - much of it under false pretenses and no plan to pay for it, the largest economic collapse since the great depression, the loss of millions of jobs and the half-a-trillion in annual tax revenue, and subsequent larger debts.
All that when the Republican candidate just looked stupid. Now that electoral college is about to install one who is stupid, belligerent, misogynist, racist, authoritarian -like has good pal Putin, and woefully unprepared for the type of work he has never done before.
What could possibly go wrong?
Don't worry, as Wyatt/bad anonymous says, "Trump's a moderate".
CNN reports numerous incidents of prejudice-based violence as an outcome of Election Day 2016.
Vandalism:
New York University: “Trump!” written on a Muslim prayer-room door. The New York Police Department is investigating. Read more at NYU Local.
Maple Grove, Minn.: “Trump,” “Whites only,” and “White America” graffiti at a local high school. Read more at the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.
Durham, N.C.: “Black lives don’t matter and neither does your votes,” was spray-painted by pro-Trump vandals on a wall, according to WNCN.
University of Louisiana: Pro-Trump vandals chalked the messages “Trump,” “Build wall” and “[Expletive deleted] your safe space” outside the Lafayette campus library. Campus police are investigating. The Vermilion student newspaper tweeted photos of the messages.
Philadelphia: Pro-Nazi graffiti appeared at several locations around Philadelphia. According to Anti-Defamation League regional director Nancy K. Baron-Baer said an incident at an abandoned storefront was isolated — for now — but CNN says that the words “Trump Rules,” “Trump Rules Black [expletive]” and the letter “T” were also spray-painted on three vehicles and a house.
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Assault and car theft:
San Diego: Two men allegedly targeted a Muslim woman, made comments about Trump and Muslims, then grabbed her backpack and stole her car. Read more at NBC San Diego.
San Jose State University: A man yanked the head scarf off of a student — comparable to yanking the dress off of a Catholic nun — and then caused her to choke. Campus officials say they are investigating. Read more at The Mercury News.
Bullying and intimidation:
Students at Royal Oak Middle School in Michigan chanted, “Build the wall! Build the wall!” in the school cafeteria, scaring Mexican-American classmates. The incident was caught on video and shared on Facebook. The school district superintendent said personnel are addressing the incident, but parents say the response is inadequate, according to The Detroit News.
Canisius College: Students posted images of an African-American doll hanged from a dorm curtain rod on social media. College President John J. Hurley said students have been suspended and may be expelled. Read more at the college website.
Redding, Calif.: A student at Shasta High School tweeted a video of himself handing “deportation” letters to classmates of different ethnicities. According to the Redding Record Searchlight, students at another Redding school expressed ethnic slurs and held up offensive signs directed at a predominantly Hispanic boys basketball team earlier this year.
WPVI reports an outbreak of election-related bullying at Council Rock North High School in Newtown, Pa.
In an extraordinary letter to parents, superintendent Dr. Robert J. Fraser cites several incidents resulting from the election of Donald Trump. According to WPVI:
Fraser says someone drew three swastikas, wrote a derogatory comment about people who are gay, along with the words “I Love Trump,” on a paper found hanging in the girls’ restroom.
In another girls’ restroom, Fraser says someone wrote, “If Trump wins, watch out!” directly onto a toilet paper dispenser.
In a boys’ restroom, two swastikas were reportedly drawn directly onto a restroom stall.
Fraser says a Latina student found that a note had been placed in her backpack telling her to return to Mexico.
There is a related report of inappropriate comments being made to Latino students as well, Fraser says.
Can't you just feel the moderation?!?
Cynthia said "Guess who already has an enemies list?
Wasn't someone saying something about Nixon recently?".
That's right, it was Trump surrogate Omarosa:
Omarosa: Donald Trump Has Kept An Enemies List And Every Critic Must Now Bow Down To Him [VIDEO]
Foreshadowing the Naziism to come Trump threatened the first amendment right to free speech. When asked why he supports Putin who has murdered critics Trump implied his approval for that by saying Putin was a good and strong leader. In all of his campaign rallies he attacked the press and supporters threatened the press with so much violence in some cases they had to be escorted from the rallies by police protection.
At one rally Trump promised to greatly expand and open up libel laws so he could sue the press at a whim saying "We're going to make so much money!". He then mentioned how some had criticized Putin for murdering members of the press and Trump then said "I wouldn't do that, I don't think" and then then gave a "thinking about it expression" to show he hadn't ruled that out. Trump supporters then chanted "lying press" in German just as Hitler and the Nazis used to do.
Its scary how much the rise of Trump mirrors the rise of Hitler.
Wyatt/bad anonymous said "seems like just yesterday when the media was filled with stories about how Trump supporters would take to the streets when he lost, rioting, starting fires, smashing windows, vandalizing property......glad we dodged that bullet".
And that's exactly what would have happened if Trump had lost. And as I posted earlier, that's exactly what has happened to a degree now that Trump's win has emboldened his racist, misogynistic, and anti-gay supporters.
There have been massive anti-Trump protests throughout the United States but they've been overwhelmingly peaceful even though Trump was elected despite Hillary having more votes than him.
It was Trump himself who said after the 2012 election "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.". Even Trump agrees Hillary should be president, not him.
There would have been riots if Trump had clearly lost the election but if he'd won the popular vote and lost as Hillary did the violence would have been unimaginable.
The KKK, neo-nazis and other white supremacists are celebrating the rise of racism Trump represents and has enabled throughout the U.S.
Re the above: When Trump called the electoral college a disaster for democracy after the 2012 election he believed incorrectly that Obama had lossed the popular vote.
Its a sad commentary on the sickness of American society when a sex offender gets almost as many votes as Hillary did.
White Supremacist Leader: Trump’s Victory Means We Now Can Drive A Stake Into Jews And Minorities
"No mercy should be shown to the enemies of our God, our Folk, and our civilization."
Ku Klux Klan Steps Up Recruiting After Trump’s Win: Stand Up For The White Man And Fight “Black Savages”
Log Cabin (gay) Republicans: Send Us Money To Help Save The LGBT Advances Won Under President Obama
Unbelievable. While they were dishonestly telling us how "gay-friendly" Trump was (just like the troll Wyatt/bad anonymous) they knew he'd attack and seek to oppress LGBT people.
"Send us donations to save LGBT people from the politicians we helped elect with your previous donations"
They're almost as big of a-holes as Wyatt/bad anonymous.
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